Hello all,
If Orange Disconnections team get back up and running this afternoon, I am going to be canceling my Orange contract and it is looking like 3 has the best SIM only plan for me.
My phone is already unlocked, de-branded vi flashing ROM's.
One thing that enhances the draw for me on 3 is the free Skype to Skype calls. I am wondering whether anyone here has tried it and got it set up correctly (Skype and the free calls via 3)
Reading through the 3 help files makes it sound impossible at the moment and a simple search on the Blackstone forum revealed no new information.
Hopefully someone here can enlighten me.
what is the difference between that and free skype to skype calls on wifi?
do they detect it's a skype call over gprs and don't charge you?
or do you have flatrate data and they don't block the ports used by skype ?
Rudegar said:
what is the difference between that and free skype to skype calls on wifi?
do they detect it's a skype call over gprs and don't charge you?
or do you have flatrate data and they don't block the ports used by skype ?
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From the stuff I have read on the 3 website, they use the data connection over 3G/HDPSA and do not charge you for it when used with Skype calls.
They also mention that you are required to use their own Skype program, not one downloaded from the Skype website. Perhaps that helps with their system.
This is from the 3 website:
"If you put a 3 SIM card into a 3G* mobile from another network you can still make calls, send messages and access the internet, but you can't access Skype.
We’re working hard to fix this. Our aim is that over the next few months customers will be able to insert their 3 SIM card into any popular unlocked 3G mobile and automatically get the right settings for the 3 network. Plus you’ll also receive a link to download the correct version of Skype on 3 – so you can have free Skype-to-Skype minutes forever.
It is important to note that the Skype mobile client must be the version which comes directly from 3 (rather than any other source) in order to be able to get free Skype-to-Skype calls forever."
I am not sure whether this means if I would need to obtain the 3 Skype somehow and use that or some other way.
It is not a huge issue for me. The 3 SIM only deal is the best going even without the free Skype to Skype.
But... it would be nice. I am looking to see if anyone has experience of switching to 3 with a non-3 phone and using their free Skype to Skype service.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528729
Use the search
Ikkari said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528729
Use the search
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Ooohhh, I've just passed through my cancellation with Orange and will be getting my PAC in a few days.
I did use the search... but on this forum only. Trust me to miss such a recent post outside of this one (I don't scoot around too much)
Thanks!
Ikkari said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528729
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my first phone was an alcatel , the last an blackstone
what a coincidence
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Version 2.2 (beta) of Skype for Pocket PC is now available. Here.
Does it resolve the stupid, playing the audio through the speakerphone instead of the handset?
and, does it let us use the video camera to make viedo calls on skype?
From Skype forums! said:
On 12th December we have launched Skype 2.2 Beta for Windows Mobile devices. It support now Smartphone’s and has enhanced support for Pocket PC devices.
Now available for Smartphone’s powered by Windows Mobile software, as well as Pocket PCs, including those using lower-power processors, the latest incarnation of Skype software further extends Skype use beyond desktop or notebook computers.
Key features and benefits in Skype 2.2 for Windows Mobile beta include:
* NEW: Support for Windows Mobile smartphones and more Pocket PC devices;
* NEW: Enhanced today/home screen: presence status, event notification (missed calls, new chat messages and voicemails);
* NEW: Proxy support: Supports regular HTTP or HTTPS proxies, and authenticating HTTPS/SSL and SOCKS5 proxies
* Skype calling features: Free Skype-to-Skype calls, support for SkypeOut, SkypeIn™, voicemail and call forwarding;
* User-friendly look and feel: As easy and familiar as using Skype on a computer;
* One-click Skype access: A Skype icon on the home screen lets users view and call contacts easily;
* Multi-person chat: Users can have multichat sessions using animated emoticons. When mobile users are offline, chat messages will automatically update the next time user logs in;
* Enhanced contact list: Users can see their contacts avatars and mood messages;
* Profile personalization: Users can take a picture with the camera on their mobile device and immediately update their profile.
You can download it here, browse release notes and give us feedback on Developer Zone or browse our Windows Mobile 2.2 Beta forum.
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Took it from skype forums, announcement.
From Skype Forums! said:
Skype for windows Mobile 2.2.0.18 known issues:
* If your device is connected to internet via Activesync, Skype may not login. Workaround is that you first open Internet Explorer in your Windows mobile device and then run Skype. Althought you will be connected to Skype network, it is not possible to place calls via ActiveSync.
* On PocketPC phone editions audio comes out from loudspeaker, it is not transferred to phone speaker. To avoid using loudspeaker, we suggest you to use wired headset. This will also give you better overall sound quality in Skype calls.
* In many cases if you have bluetooth headset connected to Windows mobile device, it is not possible to use it for Skype calls. In most cases you will not hear anything, or most of the text is cut off.
* In case you participate in many multichats and you log into Skype on mobile devices, multichat synchronization might freeze your device for several minutes. Similar freeze might also occur when you have lot of Contacts in your Contacts list (more than 50). To avoid this we suggest you to have separate Skype account for mobile devices where you have only most important contacts.
* On some occasions SkypeIn calls doesn't get through to Windows mobile devices. In most cases it helps if you quit Skype and start it again. If it is continuous problem for you, please report it to our customer support.
* When you are logged into Skype with same username on different platforms, some users in your Contacts list might have different statuses displayed on different platforms. Usually PC has correct information in these cases.
* Chat privacy settings are not working on some cases. If you do not allow chats from non-contacts or from users who are not authorized, their chats might still get through to you.
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This too ^^
darkjedi said:
Does it resolve the stupid, playing the audio through the speakerphone instead of the handset?
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sadly, it's still doing this stupid thing.... and my skype out credit does not show up correctly with this beta version....
I just downloaded skype and installed it, but it seems to crash if I try to make voice calls over the HDSPA network.
I can't find any info on this, does voice have to go over WiFi?
rtao said:
sadly, it's still doing this stupid thing.... and my skype out credit does not show up correctly with this beta version....
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Does anyone know if it's even possible for an app to take control of the phone speaker? In other words, is the phone speaker somehow dedicated to the phone components of the device?
I find the speaker thing extremely ridiculous
try using the bundled headset... else there is a way to patch the voice to a bluetooth headset by changing a reg key. Note that doing this will prevent the headset button to initiate voice calls (it will be used to turn Bluetooth on the headset on/off). You can still pickup and hangup calls using it.
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I find the speaker thing extremely ridiculous
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I believe the reason for this is because you can still actively recieve normal calls whilst using skype. What would happen if both the phone and skype are fighting for that speaker??? I think you would have a soft reset on your hands.
When using skype i use the bundled headset that was mentioned in an earlier post.
S.K.
Skype is nice when you have a flat fee/Wifi connections.. else, I tried 1 minute once, 800KB traffic :|
Skypeout Dialling
Hi,
Is anyone else aware of a solution for the lack of a "+" key on the Skypeout dialling skin?
For those that have not tried it, you can call non-skype numbers using Skype, and pay either a flat annual fee or pay as you go credits. Anyhow, Skype requires a "+" entered in front of the phone number. However, there is no "+" key on the dialling skin; you have to access your device keyboard for that. This is inconvenient and seems to me to be a very easy fix - get rid of the need for the "+" or add the key to the dialler...
Thanks,
MM
Is it not just a long press on zero (0) key?
Mike
mikechannon said:
Is it not just a long press on zero (0) key?
Mike
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Ouch! (That was me hittin myself over the back of the head...) Talk about missing the obvious.
Thanks Mike.
Mad Medik said:
Ouch! (That was me hittin myself over the back of the head...) Talk about missing the obvious.
Thanks Mike.
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Well I have to say it's not that obvious. I remember spending a while working that one out sometime back as like you it seemed crazy that there was no obvious key.
Mike
I have a new found interest in Skype. I'm currently with T-Mobile and I have been thinking of switching to Cingular/ATT for the 3G data. I was wondering if Skype works flawlessly with Cingular's 3G HSDPA network, or if it works only over WiFi? If it does, I'll head over to cingular right now and sign up. I was going to wait until they get the replacement for the 8525, but that doesn't seem like it'll happen anytime soon. Any help on this is greatly appreciated.
Hi Kman79,
I can't answer specifically about Cingular At&T, but I can tell you that the Roger's AT&T network in Canada uses the same GSM 3G protocol and frequency range. I have used an 8525 with WM5 and WM6 and used Skype with no problems where I had a moderate or better 3G signal. I tried it with and EDGE signal and it was too choppy to make it usable IMHO.
MM
Mad Medik said:
Hi Kman79,
I can't answer specifically about Cingular At&T, but I can tell you that the Roger's AT&T network in Canada uses the same GSM 3G protocol and frequency range. I have used an 8525 with WM5 and WM6 and used Skype with no problems where I had a moderate or better 3G signal. I tried it with and EDGE signal and it was too choppy to make it usable IMHO.
MM
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I appreciate the reply. I was just in Edmonton, Canada about a month ago, and I was using Roger's network with no problem with my Softbank phone. I had no issues in terms of making or receiving calls, I would assume it would be the same with their 3G data, I appreciate the response. I'll most likely be switching to Cingular soon, I'm out of contract with Tmobile and I was already considering the switch anyways.
Edmonton was a nice change of pace from Houston, I had a great time and people were very friendly. Beautiful country by the way, it was the first time I actually seen snow, yes I was bread in the Houston heat for most of my life.
It's good to hear my western friends were hospitable. Ottawa and Washington have had a few differences over the past decade, so it's always good to hear that it hasn't affected the general public's sence of decency and good-will. Glad you had the chance to see the snow too, although, most of us are usually happy to see it go in March... I've had the pleasure of visiting a number of the States, including some in the south, but haven't had the pleasure of visiting the Lone Star State as yet but hopefully I'll get there someday to see y'all.
Almost forgot. Take care, eh...
I just got an 8525 and want to enable the data only feature via att
Has any one used skype via the 3g net. and does anyone know how may kbytes a typical 10 minute call consumes from the alloted 20 meg >>
Great forum !!
Pogo:
Skype
i,m not sure how much it uses but if you got a 8525 you need a unlimited data plan with that phone cause you are going to use that 20MB up in about 3days, i,m on mine more them my own computer, and yes skype is great in 3G but the new skype with the update sucks..
Yes, don't use the latest version of Skype it has a problem with the Hermes. You need the older beta version. You can download it here somewhere - pushed for time so can't do it for you but searching should find it.
Also, you can of course use it over wifi, that obviously is outwith any data plan you may have.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Yes, don't use the latest version of Skype it has a problem with the Hermes. You need the older beta version. You can download it here somewhere - pushed for time so can't do it for you but searching should find it.
Also, you can of course use it over wifi, that obviously is outwith any data plan you may have.
Mike
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One thing to keep in mind is that technically, the use of VoIP is against the service terms according to AT&T/Cingular. But for that matter, so is streaming audio, video, games, uploading files, or anything outside of email, web browsing, or corporate network access.
And before people get all up in a tizzy about it, I didn't make the rules, nor agree with them. This came up on the AT&T help forums and someone pointed me to the AT&T TOS document. Basically, unless the "content" is specifically formatted for AT&T devices or meets the "AT&T content standards" it is forbidden.
Those content standards are nowhere to be found on the internet or on the AT&T website, so it's an exercise to the reader to determine what the hell they're talking about.
So I would caution against excessive use of VoIP or leaving TCPMP connected to a stream for 8 hours straight.
But I still use a princely amount of data in a month for general stuff and it's never been an issue. I'm talking on the order of a few gigs per month of transfer. I don't use Skype via 3G.
FYI, this is the CAB you want for use on the 8525:
SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab
I have installed that version, and it seems to work for test calls. I don't know anyone that uses Skype. I don't have any use for it beyond curiosity. I know it installs and runs fine, however.
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EDIT: The Skype file Mike is referring to is found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331669
It's a rapidshare link.
Many Thanks.
Got my new phone, unlocked and upgrade via your tools.
I know that there is a tool released that allows skype to work through the earpiece and not the speakerphone on the wizard. I just had a couple of questions related to that before I purchase a wizard.
If you leave the tool running, will you be able to talk through the earpiece on incoming calls?
Does skype perform well on the wizard? Compared to landlines, cell phones?
Will skype work on EDGE?
Can you use a prepaid SIM on an unlocked Wizard?
My goal is to use the unlimited data prepaid plan ($20/mo.) and skype (around $60 a year paid in advance) to have an unlimited data/talk plan on a wizard. Any thoughts, suggestions? Thanks.
I can answer what I know for yah.
Does Skype work well on the Wizard?-Yes, IF you overclock your Wizard to 247MHZ or higher, the stock 200 MHZ simply will not run Skype well enough to use. Overclocking is easy, and is fine if kept under 260MHZ.
Will Skype work on EDGE?-Again yes. The installer and documentation says that WiFi or 3G is required, but that is simply not true. It will take a few moments to load your contacts and connect to the Skype network, but calls will work fine.
Can you use a prepaid SIM in the Wizard?-Yes, you Lokiwiz or the Wizard Service Tool to SIM and CID unlock your Wizard once you buy it.
I cannot comment on the other stuff, but it does indeed work, and works well.
Thanks for the response. You answered most all of the critical questions for me. I know a headset can correct the others, so if all else fails I can just get one of those.
I'm running skype on default clock speed, and it works fine. Little slower, but not much, usable. Not sure how. Rom is the one Zoki made, i think is NBD, or something like that, i both it like that from him and works great
I prefer Fring.com u can use msn, skype, icq, google talk, sip.
If u buy a phone number with skype u can receive calls too
And u have add-ons too, like facebook, fringme chat, gmail notifier, orkut, vtap videos, yandex.mail.
Hope u guys like it!
btw works with almost all phones
I emailed Google prior to me purchasing the Nexus One ... explaining I will never use SIM Card ... and they
replied saying to me it will work with no SIM Card without any problems .. so I purchased it.... and still I can
not figure out how to make any international calls. I just want to use the Nexus One in Hotels with Wifi for
my calling needs. I have always used skype on my Iphone for the same service, however I now have the
Nexus One.... Now my issue is ... I cannot make any calls on the Nexus One without a SIM Card ... and this
makes me mad ... I just want to chat and call using the Wifi device ...
Several people told me to install SIPDroid, Fring (which I could never get it to make a call) and even today
i was advised by Nexus One Customer Support to install a Google program from Gizmo5 called GUAVA..
which would not install on the Nexus One ...and when I call Google for help .... no help is offered .. not even
on any official website ..... just for users around the world... with ALL different issues that don't related to
my own ... Very Frustrating since I like using GV for my International calling but it seems (for the moment) I
can only use GV with my computer and a headset ... why do I need the Nexus One then if I can't make a call
without a SIM?
Anyways.... (frustrations set-aside now) .... Can anyone give me OFFICIAL information about HOW I CAN
USE MY NEXUS ONE TO MAKE / RECEIVE TELEPHONE CALLS WITHOUT ANY INSTALLED SIM CARD JUST
USING A WI-FI CONNECTION?
I await to hear back from Google , Google Voice or Nexus One expert person
Thanks
Take this for what it is worth, but someone mentioned some program Nimbuzz having pretty decent Skype integration for making voice calls. This is ENTIRELY hearsay, and i have absolutely never used nimbuzz or this feature. It could be worth looking into though until you find a more permanent solution via google voice.
Good luck.
Hey, I know you need to be in the verizon network to be able to use skype, but is there any way to make my phone think it's in the vzw network when I'm not hooked up to a tower?
I'm going outside the country for about a year, and will not have a cellphone, but will have access to wifi. I used a windows mobile phone last time with no issues. I ditched it a while ago tho, any way this can work?
I'm just thinking out loud but if you put the phone in airplane mode and connected to wifi you could test it w/o your vzw connection, just a thought.
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I think airplane mode removes all data connection so wifi probably won't work :/
Sorry, but you're out of luck VZW purposefully crippled the Skype app so that it requires a connection to their network to use, and uses your plan's minutes in the process. Which basically makes it useless—how many people out there are really calling Skype contacts when they could be calling them on the phone instead??
You may have some luck with Nimbuzz; it's supposed to be compatible with Skype, although you never know how long that capability will stay in the app. Fring used to work with Skype, but no longer...
Penguissimo said:
Sorry, but you're out of luck VZW purposefully crippled the Skype app so that it requires a connection to their network to use, and uses your plan's minutes in the process. Which basically makes it useless—how many people out there are really calling Skype contacts when they could be calling them on the phone instead??
You may have some luck with Nimbuzz; it's supposed to be compatible with Skype, although you never know how long that capability will stay in the app. Fring used to work with Skype, but no longer...
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Thanks for the info. I almost forgot about nimbuzz. Works with only wifi enabled on skype.
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You may have some luck with Nimbuzz; it's supposed to be compatible with Skype, although you never know how long that capability will stay in the app. Fring used to work with Skype, but no longer...
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I can attest to this. I used Skype (via Nimbuzz) over WiFi while I was in Spain two weeks ago. I'm surprised that it's still available within the app, considering Fring removed it. One thing I did notice was that Skype is no longer mentioned in the app description but is definitely on there as an account.
I think just recently Skype added WiFi capability. Might want to check into that.
Also, you may want to try SipDroid in combination with some cheap/free VoIP service.
SipGate/Gizmo5, etc. If you can't find a Free one that fits, look into Vitelity.net as a pretty good low cost provider.
Skype enabled WiFi for presence/text ONLY. Calls via Skype still require 3G.
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