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Universal BT headset survey

Please list what BT headset do you use with your Universal and the Pros and Cons. I'm in the market looking for the best BT headset for the Universal so I'll need as many feedbacks as possible, thanks all

As if you'd need warning, but I would (on the whole) advise against going for a cheapy clip-on one. I bought one a while ago on the basis that (a) it was cheap and (b) I didn't want to strap a 2.4GHz mini-microwave oven to my head :lol:
It works ok, but is just about fiddly enough to make me stay with a wired setup or speakerphone.
From what I've read in other posts, there isn't yet a bt headset that integrates with the ppc well enough to show the name of the caller. I think that until that one's resolved I'll be holding fire anyway.
[OK, I know it's not a particularly helpful addition to the thread, but at least it bumps it, right ]

Sony Ericsson HBH-660
+ Small
+ Light
+ Cool display
- Display only displays number with HTC devices
- Battery life poor
Jabra BT800
+ Battery last for ages
+ Really big display
- Takes ages to pick up a call
- Display only shows number with HTC devices
- Big

Hi,
I hope you people can help.
I looking for a Bluetooth headset thats got a a little display.
Hopefully this will display information like time, person calling, and possible scroll through contacts.
Due to the size of the Exec, I would like to store this in a backpack when out and about. And a smartheadset would really help.

Jabra BT800
Long battery life
Quick recharge
Reliable
Light
I never look at the display, other than to see the charge status.

din007 said:
Hi,
I hope you people can help.
I looking for a Bluetooth headset thats got a a little display.
Hopefully this will display information like time, person calling, and possible scroll through contacts.
Due to the size of the Exec, I would like to store this in a backpack when out and about. And a smartheadset would really help.
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BT headsets with displays don't display anything other than the caller number when used with HTC devices such as the Universal. Not sure why.

Smartphones need Smartheadsets..
Its just the XDA Exec is to big to carry in your jacket pocket.
And you need to open it everytime you need to call someon.
Living in london you get some looks on the underground.
And majority of all streetcrime involves mobile crime.
I`ve been toying with the of idea of a Mini-XDA Exec....
A device that small enough to fit into your pocket.
Snycs between the headset & XDA Exec.
With a display for Caller ID, Contacts, SMS...(Basic phone functions)
This would be a top seller..

I agree this would cost but would be perfect.
No more fearing getting mugged at the station.
No more being a flash git in the pub.
No more carring a brick in your pocket.
HTC should consider designing accessories.

Both the SE HBH-608 and Jabra Bt800 workl well. The battery life on the HBH-608 is just fantastic. I get about 8 days of use from it (it is on 10 hours a day). Ear piece volume is low on both models when used with the JJ. Need to test my HBH-300 and Jabra BT330.
Edit: @rilot, for caller ID to work you need a particular BT profile, the Se P910i does support the profile, which I think is the "hand free profile"

SE HBH 662
Just got my SE HBH 662. It's small, lightweight, seems comfortable. So far sound quality seems good on both ends.
I'm new to this headset business, so I'm not the best one to offer comparisons. I bought this model based on remarks on this and other forums, and so far my impression is that I have definitely benefited from the collective wisdom of great online communities like this one.
Thanks All.

I tried with Motorola HS850 and Jabra BT 250V.. Dont think they are made for jasjar... I know both of them doesnt have Display, was hoping to good sound quality.... But I was not lucky enough.

SE HBH-300
10 hours talk time, 300 hours standy.
Sound quality on an 02 XDA Exec is okay but not as good as with an SE P910i. The XDA's bluetooth suffers from static background noise.

jah said:
Edit: @rilot, for caller ID to work you need a particular BT profile, the Se P910i does support the profile, which I think is the "hand free profile"
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This is correct.
HTC state that their devices do have a handsfee profile. No idea why they can't pass the caller ID to the headset though.

Jabra BT 800 is OK with me.
*Long battery life.
*Discharging in short time.
*Big display screen.
*Big, but light.
*Easy to use.
*Can make calls from the Head Set for the last 10 Nos. without needing to open the phone.
*Reliable.
I was using sony erricson before buying the Jabra, but Jabra is far better than sony erricson........sony erricson battery dies in a couple of hours standby.
Regards,

I did try my hbh-660 just to see if it would work but shortly after changed over to my preferred bluespoon AX which works fine with the voice dialling etc. no issues there for me

rilot said:
jah said:
Edit: @rilot, for caller ID to work you need a particular BT profile, the Se P910i does support the profile, which I think is the "hand free profile"
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This is correct.
HTC state that their devices do have a handsfee profile. No idea why they can't pass the caller ID to the headset though.
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Guys, the phone number is the exact caller ID you're after. It is working as advertised. However, what you want is the _name_ behind the caller ID. Not sure if this is specified in the bluetooth specs, though...

problem with Jabra bt800
Has anybody experienced a crap sound with Jabra?
I can hear pretty well, but the person on the other side complains a "drummy" sound.
I tried deleting the pairing and restoring it, same results.
Any thought?
:shock:

I use the HBH-662, very comfortable, shows the number, has improved the voice quality 10 fold and sounds alot better than using the phone itself, dont use my phone without it anymore regardless of where i am.

This is strange. My SE HBH-662 (BT 1.2) works perfectly with my Jam and shows the caller-id as long as the number exists in the Outlook AB. IT doesn't show the number then, just the name. In the absence of a name, it will show the number only.

stamppot said:
rilot said:
jah said:
Edit: @rilot, for caller ID to work you need a particular BT profile, the Se P910i does support the profile, which I think is the "hand free profile"
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This is correct.
HTC state that their devices do have a handsfee profile. No idea why they can't pass the caller ID to the headset though.
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Guys, the phone number is the exact caller ID you're after. It is working as advertised. However, what you want is the _name_ behind the caller ID. Not sure if this is specified in the bluetooth specs, though...
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No it isn't
They both display the caller name when used with my SE P910i

A2DP for WM5 coming soon...

I'm looking for a way to redirect my TomTom voice instructions from my MDA Vario through my Parrat CK3300 BT carkit sounding on my car-speakersystem by using the bluetooth stack. Now Parrot claims this isn't possible due to a phone limitation. I agree and think it's shortage of Microsoft WM5. Now I've looked up some info about Bluetooth Audio Distribution and found the following:
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
AKU 2.0 for Windows Mobile 5.0 (for both, Smartphone and Pocket PC), which is expected to be released early next year (2006), will also includes support for the Bluetooth Advanced Audio Distribution Profile profile which is designed to transfer a stereo audio stream like music from the device to a headset or car radio.
A2DP is already implemented into the Samsung SGH-i300 Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Smartphone, however this isn't based on Microsoft's A2DP implementation but Samsung added it itself.
(Refer to http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2779 for more info concerning this subject.)
So if this article is based on true facts, it means that Microsoft will soon release a patch for all WM5 based devices, which enables them to receive all audio (e.g. TomTom voice instructions) through the bluetooth stack.
Somebody knows more about this subject and if it's true that after having AKU 2.0 installed, you can hear the navigation instructions through your carkit or headset?
Many thanks,
Youri Festen

there is a facility on this forum that will allow you to switch audio to and from the bluetooth, not high quality or stereo but standard quality.

There is ?
Been loking around in the threads for quite a while, but didn't find a replicatable solution...

Here you go

Tried all kind of files, but no go...
All i want is ALL audio over the Carkit (Supertooth2). That is TomTom + Phone.
I don't care if i have to trun of the carkit to return audio to the phone. But i don't want to have to reset or something.
I have a XDA (Himalaya) btw. Still with Rom 1.72 00WWE 15/03/2004 (Ext Rom 1.72.125)
Tried all these :
BA_OEM_AudioGW.CAB
BA_WM5_Voice_Dialer_2.cab
BCHS_FOR_POCKET_PC_OZONE[1].ARMV4.CAB
Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV.cab
Broadcom Stack + Switcher + Icon.zip
BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab
BTAGExtModule-2.zip
btagextmodule.zip
btaudio.zip
MS-BT-107.ARMV4.CAB
SCO settings all BT.txt
voicedial2.rar

whoa it worked
i know im reaching here, but really wanted to try to stream to the new cingular 2125 (aka hct). downloaded and ran the app with my iphono steroe headphones (luv em), got intresting results.
it worked. ran the app, pushed the button on the headphones, got music. call came in, answered (with auto answer) talked, and on hangup it went back to music. however, if i ran another app on the phone such as voice tag in contacts to initiate a call, it brought in the call, but on hangup went back to the speaker. had to run the toggle on again to get headphones working, not elegant - always want more - but im a happy guy til a2dp comes out for mobile 5. thanks!

try looking at this
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
might be what you need

Scollinguk said:
try looking at this
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
might be what you need
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Try reading and understanding what you read before posting. See the post of dalamario that is the BTAudio on/off tool !
Is this goingt to be anter shout and wild guesses about what file or tool should "really"work ?
I tried all so called "easy" fixes, hell, i've even got a whole dump of my registry, cut through all the BT + Audio and BT + Headset threads, here and on PDAPhonehome, Howardsforum, and the reduced-to-user-bla-bla on pocketPC-club.nl.
And still zilch.....
Ow, and don't think i'm someone who wants easy answers... Think again, i've been around quite a while on PPC forums and the lot....
What i do want/like is usefull answers ans clues on how this BT and Audio stuff works, beut even after reading some on MSDN i can't find a solution yet....
That's why i jumped in on this thread, i'm not going to reinvent the wheel if some allready has the solution: Tomtom and Phone audio over BT
So i'll stop writing now, and continiu searschin for a solution... There must be one...

Sorry mr high horse, wont bother trying to help next time just in case i might not be right, but then if everyone did that no one would answer anything.

The Wizard can do system Audio over bluetooth.
This has been proved with the easy hack that allows you to activiate voice dial using a BT headset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29837
MS Voice Command leaves the Audio Gateway open after initialising, whilst Voice Dialler closes it.
So maybe try installing Voice Command and doing the hack in the above referenced thread, and then see if you can launch Voice command from your car kit. This should leve the gateway open and allow all system sounds to stream to your BT kit until you hit the button again.

jpiek said:
Try reading and understanding what you read before posting.
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Try keeping Himalaya talk in the Himalaya forum then. Posting questions about devices in the wrong forums just causes confusion.

Scollinguk said:
Sorry mr high horse, wont bother trying to help next time just in case i might not be right, but then if everyone did that no one would answer anything.
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Not Mr High Horse, but didn't you look at what you where posting ? You should know it linked to the same file, right ? If not, you really would just be 'shouting' ...
It's just that i've been reading XXX threads, and just about everyone comes up with the same, useless, files... Like nowbody really knows how it works and waht should be done to make Audio over BT possible...
We here are all trying real hard for months now, you see....

Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.

[CpD said:
bob]Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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where is it? i want it! i need it!
ready to test.

Can't share it.

[CpD said:
bob]Can't share it.
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spoil sport
i won't tell anyone,
got motorola ht850 headphones.
have one question whilst here,
when i am on the underground the headset give a beep to tell me i have no network signal? you may not know the answer but would this over ride the bluetooth stereo signal?
p.s. send me your bank details for the transfer :wink:

[CpD said:
bob]Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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Do you think that when it works with I-Phono, it will also offer us the navigation voice instructions through BT-headsets or carkits? Hope so!

Can't test it with car navigator.

if audio streaming is enabled, i would have thought you should be able to hear navigation commands.
i have used the bt audio switch that started this thread to hear tomtom commands through my headset, and it works fine.
saves me explaining to my 84 year old dad why yoda is giving me directions :lol:

aliendad said:
if audio streaming is enabled, i would have thought you should be able to hear navigation commands.
i have used the bt audio switch that started this thread to hear tomtom commands through my headset, and it works fine.
saves me explaining to my 84 year old dad why yoda is giving me directions :lol:
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It's nice.... I'd really like Tomtom over my carkit... Ohh, the XDA was so much easyer just soldered a Ground and Left/Right channnel into my TomTom/Leadtec connector, and plugged it in to my JVC Front-in line...
I bought the Qtec 2020 because BT seemd so much easyer

MSVC 1.6 notifications - help (Microsoft Voice Commander)

I used to use MSVC 1.6 on the Tytn2 on WM6.5 (see sig) and the confirmation notifications when you called someone always used the bluetooth headset. Since running it on the Leo MSVC seems to use the loudspeaker on the handset instead of the bluetooth headset even though every setting is marked as "Announce notifications using Bluetooth hands free only"
Anyone else having this issue as I did a search and couldn't find anyone.
Edit: Just had it working once but then the other end couldn't hear me when the call connected. Then I tried again and it had reverted back to not working.
I went to Bluetooth settings, Advanced, Audio and ticked the box then rebooted the phone...

I have this same problem! Its annoying... you want to make a call and the prompts/confirmation come from the phone... Please, can someone figure this out?

Bumping thread as it should be resolvable

Starfury said:
Bumping thread as it should be resolvable
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IT isn't... I have done more research..
The Leo (and the TouchPro2) use a Widcomm BT stack as opposed to the usual MS stack. Sadly, this means the BT won't play nice with a lot of different apps/equipment. This isn't something that can be swapped out easily as NRG has pointed out. Touch Pro 2 users are still facing the same problems even though that phone was released much earlier. Some however have reported some success when using certain custom ROMS... how its working with some ROMS and not others is still a mystery it seems
I would watch the ROM Development thread carefully to see if a ROM what works with our MSVC shows up....

Hello,
Is there a workaround... ?
Thanks in advance for any info,
Jean-Jacques

I have the same problem. I'm using an old phone when I need to use hands-free. After spending a lot of money on my HD2, I'm not impressed.
I there a particular combination of headset and software that does work, especially for voice dialing?

have you tried this?
I would, but I don't know if I even have voice command on my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634494

DrATty said:
I there a particular combination of headset and software that does work, especially for voice dialing?
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Does not work with my helmet bike with scala-rider Q2, but does with does with Philips SH9000 stereo headset...
Mono/Stereo seems to matter.
Any workaround would be veryyyy appreciated
Jean-Jacques

Workaround
Hi,
for this following workaround seems the only way to get it runnin:
My BT-Headset has the ability to be set as a Stereo-Device. When I establish a connection to this Stereo-Device, I can use it (my BT Headset) to give Commands and recieve "answers" from the VC. In case I want to start a phone-Call, my headset changes the connection automatically from "Stereo-Device" to "Handsfree-Device" and back, after finishing the Call.
This may be the Reason, why someone here already got it running with a BT-Stereo-Headset.?
Sorry for my bad english...

[REQ] ROM - Microsoft Bluetooth Stack

Is it possible and if so, can any of the chef's here cook a ROM which includes the Microsoft bluetooth stack over the Widcomm one??
Cheers

+1
I know each has it's merits and problems, but I'm having more problems with the WIDCOMM stack than I did with the MS one on the HD, so I'd like to see this in a cooked ROM as well...

Agree. A good idea.
+1

I really hope this can be done... chefs, please help us out!

It cant be done easily. The bluetooth chips in these phones (TP2, HD2, etc) dont work with the microsoft BT stack because the drivers supplied by HTC, don't work with it. They're designed to only interface with the widcomm stack and software :/ God knows I hate the widcomm stack on my TP2 as well, especially the crappy quality of the A2DP protocol, but unless some very bright mind comes along that can hack/rewrite a driver to work with the MS stack.. we're out of luck :/

NRGZ28 said:
It cant be done easily. The bluetooth chips in these phones (TP2, HD2, etc) dont work with the microsoft BT stack because the drivers supplied by HTC, don't work with it. They're designed to only interface with the widcomm stack and software :/ God knows I hate the widcomm stack on my TP2 as well, especially the crappy quality of the A2DP protocol, but unless some very bright mind comes along that can hack/rewrite a driver to work with the MS stack.. we're out of luck :/
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Thanks....and bugger

NRGZ28 said:
It cant be done easily. The bluetooth chips in these phones (TP2, HD2, etc) dont work with the microsoft BT stack because the drivers supplied by HTC, don't work with it. They're designed to only interface with the widcomm stack and software :/ God knows I hate the widcomm stack on my TP2 as well, especially the crappy quality of the A2DP protocol, but unless some very bright mind comes along that can hack/rewrite a driver to work with the MS stack.. we're out of luck :/
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Thanks for the explaination NRG. You managed to get MSVC to play nice with your Energy ROM for the TP2... was that because of a updated or perhaps an older Widcomm stack?... MSVC not playing nice with my BT headset HD2 is killing me. I use it all the time when driving... Your TP2 ROM and perhaps another were the only ones that worked at all with MSVC
I emailed HTC to voice my "opinion" of the Widcomm stack... not that I expect anything to change

Thats very dissapointing to hear!
It´s very important for me to dial contacts using my bluetooth headset SE HBH-PK740 !

Hi there,
I have a Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 and it can access the addressbook/last calls without any problem on HD2. Is there any chance you might have missed the permission screen before first access attempt?
Also compared to Cruise, Diamond and HD (all bt tweaks applied) HD2 seems to have the best quality stereo output out of the box with these headphones. The bass is great and there is no background noise at all.
I friend of mine uses TP2 with Sony Ericsson HBH-DS220 and the stereo audio quality is also superior to MS stack both on WM and Vista/Win7.
I think it would make sense to open an thread to highlight incompatible BT hardware so that at least users planning to buy new ones will get the right headphones.

sproxy said:
Hi there,
I have a Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 and it can access the addressbook/last calls without any problem on HD2. Is there any chance you might have missed the permission screen before first access attempt?
Also compared to Cruise, Diamond and HD (all bt tweaks applied) HD2 seems to have the best quality stereo output out of the box with these headphones. The bass is great and there is no background noise at all.
I friend of mine uses TP2 with Sony Ericsson HBH-DS220 and the stereo audio quality is also superior to MS stack both on WM and Vista/Win7.
I think it would make sense to open an thread to highlight incompatible BT hardware so that at least users planning to buy new ones will get the right headphones.
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PLEASE explain us how you access adressbook?Voicedial?
I have SonyEricsson HBH-PV740 and Motorola HT820 and no way to dial adressbook.
I can dial last number by touching headset button twice but there´s no way to dial any person from adressbook without holding HD2 in my hands.

Hi there,
I have paired the device as usual. Then two profiles were selected by default. (stereo audio and handsfree).
1 Connect to your bluetooth device. You will see the services (image 1)
2 Select your device and then press properties button on the bottom left. (image 2)
3 Check the box where it says "Connections authorised"
If you dont perform step 3, next time the headset tries to access addressbook, you will see a promt on your phone and you will need to allow it. If you miss this screen, the functionality will not work.
When you press addresbook button or call history button on your headest, you will see that a new service is added to the list of services (image 4) named Phone Book Access. This will only show when you are accessing the addressbook or call history.
I can see both the names and numbers on the screen of the BT headset.
Also, in ms stack I would only see a number for the incoming calls on my headphones. Now I can see the name as well. So this was another improvement of the new BT stack.
Regading voice dialling, since I have a small screen on my headphones(980), did not need it. I think MS voice command would do the job well. The only issue I remember from previous WM devices was you needed to get the right DLL associated so that you could trigger it with the dial button on the headphones.
These theads might be a good starting point regarding MS voice Command
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304224
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281977
you might find more up to date resources if you searh the forums deeper.

Hi there,
is there anyone know why the bluetooth was downgrade from 2.1 in WM6.1 to 1.9.3 in WM6.5 in T-Mobile TP2? Any way to upgrade it back to 2.1?
I have a Sony Ericsson HBH-IS800 headset that requires Bluetooth2.0+ in order to use the volume control on TP2. There is no volume control on the headset.
Thanks.

Has any chef managed to disable last call redial through headset?

Auto redial through bluetooth headset is really a pain with new headsets with soft buttons.
When the earphone is in pocket many times the last call redial function is accidentally enabled.
Any chef any solution??
Thanks

I have no idea, but this isn't really a cooking question, as far as I can tell. It's probably better off in the Q&A forum, but I'll leave it here for now. Someone else may well have figured out how to do it (who doesn't cook roms).

EDIT: Wrong forum, ignore below unless you are on Android.
I too would like to disable last call redial on BT headsets. The best I have found is a program called "call confirm" which makes you confirm each time you want to make a phone call. Haven't tested it yet as it's actually for my father (I don't use a BT headset) but could be a good temporary fix. Otherwise I have not found any other solution.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/net.nanabit.callconfirm

Look at this: http://headsetbutton.com/
Maybe it could be an alternative while someone develops a free tool to manage that.
Trail is fully functioning for 21 days...but i think it's worth to pay 5.95 EUR for that.
Btw...thanks to funkwerk for the hint.

reallynotnick said:
I too would like to disable last call redial on BT headsets. The best I have found is a program called "call confirm" which makes you confirm each time you want to make a phone call. Haven't tested it yet as it's actually for my father (I don't use a BT headset) but could be a good temporary fix. Otherwise I have not found any other solution.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/net.nanabit.callconfirm
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This application is for android only!
Thanks anyway

icke said:
Look at this: http://headsetbutton.com/
Maybe it could be an alternative while someone develops a free tool to manage that.
Trail is fully functioning for 21 days...but i think it's worth to pay 5.95 EUR for that.
Btw...thanks to funkwerk for the hint.
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This is for wired headset.
Thanks anyway.

Farmer Ted said:
I have no idea, but this isn't really a cooking question, as far as I can tell. It's probably better off in the Q&A forum, but I'll leave it here for now. Someone else may well have figured out how to do it (who doesn't cook roms).
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I agree with you.
There is a similar application editing the bluetooth drivers.
But this editing applies only for microsoft bluetooth not widcomm drivers that uses the htc.(i have the Leo)
Thanks for your message.

NIKOSXRI said:
This application is for android only!
Thanks anyway
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Whoops, my apologies, I was just googling "android bluetooth last call redial" and didn't check which section I was in....
I can't believe neither platform has the ability to fix this. The only other option would be to find a different headset, like my father used to have a Motorola BT headset with a collapsable boom and when shut the buttons did not do anything though it would stay connected.
Well best of luck in your continued search.