Dopod 818 Pro Voice Command Bluetooth Activation Problem - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General

I've got a problem with Dopod 818 Pro's voice command software.
The software that is use is Cyberon VC 1.6, which is different from Jamin's Voice Speed Dial 1.1
Using Jamin's Voice Speed Dial 1.1 (I've flashed Jamin's rom), I can use bluetooth headset button to activate and dial very successfully every time.
However, when using Dopod's software (Cyberon VC 1.6), I can only activate the voice command once using my bluetooth headset's button. After that I cannot use it anymore and have to reboot the Dopod in order to make it work again. I noticed that after the headset is turned on, it never turns off again using this software.
I'm using a SC HBH-662, 818 Pro AKU2 WWE.
Do anyone experiences this problem? Is it a problem with my Headset instead of a software problem. (I'd need to consider replacing my bluetooth headset). If everyone is experiencing this problem with Dopod, then I think it is probably a software problem, or there are any registry setting that I can use to fix it?

I have noticed the same problem, though not everytime. It seems that if you use the software to dial a phone number, and then end the call, the headset shuts off and may or may not work again with voicecommand.
Anyway, yes, it's weird. I'm using a SE bluetooth headset as well, but I think it's software related.

Anyone not using Sony Ericsson bluetooth headset having the same problem? If yes, I think I'll just downgrade it back to imate rom.

Same Here!! I just loaded the new Dopod ROM and selected the few files from Ext ROM that I wanted and noticed that Cyberon Voice Commander worked once with the bluetooth headset (nxZen) then refused to work after that. Hopefully some genius here can help figure this out. Cyberon's VC seems really good, just need it to work over bluetooth.
voyager

Jabra headset same problem here.

AX2 and Plantronics Voyager same issue. I think it is similiar to the issue people are having with MS Voice Command on the Wizard using the Reg hack to redirect the BT Headset button to activate VC

I'm having the EXACT same problem, with the same headset (hbh662). Interestingly enough, I installed MS Voice Command side-by-side with Voice Commander. Once you activate Voice Commander the first time (and it makes the audio gateway connection to the BT headset), you can use MS Voice Command to issue commands through the headset. The problem is that it seems to only be able to do this once, and then you have to reset. The other thing I've noticed is that all audio is rerouted through the headset; if your phone rings while the BT gateway is active, you will only hear it in the headset (but you get to hear Voice Command anounce the caller). Ah well, at least it works for about 10 minutes per reset. :?

I have exactly the same problem with you guys with my SE HBH-610a and i.Tech Clip R35, and some other SE and i.Tech models which I have also tried. Can only activate once, and will not work again until a soft-reset. This has been like that since the shipped ROM, and the new ROM didn't fix this problem.
Voice command over BT on the i-Mate AKU2 rom works great though, and works 100% of the time!! Though both from same company Cyberon, the one on Dopod is VOICE COMMANDER, and the one on Imate is VOICE SPEED DIAL.
I have tried un-installing Voice Commander from my Dopod and installing Voice Speed Dial (from hack in this forum), but didn't get voicedialling over BT to work this way on the Dopod. Sigh!!
Has anyone contacted Dopod on this matter? If I-mate can implement Voicedialling over BT correctly, I don't see why Dopod can't!! I will write to Dopod. Can't imagine calling their hotline again...the last time I called, I had to wait at least 50mins before my call was answered.
Peter

Still no solution for this?
Still no solution for this issue? Isnt there a way to port/convert Project VCABT to the Prophet?
That would be more than great"!

I have the same problem plus it does not recognize my voice command. Alway dials a wrong person. :evil:

Any progress?
Dear Friends,
Has anyone had any progress with this issue? 3-rd party software? Maybe some bluetooth stack patches.
Please, if anyone has any valuable information to share, please do.
With warmest regards...

there is a major problem with the ROM
Until a new one is produced the BT will be stuffed

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Bluetooth Headset with Voice Command compatiility

Hi all,
Few weeks ago I read in this forum, but I forgot whether is there any solution for above mention subject.
Is there any bluetooth that support Voice command? Or any bluetooth headset v1.2 is compatible with it?
Say that I like to have bluetooth headset that I need to press the button to call, to get appointment, etc just by say it to the headset.
This would be great as you have personal assistance
Regards,
Arto.
Hi,
I think it was me who posted the message but I still am looking for a peice of software for the MDA Compact that allows voice commands through my HBH600 - anyone?
Thanks
Msuk
As far as i know, this is not supported by the MS Stack used by the magician.
I don't get it. Everyone was saying that the Widcomm/Broadcom stack was no good for Voice Command, and now we've got Microsoft and their own stack is still no good.
So, who's manufacturing a stack that actually works?
I hear that the ETEN M-series (500, 600, perhaps earlier) works with Voice Command over the BT headset, so what stack are they using?
That the best thing I have ever heard, to be able to just push the button on the head set to give Voice command a request instead of pulling the phone out of your pocket all the time would be great.
Hi,
I used to be able to issue voice commands for my contacts when I had a SE P900. Also the callers name was announced in the BT and using my voice I could say 'Answer' or 'busy' why cant the MDA Compact be able to do this? MDA Compact get some many things right but gets a whole load of other functionality totally wrong :-(
Thanks
Msuk
Check this out...
Someone over at HowardForums.com's Pocket PC forum was able to tell me that the Eten M500 Pocket PC Phone Edition uses the Microsoft Bluetooth stack (although "enriched" or modified) and they apparently can use Voice Command over the Bluetooth headset, and even activate it by pushing the action button on the headset!
http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=181 ... See "My new Eten M500" thread.
So, I'm asking anyone who's got the Extended ROM to upload it or post it somewhere so we can take a closer look!
Thanks people.
Anyone have o2 mini and Motorolla HS-850 bluetooth handsfree?
This handsfree is bluetooth v1.2. I am wondering if I can use this bluetooth for above purpose. Not perfect maybe, but at least I can get caller id readed by voice command better than sony HBH-660 caller id display.
Anyone with HS-850 please comment.
Thank you in advance.
Arto

How to detect pressing button on headset?

Does any known how to detect when user press answer button on headset? What event or message generated by system? I find only some event that occurs when user insert headset jack in phone.
The AG service gets a "AT+CKPD=200" message
What i'm interestet in ; How do you send these AT commands ?
I'm sorry, but what is "AG service"?
Audio Gateway.
As far as I remember WM5 has standart API to register AG message handler. WM2003SE and older don't have a standart way.
It's not good. I'm interested in WM2003
Voice Dialing via Bluetooth NOT available on Atom
I thought that when I bought my Atom I would have voice dialing over a Bluetooth Headset. My friend has an Exec and it works fine. However, not with the Atom. Even the latest ROM doesn't support it. I have 4 headsets, all pair in Handsfree profile, all have call answering, call ending and last number re-dial working perfectly, but none will initiate voice dialing with the Atom, but all will voice dial with my Nokia 6230.
Therefore it is not a WM5 built in feature and is still ROM dependant. It doesn't matter whether you use the built in voice program, Vito, Neuvoice or M$ Voicedial, the stack simply won't support the AT command.
C'mon O2, it's about the only thing that is crook with the Atom. Other than that it is just the worlds best pda/phone!
Re: Voice Dialing via Bluetooth NOT available on Atom
Camstech said:
I thought that when I bought my Atom I would have voice dialing over a Bluetooth Headset. My friend has an Exec and it works fine. However, not with the Atom. Even the latest ROM doesn't support it. I have 4 headsets, all pair in Handsfree profile, all have call answering, call ending and last number re-dial working perfectly, but none will initiate voice dialing with the Atom, but all will voice dial with my Nokia 6230.
Therefore it is not a WM5 built in feature and is still ROM dependant. It doesn't matter whether you use the built in voice program, Vito, Neuvoice or M$ Voicedial, the stack simply won't support the AT command.
C'mon O2, it's about the only thing that is crook with the Atom. Other than that it is just the worlds best pda/phone!
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Couldn't agree more!
About voice dialer. I thought it was just because Atom needs bluetooth headset button to be pressed for a while to launch dialer. It acts so with wired headset. Unfortunately, i have just one bluetooth headset to play with. And it turns off after 2 sec. holding the button.
On my Dopod 818pro everything acts like a charm (VD runs after a single press), so it isn't a WM5 bug.
can someone enable activating MS Voice Command from a wired headset for WM5?
it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
I have the same problem using a bluetooth headset but if I use the wired headset supplied with my Atom it works fine.
that's good news. so, many OEMs are realizing the importance of this feature. so far, they have it in the Treo 700w and according to you, the Atom.
btw, did you have MS Voice Command pre-installed in your Atom, or did you buy it separately?
thanks,
The talk button on the wired headset is a "fake" button. It generates an special pattern in the recorded audio that it's recognized by the phone application.
It generates an special pattern in the recorded audio that it's recognized by the phone application.
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Are you sure about that?
I've disembled quite a few headsets and the usual way is to shortcircut the mic-wire with one of the stereo-wires, whitch in return has to be cought by the mainboard and then translated to a command.
I'm not sure, but seems pretty feasible. That button is only used by the phone applicacion, which needs to open the wave input device.
Detecting the button pressing is pretty simple: recording at 16 bits, the average of the absolute value of the samples in complete silence is at least 100, with the talk button pressed, 6 or 7.

HELP PLEASE...Your supplied handfree working? Mine is NOT.

Hello all
Can you tell me is your supplied handfree working?
I just installed some mp3's onto a new SD card, while I had the headphones on I thought I would try handsfree, it does not work.
The silver button you press to activate voice dial or answer calls does nothing, and I cannot speak into the microphone, I can only hear calls.
I have voice tabbed my contacts, voice dialing works great on the phone but not the headset. Inside the phone, the phone menu has 'Turn Hands-free On', this is greyed out. Has this feature been removed from the phone?
The phone is Orange SPV M600
Thanks
i find the button on the headset useless. 9 times out of ten it does nothing, then suddently it will end a call or open the voice prompt. I gave up and put it down to a windowsism.
Well, mine can only answer calls, it will not start voice dial and will not open the phone app. No problems with sound or mic.
I use Motorola H350 anyway so it doesn't really bother me.
Thanks
From a lot of Googling I have found nothing official even mentioning the use of the handsfree they advertise and supply. However, it would appear that this phone is only capable of answering and closing calls with handsfree, so not truly handsfree.
You still have to take out your nice new, expensive toy in order to make a call, clearly advertising it to potential muggers. Where I live that is just about everyone you see.
Does seem strange though that cheap old Nokias can do this, but a nice new computerised phone can not. Then again it is Microsoft. I have only had it a week, but already I have found that WM5 is not very backward compatible with software. There are issues with bluetooth headsets (which is why I cancelled an order), and in a week just like old ME, I have lost count of the number Soft Resets that I have had to perform.
I find the most useless feature is the voice dial, you have to open, start, programs, voicedial to make a call or use it. Why not just run the app manually rather than trust voicedial to guess what your after.
Sorry guys but I am not sure what the fuss is about.
I had my phone for a month before getting the BT headset (no problems there by the way) so I assigned the voice speed dial to the comm manager button. Easy and useful and you have the comm manager icon in the today tray so the button is not a major loss.
Now that I have the H350 which is more comfortable than the wired hands-free any way, everything works smoothly but this is with the i-mate ROM. Perhaps your BT troubles are from the Orange ROM?
voice speed used to work.....
I have an H500 headset which used to work splendidly on my Orange M600. The silver button would launch voice dialling and pick up and end calls.
however I upgraded to the Dopod ROm and now it does bugger all! I can hear the calls, but the headset will not launch voice dialling, and all options are greyed out.
Question is, is this feature in the main ROm or the extended part....I have acopy of the Orane extended ROm but can't see anything that looks like the right cab file.
I did not let Dopod customisations run after upgrading, and I really don't want to do a hard reset again!
If anyone knows which file you need to install voice speed dialling I'd be grateful!
Re: voice speed used to work.....
sickboy555 said:
I have an H500 headset which used to work splendidly on my Orange M600. The silver button would launch voice dialling and pick up and end calls.
however I upgraded to the Dopod ROm and now it does bugger all! I can hear the calls, but the headset will not launch voice dialling, and all options are greyed out.
Question is, is this feature in the main ROm or the extended part....I have acopy of the Orane extended ROm but can't see anything that looks like the right cab file.
I did not let Dopod customisations run after upgrading, and I really don't want to do a hard reset again!
If anyone knows which file you need to install voice speed dialling I'd be grateful!
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The wired headset does not work fully, it can only be used to answer or close calls, it will not initiate voice dialing. I bought a cheap bluetooth headset off of ebay, it paired straight away and initiates voice dialing. I have never been able to get my headet to work, I now just plug it in if I want to play music.
I am not sure about Dopod and Orange ROMs, but in i-mate ROM the speed dial app it self (cyberon voice speed dial) is in the extended ROM while it's settings applet is in ROM.
As for the part that is responsible for answering / ending calls that should be in ROM with any version.
the H500 IS a bluetooth headset- it's a Motorola and wasn't cheap!
It used to work as I say, then I went to the Dopod ROM and now there is no voice speed dialing at all.
I can't seem to find the cyberon cab files anywhere....
sickboy555 said:
the H500 IS a bluetooth headset- it's a Motorola and wasn't cheap!
It used to work as I say, then I went to the Dopod ROM and now there is no voice speed dialing at all.
I can't seem to find the cyberon cab files anywhere....
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Sorry I read too quickly, I originally started this post before I got bluetooth as I could not get the wired set to work.
Hi
From what I had read in the past when I was having problems with my headset, Cyberon's Voice Speed Dial software is embedded in the OS it does not come as a cutomisation. I have just brought mine up and it simply says Cyberon Voice Speed Dial Setting Version 1.1 Build 51212. Copyright (c) 2005 Cyberon Corporation. There is nothing there related to Orange, and I can not find it in any of the Orange Extended ROM CABS.
I guess Microsoft did a deal with them to install it in the Phone Edition of WM5.

Few ms voice command questions

do both version 1.5 and 1.6 work with the atom?
does the registry patch with 1.5 make it work with a bluetooth headset?
does the voice dialer that comes with the atom exec interfere with voice command or do i simply install 1.6?
has anybody here used ms voice command, if so which version and with or without bluetooth and how is the performance?
thanks 4 any info
actually can the build-in voice dialer be made to work with a bluetooth headset, i tried but without luck
HI,
I'm using 1.6 with bluetooth and no problems
so you can voice dial with the bluetooth right?
did you have to do anything with the built-in voice dialer program or just ignore it
Just ignore it.
Microsoft Voice Command works well. It transfer the audio to headset when the headset button is pressed. You can even set it to make announcement to headset.
My only problem is, it speaks too fast & I do not know how to set it.
I'm running MSVC 1.6 on my Atom but the voice dial over BT headset does not work properly.......however 1.6 is much better than 1.5 and I would still recommend it.
Check out this registry edit to SLOW down MS Voice Commander. I set mine to 3 and it is just peeerfect!
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/increase_voice_command_speed
Thanks for the info, angusc.
I should have added that I have tried the Motorola HS700 and also the I-Tech Clip R35.....neither of these seem to work with MSVC but I think it is more to do with the O2 ATOM PDA rather than the BT headsets.

voice command 1.6 and jabra bt500

When I press the bt500's headset button to activate voice command I still have to speak into the trinitys built-in microphone and the responses come from the built-in speaker.
I've had a look around and the solutions so far seem to be for wm6, im still on wm5, or reg updates for keys I dont seem to have.
My apologies if I have missed anything obvious but is there a solution for this problem?
Also while im here is there a way to turn off the confirmation request for dialing contacts through voice command.
I'm having the same issues. I owned an imate Jamin before the this and it worked perfectly. I understand the jamin was manufactured by HTC so I do not know why the p3600 doesnt work.
Will Hermes Fix work?
Does the hermes fix for the voice command 1.6 issues work on the trinity?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils

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