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There was a post in another thread here that hinted at this ability, but since that thread was general and 17 pages long I figured a dedicated one was worthy. Anyway, is there any registry setting that will put all outlook messaging (all mail accounts) to the storage card.
Here is the post that had a setting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=234798#234798
I did what it said and it did make a file on /Storage Card/Inbox (where I said to put it) and it did not create a storage card2 like the post said... maybe because the new ROM starts the storage card before outlook now.
Thanks,
Edwin
Update: well I have figured out all future mail in the location. pretty cool, but what about the database it uses to reference these files. there must be a database somewhere that references each file that is each email (each email is a file in and of itself in the directory) and if there is a way to move these databases then we can reset at will and keep all of our data.
Update2: SMS and probably mms are not affected by this reg edit. any more to move these too?
I dunno if this will work but have you tried DBView?
www.magenic.com
it'll allow you to see what i think you want to see with the database stores
ethorn said:
There was a post in another thread here that hinted at this ability, but since that thread was general and 17 pages long I figured a dedicated one was worthy. Anyway, is there any registry setting that will put all outlook messaging (all mail accounts) to the storage card.
Here is the post that had a setting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=234798#234798
I did what it said and it did make a file on /Storage Card/Inbox (where I said to put it) and it did not create a storage card2 like the post said... maybe because the new ROM starts the storage card before outlook now.
Thanks,
Edwin
Update: well I have figured out all future mail in the location. pretty cool, but what about the database it uses to reference these files. there must be a database somewhere that references each file that is each email (each email is a file in and of itself in the directory) and if there is a way to move these databases then we can reset at will and keep all of our data.
Update2: SMS and probably mms are not affected by this reg edit. any more to move these too?
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Are you saying you found a way to fix it so the system doesn't create a folder called "Storage Card"? Also, who else thinks its wierd that having attachments to the storage card doesn't cause this issue, just the mail itself.
kristiandg said:
Are you saying you found a way to fix it so the system doesn't create a folder called "Storage Card"? Also, who else thinks its wierd that having attachments to the storage card doesn't cause this issue, just the mail itself.
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On 2.16.9.1 it either doesn't have the startup issue or (since I made changes to startup folder, ie deleted poutlook) I do not have the Storage Card and Storage Card2 problem. Probably the reason it never happened with the attachments is because it doesn't read the attachments in any way to build teh default today screen (which I also do not have anything but spb diary, spb power plus, and the default date/clock bar.
But I still wonder were the rest of the data is stored... I can see the SMS and contacts being in the database that is part of WM5, but MMS I can't see being there and can't find anywhere else they could be.
Hope somebody can give me a quick answer to this one.
I got up this morning to find that my MDA Pro is now reporting the "storage memory is critically low" error. Previous to this I'm *sure* it had at least 5Mb available. I've not installed anything (for weeks) so really can't understand it. What it has done in the meantime is synced my mail but all attachments are due to be soted on teh stoage card (but when checking the mail account settings there are currently 0k of attachments being stored).
I have soft-reset the device with no change in the storage space.
What I'd like to find is a utility that will tell me folder sizes so I can see what is being taken up where .... can't seem to find anything as yet that is free.
Any suggestions for software or any suggestions full stop?
mate,
I had a similar issue, check you haven't been inadvertently pressing the record button and making note recordings.
Go into notes and check it from there
Cheers
numanoids said:
mate,
I had a similar issue, check you haven't been inadvertently pressing the record button and making note recordings.
Go into notes and check it from there
Cheers
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That's what it was for me. Well, something very similar.
check the internet cache and the terminal server cache if you use it, these can grow quickly without realising. I have started immediately deleting cache content everytime I finish.
ie menu tools options, 2nd tab delete offline.
That is true. I gained 13MB by deleteing the offline cache files.
Yup I.E. Cache, plus, i also had my emails (mainly voicemail .wav file attachments) saving onto the main memory, it's in the messages folder under windows.
I deleted those, and moved my storage for my email attachments to my SD card.
Freed up like 15mb like this..
Great work
Many thanks guys, I have been searching for all sorts of methods to free up some memory. I had installed alot of programes on my XDA Exec and thought I have used up all my memory and was strugling to get some memory back. But this trick of deleting offline files from the Internet Explorer is just given me 13.77MB. Walla, many thanks again.
cache size
I think the problem is that the cache size is set to some ridiculously high number in the registry, but there's no way to change it. I tried many times to reduce it from the apparent 16MB setting (I think it was 16MB) in MemMaid, but after a soft reset, it goes back to 16MB. Anybody have a solution to this?
Get Memmaid and run it once in a while..
Just started getting "storage memory is critically low
I use Memmaid and got it to put my IE & Avantgo cache on SD card
gunigugu said:
Yup I.E. Cache, plus, i also had my emails (mainly voicemail .wav file attachments) saving onto the main memory, it's in the messages folder under windows.
I deleted those, and moved my storage for my email attachments to my SD card.
Freed up like 15mb like this..
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can you walk me through how this would work. Do I just cut and paste the folder. Will I still be able to access the attachments?
Hey guys,
For some reason I believe the my email cache and downloaded messages are saved in the phone memory ?!
How can i change the storage location of my outlook mail ? as well as another email that I added (not outlook) ?
if you are wanting to free up space by moving attachments you can move it to the storage card.
Start->Email->Highlight the outlook account->menu->options
then select the storage tab and check the box so that the phone will use the storage card for all attachments
Thank you very very much
Move all to mem card
ZaZu90 said:
Hey guys,
For some reason I believe the my email cache and downloaded messages are saved in the phone memory ?!
How can i change the storage location of my outlook mail ? as well as another email that I added (not outlook) ?
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try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers
fadge said:
try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers
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What does it do though ?
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What does it do though ?
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Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers
fadge said:
try this cab, I've used it on all my phones with no issues, BUT I dont have a HD2 as yet to confirm.
I have this installed as my first add on cab after a rom update.
Cheers
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fadge said:
Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers
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Thanks
Hello all,
has any of you tried this?
As I have seen some issues with a folder Storage Card2 issue, I'd like a feedback on the Leo/HD2 before trying it...
Basically, I have one mail of 10Mo on the main memory of my phone, stored in the Windows\messaging.
I have gone in the mail menu, options and storage " use Strage card".
I have the folder now on the storage card Inbox.mstxxxxxx.yyyyyy
but nothing in yet...
ie it did not move the existing messages to it yet...
How and when is it supposed to do it?
Sincerely,
vdelab
vdelab said:
Hello all,
has any of you tried this?
As I have seen some issues with a folder Storage Card2 issue, I'd like a feedback on the Leo/HD2 before trying it...
Basically, I have one mail of 10Mo on the main memory of my phone, stored in the Windows\messaging.
I have gone in the mail menu, options and storage " use Strage card".
I have the folder now on the storage card Inbox.mstxxxxxx.yyyyyy
but nothing in yet...
ie it did not move the existing messages to it yet...
How and when is it supposed to do it?
Sincerely,
vdelab
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+1 on this... would love to know
ctman said:
+1 on this... would love to know
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puahing it
fadge said:
Moves all the messages etc onto mem card ie off the main memory.
Save space when like me I have 3 email accounts 6000+emails, plus some attachments, and if anyone asks yes it does take a while to resync after a flash..
cheers
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Ehum, I wouldnt be so sure. That cab adds/changes these two keys:
[HLKLM\System\Inbox\Settings]
AttachPath = "\Internal Storage\Messaging\Attachments"
PropertyPath = "\Internal Storage\Messaging"
Afaik, "Internal Storage" isnt mapped to the Storage Card in any way, at least not on the HD2? Has anyone tried this cab on the HD2? Might work if simply changed to "\Storage Card\Messaging\Attachments" and "\Storage Card\Messaging" respectively?
Use with caution
I would use this with extreme caution. All testing I have done on the HD2 (moving my mail files was one of the first things I tried when I got the device back in November) has suggested that the usual registry hack does not work and will merely create the Storage Card 2 issue. It's easy enough to sort out but it certainly won't move the mail files.
If anyone knows different and has got anything working in this respect please correct me but I believe the HD2 just won't play ball.
For what it's worth, the best guess I have at the problem is that the some element of the mail application is kicking off before the Storage Card is mounted
HTC HD2 Work Around - I assume
The reason y it keeps renaming to Storage Card2 because when you boot your phone, the HTC Home looks for your mails which should be technically in the actual memory card(storage card) once you've tweaked the reg. This happens while the phone is yet to detect the memory card. Due to the unavailabilty of the mem card, it creates a folder in root directorynamed 'storage card' then the phone detects the mem card and renames it to storage card 2 for obvious reasons.
Now the workaround, install all the four cabs for cache, email, etc... and then regedit "HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings" and edit
<parm name="PropertyPath" value="\Outlook\Mail" and "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments". The mail headers remain in phone memory, so that it can be detected on boot ups and avoids from renamings of storage cards, but the attachment stays in the mem card.
I edited the registry and set "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Inbox\Settings\PropertyPath" = "\Storage Card\email\". After the first soft reset, I had the "Storage Card2" problem, so I went into Resco Explorer and moved the "email" directory to "\Storage Card2\email\", then soft reset again. On the 2nd boot, Storage Card is back to being named as Storage Card, and now, all my emails are on the Storage Card instead of internal memory.
I have over 4000 emails with attachments downloaded now without any impact on internal storage space.
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I'm still getting the "Storage Card2" problem on a few soft resets... I guess the only way is to have the email text on the device and attachments in the Storage Card...
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The reason y it keeps renaming to Storage Card2 because when you boot your phone, the HTC Home looks for your mails which should be technically in the actual memory card(storage card) once you've tweaked the reg. This happens while the phone is yet to detect the memory card. Due to the unavailabilty of the mem card, it creates a folder in root directorynamed 'storage card' then the phone detects the mem card and renames it to storage card 2 for obvious reasons.
Now the workaround, install all the four cabs for cache, email, etc... and then regedit "HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings" and edit
<parm name="PropertyPath" value="\Outlook\Mail" and "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments". The mail headers remain in phone memory, so that it can be detected on boot ups and avoids from renamings of storage cards, but the attachment stays in the mem card.
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Please could someone advise the cabs information as above RED, thanks in advance.
@ben19
I don't believe your solution is any different to that which can be achieved by setting attachments to be stored on the card from within Pocket Outlook - which is also potentially safer as it doesn't involve a registry hack by the user.
@gregwee
I believe you will be stuck with the Storage card 2 issue until someone manages to crack the fact that the HD2 seems to load up email before it mounts the card. You are therefore correct in that having mail in main memory and attachments in the card is about the best we can do for now.
@apieceofcake
For the reasons above, I don't think any CAB will address the fundamental issue so my advice would be not to bother and simply set your attachments to be stored on the card
I would love to see a cab-file that could move all messages (not only headers) to my storage card as default.
Bit of a joke. its a Windows based product, need to get all my Outlook mail. Internal memory is now full. Have nothing else on the bloody phone except for 2 apps. Need help with this urgently as I can't put up with this much longer!
weareborg said:
Bit of a joke. its a Windows based product, need to get all my Outlook mail. Internal memory is now full. Have nothing else on the bloody phone except for 2 apps. Need help with this urgently as I can't put up with this much longer!
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FYI
pocket mechanic can relocate Outlook emails to your sd card, hope that helps.
Thanks S21s20! Have you confirmed it works for the HTC HD2?
Ok,
My aim is to save all mail (not just attachments) on The SD Card for wm6 devices specifically htc hd2
forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-298646.html
been there done that, the "storage card2" problem is persistent (on this device) even if it remains "storage card" after 5-6 reboots; sooner or later it is renamed "storage card2" and a new "storage card" folder is created at the root of your device where all new mail starts to get stored... :-(
the issue really is that he sd card is recognized after the registry tweaks / are executed at boot up
So, how do we make sure that the OS to recognizes SD Card first before the mail starts at boot-up or teh registry tweaks are executed
i have tried all other things like (without success)
1. disable sense,
2. use windows default theme & remove messaging plugin from today's home screen
3. place a shortcut of SD card folder in teh start-up folder
4. deleted all other items in startup folder which load at boot
5. formatted the sd card as fat 16 / fat 32 with all possible sector sizes...
u name it i have done it .. does not work..
what we need are some serious registry tweaks... anyone interested ? any suggestions ?
One suggestion i have in mind (for someone who knows how to write cab / .exe files) is to create a small program to enable and disable the following registry tweak at boot-up and shut-down a shortcut of whoch can then be placed on the screen.
before shutdown - click to disable
after boot up - click to enable
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
add "PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
add "AttachPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments"="string"
Regards
I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.
given hosted exchange a thought?? (4 bucks a month or so)
profimail runs entirely from the SD card and is much better than the standard outlook email client.
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=profimail
Cheers David
trying profimail 3.26
Hello
I'm trying profimail 3.26 and results are not quite well.
application crash often, i found no integration with today or sense on any forum, and the design make me think to old DOS application.
Good if you need to have a backup of a mailbox on your pda but not very usefull for every day for me.
If some of you have a better idea, i'll take it.
Isnt't it possible with SK-Tools?
http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
after profimail
For those who want to use something like profimail to have a mail client on sdcard with sdcard storage see rather free softwares. I found nPOPuk but there is probably many other.
BUMP.
Please, we need a solution to this. We need to be able to successfully save email, not just email attachments, to the storage card, on the HD2, with the Storage Card 2 issue.
???
As said before profimail, or nPOPuk do that ! Not with outlook mobile but this work before a better solution
Supposedly this app does it, as per line 66 on the app details screen:
http://www.tweaks2k2.com
No guarantees that it'll work though, and you may have to hard reset if it breaks something! The software is ANCIENT, might I add. Even on the support forums, the last post was Aug 2009, and the last one before that was 2008 sometime!
To be honest, I would second the idea of getting an Exchange account. MUCH easier, sync the last two weeks or month or what have you, and just use the Search Server feature (built into Outlook Mobile) to get older things.
Don't work with hd2 with french language. a try more lol
The OP is spot on.
Any number of apps and manual tweaks that used to work on other devices do not work on the HD2 and never will unless we can work out and sort the root cause.
To the best of my knowledge the issue is that something is initialising the mail store before the storage card is mounted. Because this happens the device can't find its mail store on 'storage card' and so creates it own 'storage card' in device memory. When the real card is mounted it becomes 'storage card 2'.
Like the OP I have tried disabling everything I can think of that might be causing this behaviour but to no avail. I suspect there is some sort of pre-loader for Sense that runs very early on in the device start up to prepare the device for the Sense UI, but can't prove that. However until we find out what it is and how to delay it somewhat, we aren't going to get mail on the storage card.
I have no solutions, but I can confirm the scale of the challenge!
have tried Flexmail, profimail, npopuk,... (all good rated clients) nothing able to do the job correctly.
Always unable to download all mails and attachements or to see it correctly.
Just incredible to see that in 2010 with a phone like HD2.
Softwares like opera show pretty good html and is usefull, downloading file is not too hard. Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ? The first Outlook Express on PC do better than that and is now very old.
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I'm crying out for the same solution. My internal memory is critically low. I've tried pocket mechanic which didn't work. I'm down to plain text email with attachments on storage card and I'm still out of room. And yes, I need access to a large database of emails on the go. It was my primary reason for returning to winmo and getting the HD2 after a 6 year hiatus.
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Do you REALLY have that many e-mails? I just did a test, and switched my main account from "last 3 days" to "last 30 days", going from about 50 messages to 500 in 3 folders, and watched before-after memory usage, it only ate an extra 4.5MB. I'm set to HTML, 20kB and no attachments...
I mean that's just what one app takes, and less than the various caches... Don't know if you've already done it, but moving the Album cache to the card (this one can easily grow to 20-30MB) makes more sense...
rtydevine said:
Why is it so hard or impossible to find a good mail client ?
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Simply because the default one does it's job?
bad job
kilrah said:
Simply because the default one does it's job?
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Probably not for me. I need to have 2 boxes with about 2000 emails each and somme attachements. A total of 300 mb probably. Not so much for some Gb. I bought this phone for work and want use the sdcard for those emails. It's name is "windows phone" not ipod or psp or ixus. If i need that i know where to find it. A mail client (Outlook in this case) unable to store 300mb, does not it's job. Email means attachement else it is an SMS. Even when i store attachements on in the sdcard, the phone cry for memory. for information i use no music, no photos, no videos, no games.
Wow... how do you manage, sort, search, browse through 4000 e-mails on a phone???
OK, probably in that kind of use it might not do the job, but it's the first time I see someone needing it...
What you're after is an UMPC A phone's email is great for the couple of hours you're away from a proper computer, not really meant as a primary device...
Hi all, I can't believe no one found a solution on this issue so far, there are already about 5 different threads about this issue. Is no one out there having an Idea?
as I asked before: In SK-Tools, there is a menu-point: Tunup->System Memory and Speed->Messaging file\windows ---> to any other path, include the storage card.
Isn't this a part of the solution? You can download a trial-version with this point. Test it. possibly works on a HD2.
The solution is: GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT!
as far as I understand from other threads you can't get far with the SK-Tools solution because you end up having the "storage card2" issue.
@mazzarin: what do you mean with
"GET AN EXCHANGE ACCOUNT, SEARCH IS BUILT INTO THE DEFAULT CLIENT"
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Guys. I have a question about synchronizing an exchange mailbox. With my former phone, the Blackstone, I was used to set the registry tweaks for the path where the mails were stored on the storage card. But those tweaks don't work with the Leo because the storage card is initialized in a different way. So when those tweaks are enabled, my storage card becomes storage card2. Is there a way to make this work or make sure the mails are stored at the storage card in a, before specified, directory?
Do you mean
Inbox>Menu>Tools>Options> and at the bottom storage
and tick the box, (when available use this storage card to store the attachments)
??
Yeah, well partly this is what I was looking for. But it now only stores the attachments on the storage card not the mails. And I like to store the mails on that place as well.