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do eneybodey cnown wher i turn off so my qtek 9000 do not stom using my sd card when the battery is low, it is reley irritating i olways ned to install all my impothen programs on internal space so i can esses it when the battery is low :-/
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eney hellp?
Once windows detects the battery is lower than 10% (i think) it will shut down the sd card slot no matter what! so in answer to your question I dont think you can turn the card slot on
no when it is 10% it onley turns of SD-card acsses and w-lan and i beliv blue to, its okey if it turn of blue and w-lan but not sd-card, it most exist reg hack so can fix so it dont stop acsses to card
ratcom said:
Once windows detects the battery is lower than 10% (i think) it will shut down the sd card slot no matter what! so in answer to your question I dont think you can turn the card slot on
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Yes, It will turn the Blue on and WLAN/SD off..... Researching into the REG I roughly and do not have found something related to the 'Wirless Mnager ', where I believe have the shut down function...
Anybody have a clue
JUlius
I've thought about this in the past, but have been too busy to play with the idea. It depends on which takes priority, the OS power saving features, or the OS power settings, but this should let it stay on whatever the circumstances:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...y/en-us/wceddk40/html/cerefsetdevicepower.asp
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Anyone having any battery drain issues at all? My wizard only lasts 12 hours till it dies on me. Even if it's on standby for the whole 12 hours.
This is obviously abnormal. I want to see how many of you in here have this problem, or if it's just me. I have replace a new wizard (from the same store), and this problem still persists..and i have also tried using a new battery with the same result.
I recently came across this program on this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45168&start=25
B_uptime which records your usage time. The you are using your phone the processing time will be incremented, when you have it on stanby the idle time will be incremented. But with my phone no matter if am using it or if it's on standby, only the processing time is incremented.
I am suspecting this is the cause for the battery drain. Can people with or without this problem try this out please? And see if the idle time increment when you put the phone on standby?
Hoping to get some feedbacks. Thank you so much!
See this big thread here with people who have similar problems. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45601
I personally have my battery standby set at 2 mins.
jpflaw00 posted an interesting observation in the b_uptime thread too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45168&start=25
Try to remove the memory card and see if the phone still refuses to "idle".
I am making a new topic, to get a survey on howmany ppl are having this problem and if they have their's fixed.
I have tried pulling out the SD card, but the idle time still won't count, and this is my 2nd wizard.....so I am pretty screwed....I just don't know why....
ppl please post your comments and fix thx
ok, I have just tried pulling the SD card out, and it KINDA works! It only works when I take the card out, and let it turn itself off after 1 minute. If I manually press the power button, and then turn it back on again, the idel time still will not increment.
Did you just let it go on standby or did you also tried pressing the power button? So I guess the problem is not fixed for me.
I am using a Kingcap 1gb Mini SD, what about you guys?
How about people with battery issues state the brand, size, etc. of memory card if used. Otherwise people should state if they have a battery problem even if they don't use a memory card. Let's narrow it down to see if the issue really is the card :!:
jpflaw00, so does the counter still work for you if you press push the power button, and then turning it back on after 1 minute?
Want to know if I am the only one having this problem.
I had the mem card out since yesterday @ 3, fullly charged, and I didn't press the power button, letting it turn itself off, after almost 24 hours, it's @ 50%, so very good....but very inconvenient......and I do want to press the power button.
OK, I confirm, my phone finally works with the SD card out.
When the SD card is in, the idel counter stops working.
So we have narrowed the problem down to being some kinda of problem with some brand of SD card, OR simply the SD Card Slot.
I am using a Kingston 1gb. Really want to try a Sandisk and see the result.
Well this will blow your mind.... i DONT have a Memory Card, and yet my Vario battery lasts 1 day tops without charge. No WiFi, no GPRS, no BT, no IrDA, no Crazy Today Plugins.
gazzrenn, you have a more serious problem than me.....did you try hard resettting it and not install anything? and what rom are you on?
OK, I CONFIRM, THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE SD CARD! It is a problem with the SD CARD SLOT! I tried putting in a blank card (The piece of plastic that came with the phone), and the counter stops working, so there must be something wrong with the sd card slot..when something is inserted it keeps the phone running...
omg..anyone having this problem?
Hey jpflaw00, any news on your Wizard?
Does your battery still drain? Have you tried putting in the Plastic thingee in the slot and see if it still drains?
Thx/
well as far as i can tell no...i haven't really noticed anything...to me it seems as if the battery is fine, but i haven't really been testing it out...i think i have better battery life now, but i'm not too sure...i recently upgraded my rom, but maybe the problem has to do with phonealarm or something that keeps transmitting info back and from the memory card...but if you are having battery problems without a memory card, then i suggest trying the new roms out to see if this fixes any issues you are having...my suggestion is the mobiz edition i am using right now...if i'm right i'm getting better battery life, but then again i could be wrong...just try it out...anyways i will charge my phone as soon as this cycle is done...then i will examine the phone battery stats, and then i'll get back to ya...good luck!
hello eveyone. anyone know how to disable Auto-Play of SD Cards. only turn it on when we need it. cuz it eat up too much battery. my battery drain 4% per hr with SD in. and 2 % without SD. WITH OUT any use. and NO BT, Wifi or anything. only date and message on today screen.
any help to get my phone last a lit longer. thank you so much.
the micro SD card!
i checked it twice overnight and during the day.. so i can say that for sure!
I own a Samsung micro SD 8gb class 6..
Night 1: lost 35 % in 7 hours with SD in it, constant data connection with hourly updates
Day 1: lost about 54 % in 8 with SD in it, constant data con. , hourly updates, some calls,texts & browsing in Opera
Night 2: same conditions as night 1 but without SD card.. lost 7 %
Day 2: nearly same conditions as day 1 but without SD card.. lost 27 %
Now a question: are sandisk cards better? i really need a new 1 cause my samsung's ****ed up!
Hope i could help someone with this..
Use BsB Tweaker which can enable power saver for SD Card.
And keep in mind that Battery lose first half capacity very fast and then stay on long time on the level 30-40-50.
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Henry_Lee said:
Use BsB Tweaker which can enable power saver for SD Card.
And keep in mind that Battery lose first half capacity very fast and then stay on long time on the level 30-40-50.
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In my case it's the exact opposite, power loss from 100%-50% is slow, below 50% it can go empty within 7 hours in STANDBY (reproducible). Thanks for the advice with BsB Tweaker.
PS: I have a sandisk 16gb class 2.
you mean the power saving option? it's enanled since the first day..
i know that with the first half but the sd card is really killing me! currently working outside so im in need of the radio.. with sd card in it and running fm radio, battery drainage is about 19 % per hour.. thats not even a bad joke anymore, its realy frustrating!
thank god that i have electricity here
That can't be right. Must be a rogue application. I have a 16 GB card and the phone never loses more than 1-2% (radio off) during the night.
must be my samsung card.. apps are all closed over night!
i got tomtom,navigon,some music & games on my card.. no idea
Formaty sd card and try again.
Must be some application installed on sd or some problem with the sd card itself
Ill try it when im at home!
is there an alternative for the built in fm radio? tried listening without sd.. same result 3 % loss in 10 mins! how can a dumb radio use so much battery?
i remember listening radio with my nokia e90.. listend for hours with minimal battery loss
It makes sense to me, thats why I was saying this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5230146&postcount=10
Any fellows here are using the A-data class 6 16gb and dose not affect the battery life? I'd like to ask this again.
Thanks in advance.
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is there an alternative for the built in fm radio? tried listening without sd.. same result 3 % loss in 10 mins!
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I tried mine too, and I lost 4% in 10 minutes, but that was with the screen on. I then turned off the radio and lost 3% in 10 minutes with the screen on, but not doing anything (other than usual-for-my-phone background tasks). I then turned the radio back on and turned the screen off, and it used less than 1% in 10 minutes (I say less than 1% because the indicator had not changed.)
To me, that says that (in my case) the battery killer is the screen, which I can accept because I have it lit very high (I just don't like it dim.)
pedmond said:
That can't be right. Must be a rogue application. I have a 16 GB card and the phone never loses more than 1-2% (radio off) during the night.
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Please tell me you are talking about the Sandisk 16GB class2
johncmolyneux said:
I tried mine too, and I lost 4% in 10 minutes, but that was with the screen on. I then turned off the radio and lost 3% in 10 minutes with the screen on, but not doing anything (other than usual-for-my-phone background tasks). I then turned the radio back on and turned the screen off, and it used less than 1% in 10 minutes (I say less than 1% because the indicator had not changed.)
To me, that says that (in my case) the battery killer is the screen, which I can accept because I have it lit very high (I just don't like it dim.)
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screen off,radio on.. still 3% in 10 min.
my screen is on 20 % light .. i also would like to set it to 100% but i dont want the battery to be empty before i can type in the pin
waxfresh said:
screen off,radio on.. still 3% in 10 min.
my screen is on 20 % light .. i also would like to set it to 100% but i dont want the battery to be empty before i can type in the pin
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The only major thing I'm considering changing, to see if it has any effect, is my windows live config. I currently have my sync frequency set to "as soon as it arrives", which requires a constant data connection (before that starts a flame war, please read this.) I'm gonna turn that off and see if it improves, but I still think the screen is my big problem.
TheGodfather-GF said:
In my case it's the exact opposite, power loss from 100%-50% is slow, below 50% it can go empty within 7 hours in STANDBY (reproducible). Thanks for the advice with BsB Tweaker.
PS: I have a sandisk 16gb class 2.
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Sounds like you need to recalibrate the "remaining-charge-estimate-circuit-thingy" in your HD2's battery. Drain battery to as near as nothing as possible and fully charge it without unplugging it (I have heard its suggested to do this with the device off). Might work straight off the first time, might take a couple goes.
Do not leave the device below 20% charge for any long period of time as it can cause problems with the Li-Ion battery.
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The only major thing I'm considering changing, to see if it has any effect, is my windows live config. I currently have my sync frequency set to "as soon as it arrives", which requires a constant data connection (before that starts a flame war, please read this.) I'm gonna turn that off and see if it improves, but I still think the screen is my big problem.
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my live sync is off.. useing gmail with the built in mail app, updateing hourly
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my live sync is off.. useing gmail with the built in mail app, updateing hourly
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I'm gonna try it on mine and see if I have any improvement anyway. I'm sure we have different things running on our devices. I'm just trying to narrow things down before removing the SD card to see if that does anything.
SD Card is one of the factor
To my sense, if a lot of softwares in installed in your SD Card, then definitely the battery will deplete rapidly.
I install all 3G-constant-data-softwares in the system memory, not card. Those not required CONSTANT 3G data connection and not to be running 24/7 will be installed in SD card (eg. 1-Calc, TCPMP, Lexisgoo, Resco Explorer).
So far, with the stock ROM and related softwares (installed at "right" locations) gives me average 1 full day battery juice having 25% balance. And again, battery consumption is a very very subjective topic. SD card IS definitely one of the battery earter.
I have not tested the following in a very detailed way but I think it worth while trying it:
Even so I have used the power saving tweak from BsB Tweak I found in sk Tools in tuneup that all Power Saving features are switched off.
So I switched On all Power saving features in sk Tools and I have the feeling that the battery usage is less now.
For example:
From midnight full 100% charge till 8am in the morning I had 89% left which is a little bit more than 1% loss per hour and this is not bad.
But with the new Radio 2.06 I have the feeling that battery power is getting more drained during a talk or during interent connection.
On the other side the reception is quite good and I have also the feeling that data connection is better - receiving data faster after a connection is established.
Again: This are all "soft" fatcs I have not done a sientific evaluation
I have a San Disk 16GByte Class 6 storage card.
Best regards,
dingolino
Hi, are you sure that your micro sd is a sandisk class 6? cuz I've never found Sandisk has released a class 6 16GB microcard..thats why I had to buy the A-data one.
The only software I have installed in the storge card is a GPS software IGO8.
This battery issue is driving me crazy, I begin to miss my HTC HD(original 1.43 ROM) which drops only 2%(My hd2 loses about 40% power) every night, even I always have kept my data connection on.
dingolino said:
I have a San Disk 16GByte Class 6 storage card.
Best regards,
dingolino
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My personal battery killer is 3G. I have downloaded 100Mb in 5 minutes and have lost around 5% of my battery
Daniel
I think I have a problem with the battery drain of my HD2 wjen in standby mode: as you can see from the attached log it never goes lower than -75mA, even with pushmail off...
It started like this with CHT 2.0 installed... could it be?
Yeah, CHT could be a reason, some stock ROMs seem to be a bit critical for this great piece of software.
Plus, it can also depend on what extensions and widgets you added to CHT...
After all, not so easy to find out. My HD2 runs like 2 days at normal usage (some phone usage, some texting, some mail sync over wlan, sometimes even with some navigation).
Please also make sure to try different Radio ROMs... or re-flash, or whatever. You´ll find several threads here with similar issues and various solutions and ideas.
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Yeah, CHT could be a reason, some stock ROMs seem to be a bit critical for this great piece of software.
Plus, it can also depend on what extensions and widgets you added to CHT...
After all, not so easy to find out. My HD2 runs like 2 days at normal usage (some phone usage, some texting, some mail sync over wlan, sometimes even with some navigation).
Please also make sure to try different Radio ROMs... or re-flash, or whatever. You´ll find several threads here with similar issues and various solutions and ideas.
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yeah but why would CHT affect battery life when in standby? I am worried about the -75mA drainage in standby mode...
thegios said:
yeah but why would CHT affect battery life when in standby? I am worried about the -75mA drainage in standby mode...
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CHT in itself does not consume much power (if at all), I have CHT 2.0, and idle consumption is in 2-8 mA range (with GPRS and pushmail working).
Maybe you have some of the CHT monitoring widgets active?
If so, I'd suggest checking power consumption with those widgets turned off,
or even checking what is the power consumption without Sense
p107r0 said:
CHT in itself does not consume much power (if at all), I have CHT 2.0, and idle consumption is in 2-8 mA range (with GPRS and pushmail working).
Maybe you have some of the CHT monitoring widgets active?
If so, I'd suggest checking power consumption with those widgets turned off,
or even checking what is the power consumption without Sense
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I have no monitoring widgets..
Could it be that I turned on the bluetooth discovering mode in cht editor? What does this option do exactly?
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Could it be that I turned on the bluetooth discovering mode in cht editor? What does this option do exactly?
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rather not, discoverable mode means normal bluetooth operation, except that your presence is not hidden from other devices (more info in wiki here)
as for the power consumption, it's definitely too high,
you seem to use some battery logging app, does it also show the current in real time?
if not, you could install BattClock, to check what the mA level after you wake the device from idle state (just to have second opinion/confirmation)
besides that you can either search this forum for some hints (the problem was raised several times), and/or start searching for the reason by elimination (check mA usage w/o Sense, try turning off the auto update of services like weather, contacts, FX etc.), check list of running processes with the Dotfred's Task Manager - trying to find which may be unnecessary
thegios said:
I think I have a problem with the battery drain of my HD2 wjen in standby mode: as you can see from the attached log it never goes lower than -75mA, even with pushmail off...
It started like this with CHT 2.0 installed... could it be?
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Hi,
when was the last time you formatted your SD card? A malfunctioning/severely defragmented SD card can cause a huge battery drainage. I'm pretty sure that this is your main problem. To solve it, follow this way:
1. Shut down device and remove SD Card
2. Insert SD Card into Card reader and insert to PC. Wait untill you see the Windows screen that says: automatically play/open this device and choose open folders.
3. Backup the content of your Card to a self named folder on your PC
4. Click another station than the SD card
5. Go back to SC card and right click it and choose formatting (slow mode)
6. After finishing this formatting, safely remove the Card from your PC and reinsert into device.
7. Boot device and format SD Card again with SD formatting tool (Windows - Tools - SD Formatting Tool).
8. Take out SD card and reinsert in PC and restore data fromm the self named folder.
9. Reinsert SD card in device and soft reset.
Done
regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
Hi,
when was the last time you formatted your SD card? A malfunctioning/severely defragmented SD card can cause a huge battery drainage. I'm pretty sure that this is your main problem. To solve it, follow this way:
1. Shut down device and remove SD Card
2. Insert SD Card into Card reader and insert to PC. Wait untill you see the Windows screen that says: automatically play/open this device and choose open folders.
3. Backup the content of your Card to a self named folder on your PC
4. Click another station than the SD card
5. Go back to SC card and right click it and choose formatting (slow mode)
6. After finishing this formatting, safely remove the Card from your PC and reinsert into device.
7. Boot device and format SD Card again with SD formatting tool (Windows - Tools - SD Formatting Tool).
8. Take out SD card and reinsert in PC and restore data fromm the self named folder.
9. Reinsert SD card in device and soft reset.
Done
regards, Kuzibri
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Hi,
I have alreday tried that with no benefit... Only difference was that I formatted it diurectly into phone, skipping step 5: why do I need to format SD card on pc as well, before formatting on phone?
BTW, why would the SD card drain the phone while in standby?
I have also tried disabling sense and monitoring again, and still I have a fixed -75mA drain in standby...
Here's a list of running processes:
manila
tmail
JBlendDaemon > what is this?
CommManager
battclock > this was installed already before having batt problems
BTTrayCE
alarmPal > this was installed already before having batt problems
poutlook
cprog
connmgr
services
shell32
gwes > what is this?
device
filesys
NK > what is this?
thegios said:
Hi,
I have alreday tried that with no benefit... Only difference was that I formatted it diurectly into phone, skipping step 5: why do I need to format SD card on pc as well, before formatting on phone?
BTW, why would the SD card drain the phone while in standby?
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A SD Card uses enery/battery power, when SD card dysfunctions or contains errors or is heavily defragmented, they all can lead to several severe problems, f.i. a huge battery drain even in standby.
The reason why you have to format your SD card first in PC, is that the Windows PC formatting tool does a very much more thorough job than then device's one (only compare the time they need to finish this process!!) and erases the Card totally whilst also repairing posssible errors or skipping and excluding bad sectors. So skipping this and only using device tool might not solve you're problem. The formatting afterwards with device's tool is only meant to prepare the card for the device's system. So, if I were you I would format SD Card with PC first and monitor battery usage. Be not surprised when the usage diminishes a lot.
regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
A SD Card uses enery/battery power, when SD card dysfunctions or contains errors or is heavily defragmented, they all can lead to several severe problems, f.i. a huge battery drain even in standby.
The reason why you have to format your SD card first in PC, is that the Windows PC formatting tool does a very much more thorough job than then device's one (only compare the time they need to finish this process!!) and erases the Card totally whilst also repairing posssible errors or skipping and excluding bad sectors. So skipping this and only using device tool might not solve you're problem. The formatting afterwards with device's tool is only meant to prepare the card for the device's system. So, if I were you I would format SD Card with PC first and monitor battery usage. Be not surprised when the usage diminishes a lot.
regards, Kuzibri
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ok thanks: i have done that and now will monitor usage...
by the way, i am using BatLog: is this a good tool?
thegios said:
ok thanks: i have done that and now will monitor usage...
by the way, i am using BatLog: is this a good tool?
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AFAIK, yes it is.
regards, Kuzibri
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AFAIK, yes it is.
regards, Kuzibri
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then just to verify that I use it in the proper way:
- I launch batlog
- I set interval to 10 seconds
- I set the log name
- I start the log
- I minimize batlog
- I turn off the screen
is this correct?
thegios said:
then just to verify that I use it in the proper way:
- I launch batlog
- I set interval to 10 seconds
- I set the log name
- I start the log
- I minimize batlog
- I turn off the screen
is this correct?
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yes, it is.
regards, Kuzibri
How are you doing battery wise?
regards, Kuzibri
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How are you doing battery wise?
regards, Kuzibri
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I am still doing a few tests: ALL ON, ALL OFF, DATA OFF, DATA ON BUT PUSHMAIL OFF.
Then i wanna try with SD out, just to exclude SD.
My real problem is that overnight, with data on but pushmail off, it drain 20% in 8 hours... way too much...
thegios said:
I am still doing a few tests: ALL ON, ALL OFF, DATA OFF, DATA ON BUT PUSHMAIL OFF.
Then i wanna try with SD out, just to exclude SD.
My real problem is that overnight, with data on but pushmail off, it drain 20% in 8 hours... way too much...
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You are absolutely right on that, this drainage is far too much. My overnight drainage in standby mode (so connection data on) is max 3-4%. If drainage without SD card is far less then now, I would advice you to buy a new one because either it's severely damaged or corrupt, even after formatting.
BTW, do not worry too much about Battlog, just look at your battery% that you have left over after a certain amount of time.
Good luck and regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
You are absolutely right on that, this drainage is far too much. My overnight drainage in standby mode (so connection data on) is max 3-4%. If drainage without SD card is far less then now, I would advice you to buy a new one because either it's severely damaged or corrupt, even after formatting.
BTW, do not worry too much about Battlog, just look at your battery% that you have left over after a certain amount of time.
Good luck and regards, Kuzibri
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OK,
after two tests (but I'd like to do a few more)...
-1- GSM ON, DATA ON, PUSMAIL OFF, SD IN, NO ACTIVITY AT ALL
23:00 @ 50%
07:30 @ 15%
lost 35% in 8.5h that is 4.1% per h
-2- GSM ON, DATA ON, PUSMAIL OFF, SD IN, 2 CALLS and 10 MINS BROWSING in 3G
10:00 @ 100%
19:00 @ 80%
lost 20% in 9h that is 2.2% per h
So for the moment it looks like it's the SD, but I'll try again tonight removing the SD while the phone is in stand by with no activity (same conditions as test 1)
thegios said:
OK,
after two tests (but I'd like to do a few more)...
-1- GSM ON, DATA ON, PUSMAIL OFF, SD IN, NO ACTIVITY AT ALL
23:00 @ 50%
07:30 @ 15%
lost 35% in 8.5h that is 4.1% per h
-2- GSM ON, DATA ON, PUSMAIL OFF, SD IN, 2 CALLS and 10 MINS BROWSING in 3G
10:00 @ 100%
19:00 @ 80%
lost 20% in 9h that is 2.2% per h
So for the moment it looks like it's the SD, but I'll try again tonight removing the SD while the phone is in stand by with no activity (same conditions as test 1)
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Bad news... 28% in 10 hours overnight, with SD out and pushmail off.
Cannot be sd at this point... Could it be that after 1 year and 3 months the battery is already dying? This would explain the -75mA drain when in standby.
What's strange is that now I'm charging the batt and ir went from 41% to 57% in 15 minutes...
thegios said:
Bad news... 28% in 10 hours overnight, with SD out and pushmail off.
Cannot be sd at this point... Could it be that after 1 year and 3 months the battery is already dying? This would explain the -75mA drain when in standby.
What's strange is that now I'm charging the batt and ir went from 41% to 57% in 15 minutes...
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so, 10h overnight, SD IN but DATA CONNECTION DISABLED and it went from 100% to 95%...
I guess this means only two things: it's not the SD, teher must be something which uses the data connection constantly... how can I find it out?
PS: weather is set every 3 hours, facebook every 2 hours, nothing else...