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my first for ages.
I recently purchased a wizard which looks to be virtually brand new.
now the other day I updated it the the o2 uk latest rom as it was running a really old rom.
and it has been running perfectly, i have not looked into running any other rom or performance upgrades etc.
now I was using the device in landscape and after closing the unit my screen went bright white and my pride and joy is now not usable.
I can still acept calls, the touch screen still works but the screen is pure white.
Ive contact a few places and they all say the screen has died and needs replacing
Does this sound right.
its a £80 fix if this is right. im so gutted.
any advice is great before i pack it up and send it off.
anyone please....
Can you put it into bootloader mode? If not i would say you have a loose connection on the screen to the mainboard i had the same problem with my old phone the screen disconnected for the main board so no display! If you cant get it replaced take it apart and carefully check the connections if still doesnt work i would try another screen or buy one.
even when i reset it, it stays whits so cant see anyhting on screen,
ive had someone take it apart and re-seat the cables and still just a white screen
so im off to purchase another one in hope this is all thats gone
as your phone is booting up press and hold the camera button, is the screen still white?
cant tell now. ive sent if off for repair.
Im gutted.
bleep said:
cant tell now. ive sent if off for repair.
Im gutted.
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I had a similar issue, the keyboard sliding in and out must have worn out the switch that detects when it is open/closed. I had had my wizard a year and the screen started flickering, i dealt with it for a while, then the scree was stuck blank white unless if i pressed on the area of the phone that had the contact.
I had to send it back and got a refurb.
sounds like thats what happened to you too. Hopefully when you get it back it will be good as new
ive sent mine for a screen replacement tho not a repair.
now im worrying that its gonna come back in the same state.
Gulp
got my wizard back after having the screen replaced.
2 days later when ever i touch the bottom of the screen with pen, finger or even breath on it.
the screen goes off and the phone locks up and dies.
I have to take battery out and restart it and it then works great till i touch the bottom again.
Sound like a dodgy screen or something else.
Seems like a flexi strip(The one conecying the display to the mother board) sometimes if the strip develops a tear or is not properly connected this issue usually happens.
the shop doing the repair have said there is the following issues
1- padding issue on the screen (either too much or not enough)
2- Problems with the main board. (something on there is failling, hardware wise)
How the hell could this be happening on a device that was working perfectly
apart from the screen had died.
have they done more damage attempting the repair... I think so .!
I had the white screen 6 months ago. Luckily still under warranty period so got it repaired. It was the flexo-cable. since the fix no problem so far despites using the phone (also in landscape mode) daily.
when i got it back after the screen was replaced my xda worked great but as stated as soon as some preasure was applied to the bottom of the screen it would just die there and then.
I would have to take the battery out and then it would power on as normal
but again if i put presure on the bottom of the screen.. bang DEAD !
so sent it back to them and they told me what I stated above !
now waiting 2wks to hear what they are gonna do about it
not a happy bunny
still nothing back from the company thats doing the repair.
i dont know why they do this.
Im now thinking of getting my Xda back, selling it either on here or ebay and purchasing a new one.
Should i quit now or wait out for the miracle that they fix it completly.
Anyone in the uk reconmend a good repair company please im pulling my hair out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303872
theres your answer
I just bought a wing cheap and the problem was that even after a hard reset you could not get past the touch screen to set up since it wont recognize you touching the screen. I figured it would be a quick fix since i have fixed my 8925 and 8125 countless times. Turns out I am out of ideas anyone have any suggestions?
thacmonster said:
I just bought a wing cheap and the problem was that even after a hard reset you could not get past the touch screen to set up since it wont recognize you touching the screen. I figured it would be a quick fix since i have fixed my 8925 and 8125 countless times. Turns out I am out of ideas anyone have any suggestions?
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buy a new touchscreen
ok but the person i got it from said it quit working after a hard reset. and more so i dont understand why the lcd would still work but the touch screen aspect wouldnt
thacmonster said:
ok but the person i got it from said it quit working after a hard reset. and more so i dont understand why the lcd would still work but the touch screen aspect wouldnt
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The person that sold you the phone obviously lied about something. There is a reason why you got it for dirt cheap. Just go eBay a new screen and install it yourself. Since you don't need a lcd replacement, just look for that touch screen replacement part.
The touch layer usually goes bad first. They're seperate from the LCD because the manufactures know they'll need to be replaced. People like to tap the screen like they're trying to impale the phone. (P.S. Never let your girlfriend use your stylus.) If going to bootloader and reflashing doesnt work, Albert's plan is the best. They usually go for $40 or so.
I just purchased a replacement screen for my brothers wing. Buy it now price for the touch was $17.99, and it comes with the necessary tools.
SWEET!!!!! I might just buy a spare now! Thanks for the info.
7.99 plus 10 shipping. not too shabby i say
I need a replacement windows PDA phone for my lost wizard... and i have a friend willing to sell his 8525 for $50... the downside...
according to his is... his touch screen works half the time.... something about working on a full charge... or not working on a full charge... and when its halfway charged... it does the opposite... etc etc...
he said the screen lights up just does not respond to the touches under the above mentioned conditions.
i did a search over here and HOFO.... and have noticed alot of people have problems with the top right corner of the screen (portrait) being stuck and closing out apps.... or launching the start menu repetedly...
and there isnt really a fix?....
is 50$ still a good deal?.... will a replacement screen and digitizer fix it?.... which is around another $50 i believe?
or should i buy one from ebay... they are selling for around 170-200$ shipped.... or is this a problem that plagues all 8525 hermes eventually?.. and i shouldnt bother with this model... and go back to the wizard or get something else?
The Hermes is a really great phone (I passed on getting a Kaiser, as it didn't offer enough of an upgrade), but I don't know if I would personally buy one in that's having issues like that.
50 bucks isn't bad, though. I might bite for that price.
I've had no screen issues over the last 1 1/2 years. I just saw a used 8525 sell for $181 on ebay...it's a great scalable device!
Alright.. i got a hold of the phone.....
everything seems great.... touchscreen was working... but as soon as i went to charge the battery.... and took it off charge once it was filled up to 80%, the touch screen stopped responding...
and i also did a hard reset ... and the screen still isnt responding.... and i cant pass green setup screen that asks me to tap the screen to continue.
any way to bypass this screen?... i dont mind using the phone with only the buttons...
and do you think this is battery related?.... the prev. owner said something about... leaving the battery to cool over night... and pop it back in... and touchscreen should respond again....
any suggestions?... thank you.
Find the program "Remote Screen Alignment". If you can get the Hermes to screen alignment to work, you can save the settings to your pc then if you reflash an os or have to hard reset you don't need the touchscreen. Try taking the battery out overnight and see if you can do the alignment then. Once past the screen alignment you can operate the Hermes using the buttons BUT you need to first get past the alignment settings.
Alternatively, if you know someone with the same Hermes you can get the Alignment settings off their phone. You need the above app.
Cheers...
if your looking for a screen, i have a screen complete with digitiser for sale? PERFECTLY working
i can also throw in a ribbon cable which works but only displays colours in 4bit mode!
PM me if you want the screen
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Find the program "Remote Screen Alignment". If you can get the Hermes to screen alignment to work, you can save the settings to your pc then if you reflash an os or have to hard reset you don't need the touchscreen. Try taking the battery out overnight and see if you can do the alignment then. Once past the screen alignment you can operate the Hermes using the buttons BUT you need to first get past the alignment settings.
Alternatively, if you know someone with the same Hermes you can get the Alignment settings off their phone. You need the above app.
Cheers...
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well its not even the screen alignment screen that im stuck at....
when you do a hardboot.... the FIRST splash screen that shows up after the ATT stuff
its a green screen that says windows mobile DIRECT PUSH... and it says
"please tap the screen to continue etc etc"
will that program help me get past that?....
and the battery is out of the case right now... and im in school..., hopefully by the time i get back home it should work.
duke_stix said:
if your looking for a screen, i have a screen complete with digitiser for sale? PERFECTLY working
i can also throw in a ribbon cable which works but only displays colours in 4bit mode!
PM me if you want the screen
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well... i see that you live in the UK... it might not be favorable purchasing it from you...
and tihs ribbon cable that you speak of.... do i need one for the isntalation of the screen?... and the one you have isnt made for this phone right?
Alright guys... so pretty much what the previous owner says checks out..
the phones touchscreen started responding to touches on a cold battery that was sitting for a few hours....
as soon as i begin to charge and the batter warms up... or the phone warms up.. im not sure... the touchpad stops responding.
ANY SUGGESTIONS?...
is this an issue with the battery or the touchscreen?...
aside from that.... this phone is fantastic!
Hi there
I am in the UK, and the screen has in fact been removed from a cingular 8525 i cannabilised for the d-pad board, the screen works perfectly and the ribbon cable will of course fit your phone.
I am willing to ship to the USA, and in fact i regularly do, only recently i just sold a little rubber dust cap for the hermes on these forums and its on his way to him right now. if you can pay via paypal your more than welcome!
Not the battery. The battery only supplies power to the mainboard and through that to the lcd. If the battery was at fault then you wouldn't be able to start up. It sounds like you may have heat problems with either the lcd ribbon or with with the flex ribbon connecting the top part of your phone to the mainboard. If I was you I'd check out Mike Channon's site as he is the MASTER of Hermes hardware and if you don't find a solution you can PM him. Heres a link to his site - http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/
Cheers...
id buy it and sell the parts on ebay
Hey guys, my freind had a sprint Vogue and the touch screen quit working so he gave it to me. Every thing works fine but that. Iv hard reset, reflashed,tried to operate it through MyMobiler, banged it on the computer desk. Nothing works. any ideas or do I just have a new paper weight? Hes already went to sprint and said he lost it and got a new one so sprint will be no help. I really just wanted it for a genuia pig. but its no use when its stuck at the setup screen.
Thanks
Had this problem before, I remember turning the power on, trying the screen, turning it off, on trying again and etc... it worked after a few rigorous tries.
Iv turned it on and off probably 100 times and still no luck. plus the hard reset and reflash
You could try replacing the screen with a spare part from...somewhere. Not much more I can say, that's about as far as my knowledge goes.
Thanks, Im hoping it dont come to that
Sounds like a dead digitizer. You're going to have to either find a new digitizer and going through the hassle of replacing it or replace the entire screen.
which part is the digitizer. I had the same problem with my vogue and bought a part off ebay which i was 99% sure was the problem. its the small electrical board underneath the dpad. There is a connection that the ribbon from the outer screen connects too.. Does anyone know where i can find a replacement for that part. The one I got from ebay looked exactly like the one from my vogue but when i plugged it in it would cause my phone to shut off. They said it was for the GSM touch not the CDMA
touchscreen was working today morning, took battery out for 2 hours, turned it back on and it was working abit weird, and now i cant press any touchscreen buttons atall!
So no softkeys (pick call, home etc.) and nothining on the big screen! I can turn on the phone, press the power button and volume buttons, see my home screen get calls etc.. hard reset twice, took battery out, nothing does it .. gonna try flash it but dont think itll do it ... and ideas?
Im in uk aswell if that makes a diff
Dear All,
I have similar problem. Usuallí I use on my HD NRG ROM. About 3 weeks ago I updated to the latest NRG WM 6.5 23xxx ROM with Sense 2.5 Maxmanila version, and since this upgrade the touch screen position moving randomized up or down from 2 mm to 30mm!!! After this ROM I tryed updating each newer version, but not changed nothing. I need realign the screen about 10 times / day!!! The phone I never dropped or cracked.
Can help me somebody what happened with my HD?
I had this happen to me yesterday. I was surfing on my phone as per the norm. Put my phone down. Got a txt, picked it up and it wouldnt allow me to access it. I thought it must be a freeze as it has happened occasionally.
So I restarted.............and nothing. No response AT ALL from the touch screen.
I have noticed the oily spot problem on the most part of my screen, and thescreen doesnt have that little give it used to when using it (paranoia possibly)
So I can only assume something has given within the screen. Ive been searching all day on the internet for causes and fixes but nothing has come up.
The volume and power buttons work but I cant do anything at all with the phone as its obviously all touch based.
Is this a screen replacement job then or is the whole phone goosed?
Roheelshah if you turn your phone off do you have the massive oily screen thing?
Any help is most appreciated....
I had the same thing, a oily spot, but it was there for months, then i noticed another new spot (looked like a tiny tiny burn) and thats when it stopped working completely... ive ordered a new screen which should be comming in a few days, im hoping thats the issue
will let you know if it works ....
keep me updated if you find anything
thanks!
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I had this happen to me yesterday. I was surfing on my phone as per the norm. Put my phone down. Got a txt, picked it up and it wouldnt allow me to access it. I thought it must be a freeze as it has happened occasionally.
So I restarted.............and nothing. No response AT ALL from the touch screen.
I have noticed the oily spot problem on the most part of my screen, and thescreen doesnt have that little give it used to when using it (paranoia possibly)
So I can only assume something has given within the screen. Ive been searching all day on the internet for causes and fixes but nothing has come up.
The volume and power buttons work but I cant do anything at all with the phone as its obviously all touch based.
Is this a screen replacement job then or is the whole phone goosed?
Roheelshah if you turn your phone off do you have the massive oily screen thing?
Any help is most appreciated....
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BOLDESH said:
download and install this _HTC Touch HD_TouchHD system.exe
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whats it do? and where from??
I just posted something like this a few days ago, pulled my phone out and screen wouldnt respond, had these marks all over my screen, "swirly marks" as i describe it, very well could be the oily marks you are talking about. you can move them around with your finger right?
anyway, i took my sim out, tryna find a spare phone, couple hours later the marks were gone and screen started working again, touch wood its been fine since.
no idea what happened, but try letting it air out or something
ok basically i received a new digitizer today (the actual touchscreen) ...
i dismantled the whole phone using the service manual and some video some guy made (VERY HELPFUL, if anyone wants it for any reason i can post a link), ok so i got rid of all the top bits, the circuit boards (or watever theyre called)
I got down to just the bezel, lcd and digitizer (dont know what a bezel is, the lcd is where the display actually is and digitizer is directly stuck ontop of that)
Apparently when replacing the screen, htc have made it so that you have to replace all three of those parts instead of individual ones, but you can buy them seperately so i thought i'd hero it.
i poked out the screen from the frame (some chewingum like stuff holding it in) then i started peeling off the digitizer (if you get one and want to try it you'll know where to peel) ... this was a mistake tho cause the lcd is unbelievebly sensitive so while peeling off it left scratches on the lcd, and me not knowing the lcd is sticky tried to wipe them and use a dust free cloth, which left alot of crap on the actual lcd!
i managed to get the digitizer off and ripped the cable that goes from digitizer to whatever reads our fingers on the screen, took it all off, placed the new one directly ontop and fed the wire exactly how it was for the first screen.
Put it all together again
Now I did mess up my screen badly, but in a good way! .. i now have full touchscreen working (smoother than ever) but my LCD display is near enough gone, so it looks like the screens really really dark, and i have to tilt it at certain angles to see the screen..
After all of this i now have a touch hd i can controll from my pc (using mymobiler) so i can recieve calls, send texts all from my pc when connected thru active sync, can even play teeter ... but not really the same!
I wouldnt recomend anyone to try what i did, although i think its worth the risk as I would have to replace the lcd anyways if i wanted a new screen in the first place... and who knows you might be able to peel the digitizer off clean (NEVER EVER EVER TOUCH LCD WITH ANYTHING!!!).
It all cost me around 10-15£ for the digitizer and screwdrivers and alot of hours dismantling phone compared to 50-100£ for a new lcd.
I am either going to get a new lcd now so i can actually see the screen, or get a new phone.
Sorry for the essay but hopefully this helps someone in any similar situation
if i do get a new lcd will post how it goes and if it sorts out everything
if anyone knows of any other reasons why my lcd would be so dim (brightness is 100%) accept for me getting carried away with it ... help would be appreciated
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I just posted something like this a few days ago, pulled my phone out and screen wouldnt respond, had these marks all over my screen, "swirly marks" as i describe it, very well could be the oily marks you are talking about. you can move them around with your finger right?
anyway, i took my sim out, tryna find a spare phone, couple hours later the marks were gone and screen started working again, touch wood its been fine since.
no idea what happened, but try letting it air out or something
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Yeah swirly oil marks is how myne started ... i think i finished off the screen by trying to press hard on the mark to try and clear it .. . so be careful with it.. but think that overall the screen had seen better days (course only a few weeks after warrenty finishes) ... all conections inside were ok aswell
doczyus said:
Dear All,
I have similar problem. Usuallí I use on my HD NRG ROM. About 3 weeks ago I updated to the latest NRG WM 6.5 23xxx ROM with Sense 2.5 Maxmanila version, and since this upgrade the touch screen position moving randomized up or down from 2 mm to 30mm!!! After this ROM I tryed updating each newer version, but not changed nothing. I need realign the screen about 10 times / day!!! The phone I never dropped or cracked.
Can help me somebody what happened with my HD?
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Same here. Touch screen not working. Phone never flashed, droped,...
Any solution?
unfortunately, a friend of mine changed the touchscreen without success. Phone was in perfect state, no drop, no flash. Just the touch not responding. I'm not sure that changing whole part lcd+digitizer solve the problem.
Hi all!
I've got similar problem with my touch HD. It's stock since I bought it. My touch sense was acting weird, like it wasn't properly calibrated. Like, when I press 7 on phone pad, the phone actually presses 1, and if I press 0, phone presses 5 and so on..
I've tried to align the screen, but it doesn't get aligned the first time. I have to repeat the process about 4 times before it gets aligned. That's good for about few minutes and the problem is back. Hard reset was also done, 2 times.
Could this be a fixed with a software update? Does this mean that digitizer will soon be dead?
Thank you for your help
Regards
igothtc2 said:
Hi all!
I've got similar problem with my touch HD. It's stock since I bought it. My touch sense was acting weird, like it wasn't properly calibrated. Like, when I press 7 on phone pad, the phone actually presses 1, and if I press 0, phone presses 5 and so on..
I've tried to align the screen, but it doesn't get aligned the first time. I have to repeat the process about 4 times before it gets aligned. That's good for about few minutes and the problem is back. Hard reset was also done, 2 times.
Could this be a fixed with a software update? Does this mean that digitizer will soon be dead?
Thank you for your help
Regards
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use ScreenCal to fix it, hopefully it can help you
Hakim Rahman said:
use ScreenCal to fix it, hopefully it can help you
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Hi!
I've successfuly installed the cab file on my phone's sd card, but the problem is still there. I don't know where the installed files are, do I have to run this application?
Thank you for your help!
Regards
igothtc2 said:
Hi!
I've successfuly installed the cab file on my phone's sd card, but the problem is still there. I don't know where the installed files are, do I have to run this application?
Thank you for your help!
Regards
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have you hard reset the device after installing the cab file ?? if not do it and see if there are changes...
Hakim Rahman said:
have you hard reset the device after installing the cab file ?? if not do it and see if there are changes...
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Just did the hard reset. When it asked me to align the screen, I just couldn't align the top left corner. I had to press it like 50 times before cross went to the lower corner. Otherwise, after the align it's good for about couple of seconds and then it's just pressing all over.
I thought I had just some software issues because the screen wasn't dead, it responded to my touch. So, I'll probably have to buy a new screen and digitizer, right? Or do you have any other ideas?
Thank you again for your help!
Regards
firstly screencal installs calibration settings not for blackstone so do not install it, no point. (btw it also increases device touch sensitivity)
secondly you guys should try and install the calibration settings for blackstone, basicly what the align screen does, not sure where to find them for download but i could post the registrys if someone wants to make a .cab from them. (atm i cba making the .cab but i am able to do it )
if the calibration settings do not work i think it is best to buy a new lcd package (or buy new device and give me old one for spares oj)
Rn
hi buddy ! What you mean GSensorCalibrator ??
i didnt mention anything about gsensor calibration dude.
tried and tested screencal the other week and it screwed my blackstone.
install these instead:
*screen calibration, sets the blackstone touch points: (aligning the screen)
if you install a cab with these registrys it should fix the alignment problem.
(if it doesnt then its hardware issue = lcd etc)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH]
"MaxCalError"=dword:8
"CalibrationData"="511,542 183,881 183,198 834,197 833,880"
*this one will maximise the touch sensitivity for those that want it:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel]
"PressureThreshold"=dword:0
Rn
Does anyone have a recommendation where you can buy a digitizer and lcd from?