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I'm looking for a way to redirect my TomTom voice instructions from my MDA Vario through my Parrat CK3300 BT carkit sounding on my car-speakersystem by using the bluetooth stack. Now Parrot claims this isn't possible due to a phone limitation. I agree and think it's shortage of Microsoft WM5. Now I've looked up some info about Bluetooth Audio Distribution and found the following:
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
AKU 2.0 for Windows Mobile 5.0 (for both, Smartphone and Pocket PC), which is expected to be released early next year (2006), will also includes support for the Bluetooth Advanced Audio Distribution Profile profile which is designed to transfer a stereo audio stream like music from the device to a headset or car radio.
A2DP is already implemented into the Samsung SGH-i300 Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Smartphone, however this isn't based on Microsoft's A2DP implementation but Samsung added it itself.
(Refer to http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2779 for more info concerning this subject.)
So if this article is based on true facts, it means that Microsoft will soon release a patch for all WM5 based devices, which enables them to receive all audio (e.g. TomTom voice instructions) through the bluetooth stack.
Somebody knows more about this subject and if it's true that after having AKU 2.0 installed, you can hear the navigation instructions through your carkit or headset?
Many thanks,
Youri Festen
there is a facility on this forum that will allow you to switch audio to and from the bluetooth, not high quality or stereo but standard quality.
There is ?
Been loking around in the threads for quite a while, but didn't find a replicatable solution...
Here you go
Tried all kind of files, but no go...
All i want is ALL audio over the Carkit (Supertooth2). That is TomTom + Phone.
I don't care if i have to trun of the carkit to return audio to the phone. But i don't want to have to reset or something.
I have a XDA (Himalaya) btw. Still with Rom 1.72 00WWE 15/03/2004 (Ext Rom 1.72.125)
Tried all these :
BA_OEM_AudioGW.CAB
BA_WM5_Voice_Dialer_2.cab
BCHS_FOR_POCKET_PC_OZONE[1].ARMV4.CAB
Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV.cab
Broadcom Stack + Switcher + Icon.zip
BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab
BTAGExtModule-2.zip
btagextmodule.zip
btaudio.zip
MS-BT-107.ARMV4.CAB
SCO settings all BT.txt
voicedial2.rar
whoa it worked
i know im reaching here, but really wanted to try to stream to the new cingular 2125 (aka hct). downloaded and ran the app with my iphono steroe headphones (luv em), got intresting results.
it worked. ran the app, pushed the button on the headphones, got music. call came in, answered (with auto answer) talked, and on hangup it went back to music. however, if i ran another app on the phone such as voice tag in contacts to initiate a call, it brought in the call, but on hangup went back to the speaker. had to run the toggle on again to get headphones working, not elegant - always want more - but im a happy guy til a2dp comes out for mobile 5. thanks!
try looking at this
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
might be what you need
Scollinguk said:
try looking at this
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
might be what you need
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Try reading and understanding what you read before posting. See the post of dalamario that is the BTAudio on/off tool !
Is this goingt to be anter shout and wild guesses about what file or tool should "really"work ?
I tried all so called "easy" fixes, hell, i've even got a whole dump of my registry, cut through all the BT + Audio and BT + Headset threads, here and on PDAPhonehome, Howardsforum, and the reduced-to-user-bla-bla on pocketPC-club.nl.
And still zilch.....
Ow, and don't think i'm someone who wants easy answers... Think again, i've been around quite a while on PPC forums and the lot....
What i do want/like is usefull answers ans clues on how this BT and Audio stuff works, beut even after reading some on MSDN i can't find a solution yet....
That's why i jumped in on this thread, i'm not going to reinvent the wheel if some allready has the solution: Tomtom and Phone audio over BT
So i'll stop writing now, and continiu searschin for a solution... There must be one...
Sorry mr high horse, wont bother trying to help next time just in case i might not be right, but then if everyone did that no one would answer anything.
The Wizard can do system Audio over bluetooth.
This has been proved with the easy hack that allows you to activiate voice dial using a BT headset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29837
MS Voice Command leaves the Audio Gateway open after initialising, whilst Voice Dialler closes it.
So maybe try installing Voice Command and doing the hack in the above referenced thread, and then see if you can launch Voice command from your car kit. This should leve the gateway open and allow all system sounds to stream to your BT kit until you hit the button again.
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Try reading and understanding what you read before posting.
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Try keeping Himalaya talk in the Himalaya forum then. Posting questions about devices in the wrong forums just causes confusion.
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Sorry mr high horse, wont bother trying to help next time just in case i might not be right, but then if everyone did that no one would answer anything.
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Not Mr High Horse, but didn't you look at what you where posting ? You should know it linked to the same file, right ? If not, you really would just be 'shouting' ...
It's just that i've been reading XXX threads, and just about everyone comes up with the same, useless, files... Like nowbody really knows how it works and waht should be done to make Audio over BT possible...
We here are all trying real hard for months now, you see....
Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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bob]Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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where is it? i want it! i need it!
ready to test.
Can't share it.
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spoil sport
i won't tell anyone,
got motorola ht850 headphones.
have one question whilst here,
when i am on the underground the headset give a beep to tell me i have no network signal? you may not know the answer but would this over ride the bluetooth stereo signal?
p.s. send me your bank details for the transfer :wink:
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bob]Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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Do you think that when it works with I-Phono, it will also offer us the navigation voice instructions through BT-headsets or carkits? Hope so!
Can't test it with car navigator.
if audio streaming is enabled, i would have thought you should be able to hear navigation commands.
i have used the bt audio switch that started this thread to hear tomtom commands through my headset, and it works fine.
saves me explaining to my 84 year old dad why yoda is giving me directions :lol:
aliendad said:
if audio streaming is enabled, i would have thought you should be able to hear navigation commands.
i have used the bt audio switch that started this thread to hear tomtom commands through my headset, and it works fine.
saves me explaining to my 84 year old dad why yoda is giving me directions :lol:
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It's nice.... I'd really like Tomtom over my carkit... Ohh, the XDA was so much easyer just soldered a Ground and Left/Right channnel into my TomTom/Leadtec connector, and plugged it in to my JVC Front-in line...
I bought the Qtec 2020 because BT seemd so much easyer
i've been looking for the answer ( i think it should have been something that more people are suffering from but i was wrong )
i have a new headset. the sony hbh-ds970 nifty little thing. however when i'm receiving a call i only see the phone number on the screen. is there a way to display the name that the call is from when it is in my phonebook?
p.s. i'm using that upgrade to enable a2dp
Yes I know, it's really hard to find something here. Indeed there are more people than only you, who would like this feature to be supported! But bad news! Please read my little review of the headset in combination with the Magician in the A2DP thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=337217#337217! So far only the point that MortPlayer does not support AVRCP is outdated.
The short conclusion, that matches also this thread is: "To sum up, the HBH-DS970 is a high quality product and the "Walkman" logo on it is justified. Only the Magician is not an equal counterpart to it."
well i'm willing to start on such an application. but i was looking yesterday, and since havn't found any sdk for the ppc2003se bluetooth stack. No api, actually finding info on a2dp or avrcd was pretty hard to come by.
Can anyone point me in the right direction (sdk for the ppc2003se bluetoothstack?)
i have some good ideas on how to implement the stuff.
That would be really nice! But I don't know if there is an SDK for the stack, maybe ask in a seperate thread!?
hmm why does the caller id sometimes work and sometimes not? i just got a call from a friend, and his name was in the screen, after the call i tried to phone and i got the right name in screen... pretty weird :S
Guys,
try this app (JETware Hands-free Extension for Windows Mobile phones) @ http://www.jetwaremobile.com/index.htm
It works!
The best option until M$ decides to implement it by their own in BT stack...
Conchas said:
Guys,
try this app (JETware Hands-free Extension for Windows Mobile phones) @ http://www.jetwaremobile.com/index.htm
It works!
The best option until M$ decides to implement it by their own in BT stack...
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I mentioned this already and it does NOT work for me!
Unauthorized said:
I mentioned this already and it does NOT work for me!
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Luckily, It work with my magician, Name of incoming call display correctly in Sony DS970 bluetooth
Hello.
I bought a stereo headset from Qstarz "BH-Q395S".
Using no tweaks.. Quality is low. Like low bit rate.
Using the fit4cat tweaker , sound sounds as it is higher quality BUT it is distorted in the high`s.
Is this the normal problem everyone is having ?
What can I do ?
Does ROM updates help this issue ?
Do you think the HTC headset will be better (s100)?
BTW. When paired with my PC , sound is great.
oholic said:
Hello.
I bought a stereo headset from Qstarz "BH-Q395S".
Using no tweaks.. Quality is low. Like low bit rate.
Using the fit4cat tweaker , sound sounds as it is higher quality BUT it is distorted in the high`s.
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The A2DP support in pre-AKU3 MS BT stack sucks and this can't really be helped. AKU3 is said to have eliminated this problem.
Also see my article on this very subject here at the General forum (I cross-post all my articles here): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282017
Note that the article is discussed actively over at PPCT, HowardForums and my blog too; see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1400&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for further links.
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What can I do ?
Does ROM updates help this issue ?
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Hope AKU3 will indeed be better.
Do you think the HTC headset will be better (s100)?
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I don't think so. It might be better (as are some - few! - models, for example, the Jabra), but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
So there is hope for the future..
The question is when and if will "AKU3" be avilable for the tytn ?
Can the MS BT stack be changed?
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The A2DP support in pre-AKU3 MS BT stack sucks and this can't really be helped. AKU3 is said to have eliminated this problem.
Also see my article on this very subject here at the General forum (I cross-post all my articles here): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282017
Note that the article is discussed actively over at PPCT, HowardForums and my blog too; see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1400&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for further links.
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1, the release date of the TyTN AKu3 ROM (if any) is unknown
2, the A2DP quality issues of the pre-AKU3 ROM can't be fixed (unless someone extracts the related DLL files from an AKU3 ROM in a way that is compatible with previous ROM's).
The only way to avoid the quality issues is going staright for the Jabra headsets (or going for another PDA with the Widcomm BT stack - or any Palm OS device, for that matter). See my discussions of this issue over at PPCT and HowardForums.
Menneisyys said:
1, the release date of the TyTN AKu3 ROM (if any) is unknown
2, the A2DP quality issues of the pre-AKU3 ROM can't be fixed (unless someone extracts the related DLL files from an AKU3 ROM in a way that is compatible with previous ROM's).
The only way to avoid the quality issues is going staright for the Jabra headsets (or going for another PDA with the Widcomm BT stack - or any Palm OS device, for that matter). See my discussions of this issue over at PPCT and HowardForums.
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Or manage to hack the Widcomm stack to make it work on the TyTn like it was done for the axims.. i seriously make a donation if someone would make that happen. Heck, i'd even purchase it if Broadcom was willing to sell it..
Adi
adisor19 said:
Or manage to hack the Widcomm stack to make it work on the TyTn like it was done for the axims.. i seriously make a donation if someone would make that happen. Heck, i'd even purchase it if Broadcom was willing to sell it..
Adi
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Post a "donation thread" ("let's collect, say, 500 bucks and give to the first hacker that manages to do it") to "Dev and Hacking" here as was done on AzximSite, it may speed up hacking / developing
Menneisyys said:
The only way to avoid the quality issues is going staright for the Jabra headsets (or going for another PDA with the Widcomm BT stack - or any Palm OS device, for that matter). See my discussions of this issue over at PPCT and HowardForums.
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Why? I can replace mine with jabra one.. but.. whats the diffrence ?
I was really hoping to purchase an i-Mate JasJam in the next few months to use with my Plantronics 590As ... fingers crossed we have an AKU3 ROM update by then!
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Why? I can replace mine with jabra one.. but.. whats the diffrence ?
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The HowardForums folks say the pre-AKu3 MS BT A2DP works flawlessly with the Jabra 620, unlike with the 590A and some other models.
I have a Jabra 620 and I'm not that impressed. The only headset I have had which worked completely flawlessly was an Itech S35 (but no AVRCP unfortunately).
I'm currently using a Nokia HS-12W which only hiccups if the Hermes is busy doing other things (but I've had to set the bitpool value to 48 decimal to achieve that).
All in all, I can't wait to see what happens when AKU3 arrives! Just as long as they don't break more than they fix ;-)
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I have a Jabra 620 and I'm not that impressed. The only headset I have had which worked completely flawlessly was an Itech S35 (but no AVRCP unfortunately).
I'm currently using a Nokia HS-12W which only hiccups if the Hermes is busy doing other things (but I've had to set the bitpool value to 48 decimal to achieve that).
All in all, I can't wait to see what happens when AKU3 arrives! Just as long as they don't break more than they fix ;-)
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Thanks; is the 620 THAT bad? (I havenb't ever tested it; it's only by others' telling that it doesn't sound THAT bad with the MS BT stack)
Just Check!
Menneisyys said:
The A2DP support in pre-AKU3 MS BT stack sucks and this can't really be helped. AKU3 is said to have eliminated this problem.
Also see my article on this very subject here at the General forum (I cross-post all my articles here): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282017
Note that the article is discussed actively over at PPCT, HowardForums and my blog too; see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1400&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for further links.
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We all know that this BT stereo implimentation sucks! Main problem is that EDR is not implemented correctly (note bumph on this phone does not show it as others do!) BUT!! if you have tried to use ANY A2DP enhancement CABs then make sure you have usejointstereo set to 0 and pick up an iTech clip S35 (as they work OK without EDR) to use with any decent headphones and you will be fine...
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Thanks; is the 620 THAT bad? (I havenb't ever tested it; it's only by others' telling that it doesn't sound THAT bad with the MS BT stack)
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The sound quality on the 620 is reasonable and it doesn't actually skip too badly, but I find that the RF performance is sadly lacking - if I use it anywhere where there's any other wireless signals around, it keeps giving periods of silence. For example, if I try to use it when shopping in the nearest supermarket to my office, from the moment I go into the store, I can only get odd bursts of music - about 1 second for every 5 seconds of silence. When I leave the store, it reverts to working reasonably again. This isn't just with my Hermes, it used to do exactly the same when using it with my Wizard as well.
The Itech S35 is the only A2DP device that has ever worked perfectly with my Hermes (with the bitpool set to decimal 58) without any skipping. Unfortunately, I really wanted AVRCP, so I've just bought a Nokia HS-12W and I'll see how that performs. So far I've had to set the bitpool down to decimal 30 to eliminate skipping, but I can live with that.
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Main problem is that EDR is not implemented correctly (note bumph on this phone does not show it as others do!) BUT!!
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Let me disagree. EDR has little to do with this stuff as you do NOT need EDR to transfer stuff at 256 or 320 kbps. It certainly good to have but is not a requirement for A2DP. This is why, for example, BT 1.1/1.2/2.0-without-EDR-only Widcomm or Palm OS devices have no problems with the sound quality (ever tried to listen to a, say, year 2003 Tunfgsten T3 to A2DP? It is flawless.) - unlike with the MS BT stack.
I'd say this is ONLY an algorithmic problem in the A2DP encoder in the MS BT stack. (I've pretty much gone into details on the matter in my articles and over at PPCT and HowardForums. The problem can not be fixed by any recently known hacks.)
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The Itech S35 is the only A2DP device that has ever worked perfectly with my Hermes (with the bitpool set to decimal 58)
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Haven't you encountered the "when there's any kind of singing, there's an awful lot of distortion" symptom with this headset?
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Haven't you encountered the "when there's any kind of singing, there's an awful lot of distortion" symptom with this headset?
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Yes, there is some distortion but I found it bearable if I was using a decent pair of headphones plugged into the S35.
I should point out that I'm no audiophile!
I haven't gotten my device yet (in the mail), but I've heard there is a BT headset bug which causes the person on the other line to have difficulty hearing you.
Is this true? Is there any fix?
i havent recieved my phone either yet but havent heard anything about the bluetooth but if your interested in a awesome bluetooth def look at a jawbone the jawbone i have is freakin amazing lol
I have a mogul and a tytn and a jawbone.
I have seen other posts (hofo, ppcgeeks, etc) that say there are major problems with bluetooth but I have yet to see them. I did use the bt fixes that I applied to my tytn to the mogul and have not had any problems. Jawbone picks up the request just fine.
Brad
There is a 5 pg thread over on ppcgeeks where people have been sounding off, but it doesn't look like there is a fix. I personally have a Motorola HS820 which has worked fine with my old CDMA 6600 that apparently sounds terrible on the other end.
Doesn't look like the ROM upgrade addressed the BT issues either...
The Jawbone sucks. Total waste of money. Overactive DSP and the worst wind noise of any BT headset. BT might be fixed in a future ROM update.
from what i've heard, the new sprint rom 2.09.xxx fixes the BT issues. I haven't gotten around to pairing my headset with it since the rom update, but I will at some point or another and let u know if it has made any difference.
I can only speak for my experience.
I am using the 2.0.9651.3 ROM on the mogul with the same BT fixes that I have used on my Tytn since they were made available ( BT Voice Command Fix from XCSdM and reg tweaks) and am not having any of the issues mentioned in the thread at ppcgeeks. My phone also came with that ROM from Sprint.
I have also used about 12 different BT headsets from Nokia, Jabra, Motorola, and others and the Jawbone has been the best so far at reducing outside noise/interferance.
Again, just my experience.
Very glad to hear that Park City!
ViPaDawG said:
from what i've heard, the new sprint rom 2.09.xxx fixes the BT issues. I haven't gotten around to pairing my headset with it since the rom update, but I will at some point or another and let u know if it has made any difference.
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You heard wrong. The ROM update does nothing except add Sprint's Music Store.
BT issues post-ROM update
I may be the unlucky one here, with a different story, but no one complained about my BT conversations prior to the update. Now, I've been told that my headset was "cutting out" today, so I had to hang up and turn off blue tooth to finish my conversation. May be coincidence that I didn't have problems before as the device is only two weeks old to me, but the ROM update definitely did not address BT as far as I can see. This BT reminds me of my Treo 700p....
Park City said:
I can only speak for my experience.
I am using the 2.0.9651.3 ROM on the mogul with the same BT fixes that I have used on my Tytn since they were made available ( BT Voice Command Fix from XCSdM and reg tweaks) and am not having any of the issues mentioned in the thread at ppcgeeks. My phone also came with that ROM from Sprint.
I have also used about 12 different BT headsets from Nokia, Jabra, Motorola, and others and the Jawbone has been the best so far at reducing outside noise/interferance.
Again, just my experience.
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hi,
I'm new to the bt bug. where can I can find these fixes and reg tweaks. I am having the problem with perple not hearing me and I need to get it corrected.
thanks
billf.
fergusonwilliam said:
hi,
I'm new to the bt bug. where can I can find these fixes and reg tweaks. I am having the problem with perple not hearing me and I need to get it corrected.
thanks
billf.
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The only fix is to get a different phone with BT that works.
had the phone a couple of days now... BT has been alright for me, although I don't use it for more than a few minutes of talking at a time!
I am very sorry in advance if this issue has been raised elsewhere on the site, but after spending quite some time searching for an answer by both the forum search and google search, I am going round in circles and haven't found a solution.
I have a UK Tmobile Vario 2 (Hermes) running its original Rom (I have been too scared to flash it in case I break the phone as I don't really know what I am doing) and I have a Motorola S705 A2DP headset. I love the feature on VC 1.6 which reads out new text messages in full but can't find any way of routing the audio for this feature through my bt headset. The incoming call notification works through the headset but every time an SMS comes through it pauses A2DP, reads it via the phones loudspeaker, then diverts sound back to the headset again?!?
I went on the WIKI and found the Voice Command section. I tried installing the patch/program it suggests and did the tweaks it said to the registry , but it didn't make any difference on this problem.
I just wondered if this is an unfixable problem, or if there is anything I can do to get it working because this feature would be incredibly useful to me (I ride a motorbike and to get texts read through my headset when riding would be excellent).
Thanks in advance for any help guys. Sorry again if I am raising a known issue, if I am, if you could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated.
have you tried this? i know this .cab file worked on my jawbone but i dont/have not used VC 1.6.
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have you tried this? i know this .cab file worked on my jawbone but i dont/have not used VC 1.6.
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Thanks Bapski, I have just installed it but unfortunately it hasn't helped thank you anyway though, it was definitely worth a try
Well, I have had a good read through the threads on Voice Command and all the fixes for the headset button but it seems nothing yet solves the problem of routing the SMS notification through the headset which is a shame, it would have been so useful.
Well, hopefully, when I get my nice new Kaiser upgrade (whenever that may be ) .. I will have more luck with the bluetooth audio
Don't buy a phone with a MS BT stack because they will never fix the problem..MS has known about this for so long its just sad..The next phone I get will have a widcomm bt stack.
Yeh, got to say that the bluetooth hasn't been particularly great ... especially when trying to get it working on A2DP.
If only I hadn't stumbled across VC 1.6 I would be none the wiser and wouldn't even know it is possible to have SMS messages read out oh well
it doesnt work dont even bother, I loved it on my wizard, but there is a hardware problem with the heremes or whatever the problem is the last revision of the BT stack doesnt fix it and its never worked. all the patches and fixes only work for awhile then just stop and rquire a cryptic series of hacks to make them half work again. your better off buying a thai slave to read your messages to you.