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Pocket Outlook email storage location patch..

Hi all,
Not sure if anyone saw this:
http://www.elgix.com/products/index.htm
It looks like a patch to change the location for email storage location (not attachments but the actual emails). Patch says it's for the MPx but do you guys think it will work work with the Magician? Anyone brave enough to give it a try?

Using Pocket Outlook Storage patch on Magician.
Hi All,
First of all, we have NOT tested this patch on any device other than the MPx. Generally speaking the patch should work on any device running PPC 2003/SE, but there is one issue. The MPx has 16Mb of built-in flash memory called ResidentFlash. What we've done is we've hard-coded the path to this ResidentFlash in the program, and you can select where you want your Outlook data -- either in the internal memory, the storage card (if one is available), or in the ResidentFlash (which won't be available on the Magician). This means that it should be possible to use the storage card, but you'll still see the ResidentFlash option, which won't work. If you install this on any device other than an MPx, do NOT select ResidentFlash. We might update the control panel applet to remove the ResidentFlash option when it's not available.
Please send mail to [email protected] if you have any questions.
Enjoy,
-- Eldad.

Just installed the patch on the magician and it works very well. Right after changing the location of the mails, i just put my whole exchange box on my device !! Now i always have everything with me, thanks for this patch guys !!

thanks for the patch........ works great on my imate jam and love it...... another idea can you make a patch to move the SMS messages to the storage card?! it would be great if it you could....
thank you again

Was just about to ask if there was a hack a registry tweak for this when this patch arrived.
Unfortunately, I can't get it to work on my MDA. After transferring all my emails from internal memory to the storage card, I can no longer read the body of the message. The email still appears in my inbox, but the text is missing.
Fortunately, I just re-transferrd all the emails from the storage card to the internal memoery and everything seems fine again.

jian said:
Was just about to ask if there was a hack a registry tweak for this when this patch arrived.
Unfortunately, I can't get it to work on my MDA. After transferring all my emails from internal memory to the storage card, I can no longer read the body of the message. The email still appears in my inbox, but the text is missing.
Fortunately, I just re-transferrd all the emails from the storage card to the internal memoery and everything seems fine again.
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I tried this on my O2 Mini (running Anansky's ROM with 27MB storage) and had the same problem. The emails appear in Inbox but the body is empty when i click on them. Moved the email back to Internal Memory and its ok again.
Anyway, it would be really nice if "Storage" is included as an option in addition to the existing "ResidentFlash, Internal Memory, Storage Card". Those using the 27MB storage can move the emails there.

Must soft-reset the device before relocating emails.
jian and patrickquek,
Did you make sure to soft-reset your devices after installing the patch? It sounds like the program was installed, but the device wasn't restarted -- that's exactly what would cause emails to appear blank.
We are preparing another version that uses the "Storage" folder instead of "ResidentFlash". That would work for HTC devices such as the Magician, Blue Angel, etc. This version should be available before the end of the week.
-- Eldad.

I am lost (
Guys, can you direct me how to move e-mail to storage card, please?
I installed the patch, however cannot find any interface to work with.
I have a JAM.
Thanking you in advance.

noviur,
When you click the Start button, go to Settings, and then click the System tab, do you see an item called "Outlook Storage"? That's where you can control your outlook storage settings. Please let me know if this item is not available on your device.
Thanks,
-- Eldad.

Thank you, ldoogy.
After checking System tab i could not find it mentioned below item, however I did installation to the Card instead of default location - that was the reason why it did not work.
I had to reinstall it and not it works as you said. So thank you and for sure moving SMS files would be really an asset
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hi ldoogy,
Thanks for coming here and helping us out. Anyways I am having a couple of issues with the app. It seems like I am able to move existing emails from internal memory to storage card and vise versa but like the previous 2 posters above, the contents on the email is missing. The attachments are there but the body text of the email is not showing. Moving it back to internal memory clears that problem. Another issue I am having is that whenever I get a new email, the email is still default to internal memory instead of storage card. I made sure storage card was selected in the app and soft resets has performed. Maybe I misunderstand what the purpose of this app is. Is it app only intend to move existing emails and not new emails coming in? Thanks again for this app and all your help! Looking forward to hearing from you.

Hi All,
Looks like our patch only works on the MPx for now. We've now tested it in-house on a PDA2K and got the same results. The storage redirection mechanism just doesn't work on the HTC devices. We are currently working on a fix for this problem and will hopefully post it in the next few days. I would recommend that you refrain from installing this patch on any HTC devices until we have resolved these issues.
I will post a message once we have a version that works on HTC devices (I expect we'll have one version that will work for both Magician and Blue Angel).
Cheers,
-- Eldad.

The elgix outlook storage icon does appear in my system folder and it seems to have succeeded in moving my messages (took about 9 mins).
There is a (new?) directory on my card called messaging filled with *.mpb files. Am I correct in assuming that these are the message files and that the patch worked fine on my MDA Compact with T-mobile english rom ?
Many thanks,
Martin

thinksmart said:
The elgix outlook storage icon does appear in my system folder and it seems to have succeeded in moving my messages (took about 9 mins).
There is a (new?) directory on my card called messaging filled with *.mpb files. Am I correct in assuming that these are the message files and that the patch worked fine on my MDA Compact with T-mobile english rom ?
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Martin, you are correct that the .mpb files are the message files, but moving them is really just the first part of what the patch does. The real purpose of the patch is to redirect file requests from Outlook to the storage card. The problem that most people here seem to be having is that the redirection doesn't work, which results in all of their email messages showing up as empty when viewed from Outlook. For now the solution is to copy the messages back to the internal memory. We're currently trying to figure out why the redirection isn't working.
-- Eldad.

Re: Must soft-reset the device before relocating emails.
ldoogy said:
jian and patrickquek,
Did you make sure to soft-reset your devices after installing the patch? It sounds like the program was installed, but the device wasn't restarted -- that's exactly what would cause emails to appear blank.
We are preparing another version that uses the "Storage" folder instead of "ResidentFlash". That would work for HTC devices such as the Magician, Blue Angel, etc. This version should be available before the end of the week.
-- Eldad.
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a little late now seeing that you have already established the cause of the problem, but yes, i did reset the device after instaling the patch!
Thanks for the feedback!

ldoogy said:
Hi All,
Looks like our patch only works on the MPx for now. We've now tested it in-house on a PDA2K and got the same results. The storage redirection mechanism just doesn't work on the HTC devices. We are currently working on a fix for this problem and will hopefully post it in the next few days. I would recommend that you refrain from installing this patch on any HTC devices until we have resolved these issues.
I will post a message once we have a version that works on HTC devices (I expect we'll have one version that will work for both Magician and Blue Angel).
Cheers,
-- Eldad.
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Thanks for helping out!

Thanks!!
I also got the same problem of blank emails...

WARNING! BEWARE !!!
ldoogy , thanks for your response.
After running the patch everything seemed fine, but I then realised that I couldn't open outlook anymore.
Then tried a soft reset, but the machine wouod no longer reboot because it would hang with a message something like "autocheckrun or one of it's components can't be found. After a minute it would reboot again, and again.... Tried without memory inserted but didn't help.
Had to hard reset and restore a backup.
I'm running an ms exchange email account, could that have something to do with my issue?
Thanks,
Martin

problems overview
Interesting,
I did not have any of the above mentioned problems with my JAM. Everything was working fine, until..... I connected my JAM to my desktop for synchronization.... ActiveSync in JAM could not get initialized and I had to to HR.
So the patch is very useful, however better to wait for the one, specifically for JAM.
Hoping to see it soon
Thank you

I had the same Problems as thinksmart: after the softreset, my blue angel wasn't able to find bttrayicon or so. Needed to perform a hardreset and backup data. Kept me awake until four o clock in the morning...

Just started getting "storage memory is critically low&

Hope somebody can give me a quick answer to this one.
I got up this morning to find that my MDA Pro is now reporting the "storage memory is critically low" error. Previous to this I'm *sure* it had at least 5Mb available. I've not installed anything (for weeks) so really can't understand it. What it has done in the meantime is synced my mail but all attachments are due to be soted on teh stoage card (but when checking the mail account settings there are currently 0k of attachments being stored).
I have soft-reset the device with no change in the storage space.
What I'd like to find is a utility that will tell me folder sizes so I can see what is being taken up where .... can't seem to find anything as yet that is free.
Any suggestions for software or any suggestions full stop?

mate,
I had a similar issue, check you haven't been inadvertently pressing the record button and making note recordings.
Go into notes and check it from there
Cheers

numanoids said:
mate,
I had a similar issue, check you haven't been inadvertently pressing the record button and making note recordings.
Go into notes and check it from there
Cheers
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That's what it was for me. Well, something very similar.

check the internet cache and the terminal server cache if you use it, these can grow quickly without realising. I have started immediately deleting cache content everytime I finish.
ie menu tools options, 2nd tab delete offline.

That is true. I gained 13MB by deleteing the offline cache files.

Yup I.E. Cache, plus, i also had my emails (mainly voicemail .wav file attachments) saving onto the main memory, it's in the messages folder under windows.
I deleted those, and moved my storage for my email attachments to my SD card.
Freed up like 15mb like this..

Great work
Many thanks guys, I have been searching for all sorts of methods to free up some memory. I had installed alot of programes on my XDA Exec and thought I have used up all my memory and was strugling to get some memory back. But this trick of deleting offline files from the Internet Explorer is just given me 13.77MB. Walla, many thanks again.

cache size
I think the problem is that the cache size is set to some ridiculously high number in the registry, but there's no way to change it. I tried many times to reduce it from the apparent 16MB setting (I think it was 16MB) in MemMaid, but after a soft reset, it goes back to 16MB. Anybody have a solution to this?

Get Memmaid and run it once in a while..

Just started getting "storage memory is critically low
I use Memmaid and got it to put my IE & Avantgo cache on SD card

gunigugu said:
Yup I.E. Cache, plus, i also had my emails (mainly voicemail .wav file attachments) saving onto the main memory, it's in the messages folder under windows.
I deleted those, and moved my storage for my email attachments to my SD card.
Freed up like 15mb like this..
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can you walk me through how this would work. Do I just cut and paste the folder. Will I still be able to access the attachments?

Indestructible files ???

Hi,
Hope someone can help me here - my O2 XDA Exec has been steadily getting slower and slower of late - been months since I installed anything new - takes several minutes to boot up...
Anyway decided to have a clear-out so deleted loads of messages, cleared out temp files, duplicate notifications etc. with Pocket Mechanic... then rebooted to see if my clean-up had helped.
It didn't - All the duplicate notifications came back - and so did all the text and MMS messages! I've tried 3 times now - even deleting everything in the deleted items folder - reboot and bang they're back again! What on earth is going on, and more importantly what can I do to sort it???
Thanks in advance!

Have you tried to delete them through active sync? when you explore your PDA? try that... just go to de folders you want and delete the files, like the files in the folder "Temp".
If you can not delete them... check the attributes of the file if they are read only.... otherwise you have the last resort to flash the same ROM or new ROM that you can find on this forum.
Have you check at settings/system/memory and see if you have enough free memory... have you tried at tab "running programs" and try to stop all... see if the pda gets noticable faster??

I can't try activesync until I get home from work...
According to the Memory utility I have:
9.28MB of free Storage Memory
24.07MB of free Program Memory
(I have 1.5GB free on my SD card but that's not really relevant)
There are no running programs listed in task manager.
What I don't understand is when I delete the messages - they vanish, same for the notification queue, so long as I don't reboot they're gone. Something during boot-up seems to be copying them back???

Try these... take your SD card out of your PDA... then delete the files you want... boot up without the SD Card and see if they are back.

Thought you might be on to something there... but nooooooooooooo :-(
Removed card, deleted, checked everything was deleted, rebooted (still without the SD card) and everything is back again! Bloody weird!
Cheers,
Steve

Okay.. hmmm.... which file explorer do you use? resco, standard file explorer of WM5.0 or total commander???
if you use other than the standard file explorer of WM5.0 try using that one... i have a feeling that you tried that one already...

For that last test without the SD card I was just deleting Text/MMS messages using the standard mail viewer software. Highlighting all messages, deleting them then emptying the Deleted Items folder...

Steve-L said:
For that last test without the SD card I was just deleting Text/MMS messages using the standard mail viewer software. Highlighting all messages, deleting them then emptying the Deleted Items folder...
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How about the option in Text messages to clear all text messages? (Dont think it actually empties the deleted folder though - thats a manual process)
Remember reading that after creating a new email account, if the universal is soft reset within 5 minutes, then the account will not be saved. Perhaps the reverse is true in that you have to wait 5 minutes after deleting before resetting.
Matt

matt1971 said:
Remember reading that after creating a new email account, if the universal is soft reset within 5 minutes, then the account will not be saved. Perhaps the reverse is true in that you have to wait 5 minutes after deleting before resetting.
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Give that man a cigar!
Deleted - waited 10 minutes (to be extra safe) and rebooted. Messages remained deleted. What an annoying "feature" - must have always been like that but I've never rebooted soon enough to notice!
Now to see if the same applies to the notification queue :?: EDIT: Yes it does!
Thanks,
Steve

Yeah there is an entry in the notifications queue, repllog or something like that, that fires every 5 minutes. Its purpose seems to be to write changes that you've made from cache RAM to the built-in flash storage memory, the idea is that it extends the life of the flash memory and probably the battery too.
So if you make changes to things like outlook and the notifications queue and then soft reset without waiting at least 5 minutes, then you will lose those changes. Really the OS should be saving those changes whenever you request a soft reset, a minor bug perhaps, but one that should be easy to solve with a third party app...

Need To Hard Reset What Do I Save?

My active sync has stopped working so i need to save my copy of tomtom i have on my phone to my memory card, what files do i save it it and where will they be on my phone.

If you have appt.'s and/or contacts stored you should save your pim.vol file found under My Device. Put a copy of it on your storage card. But the extent to which you need to copy things across depends mostly on what you've used your device for to this point.
I had to hard reset last night, which was my first time doing so since I started using Sbp Backup months ago. I had done a backup three days ago, before my 8125 started acting strangely. I did the hard reset and then double-clicked on the most recent backup and everything came back as it was. Nice to know a modest investment paid off so well.
G'luck!

dont forget your text messages too. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31395&d=1163534696
this is a great utility for it. i just updated my rom today and it was flawless.

WELSHDRAGONRACING said:
My active sync has stopped working so i need to save my copy of tomtom i have on my phone to my memory card, what files do i save it it and where will they be on my phone.
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Make sure you save all your maps and voices.

guttrhead said:
dont forget your text messages too. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31395&d=1163534696
this is a great utility for it. i just updated my rom today and it was flawless.
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I downloaded the file that you have provided the link to. It has 2 files in it with extension *.001
What do I do with it?
EDIT: I renamed the file to *.cab. This utility is excellent. It does exactly what everybody around here needs. It backs up all your SMSes and ONLY your SMSes. It holds all the information... Caller ID's, multiple text message (160 characters or more). Basically it backs it up and restores it to the way it originally was. The only problem that I noticed however is that it only backs up SMSes that are in the Inbox. Subfolders and the Deleted Items Folder are ignored. If you want all your SMSes, I suest you move everything in the subfolders back to the INBOX and then back it up. After restoration you can segregate them into other folders.
Again, thanks for tha APP. It's exactly what everybody around here needs.

leepriestenator said:
I downloaded the file that you have provided the link to. It has 2 files in it with extension *.001
What do I do with it?
EDIT: I renamed the file to *.cab. This utility is excellent. It does exactly what everybody around here needs. It backs up all your SMSes and ONLY your SMSes. It holds all the information... Caller ID's, multiple text message (160 characters or more). Basically it backs it up and restores it to the way it originally was. The only problem that I noticed however is that it only backs up SMSes that are in the Inbox. Subfolders and the Deleted Items Folder are ignored. If you want all your SMSes, I suest you move everything in the subfolders back to the INBOX and then back it up. After restoration you can segregate them into other folders.
Again, thanks for tha APP. It's exactly what everybody around here needs.
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Its good to see even an old thread helps people.

Dash 3G memory full issue

I upgraded to 6.5 on my stock 6.1 Dash. Everything is working fine except sometimes when I have the phone on for say a half day or so (not exact), a notice comes up saying that my memory is full, delete messages.
When I check device info, it shows I've got 25MB+ left on the flash. Is this some sort of known memory leak?
I've only installed Windows Live, Office Communicator and that's it. My work uses Exchange Server. I didn't have this issue with 6.1. When the memory is full, I think I'm missing text messages as it tells the sender that it's undeliverable to me.
Any clue? TIA!

You could try SKtools lite and clean out your notifications and temporary and cache folders. That's what I used for the old dash. Seems like using your exchange server or keeping all your text messages is causing this. I would download it. It's freeware.
http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_lite.html

pfunkside said:
You could try SKtools lite and clean out your notifications and temporary and cache folders. That's what I used for the old dash. Seems like using your exchange server or keeping all your text messages is causing this. I would download it. It's freeware.
http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_lite.html
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I installed and ran it. Then I rebooted it. I'll let you know if I continue to get the notification about full memory. Thank you for your help!

I'm still getting the memory is full delete messages. I don't have that many messages in there!