I have my email set to store all attachments to my memory card and the other day I got a rather large attachment sent to me. For some reason halfway through downloading it I got a low memory error so I cancelled the download and deleted the email.
The problem is I still have only about 1mb of free space when I look at the memory tool in settings.
I emptied my deleted folder and its still there. I did a search to find any large files and cannot see what is taking all the space.
Any ideas?
Try memmaid. It will show you where your space is being used up within folders.
V
Thanks
Hi,
Hope someone can help me here - my O2 XDA Exec has been steadily getting slower and slower of late - been months since I installed anything new - takes several minutes to boot up...
Anyway decided to have a clear-out so deleted loads of messages, cleared out temp files, duplicate notifications etc. with Pocket Mechanic... then rebooted to see if my clean-up had helped.
It didn't - All the duplicate notifications came back - and so did all the text and MMS messages! I've tried 3 times now - even deleting everything in the deleted items folder - reboot and bang they're back again! What on earth is going on, and more importantly what can I do to sort it???
Thanks in advance!
Have you tried to delete them through active sync? when you explore your PDA? try that... just go to de folders you want and delete the files, like the files in the folder "Temp".
If you can not delete them... check the attributes of the file if they are read only.... otherwise you have the last resort to flash the same ROM or new ROM that you can find on this forum.
Have you check at settings/system/memory and see if you have enough free memory... have you tried at tab "running programs" and try to stop all... see if the pda gets noticable faster??
I can't try activesync until I get home from work...
According to the Memory utility I have:
9.28MB of free Storage Memory
24.07MB of free Program Memory
(I have 1.5GB free on my SD card but that's not really relevant)
There are no running programs listed in task manager.
What I don't understand is when I delete the messages - they vanish, same for the notification queue, so long as I don't reboot they're gone. Something during boot-up seems to be copying them back???
Try these... take your SD card out of your PDA... then delete the files you want... boot up without the SD Card and see if they are back.
Thought you might be on to something there... but nooooooooooooo :-(
Removed card, deleted, checked everything was deleted, rebooted (still without the SD card) and everything is back again! Bloody weird!
Cheers,
Steve
Okay.. hmmm.... which file explorer do you use? resco, standard file explorer of WM5.0 or total commander???
if you use other than the standard file explorer of WM5.0 try using that one... i have a feeling that you tried that one already...
For that last test without the SD card I was just deleting Text/MMS messages using the standard mail viewer software. Highlighting all messages, deleting them then emptying the Deleted Items folder...
Steve-L said:
For that last test without the SD card I was just deleting Text/MMS messages using the standard mail viewer software. Highlighting all messages, deleting them then emptying the Deleted Items folder...
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How about the option in Text messages to clear all text messages? (Dont think it actually empties the deleted folder though - thats a manual process)
Remember reading that after creating a new email account, if the universal is soft reset within 5 minutes, then the account will not be saved. Perhaps the reverse is true in that you have to wait 5 minutes after deleting before resetting.
Matt
matt1971 said:
Remember reading that after creating a new email account, if the universal is soft reset within 5 minutes, then the account will not be saved. Perhaps the reverse is true in that you have to wait 5 minutes after deleting before resetting.
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Give that man a cigar!
Deleted - waited 10 minutes (to be extra safe) and rebooted. Messages remained deleted. What an annoying "feature" - must have always been like that but I've never rebooted soon enough to notice!
Now to see if the same applies to the notification queue :?: EDIT: Yes it does!
Thanks,
Steve
Yeah there is an entry in the notifications queue, repllog or something like that, that fires every 5 minutes. Its purpose seems to be to write changes that you've made from cache RAM to the built-in flash storage memory, the idea is that it extends the life of the flash memory and probably the battery too.
So if you make changes to things like outlook and the notifications queue and then soft reset without waiting at least 5 minutes, then you will lose those changes. Really the OS should be saving those changes whenever you request a soft reset, a minor bug perhaps, but one that should be easy to solve with a third party app...
hey there,
i've had my MDA for over a year. don't have many apps installed other than what came with it. i don't take photos, video, or store any music. i've cleared the PIE cache, used memmaid to help solve other issues and my email accounts are empty. nothing seems to work. i can only clear up 1.5 mb.
i installed a new rom last year. when i ran backup to reinstall everything after the rom update, there is phantom email account. i can't find it anywhere, but the start up screen always tell me i have 17 unread emails. i click on it, and nothing. not sure how much memory that would clear up.
any suggestions on what files to erase? in /windows folders, the messaging folder has 35MB of stuff in it. can i kill this?
cheers,
whalien
Try using ClearTemp (http://mobile-sg.com/). If that doesn't work, it's probably a registry entry that needs to be cleared.
used memmaid...
hey there,
thanks for the post. i used memmaid. didn't clear up much. looks like cleartemp does the same thing for the most part. any thoughts on registry issue? i notice a ton of .dll files in the /windows folder. seems like there must be some redundancies.
thanks again,
whalien
whalien said:
hey there,
i've had my MDA for over a year. don't have many apps installed other than what came with it. i don't take photos, video, or store any music. i've cleared the PIE cache, used memmaid to help solve other issues and my email accounts are empty. nothing seems to work. i can only clear up 1.5 mb.
i installed a new rom last year. when i ran backup to reinstall everything after the rom update, there is phantom email account. i can't find it anywhere, but the start up screen always tell me i have 17 unread emails. i click on it, and nothing. not sure how much memory that would clear up.
any suggestions on what files to erase? in /windows folders, the messaging folder has 35MB of stuff in it. can i kill this?
cheers,
whalien
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Yes you can...that's where all your memory has gone. Delete by opening the message folder, select all/delete. As far as you being told you have unread messages on start-up means there is a program in your windows/start-up folder that needs to be deleted, also.
You say you have clear temp....check the box by Large Mail, it should show how many MBs of memory has been used. Click on Tools, clean. This should wipe out the 35MB without you going to the windows/messaging folder to delete.
I wanted to store my messages on my Storage Card. So to do this i used SKtools. So far so good. After a soft reset no programs are working anymore.
After some research I found out that my messages indeed were stored @ Storage Card\my messages ...BUT the REAL Storage Card was renamed to Storage Card2. That was the reason programs are no longer working.
I really dont now why SKtools should create a new folder with teh same name. Anyone knows this problem?
It's not SKTools renaming your card, it's your HD2.
I posted a few things about this early on and got no interest or response - you are the first person other than me who has tried this (apparently!).
In the absense of a more definitive answer, I am assuming that the storage card is slow to mount on the HD2, so the system can't find it when initialising mail and so creates it's own 'Storage Card' folder. When the real card is mounted it is therefore named 'Storage Card2'.
As for what to do about it... Well, there is talk dating back a couple of years about delaying the loading of mail applications to give the card a chance to mount, but that dates back to WM5 and WM6 and relates to disabling the mail plugin on the Today Screen. With that in mind I tried checking the Startup Folder and removed the link to poutlook that was in there, but it made no difference.
It may just be another example of where HTC in trying to improve the interface have badly impacted what was a crucial piece of functiuonality for me - the ability to move my mail to the Storage Card. Given the issues being reported with storage space on the device, this is a major pain!
You can at least use the system software to send any attachments to the Storage Card - that works without issue.
Hey guys,
For some reason I believe the my email cache and downloaded messages are saved in the phone memory ?!
How can i change the storage location of my outlook mail ? as well as another email that I added (not outlook) ?
if you are wanting to free up space by moving attachments you can move it to the storage card.
Start->Email->Highlight the outlook account->menu->options
then select the storage tab and check the box so that the phone will use the storage card for all attachments
Thank you very very much
Move all to mem card
ZaZu90 said:
Hey guys,
For some reason I believe the my email cache and downloaded messages are saved in the phone memory ?!
How can i change the storage location of my outlook mail ? as well as another email that I added (not outlook) ?
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try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers
fadge said:
try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers
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What does it do though ?
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What does it do though ?
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Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers
fadge said:
try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers
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fadge said:
Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers
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Hello all,
has any of you tried this?
As I have seen some issues with a folder Storage Card2 issue, I'd like a feedback on the Leo/HD2 before trying it...
Basically, I have one mail of 10Mo on the main memory of my phone, stored in the Windows\messaging.
I have gone in the mail menu, options and storage " use Strage card".
I have the folder now on the storage card Inbox.mstxxxxxx.yyyyyy
but nothing in yet...
ie it did not move the existing messages to it yet...
How and when is it supposed to do it?
Sincerely,
vdelab
vdelab said:
Hello all,
has any of you tried this?
As I have seen some issues with a folder Storage Card2 issue, I'd like a feedback on the Leo/HD2 before trying it...
Basically, I have one mail of 10Mo on the main memory of my phone, stored in the Windows\messaging.
I have gone in the mail menu, options and storage " use Strage card".
I have the folder now on the storage card Inbox.mstxxxxxx.yyyyyy
but nothing in yet...
ie it did not move the existing messages to it yet...
How and when is it supposed to do it?
Sincerely,
vdelab
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+1 on this... would love to know
ctman said:
+1 on this... would love to know
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puahing it
fadge said:
Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers
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Ehum, I wouldnt be so sure. That cab adds/changes these two keys:
[HLKLM\System\Inbox\Settings]
AttachPath = "\Internal Storage\Messaging\Attachments"
PropertyPath = "\Internal Storage\Messaging"
Afaik, "Internal Storage" isnt mapped to the Storage Card in any way, at least not on the HD2? Has anyone tried this cab on the HD2? Might work if simply changed to "\Storage Card\Messaging\Attachments" and "\Storage Card\Messaging" respectively?
Use with caution
I would use this with extreme caution. All testing I have done on the HD2 (moving my mail files was one of the first things I tried when I got the device back in November) has suggested that the usual registry hack does not work and will merely create the Storage Card 2 issue. It's easy enough to sort out but it certainly won't move the mail files.
If anyone knows different and has got anything working in this respect please correct me but I believe the HD2 just won't play ball.
For what it's worth, the best guess I have at the problem is that the some element of the mail application is kicking off before the Storage Card is mounted
HTC HD2 Work Around - I assume
The reason y it keeps renaming to Storage Card2 because when you boot your phone, the HTC Home looks for your mails which should be technically in the actual memory card(storage card) once you've tweaked the reg. This happens while the phone is yet to detect the memory card. Due to the unavailabilty of the mem card, it creates a folder in root directorynamed 'storage card' then the phone detects the mem card and renames it to storage card 2 for obvious reasons.
Now the workaround, install all the four cabs for cache, email, etc... and then regedit "HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings" and edit
<parm name="PropertyPath" value="\Outlook\Mail" and "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments". The mail headers remain in phone memory, so that it can be detected on boot ups and avoids from renamings of storage cards, but the attachment stays in the mem card.
I edited the registry and set "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Inbox\Settings\PropertyPath" = "\Storage Card\email\". After the first soft reset, I had the "Storage Card2" problem, so I went into Resco Explorer and moved the "email" directory to "\Storage Card2\email\", then soft reset again. On the 2nd boot, Storage Card is back to being named as Storage Card, and now, all my emails are on the Storage Card instead of internal memory.
I have over 4000 emails with attachments downloaded now without any impact on internal storage space.
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I'm still getting the "Storage Card2" problem on a few soft resets... I guess the only way is to have the email text on the device and attachments in the Storage Card...
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The reason y it keeps renaming to Storage Card2 because when you boot your phone, the HTC Home looks for your mails which should be technically in the actual memory card(storage card) once you've tweaked the reg. This happens while the phone is yet to detect the memory card. Due to the unavailabilty of the mem card, it creates a folder in root directorynamed 'storage card' then the phone detects the mem card and renames it to storage card 2 for obvious reasons.
Now the workaround, install all the four cabs for cache, email, etc... and then regedit "HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings" and edit
<parm name="PropertyPath" value="\Outlook\Mail" and "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments". The mail headers remain in phone memory, so that it can be detected on boot ups and avoids from renamings of storage cards, but the attachment stays in the mem card.
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Please could someone advise the cabs information as above RED, thanks in advance.
@ben19
I don't believe your solution is any different to that which can be achieved by setting attachments to be stored on the card from within Pocket Outlook - which is also potentially safer as it doesn't involve a registry hack by the user.
@gregwee
I believe you will be stuck with the Storage card 2 issue until someone manages to crack the fact that the HD2 seems to load up email before it mounts the card. You are therefore correct in that having mail in main memory and attachments in the card is about the best we can do for now.
@apieceofcake
For the reasons above, I don't think any CAB will address the fundamental issue so my advice would be not to bother and simply set your attachments to be stored on the card
I would love to see a cab-file that could move all messages (not only headers) to my storage card as default.
Bit of a joke. its a Windows based product, need to get all my Outlook mail. Internal memory is now full. Have nothing else on the bloody phone except for 2 apps. Need help with this urgently as I can't put up with this much longer!
weareborg said:
Bit of a joke. its a Windows based product, need to get all my Outlook mail. Internal memory is now full. Have nothing else on the bloody phone except for 2 apps. Need help with this urgently as I can't put up with this much longer!
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FYI
pocket mechanic can relocate Outlook emails to your sd card, hope that helps.
Thanks S21s20! Have you confirmed it works for the HTC HD2?