registry hack.
I have a SE 662 headset and it will only work once, after that it seems like the gate is left in 'limbo' you cannot use the headset to 'initiate' VC again.
One warm reboot you can then use it once again.
I'm interested which headsets are working well, I've head about the bluespoon X2 but I can't find that on the UK websites.
Let me know.
Thanks.
Jabra.
Jabra, is that the 250 or the 800?
Thanks for the reply
the jabra headsets are real good. i use the bt250v with my wizard and the 800 with my universal, and they are amazing. performance is great, battery life is superb.
ciao!
my jabra BT330
is working great !!!!!!!!
I use my Wizard with a Motorola HS801 Bluetooth Headset! Works well with it! ;-)
peteborota: I was given a Sony headset to use with the Universal to figure out some hacks (search for VJElectrify), and I also found that after the first use of voice command, the audio gateway is left open. I made an app (VJVolubilis) to close the gateway, disable bluetooth, reopen bluetooth, repair and then open the gateway again. It works, but it's a damn longwinded way to re-gain control of VC.
However, since the guy that gave me the headset had successfully been using it with VC on the same hardware (Universal), I think there may be a software combination causing this spazz up. I will hardreset at some point and try again, but I'd be interested in feedback on this issue as well.
V
my Sony-Ericsson HBH-660 works perfect with my Wizard
Motorola H500 works great too :lol:
Plantronics Voyager 510 works too
Plantronics Voyager 510 - excellent
Moto 810 works well. One thing I did notice is that there is about a 1-2 second delay in ability to recognize commands.
My Moto HS810 works with voice command (more than once, but you have to press the button on the headset 3 times to get it to trigger VC)
voyager 510 did not trigger vc at all.. ever.
moto H700 triggered only once then I had to reboot the phone.
mototola h820,
motorola h820 works perfectly, even with clam shell closed, the salesmen in the store dealing with the headsets advised me that motorolla bosted much further range and battery life over most other headsets, he also said that the nokia head sets, had the worst range and battery life, may be just his expert opinion, but I've been very happy with my choice
Re: mototola h820,
I use nokia HD3-w and it works good,but i have a serious problem with imate k-jam.because when i press and hold the bluetooth button it doesn't wake up the device when it is in standby mode but when i double press the bluetooth button it works on dialing the last number.does anyone have the same problem.
and also i want to know how often do you put your device on standby mode because i usually press the power button after using the device for example after a call.
thanks for sharing :wink:
I HAVE BEEN USING MY 4 YEARS OLD BLUESPOON.
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LOVE IT..
IN THE US YOU CAN GET IT AT SOME RADIO SHACK, THE LOWEND VERSION,
Tamoochin,
I have the Jabra BT500 and it does the same thing your headset does - If I hold down the button for one second on the BT500, it wakes up the phone and dials the last number dialed. Like you, I turn off the power on the phone after each call. If I lightly tap on the BT500 button, the Blue Angel wakes up, and the headset symbol shows up in the top bar on the phone.
This leads me to believe that the Blue Angel could be programmed to start voice command instead of do the redial. Does anyone know how to do this. I have a PH20A (xv6600 from Verizon). I have Verizon's latest ship ROM and I've added Broadcom's High Quality Stereo A2DP profile which works great with the Bluetake Iphono 450rx stereo bluetooth headset.
Someone out there must know how to go into the registry and change the redial command to start voice command.
i have the logitech mobile freedom. if the device is out of standby then it work perfect with one tap. if it is on standby i get one tap and it does nothing. two taps and it wakes the device and three taps and the voice command comes on. doesn't work perfect but it works.
Nokia HS-21W - works flawlessly...
//NoX
My HBH-662 and a Jabra BT200 both only work once per soft-reset. This is after a hard reset, only apps installed are Total Commander and Voice Command.
Also happens with three ROM revisions: The hacked O2 one, The Qtek 1671, and the new Qtek 208 with Push e-mail.
Maybe somehow we have different builds of Voice Command installed? My version number from the control panel applet is 1.50.4333.24.
I hope we can get to the bottom of this, Voice Command is a great tool, especially considering how unweildy the 9100 is to dial in the car.
Related
Let me open up the convo by saying "what a complete nightmare"
I bought a BT headset this weekend (sony Ericsson HBH610)
apparently the firmware on my version is hidiously buggy (version R1A).
However when i use it with my nokia 6310 it works fine, when used with the jasjar its so unstable its untrue, here's what I've noticed.....
When you activate the voice dialing feature either by pressing the button on the jasjar or the button on the headset, voice dialing is activated and it listens for your voice instructions.
(1) if when you say a name it is found by your phone, dialing commences and sound is passed to the headset and everythings is ok
if on the other hand...
(2) you press the voicedial (again on headset or jasjar) and the voice is not found the entire phone hangs and you have to soft reboot. I mean how annoying can that be, isnt the whole point of handfree BT headsets so that you dont actually have to touch the phone.
Has anyone experienced this ?
does anyone know if Firmware for BT headsets can be upgraded by the user or is it a sony service centre job >?
I use a SE HBH-662 (with caller ID) and it works a treat. I dont face any of the problems you mentioned.
The btagsvc.dll on the Universal does exist, but it is empty (same with the HID dll). So that may be the reason why Audio Gateway is not working (getting the system sound forwarded to the BT headset).
Now, a friend showed me an interesting trick. Run a music file or any other program that outputs sound (like a navigation instruction from TomTom) and then press the Speed Voice Dial button.
Interesting, isn't it? So maybe all we need to do is prevent SpeedVoiceDial from exiting again?
Hey!!!!
A2DP is already there...just do a search :lol:
hdubli said:
Hey!!!!
A2DP is already there...just do a search :lol:
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If you're talking about the M$ stack on the Universal, then you'll have to elucidate a bit more than that - unless you mean:
"The A2DP profile is introduced in AKU 2.0 of Windows Mobile".
But then isn't that scheduled for first quarter 2006. Even then, surely it's down to HTC to make it available for the badging suppliers, o2, T-mobile, etc., to decide IF and WHEN to issue the update.
I tried the LaunchAPEnable = 0 registry hack but it won't stick. My Jabra 110 headset would only receive the audio for a few seconds and then it would all fall back into the Xda Exec. I'll try another headset just to be sure but I'd have to agree - this seems far from being solved.
EDIT: indeed it works with another headset (Solteras Halo). Is the Jabra too agressive in it's power saving quest?
nice to see its doing you head in master :lol: :lol: the jabra bt250 is the same as is my logtech and motorola bluespoon 3-4 secs via voice dial and nothing
nice to see its doing you head in master :lol: :lol: the jabra bt250 is the same as is my logtech and motorola bluespoon 3-4 secs via voice dial and nothing
I've been using a bluetooth headset (Jabra BT-800) to listen to audio books just fine on the JarJar Universal. There are two ways (so far) to get it to work. One, if you install Microsoft Voice Command and use the registry hack found in this forum to make it the default via the Voice Dial button, run it, then let it cancel on its own, the BT audio connection stays intact for running regular audio through it.
The second (and free) way is to use a utility found in the I730 forum in pdaphonehome.com called BTAudioToggle. Written for the I730, it works on the Universal too. I imagine it will work on all the flavors of the Universal. Connecting your BT headset, followed by running this BT app will also activate the BT audio connection. Its pretty rock solid though its mono, not A2DP
Nice application but it only works for Universal for a few seconds. Then it returns to the device with the voice dial application activated.....
So, it seems that I have to disable the voice dial application. Anyone knows how????
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
I tried the BTAudioToggle on the Xda Exec, and it doesn't seem to do anything .
@chris_khho: try a different headset. As I wrote the Solteras Halo was working fine with the registry hack but the Jabra 110 would only work for a few seconds. I'll need to check what profiles each of them suports.
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Hi!
BTAudioTogggle works on my QTEK 9000 for a few seconds when Voice Speed Dial is activated. Once Voice Speed Dial ends the music transfer stops
:roll:
Mine works fine and I've played my audio books for more than an hour and it never dropped. I'm not sure why it doesn't work for you guys. Maybe the reason the BTAudio hack works is because the MS Voice Command setup is installed and the BTAudio hack just makes use of it.
You know, now that I think of it, I have an I730 too and before the BTAudio hack came out, I was already using MS Voice Command to activate audio over BT. I think there's a (good) bug in Voice Command where VC does not release the audio stream if you activate it, then don't give it any commands. The BTAudio hack just made it easier to activate.
OK I see.
I tried this:
hklm\software\oem\voicecommand and set the value of "launchapenable" from 1 to 0
And it works with my i-tech clip s and jabra 258 (not sure the model no.), and WMP but it doesnt revert to BT headset after finished call....
Yes it is "mono" but its good though....just wait for AD2P..... Many people are working on it I think.....
Great People Great Work!!!!
Cheers,
Any more info on what each update fixes.
Of particular interest is the bluetooth patch????
Ok I see.
I tried this:
hklm\software\oem\voicecommand and set the value of "launchapenable" from 1 to 0
And it works with my i-tech clip s and jabra 258 (not sure the model no.), and WMP but it doesnt revert to BT headset after finished call....
Yes it is "mono" but its good though....just wait for AD2P..... Many people are working on it I think.....
Great People Great Work!!!!
Cheers,
_________________
Chris
Thanks Chris,
I have a o2 exd exec with the h500 and this works perfictly
Jeff
Sorry if you have already read this but I am still having a problem!!
I got the new Bluetake iphone mini stereo headphones for christmas and was hoping to use them with my MDA Pro (running the new O2 ROM).
I have them paired as a "Hands Free" device...
I know that I can't use the stereo features until the new A2DP patch come out (hopefully soon!), however what I want to be able to do is use voice command to initiate calls etc. However when I press the call/power or Play/Pause button all I hear is a beep from the headset and nothing hapens on the PDA...
However I can use the button to answer and hangup a call (as long as I answered it with the handset...) If I initiate the call on the MDA then I can't hangup with the headset...
Am I doing something wrong or does it sound like something is faulty??
Any advice?
Thanks
Andy.
I actually had an oportunity to try out the voice levels and sound is awful! I also tried to connect it to my SE T610 and it refused and it did the same when I tried to connect it to my Toshiba M200 tablet PC as in both cases it never asked for the passkey...
I am begining to think that they must be faulty??
But becuase I have never had a BT headset before so I'm not sure if I am doing something stupid!
Andy
I have managed to try a SE BT headset with my MDA Pro and it did work and activate voice command. So it would seem that the headset is faulty. Does anyone have any ideas before I send it back?
Andy
Please!! Is there anyone here who can comment on whether they think these are broken or if I am just incompetent!
If they are broken then I need to send them back really soon...
FWIW, my Jabra BT330 and the SE HBH-662 just need a single quick click to activate the voice dial, but these Plantronics Pulsar 590A things I just got (which are fandabidosi by the way!) need a prolonged press to do the same.
Have you tried keeping your finger on the button for a while?
Ferg.
andykemp said:
Sorry if you have already read this but I am still having a problem!!
I got the new Bluetake iphone mini stereo headphones for christmas and was hoping to use them with my MDA Pro (running the new O2 ROM).
I have them paired as a "Hands Free" device...
I know that I can't use the stereo features until the new A2DP patch come out (hopefully soon!), however what I want to be able to do is use voice command to initiate calls etc. However when I press the call/power or Play/Pause button all I hear is a beep from the headset and nothing hapens on the PDA...
However I can use the button to answer and hangup a call (as long as I answered it with the handset...) If I initiate the call on the MDA then I can't hangup with the headset...
Am I doing something wrong or does it sound like something is faulty??
Any advice?
Thanks
Andy.
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Just looked at the instructions for the bluetake i-phone (bt450rx),
(got them myself for xmas)
and it does not say that you can connect to the phone for voice control,
however you should be able to hang up from the headset.
i have got the k-jam (wizard) and can dial from the k-jam and hangup from the headset.
voice control may not be available because the new bluetooth stereo headset's are ready for AVRCP (Audio Video Remote Control Profile).
the older bluetake headset bt420rx can be used for voice control but do not have AVRCP function.
I hope i am wrong, but it may be the answer you have not been looking for.
Hmm... That sounds bad...
I only have a few days left to return it and don't know whether to get a replacement or to go for a different headset?
i like the idea of being able to play/pause/f-foward/rewind via the headset(when bt v2 upgrade is available), because music playback is more important to me than voice dial.
of course if you can send it back, then perhaps just wait until bt v2 is available, and then buy a headset for the uses you require it for.(wish there was an emotion with cross eyes) LOL
I know what you mean but I would still be able to use voice command!!
Does anyone else have the 450Rx and a universal and could test it for me?
if you do prove me wrong (and i hope you do) please let me know.
answering this problem further,
the bluetake i-phono mini headset cannot be used for voice command,
however the motorola ht820 can be used for voice control.
Had similar issues with my headset (not the same type). In the end, I had enable secure mode on the universal, pair the devices, select serial port and then immediately initiate the voice dial, otherwise it didn't work.
Gareth
I decided to play it safe and returned it back to Expansys for a refund. When someone else gets a set of stereo headphones and A2DP is out... and crucially they can confirm it works! Then I'll buy a new one!
Cheers
Andy
one good thing with motorola ht820 is that they can be used with a detatchable cable, so whilst i'm using them bluetooth for the phone side, i can still hear good quality music.
also i know from trying them with my wife's qtek s110 that you can control windows media player as well.
you may have already tried this, but just in case you haven't,
install and run the three files for either "bt off", "bt on", or "bt toggle",
this will switch all audio to the bt headset or away,
of course quality is not good, but at least no cables.
ps. if the headset is switch off and you put bt on, you will get an on screen error message.
aliendad said:
one good thing with motorola ht820 is that they can be used with a detatchable cable, so whilst i'm using them bluetooth for the phone side, i can still hear good quality music.
also i know from trying them with my wife's qtek s110 that you can control windows media player as well.
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Do they come with this cable as standard?
EDIT: Did a search, and they do.... might just buy them now and sell my Sony EX-71's.... would they we at least the same in terms of sound quality? It's the thing people talk about least with these devices!
So lemme see if I got this right.... even before I get A2DP installed on my Exec, I can listen to perfect music using the cable, and also use the hphones as a bluetooth headset as well? Will the music still pause etc when a call comes in?
Just bought a pair of HT820's on Ebay there.... £38, not too bad. Should get about £25-30 for two pairs of existing headphones, so well please.
Does any known how to detect when user press answer button on headset? What event or message generated by system? I find only some event that occurs when user insert headset jack in phone.
The AG service gets a "AT+CKPD=200" message
What i'm interestet in ; How do you send these AT commands ?
I'm sorry, but what is "AG service"?
Audio Gateway.
As far as I remember WM5 has standart API to register AG message handler. WM2003SE and older don't have a standart way.
It's not good. I'm interested in WM2003
Voice Dialing via Bluetooth NOT available on Atom
I thought that when I bought my Atom I would have voice dialing over a Bluetooth Headset. My friend has an Exec and it works fine. However, not with the Atom. Even the latest ROM doesn't support it. I have 4 headsets, all pair in Handsfree profile, all have call answering, call ending and last number re-dial working perfectly, but none will initiate voice dialing with the Atom, but all will voice dial with my Nokia 6230.
Therefore it is not a WM5 built in feature and is still ROM dependant. It doesn't matter whether you use the built in voice program, Vito, Neuvoice or M$ Voicedial, the stack simply won't support the AT command.
C'mon O2, it's about the only thing that is crook with the Atom. Other than that it is just the worlds best pda/phone!
Re: Voice Dialing via Bluetooth NOT available on Atom
Camstech said:
I thought that when I bought my Atom I would have voice dialing over a Bluetooth Headset. My friend has an Exec and it works fine. However, not with the Atom. Even the latest ROM doesn't support it. I have 4 headsets, all pair in Handsfree profile, all have call answering, call ending and last number re-dial working perfectly, but none will initiate voice dialing with the Atom, but all will voice dial with my Nokia 6230.
Therefore it is not a WM5 built in feature and is still ROM dependant. It doesn't matter whether you use the built in voice program, Vito, Neuvoice or M$ Voicedial, the stack simply won't support the AT command.
C'mon O2, it's about the only thing that is crook with the Atom. Other than that it is just the worlds best pda/phone!
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Couldn't agree more!
About voice dialer. I thought it was just because Atom needs bluetooth headset button to be pressed for a while to launch dialer. It acts so with wired headset. Unfortunately, i have just one bluetooth headset to play with. And it turns off after 2 sec. holding the button.
On my Dopod 818pro everything acts like a charm (VD runs after a single press), so it isn't a WM5 bug.
can someone enable activating MS Voice Command from a wired headset for WM5?
it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
I have the same problem using a bluetooth headset but if I use the wired headset supplied with my Atom it works fine.
that's good news. so, many OEMs are realizing the importance of this feature. so far, they have it in the Treo 700w and according to you, the Atom.
btw, did you have MS Voice Command pre-installed in your Atom, or did you buy it separately?
thanks,
The talk button on the wired headset is a "fake" button. It generates an special pattern in the recorded audio that it's recognized by the phone application.
It generates an special pattern in the recorded audio that it's recognized by the phone application.
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Are you sure about that?
I've disembled quite a few headsets and the usual way is to shortcircut the mic-wire with one of the stereo-wires, whitch in return has to be cought by the mainboard and then translated to a command.
I'm not sure, but seems pretty feasible. That button is only used by the phone applicacion, which needs to open the wave input device.
Detecting the button pressing is pretty simple: recording at 16 bits, the average of the absolute value of the samples in complete silence is at least 100, with the talk button pressed, 6 or 7.
Does anyone have a step-by-step way of removing that blasted Cyberon rubbish from the Ameo? I bought (having tried, um... other sources) MSVC 1.6 UK from Handango, wondering if perhaps a real EXE-from-PC install would somehow work "better", but same problems.
I had it working yesterday via BT headset to listen, but no notifications came through so commands were messed up. Removed it, and installed again; I've remapped the "Web 'n' Walk" key to activate it. Now what I don't understand is this:
Installed yesterday. No attempt to remove Cyberon:
Worked okay for a while. Worked with BT headset button. Didn't respond to commands from BSH-100 headphones, but they're junk anyway. Bluetooth started getting unreliable and wouldn't pair with Nokia BH-200 headset after working fine with it for an hour or so.
Removed MSVC. Reinstalled. It's in the startup folder and so forth. Button on wired headset triggers damn Voice Speed Dial. Haven't tried bluetooth yet. Responds to commands with hardware button, but no option exists to map command to wired headset button.
Removed Sddaemon startup item. STILL comes up when I use the wired headset button.
It's REALLY annoying and frustrating, as MS Voice Command DOES work effectively as a tool. It just doesn't, well, work. And I think nearly all of the problems it has are down to the presence of this Voice Speed Dial, which I will never use - I'm not recording voice tags for everything, this is the 21st Century!
Also, why doesn't TCPMP follow UI conventions?! It keeps starting up in portrait mode and won't fix itself unless I use the T-Mobile "screen rotation" icon.
EDIT:
Okay. I paired the Anycom headset to it.
As a Bluetooth headset, the button dials, makes calls, and if held, brings up Voice Commander. Notifications now come through the headset, and commands are definitely going to the device, but music is played through the unit, not the headphones.
As stereo headphones, the buttons work, but it doesn't hear commands from the microphone in the headphones - only via the built-in microphone. But music (with joint stereo enabled) comes through the headphones alright.
Other than that the Ameo definitely kicks arse, having GPS etc. built in is excellent. Is it really 802.11g, though - or is it like a hacked Universal with 802.11b speed pretending to be 802.11g?