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Would it be possible to only use medianet unlimited with Vonage, and dump cingulars over priced voice plan. I mean, being that Vonage operates soely on your internet connection, why wouldn't it work on medianet or Cingulars PDA plan, vica versa. Pitcure it, you get unlimited calls to US and Canada, all the goodies like call waiting, three way calling and caller I-D, all for $29.95. That beats out Cingulars 450 daytime, 5000 night and weekends, for $39.95 any day.
So, is it possible? And if not, why?
ntornics said:
Would it be possible to only use medianet unlimited with Vonage, and dump cingulars over priced voice plan. I mean, being that Vonage operates soely on your internet connection, why wouldn't it work on medianet or Cingulars PDA plan, vica versa. Pitcure it, you get unlimited calls to US and Canada, all the goodies like call waiting, three way calling and caller I-D, all for $29.95. That beats out Cingulars 450 daytime, 5000 night and weekends, for $39.95 any day.
So, is it possible? And if not, why?
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I don't think that it would work because I believe Vonage is VoIP which is kinda like skype and the GPRS network isn't fast enough for that. Feel free to correct me (anyone?) if i'm wrong though.
But what about edge, wifi, or 3G. Wouldn't those be fast enough?
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But what about edge, wifi, or 3G. Wouldn't those be fast enough?
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edge is the same as GPRS, its the cellular data network. Edge I don't believe is fast enough. Wifi is fast enough, but you have to overclock your phone in order for it to actually work well...or at all. Not sure what 3G is, so I can't comment on that.
It's theoretically possible. There's a version of SJPhone that works with Vonage and runs on the WM5. All you need is a soft phone on your vonage acct and SJPhone should be able to connect over GPRS or WiFi.
Sleuth255 said:
It's theoretically possible. There's a version of SJPhone that works with Vonage and runs on the WM5. All you need is a soft phone on your vonage acct and SJPhone should be able to connect over GPRS or WiFi.
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Can you elaborate on this a little more. What exactly is soft phone?
A softphone costs $10/mo on your Vonage account and works with software on your PC. The Vonage interface device isn't required. Every time you connect to the internet with your PC, no matter where in the world this is, your softphone number is available. SJPhone is software that runs on WM5 that allows you to connect to your softphone number on Vonage in the same way.
Alright I have the software SJPhone, I found the beta version for WM5. And I am sure that even before I install it that there will be some configuration required for vonage.....
I have gone and google'd..... These look like the setup instructions....
http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/31/how-to-use-a-pocket-pc-pda-as-a-wifiphone/
Cingular is one step ahead of you... Kind of. There was an article about 2 weeks ago and cingular said they don't mind that people are using VOIP on their network. But Edge isn't fast enough. I have Skype on my device and running it via Edge is worthless, so get yourself a Hermes adn move to a 3g(umts) city and Voila, your golden!
I just got back from houston and they're selling the HTC TyTn for $1,099.99. You can get it on ebay for $779.99 with 29.99 shipping from Cali.
I have activated a vonage softphone but I am having trouble with the configuration. If anyone had some light to shed on the subject that would be great. The guide I am looking at looks like it is just about to turn 2 years old.
IT WORKS!!!!!!!! well I initialized a call I can't really test it though cuz the wife is sleeping and if I make the phone ring too much she'll get peeved. The above configuration is good, just don't bother with the proxy stuff just put the domain in..... i followed their screens just a little too well.
what connection u using it on?
The only issue with SJPhone I saw was, like skype, it would be "speakerphone only". I'm guessing GPRS would be fine for the connection if you use a low speed audio codec.
Well I lied i made 1 phone call and that was it it doesn't work now I don't know what i did
Is this any help?
SJLabs: Vonage on Pocket PC thread
Very helpful now I no longer recieve the "Nat/Firewall" Error. Thanks for the info. I will do more testing during the day tommorow and I will post my results. I am currently using a T-Mobile MDA with the new OEM firmware update.
I talked with the wife for 45 mins while using wifi, I used the headset supplied with the phone because I have not figured out how to incorporate my Moto H700 with it, but otherwise it was great. The edge at my house is only so-so, therefore I will say that using this with edge so far has been impossible. When I go to work tommorow I will let you know if it works better where I know there is 100% edge, and when I am not on the fringe of a network.
Theory into practice it would seem. Nicely done matrix849! I'd always wanted to try this but never really had the time to spare.
Seems as though the tytn would be the best way to really test if this would be absolutely possible. I mean with its 3G technology and all.
fone_fanatic said:
Cingular is one step ahead of you... Kind of. There was an article about 2 weeks ago and cingular said they don't mind that people are using VOIP on their network. But Edge isn't fast enough. I have Skype on my device and running it via Edge is worthless, so get yourself a Hermes adn move to a 3g(umts) city and Voila, your golden!
I just got back from houston and they're selling the HTC TyTn for $1,099.99. You can get it on ebay for $779.99 with 29.99 shipping from Cali.
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Hi guys,
I want to use my HTC Wizard to call out on the "normal" or DSL phone line when I am at home. This beacause all phone calls to all national non mobile numbers are free.
My PC is connected to the DSL Modem (ZYXEL P-2602HW-D1A) and with a modem connected to the phone out put of the modem and to the normal analog line.
Is there any one who has experience with this?
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Hi guys,
I want to use my HTC Wizard to call out on the "normal" or DSL phone line when I am at home. This beacause all phone calls to all national non mobile numbers are free.
My PC is connected to the DSL Modem (ZYXEL P-2602HW-D1A) and with a modem connected to the phone out put of the modem and to the normal analog line.
Is there any one who has experience with this?
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The answer is likely to not be as easy as you expect, although it may not be that hard.
Your modem may or may not work, when you do voice over a modem the modem needs to know this and not demand a carrier tone and other things that signal a data connection. Some modems are known to work in this capacity others are known to work very poorly (lots of echo) and others are known to not work at all. The majority of modems are not known whether or not they will work at all.
In short the easiest way to accomplish this task is to send data from your phone VoIP to your PC. There are free clients out there such as sjphone from sjlabs.com. You will likely want a headset on your phone as most dont use the same speaker as a regular phone call but instead the speakerphone and echo cancelation doesnt work well (the remote side will hear echo without headphones).
Now that your phone is taken care of you need something on the other side. Here you have choices. If you have a compatible modem you can use that as an FXO card with software like asterisk.org and soon freeswitch.org. If you do not have a compatible card, or do not wish to run VoIP software on your PC you can get an ATA that has an FXO port and lets you route calls to/from it. Grandstream.com has some, the HT486 comes to mind. I believe the linksys pap2 will also do this. Ebay may be your friend in locating a fairly cheap one, although they arent that expensive - and you are doing this to save money so depending on the number of calls you make it may pay for itself soon
Once you have this set up, you can actually choose to call people via your mobile plan or landline or even an internet based telephone company. Depending on how well you configure everything, you could in theory have it use all of those things, and you can even route calls from those services to your phone (ie get phone numers all over the world and answer them on your mda when you have internet).
All your mda needs is wifi/usb/gprs. And for those providers that block VoIP on gprs shame on you (and they generally dont block vpn traffic or even know what the contents of that are
Port restricted Cone NAT
Thanks for your support.
The WIFI way with a direct connetion to my Modem will do for now, but I have got the following problem there.
The error that is displayed is the following:
NAT/Firewall: Port Restricted Cone NAT
The settings which I have entered are the same as in my Modem:
Zyxel: P-2602HW-D1A
Provider Tiscali
Anybody who knows how to solve this or who has experience with VOIP provided by Tiscali or other ISP using your HTC Wizard
Hello all,
This is my first post here...I have a TYTN, and am looking at ways to call another tytn phone(or any wm6 actually) through gprs, so to use the charge per meg and not the phones charge per minute. Ive tried with Fring and skype mobile, both give terrible delays. Is this at all possible through GPRS/EDGE? (I dont enable 3G cos local provider having issues atm).
Is there no specific application for two WM6 phones to communicate using GPRS? Can anyone recommend any other applications to test?
Thanks in advance,
Sorry if this has been asked before, but I been looking and didnt find anything..
apocza said:
Hello all,
Is this at all possible through GPRS/EDGE? (I dont enable 3G cos local provider having issues atm).
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Read it from Skype.
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/tipsandtricks.html
Yes, you do need 3G for Internet calling. However, you can always turn to Wifi for Internet calling. Regardless you have WM5 or WM6, GPRS/EDGE just doesn't have enough bandwidth for VoIP.
CameoTabby said:
Read it from Skype.
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/tipsandtricks.html
...., GPRS/EDGE just doesn't have enough bandwidth for VoIP.
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EDGE has plenty of bandwith for VoIP, in particular if you use GSM codec. Just the latency isn't great, but it will do.
So if Skype doesn't work, consider SIP.
gprs dont connect 2 phones
it's only a internet connection
it's transparent to both devices if
they talk to a phone or a pc
the only way 2 phones maybe can talk data with eachother is the
old data gsm which is limited to 9600Kboud which is much much slower then even gprs
SIP internet calling etc
Can someone help me please. You know the internet calling option on WM6, how for the love of money do you use it. I got skype which i use but i got no idea what this internt calling option is for because i dont know how to use it. HELPPPPPP PLEASEEEEEe
Internet calling is for using witha SIP server such as FWD or an inhouse Asterik/LCS box.
Hello all,
If Orange Disconnections team get back up and running this afternoon, I am going to be canceling my Orange contract and it is looking like 3 has the best SIM only plan for me.
My phone is already unlocked, de-branded vi flashing ROM's.
One thing that enhances the draw for me on 3 is the free Skype to Skype calls. I am wondering whether anyone here has tried it and got it set up correctly (Skype and the free calls via 3)
Reading through the 3 help files makes it sound impossible at the moment and a simple search on the Blackstone forum revealed no new information.
Hopefully someone here can enlighten me.
what is the difference between that and free skype to skype calls on wifi?
do they detect it's a skype call over gprs and don't charge you?
or do you have flatrate data and they don't block the ports used by skype ?
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what is the difference between that and free skype to skype calls on wifi?
do they detect it's a skype call over gprs and don't charge you?
or do you have flatrate data and they don't block the ports used by skype ?
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From the stuff I have read on the 3 website, they use the data connection over 3G/HDPSA and do not charge you for it when used with Skype calls.
They also mention that you are required to use their own Skype program, not one downloaded from the Skype website. Perhaps that helps with their system.
This is from the 3 website:
"If you put a 3 SIM card into a 3G* mobile from another network you can still make calls, send messages and access the internet, but you can't access Skype.
We’re working hard to fix this. Our aim is that over the next few months customers will be able to insert their 3 SIM card into any popular unlocked 3G mobile and automatically get the right settings for the 3 network. Plus you’ll also receive a link to download the correct version of Skype on 3 – so you can have free Skype-to-Skype minutes forever.
It is important to note that the Skype mobile client must be the version which comes directly from 3 (rather than any other source) in order to be able to get free Skype-to-Skype calls forever."
I am not sure whether this means if I would need to obtain the 3 Skype somehow and use that or some other way.
It is not a huge issue for me. The 3 SIM only deal is the best going even without the free Skype to Skype.
But... it would be nice. I am looking to see if anyone has experience of switching to 3 with a non-3 phone and using their free Skype to Skype service.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528729
Use the search
Ikkari said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528729
Use the search
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Ooohhh, I've just passed through my cancellation with Orange and will be getting my PAC in a few days.
I did use the search... but on this forum only. Trust me to miss such a recent post outside of this one (I don't scoot around too much)
Thanks!
Ikkari said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528729
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my first phone was an alcatel , the last an blackstone
what a coincidence
Hello guys! I have been trying to make internet calls with my new HTC HD2, and so far I have not managed to make it work properly.
Actually after testing PortSip I almost got it, but the problem I have with this software is that my voice is not being heard at all/clear enough. I can hear the person I'm calling very well, without delays, but they can not hear me. I tried using BT headset, normal headset, and without headsets for the same result, not being heard.
Could it be that the microphone is set too low? is there any way to increase it?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thnx.
I use PortSip without any such problem....
Try fring as an alternate solution...may work for you...
Are you connecting to your own VOIP server? If so, make sure that the correct ports are open.
I had the same problem with portsip. I find Agephone to work nicely, only problem with it not being able to direct sound to the earpiece so you will need some software that does that instead.
After a lot of testing, I'm still in the same situation. I'd be great to make voip calls to work. I am certain there's some settings in windows mobile (codecs maybe) that my voip provider don't like, and therefore calls drop.
My voip provider is Saunalahti (Finland) which actually rents the gsm network from Elisa.
I am trying making calls from two different voip accounts, calling other voip numbers and normal gsm numbers. I am using one HD2, one TYTN and a Softphone that Saunalahti offers.
The only way that the calls work is calling from the softphone in the PC, no problem there. I have audio both ways and calls do not drop.
If I call from:
wm to PC, call drops (lasts 2 sec)
wm to wm, call drops (lasts 2 sec)
wm to gsm, connects but the other person can not hear me
One wm is using 3G and the other is using WIFI. port 5060 is open in the registry.
Like a said earlier, I have tried different programs, but it's the same scenario.
Any idea on what the problem actually is? thnx i nadcance.
Hi guys,
I am interested in VoIP calling with my HD2. I don't know much about this, and I would like to be able to use it when I travel to Mexico next month. I know that Blackberry's have UMA technology or soemthing like that to make WiFi calling for free back to the states. Will this PortGo/PortSip program do the same thing if I use the free version, or buy the Professional version?
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gorelshv said:
i had the same problem with portsip. I find agephone to work nicely, only problem with it not being able to direct sound to the earpiece so you will need some software that does that instead.
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