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Can anyone tell me the truth ??? Is it possible or not ?
My previous GSM was a Motorola Timeport. When I had to telephone someone, I just spoke the name of that person, and my Motorola dialled the correct number.
For example I said "Parents", and the phone number of my parents was automatically dialled.
Can I do such thing with my BT headset Sony/ericsson HBH-35 and my Qtek 2020 ???
Some people say it is totaly impossibble ???
I cann´t tell you, if that would work, but i know, that you can use voice dial via some extra software. It works well.
What i don´t know, if you can use your BT for Voice recognition....
Stefan
Aha, thanks Stefan. ( we have almost the same flag - lol ! )
So voice-recognition would work, but only with the microphone of the Qtek itself, pobably not with bluetooth....
So I guess I have to use speed dial in the car...
yes, it´s possible with microsoft voice comand, try it¡¡ it´s very easy to install and very funny.
srlobo said:
yes, it´s possible with microsoft voice comand
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I assume you mean that voice-dialing is possible, NOT voice-dialing through a BT headset. Right?
From all of the information I have gathered, voice-dialing through a BT headset is just not possible at this time. If you have gotten it to work, I'll bet there are thousands who would like to know how you did it! :wink:
yeah i believe that there is some bluetooth profile required
there are some threads about it somewhere in hacking it forum
Rudegar wrote:
yeah i believe that there is some bluetooth profile required
there are some threads about it somewhere in hacking it forum
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I have searched and can find nothing that indicates that voice-dialing through BT works yet. There is a great deal of discussion, but no solution (that I can find). I believe that a BT HandsFree profile is required, but not included with the Himalaya BT implementation.
We can certainly hope that one is included in WM2003 SE, should that actually make it to this platform.
some people were talking about if it was possible to use the ipaq bluetooth stack on a xda2 if that works
I'm using Voice Dial sinse 3 month and it works grate. Even in the car I can ask any contact of my data base ( +/-1000) name of contact + mobile or at home etc... The program ask you for confirmation by reading once more the contact name and asks if this is correct.
If you say "yes" it compose the request phone number.
I'm using HBH 65 BT headset for phone and the intergreted micro from Qtek for voice recognition.
Try it for free at : http://www.fonix.com/page.cfm?name=product_fonix_voicedial&ID=14
I have the french version
So Kiyeko -
Are you saying that you can press the button on your BT headset, say a name from your contacts list into the microphone on the headset and the i-mate/XDA II/MDA II/QTEK 2020 will dial the number? If so, I would be interested to know what software recognizes the headset button-press as the initiator of the voice-dialing software.
I have tried Pocket BT Tools with Fonix Voice Dial and was never able to get it to recognize the headset button press as the initiator of the program. Oh, by the way - I tried it with the MS program as well.
Returning to the initial question posted by mvb95.
Yes, with your hardware (Qtek 2020 and HBH35) is possible to use voice recognition to put the calls.
You must install Vito Voice Dialer PE v3.0. Eventually assign a hardware button to the voice dialer. Record all the tag voices you want.
With both devices paired and turned on (HBH35 blinking green), press the hardware button assigned to Vito and say the tag (e.g.: “John”) to the headset. You don’t need to use the Qtek speaker, don’t need to press the HBH35 button, nor confirm the recognition with “yes”, like in the Fonix.
Is simple and ease.
vmgps wrote:
say the tag (e.g.: “John”) to the headset.
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Are you SURE it is using the headset microphone to input the name? I have downloaded and installed the program, then set a hardware button and recorded some voice tags.
When I press the hardware button, it does not activate my HBH-30 to input the tag, it records it with the device's microphone.
Are you using Pocket BlueTooth tools?
Hi Brian:
I use it always in my car.
My hardware: Qtek 2020 (Rom: 1.72.00WWE, Radio version: 1.14.00) and headset SE HBH-35.
I have tried several times covering the microphone hole with my finger and, by other side, speak to the headset 2 or 3 meters away from the Qtek.
With Vito you don’t need to say “Call John” but only “John”.
I don’t use the Pocket Bluetooth Tools because the latest Rom has the Bluetooth headset profile improved and this software doesn’t work with my car kit handsfree Nokia.
I can’t put my hands on fire, but the only thing I’m sure is that I can talk normally with the Vito Voice Dialer and the headset in my car.
registry hack.
I have a SE 662 headset and it will only work once, after that it seems like the gate is left in 'limbo' you cannot use the headset to 'initiate' VC again.
One warm reboot you can then use it once again.
I'm interested which headsets are working well, I've head about the bluespoon X2 but I can't find that on the UK websites.
Let me know.
Thanks.
Jabra.
Jabra, is that the 250 or the 800?
Thanks for the reply
the jabra headsets are real good. i use the bt250v with my wizard and the 800 with my universal, and they are amazing. performance is great, battery life is superb.
ciao!
my jabra BT330
is working great !!!!!!!!
I use my Wizard with a Motorola HS801 Bluetooth Headset! Works well with it! ;-)
peteborota: I was given a Sony headset to use with the Universal to figure out some hacks (search for VJElectrify), and I also found that after the first use of voice command, the audio gateway is left open. I made an app (VJVolubilis) to close the gateway, disable bluetooth, reopen bluetooth, repair and then open the gateway again. It works, but it's a damn longwinded way to re-gain control of VC.
However, since the guy that gave me the headset had successfully been using it with VC on the same hardware (Universal), I think there may be a software combination causing this spazz up. I will hardreset at some point and try again, but I'd be interested in feedback on this issue as well.
V
my Sony-Ericsson HBH-660 works perfect with my Wizard
Motorola H500 works great too :lol:
Plantronics Voyager 510 works too
Plantronics Voyager 510 - excellent
Moto 810 works well. One thing I did notice is that there is about a 1-2 second delay in ability to recognize commands.
My Moto HS810 works with voice command (more than once, but you have to press the button on the headset 3 times to get it to trigger VC)
voyager 510 did not trigger vc at all.. ever.
moto H700 triggered only once then I had to reboot the phone.
mototola h820,
motorola h820 works perfectly, even with clam shell closed, the salesmen in the store dealing with the headsets advised me that motorolla bosted much further range and battery life over most other headsets, he also said that the nokia head sets, had the worst range and battery life, may be just his expert opinion, but I've been very happy with my choice
Re: mototola h820,
I use nokia HD3-w and it works good,but i have a serious problem with imate k-jam.because when i press and hold the bluetooth button it doesn't wake up the device when it is in standby mode but when i double press the bluetooth button it works on dialing the last number.does anyone have the same problem.
and also i want to know how often do you put your device on standby mode because i usually press the power button after using the device for example after a call.
thanks for sharing :wink:
I HAVE BEEN USING MY 4 YEARS OLD BLUESPOON.
WWW.NEXTLINK.TO
LOVE IT..
IN THE US YOU CAN GET IT AT SOME RADIO SHACK, THE LOWEND VERSION,
Tamoochin,
I have the Jabra BT500 and it does the same thing your headset does - If I hold down the button for one second on the BT500, it wakes up the phone and dials the last number dialed. Like you, I turn off the power on the phone after each call. If I lightly tap on the BT500 button, the Blue Angel wakes up, and the headset symbol shows up in the top bar on the phone.
This leads me to believe that the Blue Angel could be programmed to start voice command instead of do the redial. Does anyone know how to do this. I have a PH20A (xv6600 from Verizon). I have Verizon's latest ship ROM and I've added Broadcom's High Quality Stereo A2DP profile which works great with the Bluetake Iphono 450rx stereo bluetooth headset.
Someone out there must know how to go into the registry and change the redial command to start voice command.
i have the logitech mobile freedom. if the device is out of standby then it work perfect with one tap. if it is on standby i get one tap and it does nothing. two taps and it wakes the device and three taps and the voice command comes on. doesn't work perfect but it works.
Nokia HS-21W - works flawlessly...
//NoX
My HBH-662 and a Jabra BT200 both only work once per soft-reset. This is after a hard reset, only apps installed are Total Commander and Voice Command.
Also happens with three ROM revisions: The hacked O2 one, The Qtek 1671, and the new Qtek 208 with Push e-mail.
Maybe somehow we have different builds of Voice Command installed? My version number from the control panel applet is 1.50.4333.24.
I hope we can get to the bottom of this, Voice Command is a great tool, especially considering how unweildy the 9100 is to dial in the car.
Does any known how to detect when user press answer button on headset? What event or message generated by system? I find only some event that occurs when user insert headset jack in phone.
The AG service gets a "AT+CKPD=200" message
What i'm interestet in ; How do you send these AT commands ?
I'm sorry, but what is "AG service"?
Audio Gateway.
As far as I remember WM5 has standart API to register AG message handler. WM2003SE and older don't have a standart way.
It's not good. I'm interested in WM2003
Voice Dialing via Bluetooth NOT available on Atom
I thought that when I bought my Atom I would have voice dialing over a Bluetooth Headset. My friend has an Exec and it works fine. However, not with the Atom. Even the latest ROM doesn't support it. I have 4 headsets, all pair in Handsfree profile, all have call answering, call ending and last number re-dial working perfectly, but none will initiate voice dialing with the Atom, but all will voice dial with my Nokia 6230.
Therefore it is not a WM5 built in feature and is still ROM dependant. It doesn't matter whether you use the built in voice program, Vito, Neuvoice or M$ Voicedial, the stack simply won't support the AT command.
C'mon O2, it's about the only thing that is crook with the Atom. Other than that it is just the worlds best pda/phone!
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Camstech said:
I thought that when I bought my Atom I would have voice dialing over a Bluetooth Headset. My friend has an Exec and it works fine. However, not with the Atom. Even the latest ROM doesn't support it. I have 4 headsets, all pair in Handsfree profile, all have call answering, call ending and last number re-dial working perfectly, but none will initiate voice dialing with the Atom, but all will voice dial with my Nokia 6230.
Therefore it is not a WM5 built in feature and is still ROM dependant. It doesn't matter whether you use the built in voice program, Vito, Neuvoice or M$ Voicedial, the stack simply won't support the AT command.
C'mon O2, it's about the only thing that is crook with the Atom. Other than that it is just the worlds best pda/phone!
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Couldn't agree more!
About voice dialer. I thought it was just because Atom needs bluetooth headset button to be pressed for a while to launch dialer. It acts so with wired headset. Unfortunately, i have just one bluetooth headset to play with. And it turns off after 2 sec. holding the button.
On my Dopod 818pro everything acts like a charm (VD runs after a single press), so it isn't a WM5 bug.
can someone enable activating MS Voice Command from a wired headset for WM5?
it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
I have the same problem using a bluetooth headset but if I use the wired headset supplied with my Atom it works fine.
that's good news. so, many OEMs are realizing the importance of this feature. so far, they have it in the Treo 700w and according to you, the Atom.
btw, did you have MS Voice Command pre-installed in your Atom, or did you buy it separately?
thanks,
The talk button on the wired headset is a "fake" button. It generates an special pattern in the recorded audio that it's recognized by the phone application.
It generates an special pattern in the recorded audio that it's recognized by the phone application.
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Are you sure about that?
I've disembled quite a few headsets and the usual way is to shortcircut the mic-wire with one of the stereo-wires, whitch in return has to be cought by the mainboard and then translated to a command.
I'm not sure, but seems pretty feasible. That button is only used by the phone applicacion, which needs to open the wave input device.
Detecting the button pressing is pretty simple: recording at 16 bits, the average of the absolute value of the samples in complete silence is at least 100, with the talk button pressed, 6 or 7.
The headset pairs ok, it works but unreliable: Calls are recieved ok, calls outgoing from the phonepad ok but the problem is voice-dial.
Sometimes it works as it should: I activate voice dial by the button on the BT headset and the call is made, no problem.
Nine out of ten times however the voice dial does get its audio input through the PHONE mike and not through the headset mike, which usually ends up with getting the complete wrong person on the phone.
This btw happens to be my father - in law, who is called Rob. Somehow all unclear voice dials that I create because of this malfunctioning system are directed to him and it drives him and me crazy!
So I just deleted his voice tag to prevent possible family relations getting ruined.....
Ok, back to business: Is this just the OEM voicedialprogram by Cyberon and will I be better off with another voice speed dialling program or is it the Bluetooth manager in the Hermes that is crap?
This happens on two different BT headsets I own: A Jabra 250 and a brandnew Plantronics Discovery 655.
Any ideas and suggestions on this subject are very welcome before I swap my VarioII for another device.......
dido here
i am trying a motorola 300 series or something on my MDA. everytime i activate the voice command thing it listens to the device instead of my BT headset. i thought it might be due to using the BTaudio changer program that lets my headset play music from the wizard but sounds like i'm not alone here. anyone got any ideas?
So I'm not the only one........One of the great features of such a device is that you can actually make notes and work your agenda etc. while talking on the phone. Now if the voice commands do not go through the headset it is pretty useless.
I think it is a BT related issue. I don't think another program like Microsoft Voice Command is going to change that.
It might be a bug in the T-Mobile rom. I have not seen this issue from Tytn users yet..........
i have the HTC tytn with Imate rom but still same problem as u guys. The bluetooth voice dialing only works with the Handset after while instead of the bluetooth Headset . However it does go back to normal after Reset...So i hope one day this problem will be solve
I am on MDA VARIO II (Dutch) and am using a cheap Bluetrek which costs I think 30 USD (got is for free when getting the VARIO II).
Works perfect
So you can actually make voice dial tags through the headset? And you also hear the confirmation through the headset? You can easily test this by covering the MDA mike and speaking softly the voicetag in the headset.
Please give me your rom and radio info?
My ROM versions:
ROM: 1.21.114.3
Date: 06/20/06
Radio: 1.05.02.00
Protocol: 32.36.7010.04H
Th truth is though, I have only two voice tags: Home & Office.
Those two usually work just fine. I recorded them via the Vario and not via the headset.
To tell you the truth, when I used any of my WM 5 devices I never used to have many voicetags, just can't be bothered to record them all. I did use the Cyberon voice comander, which seems to work beter then the voice dial thing that is built into the ROM. Although for us dutch people, you have to learn how to pronounce the dutch names (like Nachtigaal for example) in an english manner , LOL
I think my Vario II is faulty. I have not seen this issue on any other forum yet. I will walk into a T-Mobile shop this week and see how the headsets performs on another Vario II. If it does work I'll swap mine for another one.
Keep you posted..........
Jeroen,
Can you post the serial number of your device and the approx. Date of purchase? I have an acuaintance who has an VARIO II and he seems to complain about the Alignment problems ! Strange I thought that T-Mobile's Vario II's were cured of this disease.
Thanx
P.S. Oh and also of course if you are suffering from the Alignment probs?
Ok, today I checked the BT handsfree profile functionality with another Vario II at the local T-Mobile shop and it worked fine. So my Vario II was declared faulty and I will recieve a new one as soon as T-Mobile NL gets the new batch in.
Churchill: I have a 634 Series and I bought it two weeks ago. I only experienced SA issues two times.
Thanx Jeroen,
I seem to have the SA issue sporadically, and it started after I tryed a taiwanese software for businesscard scan & ecognition. I need to find time to perform a hard reset
My Vario 2 does the exact same thing sometimes the voice dial actually works throught the handsfree mic, but most of the time it wants me to actually speak to the phone. I HAVE SEEN THIS PROBLEM MANY TIMES BEFORE, so I dont think its your headset, I know some people got around it by installing Microsoft Voice command, but for it to work properly with that I think it is necessary for the Bluetooth headset to have te serial profile. (dont quote me on that last bit!!) But like I said I think its a common issue.
Jeroen!
I started to become worried that i might have the same issue like you with the Voice tags. So today I have recorded a bunch of them (approx 15) then hid my phone inside my suit jacket and then put my coat on and then tryed to dial using my Bluetrek S21 (which I got for free with my Vario II) every single voice tag worked on the first try. I have recorded the voice tags using the phone itself without the headset.
So it must really be a faulty device, but hey you knew that already
Workaround!!
I was having similar problems with the voice sometimes coming from the Bluetooth Headset and sometimes coming from the phone speaker itself. After a bit of investigation, I have found out that if the voice tag was not recognized / successful, the next time the sound will come from the phone and will not be transferred to Bluetooth. If the voice tag is recognized successfully, the next time it will work properly.
I have found a workaround for the problem. If after pressing the Bluetooth call button, the voice comes from the phone, I quickly press the Bluetooth call button again, and the voice from Bluetooth mic is recognized properly.
I don't know about the other Headsets, but with my Headset (Sony Ericsson HBH-662), I hear a short beep each time the audio is switched to Bluetooth and back. So for me the sequence of operation is normally like this.
Normal Operation:
-Press Bluetooth Call button
-Short Beep (Audio transferred to Bluetooth)
-Beep from Voice Dial Software (Indication to start speaking)
-Speak the Voice Tag
-Repeat of Recognized Voice Tag from the Voice Dial Software
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred back to Phone)
-Phone Dialing Start
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred to Bluetooth. Similar to when manually dialing)
-Normal conversation
Error In Operation:
-Press Bluetooth Call button
-Short Beep (Audio transferred to Bluetooth)
-Short Beep (Audio transferred back to Phone)
-Beep from Voice Dial Software (from Phone speaker)
(At this time if you speak into the phone mic, the normal operation will start)
-Error Beep from Voice Dial Software (from Phone speaker)
-Next time the same error will be experienced.
Workaround:
-Press Bluetooth Call button
-Short Beep (Audio transferred to Bluetooth)
-Short Beep (Audio transferred back to Phone)
-Quickly press Bluetooth Call button again (no short beep will be heard)
-Beep from Voice Dial Software (from Phone speaker or from Bluetooth if you are quick enough)
-Speak the Voice Tag (Bluetooth Mic)
-Repeat of Recognized Voice Tag from the Voice Dial Software
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred back to Phone)
-Phone Dialing Start
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred to Bluetooth. Similar to when manually dialing)
-Normal conversation
After this the next time normal operation will be resumed.
I hope that this works for others also. Please give your comments.
Effan
Orange SPV M310 has same issues
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Ok, today I checked the BT handsfree profile functionality with another Vario II at the local T-Mobile shop and it worked fine. So my Vario II was declared faulty and I will recieve a new one as soon as T-Mobile NL gets the new batch in.
Churchill: I have a 634 Series and I bought it two weeks ago. I only experienced SA issues two times.
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I have been driven nuts trying to find a solution to this exact problem. I have a UK Orange SPV M3100 and use a Motorola HS850 Bluetooth headset. I have never managed to initiate a call through the headset, it always requires me to speak the name into the phone itself... useless and dangerous when driving!
So your T-Mobile Vario II was faulty? Maybe there are a bad batch of Hermes devices. I will try taking mine into the Orange shop and see if I can get it to work on another unit... maybe I have a faulty phone too.
I will post back my results, just in case other have the same issues.
MW
You should check out the 'MS VoiceCommand 1.6 with Bluetooth and TyTN?' thread.
It's rather long and techy, and doesn't just apply to using MS VoiceCommand 1.6. but it basically does resolve the issue with the Tytn where voice input is not directed to the bluetooth device after pressing the call button.
It took me 3 attempts to get it working, following the instructions in the thread, but it does work very well now.
It is also documented on the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils
Good luck.
hi to everyone, i recently got a new x2 (upgraded from my x1) i'm not a newbie around this forum but i've searched the whole forum and can't find an answer to my little problem.
i've installed cyberon voice dialer and btjetfix (so that i can use voicedialing on my x2) but but my problem is that i press the button on my bt headset and it activates voicedialing but the sound is not routed to my bt hesdset microphone, but to my phone microphone, if i call the name that i want it uses the phone's microfone and the sound is heard on my phone's speaker but the call is routed to my bt headset. that makes it impossible for me to call using my bt headset when my phone is in my pocket. all the above worked very sucsesfully on my x1 but now it's driving me crazy, is there any registry key that i can activate or deactivate to make it work properly?
other than that the phone is quite good i've had no other problems with it so far. thanks to everyone in advance.