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When I boot my device I usually have 18.something mb spare ram, with pocket plus and spb diary running, but nothing else. For some reason when I look at my phone later, having done nothing with it, I have less spare ram, and it keeps reducing down to 3 or 4 mb.. is this a known problem? and is there a solution?
Don't bother to give important info such as which (of the thousands) of Rom versions you are running or if you have verified that Activesync (notorious memory consumer) didn't get started somewhere and the list goes on..
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Don't bother to give important info such as which (of the thousands) of Rom versions you are running or if you have verified that Activesync (notorious memory consumer) didn't get started somewhere and the list goes on..
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I think someone needs to tear themselves away from the computer, and get some fresh air :roll:
Hi fuel - yes been reported a memory leak with those spb products, try uninstalling them and introduce them one at a time to see which the culprit is. Some users have switched to sbsh products and found the memory problems better.
If you have not switched to an up to date rom - that will help.
To stop activesync keep running in the background and using up resources see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=52431
btw I have 25mb after soft reset and I have calendar +. phone profiles. sbsh pocket weather, dktoday installed - so it is possible to get more free ram. (if you use cache tweaks try decreasing the size of them as well)
fuel925 what ROM are you using? My original 1.8.11 ROM always (Still does) have a memory leak somewhere. It will boot at 23 MB and even with nothing running, a few days later it will be at 18 MB...still nothing running.
Summiter's AKU2.3 ROM however, doesn't have this memory leak problem. When I was running it, I never had a memory leak problem; always stayed at 22 MB. I reverted back to 1.8.11 though, like that ROM more for various reasons I'm not going to bother stating because it's an entirely different subject than your post lol :lol:
Thanks for the replies! I updated to the latest t-mobile uk rom a couple of days ago, the problem was occuring before, and is still happening :? Ive only just purchased pocket+ and diary, so im reluctant to change to other software. Maybe the next rom update or software update from spb would fix the problem?
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Thanks for the replies! I updated to the latest t-mobile uk rom a couple of days ago, the problem was occuring before, and is still happening :? Ive only just purchased pocket+ and diary, so im reluctant to change to other software. Maybe the next rom update or software update from spb would fix the problem?
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Possible fuel - maybe good idea to browse spb forum - they may have tips and hints or some new betas to try. Do the acyivesync tweak as well certainly helped me.
I know I am going to cause some trouble by asking this but why?
On taking my new Orange SPV M600 out of the box, I have to agree a bit sluggish, but this was mainly due to Windows.
After a little tweaking with the registry and some third party software it is now flying.
I originally thought that putting third party software over the top of the system would slow it even more, but know, the opposite was true. Using the standard windows task bar and start menu was dreadful. I tried a number of third party softwares such as True Toolbar, Handyswitcher etc, finally settling on Wisbar deluxe.
Everything now opens as soon as it is selected no nasty lag like windows. With some skinning and removal of Customised Today the phone looks great and is performing great. That is apart from my wired hands free. I can now answer and close calls with the button, but it does not activate voice dial when pressed, so I can't dial out hands free. All prevoius phones, Nokia and SE did this no problem, so why not this phone?
Anyway, back to the point of ROMS, why keep flashing?
I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.
I can not remember all of the tweaks I used, but there is a big section somewhere in here listing them. I have them somewhere on the computer but my filing is a mess and I can't remember what I called the text file or where I put it.
Basically the tweaks are just simple things like increasing cache size for fonts, programs etc. Moving file storage off main memory to SD card, disabling and enabling etc. It is claimed by doing this that the system will speed up a little. I am not sure if any of these actually did anything or if it is just down to Wisbar. All I can say is that when I click on a program it fires up straight away, before it could take a second or two.
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I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.
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check out this tread and application
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=easy+tweaking
good luck
R
Actually, the rule about flashing is: If it's not broken don't fix it.
People upgrade because they want to get rid of bugs or add features like AKU 2.0 that includes push mail and some other stuff.
Also some brands are better that others in some ways, and worse in other ways. There are several ROMs for the Prophet: Dopod, i-mate, Qtek, Orange. Finally some people cook their own ROMs throwing out useless stuff and adding apps they 'must have'.
All in all if you are pleased with your phone there is no need to change the ROM. When I got my Jamin it had the i-mate 1.xx ROM so I upgraded to 2.13 to get the AKU 2.0 goodies.
I always belive the latest is the greatest, even if its not. I still run the latest. While the release notes say "Added this, fixed that" they also contain a lot of fixes and changes not documented.
Hi all.
Thats actually a very good question. From my experience you dont really need to change anything. Maybe as you said some registry tweaking or some basic settings. However as someone already said, the golden rule should be if it is not broken dont try to fix it.
On the other hand you might want to change things with no reason, just because you can.. and I have to admit that it is hard not to do. Then you have to make sure that you know what you are doing cause otherwise you might end up spending your day in forums try to fix whatever you &^%$ up..
Take care.
Thanks for the replies.
I have to admit, when I first got the phone I started tweaking, then I found this forum and others. Once I discovered unlocking and flashing ROMS, I was very close to doing it. Then I remembered what I used to be like on my PC. With old systems like Win ME, I used to spend about 70% of my time tweaking and fixing, and only 30% actually using the damn thing. Not what I want out of a phone.
Just by messing around with skins, I have already managed to lose my phone dialer all together, I was left with a blank screen, so I had a phone that could not phone. I have it nicely skinned and running now, but I was never able to get the Orange dialer back.
Guess the only time I will flash my ROM is when there is a genuine update and it is covered by warranty, that way if the ROM is bad, Orange can give me another phone.
Thanks
I look at it same way as i look at windows.
My windows isn't broke but I always use Windows Update.
Why do YOU update windows, if you do at all. I guess im not sure if this is advisable, but that's just the way i do it.
Regarding upgrading ROM, MOST of the time, it makes the device faster and adds more features ( i never install extended ROM ) so I always upgrade when there is a new one.
I've downgraded ONCE. And only the RADIO because 1.11 didn't agree with my device.
There are ways to Backup the device, change to a different BRAND/VERISON of ROM then restore the backup. This makes changing ROM very easy.
Anyway, I have nothing better to do with my time so i upgrade whenever a new ROM comes out.
Sorry to but in again but I simply must disagree with the Windows update analogy.
I have my PC set to auto update as well, but Windows XP runs updates in the background and doesn't delete you data in the process.
ROM upgrade means HARD RESET, and unless you have a good backup a long restore process.
Also there is the danger of communication / power interrupt during the flashing and a bricked device as a result.
Finlay, like with your radio ROM, some OS updates have new bugs as well as fixes for the old.
But I do wish it was as simple as updating windows - then I would say, update away, couldn't hurt.
My analogy was based only on the reason for updating, not the process itself that you are stating.
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
Sorry i did not explain that clearly. The guy just asked why update if you are content with what you have.... It has nothing to do with "I would update only if the process were simpler" like what you stated.
Sorry for the misunderstanding
I upgrade because I can cook my own ROM with better application suite
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What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
I think the main point is you dont have to upgrade, you can if you want, its a matter of choice.
I like to always update, some like to keep the same and have never hard reset in their life. Im on my 9th this week :S but it is a new device and im still figuring it all out.
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Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe
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Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe
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I was talking about Windows, not WM5.
My phone came shipped with an AKU2 rom and it's fine - after a little tweaking. I'm not going to risk bricking my pride and joy with a rom upgrade - as so many people have done already on this forum. :wink:
Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!
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Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!
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Look at the top left of this very page and you will see a link to the wiki section of this site. How to flash is in there.
The extended rom is where the operator adds thier own customisations (over and above what M$ provide) to the device, for example Orange and O2 add their own options in there and they install when the device is powered up for the first time or when it's hard reset. If you get access to the extended rom (again look in the wiki) you can manipulate what gets installed and if you're really clever, add some of your own stuff.
Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.
cool, thanks paul
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Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.
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Actually, it is virtually impossible to brick your device by manipulating the contents of the extended ROM. It is only accessed once, during first boot, and event that can be avoided by quickly soft resetting the device.
Basically it acts exactly like "file store" used to on WM 2003 devices, the only difference being it is hidden so ordinary users won't get rid of the operator junk.
In my case it was very nice of i-mate to provide various goodies there like voice dial (should be in ROM) anti virus (not only useless but damaging crap) Skype (could have just downloaded from their site, but nice thought) and backgammon (toys are always welcome).
But now ofter the initial installation it makes all the sense in the world to save these cabs (9MB~) to my PC and have extra 10 MB storage on the device.
Hi there,
My G3 seems to be running out of memory very, very quickly.
I have (S/I)PL 3.08 and it'sme's TNT Pro + HTC Home rom flashed.
Trouble is, having few apps on the machine installed personally (basically Opera and Google Maps) if I start Opera, I get a memory full error and the browser closes.
I've been checking it out, but I can't see the memory status going below 14mb.
Is this a common issue?
Thanks all
Jason
Our Wizards have very small memory & Opera is one of the heaviest browsers.
You are seeing 14mb of free memory because you are checking it with opera closed. Open opera, let it load one ''heavy'' page & then (without closing it) check your available memory. I am sure you will see something beetween 1-3mb .
If you like Opera so much & you don't want to change it then before you use it make a SoftReset so that you will have the most free memory that you can.
I will also suggest you:
1) To move to a newer rom. Ty one of CRACING's or X2H's. They make Roms for every taste.
2) Try Skyfire browser. It's much lighter than Opera, it's faster & it supports streaming media without the use of any other program.
I hope I have helped.-
hello, thankyou for your reply!
I agree, I tried what you suggested and it did show 4mb on opera use . I also noticed that on startup for about 1 minute i'll have only 2-3mb memory free until it jumps to around 14.
I remember on my old iPaq being able to actively change the storage/program memory to suit with a scrollbar (more storage, less program...etc)
I assure you opera isn't my browser of choice. if I could, i'd have chrome running, but it's not out for wm yet as far as i'm aware. i'll try your suggested browser.
the standard procedure is to flash the oem rom before trying a new one, yes? will any wizard oem rom (i've seen plenty about) be ok for this, or will I need to flash one specific to it's branded name? (imate kjam with no service provider, bought as a standalone unlocked device from manufacturer). I would like one similar to that I have now (tnt pro w/ htc home) do the above offer anything like that, or is wm6.5 better for the device in terms of memory usage etc?
I appreciate these are a lot of questions, however would be greatful for your assistance
thanks,
Jason
I just installed MemMaid - and what a difference!!
From 1-3mb up to 14 on process hungry apps, and from 14 to 22mb on idle!
Happy me
I have tried MemMaid a lot of time ago & I didn't like it (I can't remember why because this happened far-far ago). Now I will give it a try again. Maybe something has changed.
To free up some memory without SoftReset I use Oxios CloseApps. A lot of people suggest using CleanRam but I also didn't like it. Yea I know I'm strange .
It is recommended to first flash an official rom & then a custom. I haven't done it so far & I am flashing my phone at least once a month the last 2 years. I haven't face any problem... yet .
If you want to flash an official rom first, T-mobile 2.26 is the recommended one for every brand.
I am using a WM6.5 CHome rom. I have installed a lot of programs that eats memory. When I SoftReset my device I have about 25mb of free Ram. At the end of the day my Wizard have about 12-14mb of free Ram. So I will recommend 1 or 2 SoftReset per day.
At last I will suggest you again to try one WM6.5 rom with CHome. When i will find some free time I am going to try X2H's WM6.5 (with CHome+LockScreen)- {Build 23007} because usually X2H's roms are bug free. I have tried almost every release of him.
I am happy if I have helped even a little bit .-
That is a fantastic wealth of information you have provided! Thankyou Sam!
Last little enquiry, is that T-Mobile both safe and recommended to do on the G4 (my other device) or seeing as it's straight out of the box with HardSPL I can just install a G4 Rom?
Also, I don't understand the whole "radio" upgrading thing..
A little off the original topic, but I have your attention
I think that T-Mobile 2.26 is not safe for your G4 because it has ipl/spl version in it. As far as I know a rom is safe for a G4 only if it doesn't include an ipl/spl version. I'm not 100% for that so I will suggest you to take a look at Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies especially at section 2. Unlocking.
Now as for the radio rom.
You can flash a radio rom without loosing your data. It's completely safe. I can't recommend you a radio rom because it has to do with the country that you are staying.
For example v2.25 is the best for me (Greece) but for you it maybe mean bad reception, battery drain, or even loosing some calls or text messages. You must find by yourself what version suits you.
Visit the thread Updating Radio Rom for more information & for some Radio Roms.
You can find some more Radio Roms at the Wizard Wiki under the header ''Radio Rom''.
Good reading, you have a lot to do .-
Thanks again Sam!
I'm trying to find out as much as possible, but considering I've had the Wizards all of one week it's a bit new.
I understand the radio now, I don't think I'll do anything to it, seeing as it works just fine here...
I've already unlocked the G4
And I'll be looking into one of the newer roms for the G3 due to the current one not being overly awesome at the moment.
Thanks again Sam!
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I have tried MemMaid a lot of time ago & I didn't like it (I can't remember why because this happened far-far ago). Now I will give it a try again. Maybe something has changed.
At last I will suggest you again to try one WM6.5 rom with CHome. When i will find some free time I am going to try X2H's WM6.5 (with CHome+LockScreen)- {Build 23007} because usually X2H's roms are bug free. I have tried almost every release of him.
I am happy if I have helped even a little bit .-
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Well, I haven't tried MemMaid before, but I have it set up to monitor memory use and actively release it. After each soft reset it will also run a "clean" and rid the system of things I don't need.
I installed the WM6.5 w/ CHome on my G4 last night - it is very, very nice!!
I will also be doing that on my G3 tonight, or perhaps see if I can find another one.. thankyou for your help Sam. You've been great!
I hope this is ok here, I have searched a lot and my question is not directly answered (or I can not find it)
I have just had a new HD turn up, had one when they first came out but liked iPhone so much, could not stop using it, so Touch HD went back.
Just been through lots of different phones again, as at last I am finding iPhone limiting in the things I want to do. Just rejected a TP2 as it has no 3.3mm socket, and is a bit heavy, quite happy with soft keyboard now from iPhone use, so I think Touch HD will suit me fine.
OK, I really liked the TP2 feel, and software, but I also liked using SPB Mobileshell 3 on it, so I plan to use this on my HD.
Now, finally my question
I have never understood why I might want to put a custom ROM on my device. I have read all the guides, and the dummies guide, but although that helps me understand HOW to do it, not sure why I would WANT to do it?
I can understand for those people that have a horrible Orange branded one or something, but mine is standard 1.56.405.1 from HTC, unbranded.
So, I see that Custom ROM can have programs already in them, and they add features like the new TF3D on the TP2, which I liked, but since I am gonna use SPB MS3 is there any point?
Sorry if I sound like a total noob, I really am not (just flashed an Orange Samsung i8910 from and to Orange 4 times so I can follow these things), but in the case of the i8910, I could see why I would flash new ROM, to get rid of Orange crap, but here, just really confused.
Thanks in advance for any insight, if I have posted in wrong place, please point me to correct place.
Kev
I also use MS3 and have been wondering if it's worth upgrading to a new ROM as most are TFL3D.
I guess after upgrading to a new ROM that the provider details will need to be reset - but that's not a bigee as the OS looks up the details right ?
<draws up a chair>
A small list of pro's & con's below:
Pros:
- New features - A lot of new features first arrive on cooked roms like new touch flow interface from the new rhodium and topaz htc phones. Obviously most stock roms now have this, but originally they didn't. Without flashing, this wouldnt have been available.
- New manila which makes customization easier
- You can install new OSs such as windows mobile 6.5
- Various types of roms available, i.e. "lite" ROMs which have very little features and as a result are faster or "heavier" ROMs which tend to be a bit slower though gap in speed has dramatically decreased with newer versions.
- Have many features/apps already "cooked" into the ROM to save you installing them yourself after a hard reset
- Some have new drivers which improve performance.
- Some have custom interfaces
- Process isnt that hard once youve got hardspl/uspl sorted (and that gets easy after a short while too). its all run through an app on your computer with your HTC connected via activesync to your computer which is about as easy as installing a program (just click next, i agree etc.)
Con's
- Can take a bit of time to get used to the process. But once you have it becomes vry quick
- Need to use backup software as all your apps and contacts (everything on the main memory is wiped clean. Information on SD is left untouched). Recommend Sashimi, PIM Backup & SPB Backup.
If you use your HTC for more than just its basic features and want to get the most out of it, definately flash a new ROM. The performance increase is noticeable going from a stock ROM to a well cooked ROM. You'll have to use HSPL or USPL on your phone first. My mate cRaCKwHoRe has provided this excellent guide
new manila which makes customization easier, offers landscape all over, better speed all over, even under heavy stress....my absolute favourite, Start is no longer that ugly WinMo '90s look-a-like square drop down menu, it's a program launcher i can open from any tab, program, whatever, so it's oh so easy to open anything from anywhere in two very fast and smooth clicks
can't even remember does the stock have whole Facebook profile linking to Contacts profile, saving pic and birthday (which i then sync to Outlook, which syncs it to Calendar)....oh, manila calendar, the WinMo thing is just awful, i'd rather use pen and paper
the whole experience is much much prettier, more user friendly and faster at that....with every update there's less WM and more manila, which is what everyone probably wants (from HTC or generally) :/
OK, so Manila and TF3D are exactly the same thing?
So assuming this is true, all the stuff I could do on the TP2 I had would be doable on this Touch HD if I put a cooked ROM with Manila 2.5 on?
Kev
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A small list of pro's & con's below:
- Can take a bit of time to get used to the process. But once you have it becomes vry quick
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Thanks so much for taking the time to do that. I think I am getting.
As I ask someone else, Manila and TF3D are the same thing right?
So, this HardSpl and softSpl, I have read the guide, but am still not clear why I would use one over the other?
At first glance, it would make sense to only use Hard? Why might someone not want to do that?
Kev
huh, i use USPL because it's a small program you run, it takes about 10sec to load and you're done, ready to flash....HSPL seemed like more hassle to begin with and USPL is really easy and simple :/ somehow even if i flashed 10 times a day, i wouldn't really see a problem with just running USPL :/
manila 2.5 is leaked, not officially out on any phone, 2.1 is out on TP2....and 2.5 is bugged, probably just a fun thing to try, not really use daily and seriously....2.0 and 2.1 are your every day options, and yes, probably everything on TP2 is in some of the ROMs cooked for Touch HD
Ah, OK so USPL would be good for me as I do not intend to flash new ROM very often?
It seems HardSPL would be for people that would be flashing all the time?
I read the bit where you say you would use USPL even if flashing lots, but surely if you were, HardSPL would be better?
Ok, so forget 2.5 Manila then, (just saw a Video and thought it was common), look for ROM with 2.1?
What version do we have on stock HD?
Thanks for answering.
Kev
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Thanks so much for taking the time to do that. I think I am getting.
As I ask someone else, Manila and TF3D are the same thing right?
So, this HardSpl and softSpl, I have read the guide, but am still not clear why I would use one over the other?
At first glance, it would make sense to only use Hard? Why might someone not want to do that?
Kev
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HSPL is an user-modified SPL that you have to flash to your phone. It overwrites the existing SPL on your device with a "hacked" one so to say. It allows you to bypass the HTC certificate check and flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone. You only have to flash it once and then you can flash roms anytime.
USPL is a temporary solution. It takes advantage of an exploit in the existing SPL and then loads a modified one to memory, effectively allowing the same thing as HSPL. However, since this is only memory-resident you have to do it each time you want to flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone, because this exploited state is lost upon reboot. With USPL you must still have the right version of the HTC SPL that is compatible with the rom you want to use.
Basic difference is that HSPL is permanent and voids warranty and USPL is temporary and thus doesn't void warranty. However, once you use HSPL you can flash any radio & rom any time you want, but with USPL you need to reuse it before every flash to new radio or rom.
If you put HSPL on your device you can remove it by following procedure at bottom on first post in this thread.
There are 2 versions of HSPL, 1.14 & 1.56. Make sure you use the correct version for whatever rom you intend to flash to, i.e.
HSPL 1.56 is for roms based on 1.56+
HSPL 1.14 is for roms based on pre 1.56
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Ah, OK so USPL would be good for me as I do not intend to flash new ROM very often?
It seems HardSPL would be for people that would be flashing all the time?
I read the bit where you say you would use USPL even if flashing lots, but surely if you were, HardSPL would be better?
Ok, so forget 2.5 Manila then, (just saw a Video and thought it was common), look for ROM with 2.1?
What version do we have on stock HD?
Thanks for answering.
Kev
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Ok, go to settings tab in TF3D and scroll down to 'About'. It should state something like TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38147.5. I highlighted the version in bold i.e. In this case its manila version 2.1
Ok, I think I need to flash a ROM, as I am finding the Touch HD a little less exciting than the TP2 I just sent back.
I liked the TP2 but it was heavy and had no 3.5mm jack, but it seemed quite a bit faster than this HD. Screen seemed much brighter as well, is that possible?
Anyway, now I have decided, I really don't have a clue what ROM to use. I have been reading this site for the last 4 hours, and am no further forward.
Kev
I'm hoping to get some answers out of this thread as well Kev - without hijacking though
If I want to keep all my current program settings and the like, is there a foolproof method by which I can restore programs from a backup on my Stock rom, onto a newly flashed cooked ROM.
I am looking for the newer features of the latest manilla but I don't want to lose any of my current data and go through the process of reinstalling the programs again.
I have pimbackup so know that will be a synch!
lol, well, Dutty 3.9XT is a huge hit, i love it and think it should be made stock, so you can go with that one....i also tried Laurentis26 latest one and it was lightning fast and smooth and is based on TP2 ROM so that's another option
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537948
manila 2.1 can have an sms bug, not everyone has it, but even TP2 suffers from it and there's still no official HTC fix....some people can't send 2 sms in a row to a same person, i am one of them and that's why i stick to manila 2.0 :/
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I'm hoping to get some answers out of this thread as well Kev - without hijacking though
I have pimbackup so know that will be a synch!
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Hijack all you want mate, we will get better answers!
I want to flash before I get it all setup, and I need to hide my iPhone away, the screen is so much brighter than this HD :-(
I keep thinking though, all my old WM devices were based on standard software and SPB Pocket Plus, and I do like the standard today screen. With this in mind, how much will I benefit from a new ROM since they all seem to be based around really good inplementation of TF3D.
Kev
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Hijack all you want mate, we will get better answers!
I want to flash before I get it all setup, and I need to hide my iPhone away, the screen is so much brighter than this HD :-(
I keep thinking though, all my old WM devices were based on standard software and SPB Pocket Plus, and I do like the standard today screen. With this in mind, how much will I benefit from a new ROM since they all seem to be based around really good inplementation of TF3D.
Kev
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Although a lot of roms are based around good implementation of TF3D, they are also cutomized for speed, performance & stability of phone overall. So a cooked rom should out perform a stock rom in almost all categories
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Although a lot of roms are based around good implementation of TF3D, they are also cutomized for speed, performance & stability of phone overall. So a cooked rom should out perform a stock rom in almost all categories
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..and what about my particular question relating to restoration of stock rom backup (programs, not rom files obviously)
Just to add my own view to this as I have had the same dilemma in the past.
I stayed with stock....basically because I have quite a few apps installed on my device, and it seems that almost every other day updates are coming out to cooked ROMs to fix bugs, and it takes half a day to reinstall my apps and set them up. if ROM updates are coming out every few days I would spend half my life updating to the new one to fix a bug and then having to reinstall my apps.
Wiggz said:
..and what about my particular question relating to restoration of stock rom backup (programs, not rom files obviously)
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am afraid there's no way to restore programs, they have to be reinstalled since flashing is just like hard reset/clear storage, deletes everything on the device (not the storage card) :/
also, with flashing you're upgrading manila and most other programs to latest released built, so you don't wanna restore old files as they might not work with newer versions :/
i use Outlook to re-sync my contacts and calendar and Microsoft MyPhone to restore sms messages....also have opera6.adr file on my storage card which i just copy into /Windows/Opera folder to restore my bookmarks....RSS Hub i set to use Storage Card for data, then it says i already have some settings there and asks do i want to overwrite, select no and i have my old channels set
rest i do by hand, but post-flash set up takes 30min once you get used to it :/ many programs/icons/stuff require a restart after installation, one just remembers which and does them one after the other and then, after you installed taskbar, clock, icons, s2u2, such, you do one restart and it's all done in minutes
@twisted-pixel: yes, it can happen that you flash weekly to correct bugs....however i'm on the same ROM now for month and a half, did flash last week, 3 times in a day, but i was bored and wanted to try out stuff went back to the same ROM again at the end of the day
I have NRGZ28's ENERGY ROM, its worth flashing it, if for nothing else, the SPEED. My HD had all the 'Orange' crap on it and it was so slow compared to how it is now....go ahead....FLASH!! (your rom, that is)
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am afraid there's no way to restore programs, they have to be reinstalled since flashing is just like hard reset/clear storage, deletes everything on the device (not the storage card) :/
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Just to update you all on this.
Throy's latest roms have included an auto-install for apps when flashing. I've tried this and it works a charm. See quote below.
Autoinstall thanks to my Good friend Tom: [ FAST and Fantastic.]Create folder in Root of Storage Card called [ Autoinstall ]
Copy all your cabs in that folder
After Flash , and during customisations all your cab will be installed.
Also set your cabs to read only
So get Your Storage Card prepared with all your Cabs to install.
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Only drawback on this is that all apps are installed onto main menu, so if you want any apps installed on your SD Card you will have to install them manually or alternatively use Sashimi backup which also auto-installs apps etc
Hi all,
My ram is always sitting around 76% usage. Is this normal? After I use the cleanram, it will clean it to about 73% usage. And for example, when i open Opera mobile 10, it will be at around 89% usage. I have a tilt 2 by the way.
thanks in advance!!
Nausicaaa
Nausicaaa said:
Hi all,
My ram is always sitting around 76% usage. Is this normal? After I use the cleanram, it will clean it to about 73% usage. And for example, when i open Opera mobile 10, it will be at around 89% usage. I have a tilt 2 by the way.
thanks in advance!!
Nausicaaa
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which rom are you using?
My Tilt2 used to run +75%. From what I read, some programs take up memory even after being closed out. I did some more searching and installed the Dynamic Resource Proxy and No Push Internet cabs from here. Now I run in the 50-60% range.
I am using the stock tilt 2 rom from AT&T. What does the dynamic resource proxy do?
Thanks!
Hi jcterry, nvm, i just read the forum you linked. Thanks alot for the help! If anyone have any other ideas to get the ram down or if my nam usage at76% is about normal let me know so i dont worry hehe
thanks all
From the "research" that I have done, the high RAM is normal. If you disable the TF3D, obviously it will drop even more (to around 37%). You can also soft reset periodically. When I do that, I start off with 49% but eventually it will go up. I haven't noticed any perfomance issues, so I haven't worried about it.
Nausicaaa said:
Hi all,
My ram is always sitting around 76% usage. Is this normal? After I use the cleanram, it will clean it to about 73% usage. And for example, when i open Opera mobile 10, it will be at around 89% usage. I have a tilt 2 by the way.
thanks in advance!!
Nausicaaa
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That depends a lot on the ROM you are using, normally a stock ROM comes with a lot of garbage on it and makes it more heavy RAM usage.
I would recommend to flash to a cooked ROM, but if you prefer to stay with stock, try to eliminate all the stuff you don´t use.
And don´t forget to vote for Rhodium!!
Nausicaaa said:
Hi jcterry, nvm, i just read the forum you linked. Thanks alot for the help! If anyone have any other ideas to get the ram down or if my nam usage at76% is about normal let me know so i dont worry hehe
thanks all
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You should install CleanRAM if you haven't already.
This is one of a number of threads along a similar line I've read on this forum and that I don't understand.
What I don't understand is why having xx% used RAM is a problem. I mean if you have error messages that say there's not enough free RAM then fair enough but why would it matter otherwise ?
For some unkown reason there's a limit on the number of processes that are allowed to run (by the power of M$) so having some RAM cleaning software running constantly will only limit what else you can run.
If it"s not broken ........
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This is one of a number of threads along a similar line I've read on this forum and that I don't understand.
What I don't understand is why having xx% used RAM is a problem. I mean if you have error messages that say there's not enough free RAM then fair enough but why would it matter otherwise ?
For some unkown reason there's a limit on the number of processes that are allowed to run (by the power of M$) so having some RAM cleaning software running constantly will only limit what else you can run.
If it"s not broken ........
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Things can and frequently do run slower/sluggish/laggy when memory is heavily full even before there's an error message.
This is true, but with 25% free I'm not sure that that's the case here.
And having another process running in the background will defo slow things down, esp when it's active. And seeing as there's a limit on the number of processes you're "allowed" to run I don't think having a RAM cleaner contantly running is a good plan.
MCbrian said:
Things can and frequently do run slower/sluggish/laggy when memory is heavily full even before there's an error message.
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... my case ... apparently WM 6.5 (the new ROM, stock in my case) is much more of a memory hog than 6.1. I have had to become used to the phone freezing during and especially immediately after calls are finished.
One possible explanation could be that I have Auto Call Record installed and running... need to check how it affects RAM
MJ
Of course 6.5 is much more RAM hungry than 6.1
But making the proper tweaks is all about!
have a look on WVGA Tweak (if not installed on your ROM search it) it´s very good tool, as mentioned before
I had the same problem with memory usage. I found the best one to be "Perfect Black" for a cooked ROM. Take a look at some of my other posts. I did some testing with various versions and posted the results for the Rhodium and Raphael.
I get the same thing, too. I found this suggestion by Mighty Mike on ppcgeeks:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85716
I tried the registry edit (changing sharememsize), and it seems to have worked. Aside from that, you can also disable TF3D, since it seems to eat up about 20MB.
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I get the same thing, too. I found this suggestion by Mighty Mike on ppcgeeks:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85716
I tried the registry edit (changing sharememsize), and it seems to have worked. Aside from that, you can also disable TF3D, since it seems to eat up about 20MB.
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This tweak seems to have worked for me also. So far so good.