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Speeding up WM5

Apologies if this has been covered before, found these settings on another website (http://smartmobileassets.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=winmobile,m=1132411511)
Have they been tried and do they make any difference?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize=0x1000(4096)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\EnableCache=0x1(1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\ReplStoreCacheSize=0x1000(4096)

Yes they work!
Yes they work beautiful on my Jasjar, the device is noticeable faster in all the applications.
Thank you!
Rodrigo Gonzalez

Cache settings, hum... how safe is this?? I take the chance and test them

Morituri said:
Apologies if this has been covered before, found these settings on another website (http://smartmobileassets.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=winmobile,m=1132411511)
Have they been tried and do they make any difference?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize=0x1000(4096)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\EnableCache=0x1(1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\ReplStoreCacheSize=0x1000(4096)
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hi. please could you tell me is i need to insert the full value "0x1000(4096)" or only one of them? thank you,

Just one, one is the Hex Value the other is the decimal

Morituri said:
Just one, one is the Hex Value the other is the decimal
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so for ex in hex 0x1000
sorry but registry is like crystal...

Just one, one is the Hex Value the other is the decimal

Yes, "0x1000" in Hex is identical to "4096" in decimal. Put whichever one you want into the relevant registry entry.
I've messed about with these registry settings too, but in all honesty I haven't noticed any difference in performance....

sub69 said:
but in all honesty I haven't noticed any difference in performance....
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me too...

But as darkdestroyer says in the other sites forum...
Yes i've done this since it was first released on Aximsite by another member. At first I had 8 mb allocated, but i guess 4 is the best number. The PDA right after a soft reboot is still the same speed, but after you have all of the shortcut's/programs run once, they will be put into ram and the following run's of those same programs/shortcuts will be much much faster. This is indeed a great find and should be standard with WM5
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No changes in the performance of the device.
The only change is battery draining faster than the original settings.
I've done these changes before and had to reflash the ROM again to my device.
I don't see any need to make these changes, and I don't advise any one to do them.
Regards,

These registry settings have been reported to increase performance by many users on different forums, some using the Dell Axim x51v ,BA users and even some Universal users and are even incorporated into tweaks2k2. My advice is to try them for yourself and make sure the changes are actually being applied after a soft reset and then perform some tasks on your device (see the post by Carnivor) and then make your own judgement. No one so far has reported any negative impact apart from a small reduction in program memory. The changes can always be reversed if needed.

Carnivor said:
But as darkdestroyer says in the other sites forum...
Yes i've done this since it was first released on Aximsite by another member. At first I had 8 mb allocated, but i guess 4 is the best number. The PDA right after a soft reboot is still the same speed, but after you have all of the shortcut's/programs run once, they will be put into ram and the following run's of those same programs/shortcuts will be much much faster. This is indeed a great find and should be standard with WM5
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Erm... so is this registry tweak adding cache memory to the system for running applications then? So that .exes or .dlls that are loaded when a program is run are available more quickly to the system next time they're needed?
If so (and I can't quite believe that this could be the case ), are we now recommending that we allow programs to stay resident in memory to speed up the machine?
... much like the standard PocketPC "Minimise, not close" behaviour that people seem to hate so much?
LMFAO if so! (and please tell me I'm wrong if not! )

SiliconS,
You are absolutely wright.
The proof is that after making the registery editing the application when opened for the first time it does not open on a faster way than the original settings, but when you open it for the second time it opens faster that the first time.
The appications remain opened in the phone memory and reduces the devices memory and the battery life as well.

Microsoft's WM5 development team must be LTFAO when they read stuff like this. People spend hours complaining and looking for ways of forcing the system to properly close apps using MagicButton or PocketPlus, and complain when their WM5 machine runs slow.
Then someone comes along offering a way of speeding things up by caching programs and files in memory!!
Am I the only person who thinks this is utterly bizarre?
Oh, man. MS must be laughing at us. :shock:
(No offence intended to anybody - I'm just amused by this. )

So, if you are running something like GSPocketMagic, Magic Button, etc, which actually close applications properly, all you are doing is reducing the amount of memory available to run programs with no gain whatsoever?

Well I made the changes and found no improvement in speed, but it was worth a try. In the light of what has been said, I'd like to change back the settings, but can't remember what they were!!!!!
Can someone post up the original values please

Here they are:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize=0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\EnableCache=1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\ReplStoreCacheSize=0

Many thanks - all sorted

Guys, these registry hacks work! If you haven't been able to get them to work you may have missed a step or two.
First of all, Windows Mobile 5 already holds running information in the RAM, so these tweaks do not truly change that but they do enhance it to make the WM5 device runs MUCH better.
I've have had a TON of people comment and e-mail me about these changes both on my site and many others about how well these tweaks work. In fact, I don't think that the developer of Tweaks2k2 would include that in his latest version if it didn't work.
Couple things; you have to either cycle the power on your WM5 device or do a soft reset from a software app only! Cycling the power will write anything in RAM to ROM, in this case the registry settings you have just changed. If cycling does not work you should soft reset your device using a software app. I think there are a couple free apps to do that but you can also use SPB's Pocket Plus or others. If you just hit the reset button on the back after making the changes it soft resets right away without writing RAM content to ROM.
You can check this by looking at your registry settings after a soft reset to see if the changes took.
I have still noticed that sometime after a reset my device will still run slowly but it isn't because of these changes. In fact, most of the time it is perfectly fine and MUCH better than it was before the changes. MUCH!
Be sure to also turn off error reporting and do the activesync hack to keep those from draining battery and you should do well.
Again, many have made these changes and seen a very significant improvement in performance.

lack of memory on wing

Hey. I'm having problems with the amount of available memory on my Wing. After a soft reset, I only have 27% of my memory left.. it makes it exteremely hard to multitask even a couple programs; my old mda would start off with around 52% of is memory free after a soft reset. I'm using the ROM that came with the phone; my phone was an insurance replacement and arrive a few days ago, so I think that I probably have the latest official ROM. Are there any custom ROMs out yet, for the wing, that help the memory situation, like a more stripped down version.. or any reg tweaks?
Thanks,

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Hey. I'm having problems with the amount of available memory on my Wing. After a soft reset, I only have 27% of my memory left.. it makes it exteremely hard to multitask even a couple programs; my old mda would start off with around 52% of is memory free after a soft reset. I'm using the ROM that came with the phone; my phone was an insurance replacement and arrive a few days ago, so I think that I probably have the latest official ROM. Are there any custom ROMs out yet, for the wing, that help the memory situation, like a more stripped down version.. or any reg tweaks?
Thanks,
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That looks very interesting...but this is a HTC WIZARD FORUM !
Try posting that here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=348

moving to herald.

adam79 said:
Hey. I'm having problems with the amount of available memory on my Wing. After a soft reset, I only have 27% of my memory left.. it makes it exteremely hard to multitask even a couple programs; my old mda would start off with around 52% of is memory free after a soft reset. I'm using the ROM that came with the phone; my phone was an insurance replacement and arrive a few days ago, so I think that I probably have the latest official ROM. Are there any custom ROMs out yet, for the wing, that help the memory situation, like a more stripped down version.. or any reg tweaks?
Thanks,
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ALL the custom roms for wizard are coked with 4MB pagepool. The original ROM has 12 MB - that´s the roblem. You won´t get more memory on wing/herald without custom ROMs.
20MB after hardreset is the most wecan get at the moment.
Sorry.

just wondering..
hey there! i just recently joined this forum and been readin some threads here. and so far i see people saying they have like 12mb memory on their wing... do you guys have any idea how they do that? because i check my wing i only have 2mb... so im wondering how can i improve mine.
thanks for help!

zerorei said:
hey there! i just recently joined this forum and been readin some threads here. and so far i see people saying they have like 12mb memory on their wing... do you guys have any idea how they do that? because i check my wing i only have 2mb... so im wondering how can i improve mine.
thanks for help!
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papamopps said:
ALL the custom roms for wizard are coked with 4MB pagepool. The original ROM has 12 MB - that´s the roblem. You won´t get more memory on wing/herald without custom ROMs.
20MB after hardreset is the most wecan get at the moment.
Sorry.
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If you want a good amount of free memory you will most likely need to flash the ROM on your wing to a custom one found on this website, such as ttran's "Open Touch" (scroll down to the 3rd post to download. Several versions to choose from.) You can use the guide provided by ivanmmj, here, to help you with the process. Here (post #60) is a link to a post regarding the memory/RAM free and used for open touch. There are many other great ROMS out too, i just happen to be using Open Touch 5.0 so its easier for me to explain it. Make sure to read thoroughly to understand all the risks and benefits involved also.

I have 15-22mb free with an oem rom.
Following the directions of previous posters I changed the pagepool size to 6mb. Many posters of a few months ago were talking about how to do this. I believe there's even a cab that will do it for you.
Another way to get more memory is to buy SKTools
HTML:
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?m_products.html#tools
which has an "optimize" feature that will free up even more memory and tweak a number of go-faster settings.

Yeah, to echo what was said before......the mem wont get better till you get into custom roms.

You do NOT have to use a custom ROM
This might seem to be against the conventional wisdom, but I'd argue that you do NOT have to use a custom ROM to improve the free memory situation on the Wing. I am running the latest official T-Mobile ROM and have about 20 MB free after a soft reset. There are a number of things you can do to increase this number without having to install a custom ROM:
(1) Change the size of the pagepool. I believe the latest T-Mobile ROM has an 8 MB pagepool. I have decreased it to 6, but others use 4 without (as far as I know) too many problems. This gives you 2 or 4 MB extra RAM.
(2) There are many more processes running (and using RAM) on the phone than you see in the standard task manager. That only shows you programs that you have opened yourself. I found that a number of these extra processes are started by shortcuts in the \Windows\StartUp folder, and therefore run when the phone turns on. Some that I removed are btdwake.lnk, My5MsgCenter.lnk, poutlook.lnk, Voice Command.lnk, and WiFiInit.lnk. You can do a search to find out what these are. If you don't use MyFaves, Voice Command, WiFi, etc. you can save a lot of memory by deleting these shortcuts from the StartUp folder. (Note: You have to rename them first, then do a soft reset, and then you will be able to delete them.)
(3) There are processes that are "services" that are always running as well. For this, I'd suggest a program like MemMaid, which shows you the "Startup Services" and allows you to disable them. I personally disabled the SMSCSend (Target: My5Client.dll) and TMW (T-Mobile HotSpot Loging Utility). There may be more. Again, I'd suggest searching for what each one is before disabling it.
Of course some people prefer custom ROMS, and that's fine. Personally, I prefer the standard WM6 Home screen to the various "Touch" interfaces touted by the custom ROMS. Installing a new ROM seemed complicated to me and a little risky for someone who hasn't done it before. Also, I didn't want to have to start from scratch with a new ROM.
Anyway, I'm posting these suggestions as an alternative for those who for whatever reason don't want to install a new ROM. Good luck!

Super slow 8525

Hey guys, it's my first post!
I have a super slow hermes. I already cleared storage and and "wiped" the handset. I also check in from time to time and kill programs. All I have is the home screen and black theme loaded up. No ringtones or songs or pics. Oh I do have three pics off my PC. Any ideas?
Thanks yall!
Robert

Oh yes and WM6

Memory is at 21.24 MB 'in use' for storage and 34.18MB 'in use' for program.

what rom? official or cooked?

As far as I know it is an official (I bought it yesterday). The rom is...5.2.1622. We are talking about the OS right?
Thank you for the very very fast response!

robertb6963 said:
As far as I know it is an official (I bought it yesterday). The rom is...5.2.1622. We are talking about the OS right?
Thank you for the very very fast response!
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personally id read through the wiki and upgrade to a cooked 6.1 rom,
these dont include the dodgy bloatware installed with the official roms - hence saving ram etc.

Thanks I'll take a look at that!

Step 1 - Did you know programs, even when closed, keep running in the background? Just go in Settings>System>Memory and select the Running Programs tab. There you can close programs.
Step 2 - Too much Today plugins will slow down the device.
Step 3 - You might have resident programs running. An example is dictionaries with checkup from any program.
Step 4 - You can check for running process. Some programs allows you to see them. Look for unusual stuff here.
I hope it helped.

N1c0_ds said:
Step 1 - Did you know programs, even when closed, keep running in the background? Just go in Settings>System>Memory and select the Running Programs tab. There you can close programs.
Step 2 - Too much Today plugins will slow down the device.
Step 3 - You might have resident programs running. An example is dictionaries with checkup from any program.
Step 4 - You can check for running process. Some programs allows you to see them. Look for unusual stuff here.
I hope it helped.
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Thank you. Thats what I meant when I said I checked in and killed programs from time to time. I will keep a lookout for the odd stuff. Thanks again!

robertb6963 said:
As far as I know it is an official (I bought it yesterday). The rom is...5.2.1622. We are talking about the OS right?
Thank you for the very very fast response!
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You bought it not so long to accormerdate the "slow response" of WM ? May be you'll find other WM machine has similar responding speed ?
I suggest making a compare to others first.

I had a Moto Q when they first came out and it was pretty slow but much faster than this phone. And my BB 8700C was WAY faster then this 8525. There must be something wrong with it, because when I get a text message and I open the keyboard and hit reply...it takes about two words to catch up to me. Say I type "Hey there", I can finish typing and when I look up it would be on like 'H' or 'e'.

I have the same thing, the official 6.0 At&t OS. I started fresh (no today plugins or anything) and it is the same thing. I was going to post a new thread, but I saw yours... Please let me know what you find out, I will try to find something, this thing is the slowest I have seen. I had a Wizard before, half of the processor speed and it was 3 times faster... Something is wrong. Thank you all for helping! Peter.

I have this problem since upgrading to vp3g v3.62. I had no problems with speed while using vp3g v3.0. I'm sure it has to be something with the ROM/build.

WM 6.1 problem - Slowdown after gameplay

I have an Alltel HTC Touch, and I have a problem with WM 6.1; everytime I close out a game, it slows down my entire phone (and sometimes freezes it if I load an app like Opera Mobile). I've been to PPCGeeks about this, and they helped me a lot, by helping me overclock the processor. My phone doesn't slow down too much anymore, but the slowdown is noticeable enough to still be a problem.
I've flashed to at least six different WM6.1 roms now, and each of them gave me the same issue.
Does anyone have any fixes for this? I would really appreciate the help!!
SIDE NOTE:
Also, my camera is very laggy indoors. It ran perfectly smooth before my transition to 6.1, and it remains laggy when I flash back to the stock WM 6.0. Its bearable right now, but if anyone knows how to get it running smoothly indoors again, I'd really appreciate it!

For starters, this is not an issue with the OS.
What game is it?
How many other apps are running?
How many processes are running?
What ROM are you using?
What is the Page Pool size?

Thanks for the quick reply!
Uh oh... that means the problem lies with my phone. I hope it's a problem that can be fixed...
Do you know if there's anything I can do to fix this then?

Oxymoron said:
Thanks for the quick reply!
Uh oh... that means the problem lies with my phone. I hope it's a problem that can be fixed...
Do you know if there's anything I can do to fix this then?
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LOL!
I'm trying to help you, but I can't until you answer some of the questions.
It's like calling a mechanic and asking what's wrong with your car, it runs a bit odd, but that's all the info given.

Sorry about the double post. My info's below.

Maybe a little more information will help.
My phone first started doing this when I flashed to the new Alltel WM 6.1 rom. I followed the instructions, doing EXACTLY what the tutorial (from HTC's website) told me to. After the flash everything worked fine except for my camera and the games (slowdown issue).
I hope this helps.
WOW, I am SO sorry, I didn't even see those questions! I thought they were a part of your sig and didn't read it
1. It slows down with any game I run except for the ones that come with the rom (solitaire and bubble breaker). The games I've tried are:
Acky's XP Breakout
4pinball
Anything on Pocketnester
Snails Reloaded
Turbo Invaders
Shift
Realms
More...
2. No other processes are running. The game is the only one.
3. The roms that I've used are (all of these are for Alltel):
Conflipper's Vouge 6.1 ROM
Crystal v.4 6.1 ROM
Official 6.1 ROM
Dette M2D Diamond Edition v2.3 (Generic rom. This is the one I'm on currently).
4. How do I find the pagepool size again?
Again, sorry about that. I didn't see your questions

I officially give up!

Oxymoron said:
My phone first started doing this when I flashed to the new Alltel WM 6.1 rom. I followed the instructions, doing EXACTLY what the tutorial (from HTC's website) told me to. After the flash everything worked fine except for my camera and the games (slowdown issue).
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You should have followed the cookers instructions, if you did not follow their instructions exactly, reflash by their way.
For the camera, it's sometimes laggy, especially with low memory.
Oxymoron said:
Acky's XP Breakout
4pinball
Anything on Pocketnester
Snails Reloaded
Turbo Invaders
Shift
Realms
More...
2. No other processes are running. The game is the only one.
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I haven't even seen half of these games, but PocketNES can be buggy. I suggest using dotfred's Task Manager and viewing CPU usage after playing these games. One of them may have a memory leak causing this.
Also check the other running processes for memoery consumption.
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4. How do I find the pagepool size again?
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Ususally the cooker posts this, but I see he didn't, the basics on this is it determines your available program memory at all times, especially on boot up, if you really want to know, soft reset, wait a min or two and check the avail program memory. Or use nue's system tool to view additional info.
Also, trying using Oxios Memory, it's free and will free up all avail program memory not being used.
You can try schap's Advanced Config Tool to speed up various parts of your device for improvement.
Alright, don't want to sound frustrated, but I just watched some Hell's Kitchen !

You are a genius! Thanks for the suggestions. I'm gonna try them now and see what happens, and I'll be back with my results!
And, no, you didn't sound frustrated, even though if you did, I couldn't blame you
Thanks again!

Okay, I'm back. Using the task manager you suggested, I found the problem.
The game that I tested (4Pinball) is still running after I closed it. It doesn't show up on the quick menu in the upper right corner of the today screen, but it DOES show up in that task manager.
So I go to close it, and it says it can't be closed properly, and it asks me if I want to kill it. The strange thing is, the choices are ok and cancel instead of yes and no. But anyway, I hit ok.
then another message pops up, but there's no text in it; there's just an X there. After I close that message by hitting ok, I see that 4Pinball remains in the task manager, and it's still there even after I hit refresh.
I installed it to the storage card. Would there be a better chance of it working if I install to device memory?

Sometimes I got the blank message to, don't worry about that, but you have to kill the process for it to work.
Try uninstalling it and running without it.

I keep getting the blank screen... I tried to install it on both the storage card and the device memory, but in either case it doesn't close the game. I'll keep tryin'.

Oh yeah, and I tried that oxios memory program, but it didn't work... it would start loading, but it would never come up.
I remember hearing about a program that freed up ram over at ppcgeeks's forum. I'm gonna see if I can track it down.

[REQ] Looking for ROM which doesn't drain battery...

... (like kwbr) and supports Manila in full landscape (like Energy). Any suggestions?? Thanx!

doesn't drain battery? just shutdown your phone

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... (like kwbr) and supports Manila in full landscape (like Energy). Any suggestions?? Thanx!
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Bro could you be more specific about the problem...
cause about the battery drain there any many post in HD2 sections. since i cant use link here. may be you can check the sticky thread in general and you can find it there.
i use NRG for few days and since i use GSM only i disable 3G so its kinda better not draining much as i can winmo always hunger for battery...may be if you can find better answer share with me so i would learn as well.
there are some cycle of charging said by MIRI, i guess you already know that...

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Bro could you be more specific about the problem...
cause about the battery drain there any many post in HD2 sections. since i cant use link here. may be you can check the sticky thread in general and you can find it there.
i use NRG for few days and since i use GSM only i disable 3G so its kinda better not draining much as i can winmo always hunger for battery...may be if you can find better answer share with me so i would learn as well.
there are some cycle of charging said by MIRI, i guess you already know that...
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I mean "doesnt drain battery so much" I use my HD2 only for the internet and navi. No talking at all. 3G must be always on. Kwbrs was the best (for battery life), but I started using navi in landscape, so now I want Manila in landscape as well. Energy ROM looks & works great , but it drains battery like hell That's why I need something else

1.72 shipped or recooked only.

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1.72 shipped or recooked only.
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Thanks mate. Will try a few...

bigtom5000 said:
Energy ROM looks & works great , but it drains battery like hell
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Not true: After a couple of tiny adjustments the 23554 build uses 1% battery charge per hour (i had 86% charge left after 14h) - now if you call that draining then something is wrong with your eyes
on your phone running energyrom:
open totalcommander and goto windows/startup
remove taskmanager link and arkswitch link
install showcase (instead of arkswitch)
reboot the phone
set it up the way you want
thats all