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Hello all,
I'm considering moving up to the XDA Exec; especially now that I see many contributors here have worked out how to get it running well.
However I suspect that, with its bigger size, using a bluetooth headset will be even more important. My experiences with my XDAII were that it was never quite reliable enough to use day-to-day (even after trying different bluetooth stacks etc.)
So what are your experiences:
- does it work well
- how about the voice dialling via bluetooth
- caller id on compatibale headsets work?
cheers,
Pete
I'd say it depends on your headset, but yes: The Exec handles my Bluetooth headset more reliably than my XDA2 did.
I've got a SonyEricsson HBH-65 that was occasionally great and occasionally infuriating with my XDA2, but it seems much happier with the Exec. It's not perfect since it's tough to interpret the various bleeps and boops that the headset gives out and understand what they mean, but I'm getting used to it. It'd be a lot easier if the headset makers could give us more than one button... :roll:
With my HBH-65 and my Exec I can receive calls and use voice dialling to make calls (provided I've configured the voice dial commands already). The voicedial bleeps are a bit quiet in the headset but trial and error might improve things.
Some people seem to have problems using voicedial if their Exec is closed and turned off, but I don't seem to have the same problem. The first press of the headset button switches the Exec on and then a second one gives me the voice prompt.
Hope this helps
I've tried a Bluespoon AX and a Plantronics Discovery 640 with my headset and while they both appear to work fine functionaly, the quality of the audio is bad. I've tested the same bluetooth devices with other phones and the quality is much better.
Does anyone else have this problem? I'm going to go into to O2 later today and see if they've had reports of this before. Maybe I have a dud device.
I have an Exec, a Jasjar *and* an MDA Pro the Exec is mine, the rest is Eval.) and the Exec and MDA pro handle BT Headset fine. The Jasjar however keeps dropping the connection between the device and the headset. Flashing the MDA Pro with the Jasjar ROM made that the Pro also started dropping the connection between device and headset.
Conclusion, something is flaky in the Jasjar Rom.
There are a number of posts relating to this dropping of connection in this forum.
G'day
I have had the Jabra BT800 for a few months and never used it as it was pointless with the XDA IIs, but it works perfectly with the JasJar. It even rings about half a second before the phone does and shows the callers number (pitty it doesnt show the name from the phones contacts).
I am happy i didnt sell the BT800, as now i can keep the JasJar closed in my pocket when i just need to answer the phone.
Paul
ive used a jabra bt250v no problems voice dial is much better and works fine but i havent found how to get the audiogaeway working any ideas anyone so i can get tomtom throught the headset
JJ and Jabra BT 800 work well and voice dial works very well. Have made 1.5 hours in the last two weeks and not dropped calls. When used inside a car or in a room the signal is okay but as soon as you use the Jabra BT800 and JJ outside the signal gets weaker.
registry hack.
I have a SE 662 headset and it will only work once, after that it seems like the gate is left in 'limbo' you cannot use the headset to 'initiate' VC again.
One warm reboot you can then use it once again.
I'm interested which headsets are working well, I've head about the bluespoon X2 but I can't find that on the UK websites.
Let me know.
Thanks.
Jabra.
Jabra, is that the 250 or the 800?
Thanks for the reply
the jabra headsets are real good. i use the bt250v with my wizard and the 800 with my universal, and they are amazing. performance is great, battery life is superb.
ciao!
my jabra BT330
is working great !!!!!!!!
I use my Wizard with a Motorola HS801 Bluetooth Headset! Works well with it! ;-)
peteborota: I was given a Sony headset to use with the Universal to figure out some hacks (search for VJElectrify), and I also found that after the first use of voice command, the audio gateway is left open. I made an app (VJVolubilis) to close the gateway, disable bluetooth, reopen bluetooth, repair and then open the gateway again. It works, but it's a damn longwinded way to re-gain control of VC.
However, since the guy that gave me the headset had successfully been using it with VC on the same hardware (Universal), I think there may be a software combination causing this spazz up. I will hardreset at some point and try again, but I'd be interested in feedback on this issue as well.
V
my Sony-Ericsson HBH-660 works perfect with my Wizard
Motorola H500 works great too :lol:
Plantronics Voyager 510 works too
Plantronics Voyager 510 - excellent
Moto 810 works well. One thing I did notice is that there is about a 1-2 second delay in ability to recognize commands.
My Moto HS810 works with voice command (more than once, but you have to press the button on the headset 3 times to get it to trigger VC)
voyager 510 did not trigger vc at all.. ever.
moto H700 triggered only once then I had to reboot the phone.
mototola h820,
motorola h820 works perfectly, even with clam shell closed, the salesmen in the store dealing with the headsets advised me that motorolla bosted much further range and battery life over most other headsets, he also said that the nokia head sets, had the worst range and battery life, may be just his expert opinion, but I've been very happy with my choice
Re: mototola h820,
I use nokia HD3-w and it works good,but i have a serious problem with imate k-jam.because when i press and hold the bluetooth button it doesn't wake up the device when it is in standby mode but when i double press the bluetooth button it works on dialing the last number.does anyone have the same problem.
and also i want to know how often do you put your device on standby mode because i usually press the power button after using the device for example after a call.
thanks for sharing :wink:
I HAVE BEEN USING MY 4 YEARS OLD BLUESPOON.
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LOVE IT..
IN THE US YOU CAN GET IT AT SOME RADIO SHACK, THE LOWEND VERSION,
Tamoochin,
I have the Jabra BT500 and it does the same thing your headset does - If I hold down the button for one second on the BT500, it wakes up the phone and dials the last number dialed. Like you, I turn off the power on the phone after each call. If I lightly tap on the BT500 button, the Blue Angel wakes up, and the headset symbol shows up in the top bar on the phone.
This leads me to believe that the Blue Angel could be programmed to start voice command instead of do the redial. Does anyone know how to do this. I have a PH20A (xv6600 from Verizon). I have Verizon's latest ship ROM and I've added Broadcom's High Quality Stereo A2DP profile which works great with the Bluetake Iphono 450rx stereo bluetooth headset.
Someone out there must know how to go into the registry and change the redial command to start voice command.
i have the logitech mobile freedom. if the device is out of standby then it work perfect with one tap. if it is on standby i get one tap and it does nothing. two taps and it wakes the device and three taps and the voice command comes on. doesn't work perfect but it works.
Nokia HS-21W - works flawlessly...
//NoX
My HBH-662 and a Jabra BT200 both only work once per soft-reset. This is after a hard reset, only apps installed are Total Commander and Voice Command.
Also happens with three ROM revisions: The hacked O2 one, The Qtek 1671, and the new Qtek 208 with Push e-mail.
Maybe somehow we have different builds of Voice Command installed? My version number from the control panel applet is 1.50.4333.24.
I hope we can get to the bottom of this, Voice Command is a great tool, especially considering how unweildy the 9100 is to dial in the car.
I've got a problem with Dopod 818 Pro's voice command software.
The software that is use is Cyberon VC 1.6, which is different from Jamin's Voice Speed Dial 1.1
Using Jamin's Voice Speed Dial 1.1 (I've flashed Jamin's rom), I can use bluetooth headset button to activate and dial very successfully every time.
However, when using Dopod's software (Cyberon VC 1.6), I can only activate the voice command once using my bluetooth headset's button. After that I cannot use it anymore and have to reboot the Dopod in order to make it work again. I noticed that after the headset is turned on, it never turns off again using this software.
I'm using a SC HBH-662, 818 Pro AKU2 WWE.
Do anyone experiences this problem? Is it a problem with my Headset instead of a software problem. (I'd need to consider replacing my bluetooth headset). If everyone is experiencing this problem with Dopod, then I think it is probably a software problem, or there are any registry setting that I can use to fix it?
I have noticed the same problem, though not everytime. It seems that if you use the software to dial a phone number, and then end the call, the headset shuts off and may or may not work again with voicecommand.
Anyway, yes, it's weird. I'm using a SE bluetooth headset as well, but I think it's software related.
Anyone not using Sony Ericsson bluetooth headset having the same problem? If yes, I think I'll just downgrade it back to imate rom.
Same Here!! I just loaded the new Dopod ROM and selected the few files from Ext ROM that I wanted and noticed that Cyberon Voice Commander worked once with the bluetooth headset (nxZen) then refused to work after that. Hopefully some genius here can help figure this out. Cyberon's VC seems really good, just need it to work over bluetooth.
voyager
Jabra headset same problem here.
AX2 and Plantronics Voyager same issue. I think it is similiar to the issue people are having with MS Voice Command on the Wizard using the Reg hack to redirect the BT Headset button to activate VC
I'm having the EXACT same problem, with the same headset (hbh662). Interestingly enough, I installed MS Voice Command side-by-side with Voice Commander. Once you activate Voice Commander the first time (and it makes the audio gateway connection to the BT headset), you can use MS Voice Command to issue commands through the headset. The problem is that it seems to only be able to do this once, and then you have to reset. The other thing I've noticed is that all audio is rerouted through the headset; if your phone rings while the BT gateway is active, you will only hear it in the headset (but you get to hear Voice Command anounce the caller). Ah well, at least it works for about 10 minutes per reset. :?
I have exactly the same problem with you guys with my SE HBH-610a and i.Tech Clip R35, and some other SE and i.Tech models which I have also tried. Can only activate once, and will not work again until a soft-reset. This has been like that since the shipped ROM, and the new ROM didn't fix this problem.
Voice command over BT on the i-Mate AKU2 rom works great though, and works 100% of the time!! Though both from same company Cyberon, the one on Dopod is VOICE COMMANDER, and the one on Imate is VOICE SPEED DIAL.
I have tried un-installing Voice Commander from my Dopod and installing Voice Speed Dial (from hack in this forum), but didn't get voicedialling over BT to work this way on the Dopod. Sigh!!
Has anyone contacted Dopod on this matter? If I-mate can implement Voicedialling over BT correctly, I don't see why Dopod can't!! I will write to Dopod. Can't imagine calling their hotline again...the last time I called, I had to wait at least 50mins before my call was answered.
Peter
Still no solution for this?
Still no solution for this issue? Isnt there a way to port/convert Project VCABT to the Prophet?
That would be more than great"!
I have the same problem plus it does not recognize my voice command. Alway dials a wrong person. :evil:
Any progress?
Dear Friends,
Has anyone had any progress with this issue? 3-rd party software? Maybe some bluetooth stack patches.
Please, if anyone has any valuable information to share, please do.
With warmest regards...
there is a major problem with the ROM
Until a new one is produced the BT will be stuffed
The headset pairs ok, it works but unreliable: Calls are recieved ok, calls outgoing from the phonepad ok but the problem is voice-dial.
Sometimes it works as it should: I activate voice dial by the button on the BT headset and the call is made, no problem.
Nine out of ten times however the voice dial does get its audio input through the PHONE mike and not through the headset mike, which usually ends up with getting the complete wrong person on the phone.
This btw happens to be my father - in law, who is called Rob. Somehow all unclear voice dials that I create because of this malfunctioning system are directed to him and it drives him and me crazy!
So I just deleted his voice tag to prevent possible family relations getting ruined.....
Ok, back to business: Is this just the OEM voicedialprogram by Cyberon and will I be better off with another voice speed dialling program or is it the Bluetooth manager in the Hermes that is crap?
This happens on two different BT headsets I own: A Jabra 250 and a brandnew Plantronics Discovery 655.
Any ideas and suggestions on this subject are very welcome before I swap my VarioII for another device.......
dido here
i am trying a motorola 300 series or something on my MDA. everytime i activate the voice command thing it listens to the device instead of my BT headset. i thought it might be due to using the BTaudio changer program that lets my headset play music from the wizard but sounds like i'm not alone here. anyone got any ideas?
So I'm not the only one........One of the great features of such a device is that you can actually make notes and work your agenda etc. while talking on the phone. Now if the voice commands do not go through the headset it is pretty useless.
I think it is a BT related issue. I don't think another program like Microsoft Voice Command is going to change that.
It might be a bug in the T-Mobile rom. I have not seen this issue from Tytn users yet..........
i have the HTC tytn with Imate rom but still same problem as u guys. The bluetooth voice dialing only works with the Handset after while instead of the bluetooth Headset . However it does go back to normal after Reset...So i hope one day this problem will be solve
I am on MDA VARIO II (Dutch) and am using a cheap Bluetrek which costs I think 30 USD (got is for free when getting the VARIO II).
Works perfect
So you can actually make voice dial tags through the headset? And you also hear the confirmation through the headset? You can easily test this by covering the MDA mike and speaking softly the voicetag in the headset.
Please give me your rom and radio info?
My ROM versions:
ROM: 1.21.114.3
Date: 06/20/06
Radio: 1.05.02.00
Protocol: 32.36.7010.04H
Th truth is though, I have only two voice tags: Home & Office.
Those two usually work just fine. I recorded them via the Vario and not via the headset.
To tell you the truth, when I used any of my WM 5 devices I never used to have many voicetags, just can't be bothered to record them all. I did use the Cyberon voice comander, which seems to work beter then the voice dial thing that is built into the ROM. Although for us dutch people, you have to learn how to pronounce the dutch names (like Nachtigaal for example) in an english manner , LOL
I think my Vario II is faulty. I have not seen this issue on any other forum yet. I will walk into a T-Mobile shop this week and see how the headsets performs on another Vario II. If it does work I'll swap mine for another one.
Keep you posted..........
Jeroen,
Can you post the serial number of your device and the approx. Date of purchase? I have an acuaintance who has an VARIO II and he seems to complain about the Alignment problems ! Strange I thought that T-Mobile's Vario II's were cured of this disease.
Thanx
P.S. Oh and also of course if you are suffering from the Alignment probs?
Ok, today I checked the BT handsfree profile functionality with another Vario II at the local T-Mobile shop and it worked fine. So my Vario II was declared faulty and I will recieve a new one as soon as T-Mobile NL gets the new batch in.
Churchill: I have a 634 Series and I bought it two weeks ago. I only experienced SA issues two times.
Thanx Jeroen,
I seem to have the SA issue sporadically, and it started after I tryed a taiwanese software for businesscard scan & ecognition. I need to find time to perform a hard reset
My Vario 2 does the exact same thing sometimes the voice dial actually works throught the handsfree mic, but most of the time it wants me to actually speak to the phone. I HAVE SEEN THIS PROBLEM MANY TIMES BEFORE, so I dont think its your headset, I know some people got around it by installing Microsoft Voice command, but for it to work properly with that I think it is necessary for the Bluetooth headset to have te serial profile. (dont quote me on that last bit!!) But like I said I think its a common issue.
Jeroen!
I started to become worried that i might have the same issue like you with the Voice tags. So today I have recorded a bunch of them (approx 15) then hid my phone inside my suit jacket and then put my coat on and then tryed to dial using my Bluetrek S21 (which I got for free with my Vario II) every single voice tag worked on the first try. I have recorded the voice tags using the phone itself without the headset.
So it must really be a faulty device, but hey you knew that already
Workaround!!
I was having similar problems with the voice sometimes coming from the Bluetooth Headset and sometimes coming from the phone speaker itself. After a bit of investigation, I have found out that if the voice tag was not recognized / successful, the next time the sound will come from the phone and will not be transferred to Bluetooth. If the voice tag is recognized successfully, the next time it will work properly.
I have found a workaround for the problem. If after pressing the Bluetooth call button, the voice comes from the phone, I quickly press the Bluetooth call button again, and the voice from Bluetooth mic is recognized properly.
I don't know about the other Headsets, but with my Headset (Sony Ericsson HBH-662), I hear a short beep each time the audio is switched to Bluetooth and back. So for me the sequence of operation is normally like this.
Normal Operation:
-Press Bluetooth Call button
-Short Beep (Audio transferred to Bluetooth)
-Beep from Voice Dial Software (Indication to start speaking)
-Speak the Voice Tag
-Repeat of Recognized Voice Tag from the Voice Dial Software
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred back to Phone)
-Phone Dialing Start
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred to Bluetooth. Similar to when manually dialing)
-Normal conversation
Error In Operation:
-Press Bluetooth Call button
-Short Beep (Audio transferred to Bluetooth)
-Short Beep (Audio transferred back to Phone)
-Beep from Voice Dial Software (from Phone speaker)
(At this time if you speak into the phone mic, the normal operation will start)
-Error Beep from Voice Dial Software (from Phone speaker)
-Next time the same error will be experienced.
Workaround:
-Press Bluetooth Call button
-Short Beep (Audio transferred to Bluetooth)
-Short Beep (Audio transferred back to Phone)
-Quickly press Bluetooth Call button again (no short beep will be heard)
-Beep from Voice Dial Software (from Phone speaker or from Bluetooth if you are quick enough)
-Speak the Voice Tag (Bluetooth Mic)
-Repeat of Recognized Voice Tag from the Voice Dial Software
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred back to Phone)
-Phone Dialing Start
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred to Bluetooth. Similar to when manually dialing)
-Normal conversation
After this the next time normal operation will be resumed.
I hope that this works for others also. Please give your comments.
Effan
Orange SPV M310 has same issues
BarnOwl said:
Ok, today I checked the BT handsfree profile functionality with another Vario II at the local T-Mobile shop and it worked fine. So my Vario II was declared faulty and I will recieve a new one as soon as T-Mobile NL gets the new batch in.
Churchill: I have a 634 Series and I bought it two weeks ago. I only experienced SA issues two times.
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I have been driven nuts trying to find a solution to this exact problem. I have a UK Orange SPV M3100 and use a Motorola HS850 Bluetooth headset. I have never managed to initiate a call through the headset, it always requires me to speak the name into the phone itself... useless and dangerous when driving!
So your T-Mobile Vario II was faulty? Maybe there are a bad batch of Hermes devices. I will try taking mine into the Orange shop and see if I can get it to work on another unit... maybe I have a faulty phone too.
I will post back my results, just in case other have the same issues.
MW
You should check out the 'MS VoiceCommand 1.6 with Bluetooth and TyTN?' thread.
It's rather long and techy, and doesn't just apply to using MS VoiceCommand 1.6. but it basically does resolve the issue with the Tytn where voice input is not directed to the bluetooth device after pressing the call button.
It took me 3 attempts to get it working, following the instructions in the thread, but it does work very well now.
It is also documented on the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils
Good luck.
Hello,
this is my first post here after a lot of reading, I got my tytn last week, I have played a lot with the little machine, I do like this phone. Too many hot features comparing to the bad ones.
I have a blue soleil bluetooth dongle and it took me some days to hack it to make it work with a nokia e61. I gave up after couple hours with the tytn, I finally bought a usb irda to make wireless sync.
to come back to this thread, my nokia hs-4w does not work with my tytn. I tried with cyberon, I tried with ms voice commander 1.6 with the tweak and nothing. after playing for 2 days with that I finally made a hard reset to get the phone empty and tried again with cyberon nothing.
I did make the new partnership and I can see the nokia hs-4w under the tab devices in bluetooth settings. When I tried to call me I can see the icon displaying in the window with new incoming call but I can not answer the call with the headset.
when I tried with voice commande 1.6 when I hold the button on the headset I could see the mic icon on the phone but nothing working at all.
Before trying to install ms voice commander 1.5, I guess I need to have one headset compatible with cyberon no ?
I thought bluetooth was old technology now and tytn so new and we still get some trouble ( lot of threads in this forum about it )
Also I would appreciate some advice from people who have a bluetooth headset working perfectly with cyberon and ms voice commander with good volume.
thank you