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Voice dialing from bluetooth works fine while my K-Jam is on, but when it goes into standby mode it doesnt work. I press the button on the headset and I get the headset beep indicating it has connected, but I never hear the speed dail beep. If I bring the K-Jam out of standby mode, I can see the speed dial program is on teh screen, but it seems stuck. Maybe any ideas?
Thanks, John
All Wizards suffer from this; currently no known way around it, hopefully a update will cure this issue or someone will find a way.
A little more digging and I have seen where others have tried to find a work around. Here is what I am doing for now. I am turning off automatic standby and using the "device lock" to keep buttons from accidentally being pushed instead of putting it in standby by pushing the power button. I am not sure what the battery usage will be now, but I will test it for awhile and see. By the way, does anyone know how I can assign one of the hard buttons to device lock? Is there an exe somewhere or can someone point me to a registry entry for this?
Thanks
haven't found keylock yet, but found "power off"
may create a short cut in programs?
My Qtek does not have this problem.
I'm using voicedial from my bluetooth headset. It works perfect even when the phone is in standby mode! It wakes up and makes the call perfectly!! I have a Qtek 9100 and a SonyEricsson HBH-662.
same here with my dopod 838 and HBH-662 it seems to work nicely even if the device is in standby. Is this because of the headset?
::adit
No problem here either...
Dutch MDA Vario + HBH-662 headset - works like a charm standby or not.
By the way... why bother installing MS Voice when the Wizard comes with it's own voice dialing utility?
lisa1982 said:
By the way... why bother installing MS Voice when the Wizard comes with it's own voice dialing utility?
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Probably because MS Voice Command is based on speaker independent recognition. So, you don't record a voice tag for the few contacts you dial most often, you just say 'call <contact> at|on mobile|home|work' and it will try and recognise the contact from your entire list.
Also pretty cool for casually pressing the button and asking 'what appointments do I have today' and having the details and locations read out to you...
Dox
lisa1982
OEM voicedial does not allow you to dial by digits 5-5-5-1-2-3-4 etc OEM voice dial is limited to voice tags MS Voice Command allows you to dial any contact in you're list also the ability of MS VC to announce upcoming appointments etc.
There are more these are only a few examples.
Can you guys that are able to make BT calls from standbye mode post what rom etc you have installed?
Thanks, John
Question for all you guys with the SE HBH-662 headsets. Does the caller ID on the Headset work? Meaning when you get an incoming call does it scroll the phone number only or does it display the name of the contact (if you have them in your contacts)? And how is the battery life of the headset ? I've got a Motorola HS850 which I love but I'm having the same problem with voice dialling from Standby and am willing to buy another headset if it works.
Thanks.
Hi firas,
Only the number is displayed in a scrolling fashion and it has a good battery life. Highly recommended
I have the HBH-600 but dont think it would work any different with another headset. My K-Jam receives the signal, and beeps, but seems to get stuck after that. When I take it out of standbye after trying it, I see the voice app is open, but seems to be stuck. If another headset will fix the problem, I would gladly buy it.
John
techspy
My HBH-660 does the same thing as your's I may go ahead and get the HBH-662 and try it thogh, if it will fix the issue that would be great.
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All Wizards suffer from this; currently no known way around it, hopefully a update will cure this issue or someone will find a way.
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One method that does work is to use the "redial" function on your headset. On my HS850 it's press and hold the call button. The Wizard _will_ wake up and start dialling your last used number. Just tap the headset button again to cancel the call, and you're ready to use Voicedail.
Initiating a redial then cancelling it to get the phone to wake up is a work around but not a fix. I hope they resolve this or if the HBH-662 does work I wonder what the difference is?
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Initiating a redial then cancelling it to get the phone to wake up is a work around but not a fix.
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Thanks for your constructive input and for stating the obvious :roll: I was simply correcting your statement that there is "currently no known way around it" which is not true. All it takes is two extra button presses.
Tried my new Wizard last night with my old Plantronics M3000 bluethooth headset, Device was in stanby and when i pressed the button on the headst it woke up and voice dailed no problems.
I am using the standard T- Mobile roms with the MDA Vario as it is only a day old.
Hope this helps
I changed the path to voice command in the registry (HKLM/Software/OEM/VoiceCommand/ Path=\Program Files\VoiceCommand\voicecmd.exe), but my Cardo Scala-500 headset still does not activate Voice Command. I searched extensively, was not able to find how to make them talk to each other. Any ideas? Anybody else using MDA+Scala-500 combination with Voice Command successfully? I am on the last official T-mobile ROM.
I don't know if it is anything related. When I first paired my Wizard with a Motorola Bluetooth, the pairing process says it is hands free device. However, it will not do voice dial. Then I tap long on the selection of this device in Bluetooth configuration and bring up the menu. In the menu, I select make this device the default hands free. Afterwards, it will work with voice dial.
You need to check to see if that headset supports voice dialing. I beleive that there are some out there that don't.
The "Hands Free" checkbox is checked on the device. And the manufacturer says it does support voice dialing. Anecdotal evidence (online search) also says that some people were able to use MDA with this headset and MS Voice Command.
Can it be a function of my ROM or any radio versions? They are in my signature if it matters.
Also, the headset has "Bluetooth version: 1.2 Class2". I do not know what that means, maybe that is why I think it may matter.
Different headsets behave in wildly different ways when it comes to activating voice dialing. My Moto HS850, for example, activates VC on the second push of the button, and you can tell at the same time it is pulling all sounds from the phone so you can hear the "bling-bling"... and then it takes its sweet long time in allowing the phone to return to normal so you cannot use VC again until that happens. My Bluespoon AX2 is different, in that it works every other time, and my Jabra BT800 just plain doesn't even work.
I suggest you play around with the BT config in your phone to see what works best for you.
I tried one click, double-click, tripple, and push-and-hold - nothing works.
Also, just tried a colleague's headset (Jabra JX10), it does not activate Voice Command on my Wizard either. I am going to talk to the manufacturer of my headset, see what they say.
Hello all
Can you tell me is your supplied handfree working?
I just installed some mp3's onto a new SD card, while I had the headphones on I thought I would try handsfree, it does not work.
The silver button you press to activate voice dial or answer calls does nothing, and I cannot speak into the microphone, I can only hear calls.
I have voice tabbed my contacts, voice dialing works great on the phone but not the headset. Inside the phone, the phone menu has 'Turn Hands-free On', this is greyed out. Has this feature been removed from the phone?
The phone is Orange SPV M600
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i find the button on the headset useless. 9 times out of ten it does nothing, then suddently it will end a call or open the voice prompt. I gave up and put it down to a windowsism.
Well, mine can only answer calls, it will not start voice dial and will not open the phone app. No problems with sound or mic.
I use Motorola H350 anyway so it doesn't really bother me.
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From a lot of Googling I have found nothing official even mentioning the use of the handsfree they advertise and supply. However, it would appear that this phone is only capable of answering and closing calls with handsfree, so not truly handsfree.
You still have to take out your nice new, expensive toy in order to make a call, clearly advertising it to potential muggers. Where I live that is just about everyone you see.
Does seem strange though that cheap old Nokias can do this, but a nice new computerised phone can not. Then again it is Microsoft. I have only had it a week, but already I have found that WM5 is not very backward compatible with software. There are issues with bluetooth headsets (which is why I cancelled an order), and in a week just like old ME, I have lost count of the number Soft Resets that I have had to perform.
I find the most useless feature is the voice dial, you have to open, start, programs, voicedial to make a call or use it. Why not just run the app manually rather than trust voicedial to guess what your after.
Sorry guys but I am not sure what the fuss is about.
I had my phone for a month before getting the BT headset (no problems there by the way) so I assigned the voice speed dial to the comm manager button. Easy and useful and you have the comm manager icon in the today tray so the button is not a major loss.
Now that I have the H350 which is more comfortable than the wired hands-free any way, everything works smoothly but this is with the i-mate ROM. Perhaps your BT troubles are from the Orange ROM?
voice speed used to work.....
I have an H500 headset which used to work splendidly on my Orange M600. The silver button would launch voice dialling and pick up and end calls.
however I upgraded to the Dopod ROm and now it does bugger all! I can hear the calls, but the headset will not launch voice dialling, and all options are greyed out.
Question is, is this feature in the main ROm or the extended part....I have acopy of the Orane extended ROm but can't see anything that looks like the right cab file.
I did not let Dopod customisations run after upgrading, and I really don't want to do a hard reset again!
If anyone knows which file you need to install voice speed dialling I'd be grateful!
Re: voice speed used to work.....
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I have an H500 headset which used to work splendidly on my Orange M600. The silver button would launch voice dialling and pick up and end calls.
however I upgraded to the Dopod ROm and now it does bugger all! I can hear the calls, but the headset will not launch voice dialling, and all options are greyed out.
Question is, is this feature in the main ROm or the extended part....I have acopy of the Orane extended ROm but can't see anything that looks like the right cab file.
I did not let Dopod customisations run after upgrading, and I really don't want to do a hard reset again!
If anyone knows which file you need to install voice speed dialling I'd be grateful!
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The wired headset does not work fully, it can only be used to answer or close calls, it will not initiate voice dialing. I bought a cheap bluetooth headset off of ebay, it paired straight away and initiates voice dialing. I have never been able to get my headet to work, I now just plug it in if I want to play music.
I am not sure about Dopod and Orange ROMs, but in i-mate ROM the speed dial app it self (cyberon voice speed dial) is in the extended ROM while it's settings applet is in ROM.
As for the part that is responsible for answering / ending calls that should be in ROM with any version.
the H500 IS a bluetooth headset- it's a Motorola and wasn't cheap!
It used to work as I say, then I went to the Dopod ROM and now there is no voice speed dialing at all.
I can't seem to find the cyberon cab files anywhere....
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the H500 IS a bluetooth headset- it's a Motorola and wasn't cheap!
It used to work as I say, then I went to the Dopod ROM and now there is no voice speed dialing at all.
I can't seem to find the cyberon cab files anywhere....
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Sorry I read too quickly, I originally started this post before I got bluetooth as I could not get the wired set to work.
Hi
From what I had read in the past when I was having problems with my headset, Cyberon's Voice Speed Dial software is embedded in the OS it does not come as a cutomisation. I have just brought mine up and it simply says Cyberon Voice Speed Dial Setting Version 1.1 Build 51212. Copyright (c) 2005 Cyberon Corporation. There is nothing there related to Orange, and I can not find it in any of the Orange Extended ROM CABS.
I guess Microsoft did a deal with them to install it in the Phone Edition of WM5.
The headset pairs ok, it works but unreliable: Calls are recieved ok, calls outgoing from the phonepad ok but the problem is voice-dial.
Sometimes it works as it should: I activate voice dial by the button on the BT headset and the call is made, no problem.
Nine out of ten times however the voice dial does get its audio input through the PHONE mike and not through the headset mike, which usually ends up with getting the complete wrong person on the phone.
This btw happens to be my father - in law, who is called Rob. Somehow all unclear voice dials that I create because of this malfunctioning system are directed to him and it drives him and me crazy!
So I just deleted his voice tag to prevent possible family relations getting ruined.....
Ok, back to business: Is this just the OEM voicedialprogram by Cyberon and will I be better off with another voice speed dialling program or is it the Bluetooth manager in the Hermes that is crap?
This happens on two different BT headsets I own: A Jabra 250 and a brandnew Plantronics Discovery 655.
Any ideas and suggestions on this subject are very welcome before I swap my VarioII for another device.......
dido here
i am trying a motorola 300 series or something on my MDA. everytime i activate the voice command thing it listens to the device instead of my BT headset. i thought it might be due to using the BTaudio changer program that lets my headset play music from the wizard but sounds like i'm not alone here. anyone got any ideas?
So I'm not the only one........One of the great features of such a device is that you can actually make notes and work your agenda etc. while talking on the phone. Now if the voice commands do not go through the headset it is pretty useless.
I think it is a BT related issue. I don't think another program like Microsoft Voice Command is going to change that.
It might be a bug in the T-Mobile rom. I have not seen this issue from Tytn users yet..........
i have the HTC tytn with Imate rom but still same problem as u guys. The bluetooth voice dialing only works with the Handset after while instead of the bluetooth Headset . However it does go back to normal after Reset...So i hope one day this problem will be solve
I am on MDA VARIO II (Dutch) and am using a cheap Bluetrek which costs I think 30 USD (got is for free when getting the VARIO II).
Works perfect
So you can actually make voice dial tags through the headset? And you also hear the confirmation through the headset? You can easily test this by covering the MDA mike and speaking softly the voicetag in the headset.
Please give me your rom and radio info?
My ROM versions:
ROM: 1.21.114.3
Date: 06/20/06
Radio: 1.05.02.00
Protocol: 32.36.7010.04H
Th truth is though, I have only two voice tags: Home & Office.
Those two usually work just fine. I recorded them via the Vario and not via the headset.
To tell you the truth, when I used any of my WM 5 devices I never used to have many voicetags, just can't be bothered to record them all. I did use the Cyberon voice comander, which seems to work beter then the voice dial thing that is built into the ROM. Although for us dutch people, you have to learn how to pronounce the dutch names (like Nachtigaal for example) in an english manner , LOL
I think my Vario II is faulty. I have not seen this issue on any other forum yet. I will walk into a T-Mobile shop this week and see how the headsets performs on another Vario II. If it does work I'll swap mine for another one.
Keep you posted..........
Jeroen,
Can you post the serial number of your device and the approx. Date of purchase? I have an acuaintance who has an VARIO II and he seems to complain about the Alignment problems ! Strange I thought that T-Mobile's Vario II's were cured of this disease.
Thanx
P.S. Oh and also of course if you are suffering from the Alignment probs?
Ok, today I checked the BT handsfree profile functionality with another Vario II at the local T-Mobile shop and it worked fine. So my Vario II was declared faulty and I will recieve a new one as soon as T-Mobile NL gets the new batch in.
Churchill: I have a 634 Series and I bought it two weeks ago. I only experienced SA issues two times.
Thanx Jeroen,
I seem to have the SA issue sporadically, and it started after I tryed a taiwanese software for businesscard scan & ecognition. I need to find time to perform a hard reset
My Vario 2 does the exact same thing sometimes the voice dial actually works throught the handsfree mic, but most of the time it wants me to actually speak to the phone. I HAVE SEEN THIS PROBLEM MANY TIMES BEFORE, so I dont think its your headset, I know some people got around it by installing Microsoft Voice command, but for it to work properly with that I think it is necessary for the Bluetooth headset to have te serial profile. (dont quote me on that last bit!!) But like I said I think its a common issue.
Jeroen!
I started to become worried that i might have the same issue like you with the Voice tags. So today I have recorded a bunch of them (approx 15) then hid my phone inside my suit jacket and then put my coat on and then tryed to dial using my Bluetrek S21 (which I got for free with my Vario II) every single voice tag worked on the first try. I have recorded the voice tags using the phone itself without the headset.
So it must really be a faulty device, but hey you knew that already
Workaround!!
I was having similar problems with the voice sometimes coming from the Bluetooth Headset and sometimes coming from the phone speaker itself. After a bit of investigation, I have found out that if the voice tag was not recognized / successful, the next time the sound will come from the phone and will not be transferred to Bluetooth. If the voice tag is recognized successfully, the next time it will work properly.
I have found a workaround for the problem. If after pressing the Bluetooth call button, the voice comes from the phone, I quickly press the Bluetooth call button again, and the voice from Bluetooth mic is recognized properly.
I don't know about the other Headsets, but with my Headset (Sony Ericsson HBH-662), I hear a short beep each time the audio is switched to Bluetooth and back. So for me the sequence of operation is normally like this.
Normal Operation:
-Press Bluetooth Call button
-Short Beep (Audio transferred to Bluetooth)
-Beep from Voice Dial Software (Indication to start speaking)
-Speak the Voice Tag
-Repeat of Recognized Voice Tag from the Voice Dial Software
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred back to Phone)
-Phone Dialing Start
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred to Bluetooth. Similar to when manually dialing)
-Normal conversation
Error In Operation:
-Press Bluetooth Call button
-Short Beep (Audio transferred to Bluetooth)
-Short Beep (Audio transferred back to Phone)
-Beep from Voice Dial Software (from Phone speaker)
(At this time if you speak into the phone mic, the normal operation will start)
-Error Beep from Voice Dial Software (from Phone speaker)
-Next time the same error will be experienced.
Workaround:
-Press Bluetooth Call button
-Short Beep (Audio transferred to Bluetooth)
-Short Beep (Audio transferred back to Phone)
-Quickly press Bluetooth Call button again (no short beep will be heard)
-Beep from Voice Dial Software (from Phone speaker or from Bluetooth if you are quick enough)
-Speak the Voice Tag (Bluetooth Mic)
-Repeat of Recognized Voice Tag from the Voice Dial Software
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred back to Phone)
-Phone Dialing Start
-Short Beep (Audio Transferred to Bluetooth. Similar to when manually dialing)
-Normal conversation
After this the next time normal operation will be resumed.
I hope that this works for others also. Please give your comments.
Effan
Orange SPV M310 has same issues
BarnOwl said:
Ok, today I checked the BT handsfree profile functionality with another Vario II at the local T-Mobile shop and it worked fine. So my Vario II was declared faulty and I will recieve a new one as soon as T-Mobile NL gets the new batch in.
Churchill: I have a 634 Series and I bought it two weeks ago. I only experienced SA issues two times.
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I have been driven nuts trying to find a solution to this exact problem. I have a UK Orange SPV M3100 and use a Motorola HS850 Bluetooth headset. I have never managed to initiate a call through the headset, it always requires me to speak the name into the phone itself... useless and dangerous when driving!
So your T-Mobile Vario II was faulty? Maybe there are a bad batch of Hermes devices. I will try taking mine into the Orange shop and see if I can get it to work on another unit... maybe I have a faulty phone too.
I will post back my results, just in case other have the same issues.
MW
You should check out the 'MS VoiceCommand 1.6 with Bluetooth and TyTN?' thread.
It's rather long and techy, and doesn't just apply to using MS VoiceCommand 1.6. but it basically does resolve the issue with the Tytn where voice input is not directed to the bluetooth device after pressing the call button.
It took me 3 attempts to get it working, following the instructions in the thread, but it does work very well now.
It is also documented on the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils
Good luck.
HI all,
I got a t-mobile Vario II and have a plantronics 655 handsfree. I have searched the forum but found nothing that answers my problem.
I want to be able to answer a call from the phone and when the handsfree is paired the sound to come through the handsfree. I have tried a few handsfree kits but none seem to work and all the calls come through the phone until i pull the handsfree out of my ear hit answer n put it back in. Am i missing something? I want to be able to answer a call from the phone and talk through my handsfree. When i make a phone call however from the phone it works fine and the sound comes through the handsfree like it should.
I read something about a handsfree profile...where is that? i don't have a handsfree profile option on my phone. Is it an add-on. I tried the handsfree with my ericsson phone and when u answer from the phone it asks if i want the audio through the handset or the handsfree..
hellpppppp...its driving me madd lol
I Take it no one knows the answer to this or has created a patch? Does everyone answer there phone from the answer button on the bluetooth handsfree then? ??
What you are trying to do, is contrary to the feature designed into your dialer. When you answer the phone call from the phone instead of the connected headset, you obviously wanted to talk via the phone not the headset so that is where it routes the call. You can get it back to the headset after you answered on your phone by selecting the menu option and selecting "Turn Handsfree On".
similar issue
I have an ATT branded 8525, and a Motorola H550.
I'm using the built in voice dialer, as I really don't feel like shelling out any more money for voice commander, when I'm paying for the spb products I have (pocketplus, mobile shell, and phone suite).
With other phones, I could use the phone (by hand) to dial a number, while wearing the BT headset, and it would automatically put the conversation on the phone.
This doesn't.
Also, when I receive a call, I don't get the ringtones I have selected for specific callers, just a generic beep.
Morgan
That issue is actually unrelated. The issue that arnie_ahu has is trying to do something differently than the phone design. However, your issue is a real issue. Dialing on the phone and pressing call should send the call to the headset if it is connected properly. The ony conclusion I can think of is that it is not connected properly as a headset.
In my experience, this is Bluetooth device specific. When I use my Jawbone, I can answer on the phone and the conversation will be on the Jawbone. However, if I use a Plantronics 320 and answer on the phone, the conversation will be on the phone.
The reason why I answer using the phone instead of using the Bluetooth headset is out of courtesy to the caller. For some reason, when I answer with a Bluetooth device, the caller hears a very loud sound that is reminiscent of a fog horn. I have experienced this with multiple phones and headsets. I am guessing this is related to the Bluetooth handshake.
edited: spelling correction.
It may be (for me) because I am using mp3 ringtones on a mono earpiece.
From what I have found on line, that won't work with WM5, which sucks, because it worked on my old piece of crap nokia 6230.
Why oh why must this be so hard?
Now I have to try and convert the mp3 ringtones I made from full songs to something the phone will use.