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Elf turns off by itself!

My touch turns off by itself....any suggestions on where to start troubleshootng?

Even am facing the same prob...My elf turns off sometimes without any notification.When i press the power button to make it come out of the sleep mode, I see the phone gets powered on.
Any solution to this prob and the reason for occurence?

@griffith
i have searched around and found this answer:
"Try placing a piece of thin piece of plastic between the metal piece and the omap processor. it is a normal occurrence in the htc's. what is happening is as the phone gets wear and tear, the pins stop making contact with the processor making it turn off."
I have not tried it yet because i took my battery out an replaced it and it has not turned off since. But it may be worth a try.

ryanh11 said:
@griffith
i have searched around and found this answer:
"Try placing a piece of thin piece of plastic between the metal piece and the omap processor. it is a normal occurrence in the htc's. what is happening is as the phone gets wear and tear, the pins stop making contact with the processor making it turn off."
I have not tried it yet because i took my battery out an replaced it and it has not turned off since. But it may be worth a try.
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Alot people say that this method works the best.

do i have to dismantle my htc touch?

Do you mean to say that I will have to dismantle my phone? If yes, how would I do that? Can it be done safely by us?

there is a elf dismantle guide here.
there is some people which already done this.
You can look around this elf forum, on this same forum, there have been 2 or 3 threads opened for this.

what you are saying is that the processor is loose and we need to re attach it??
What about the heat related problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532783... or the point that shaking the phone doesnt help the problem (or worsen)

Yeah, so there are many factors involved for a faulty elf.

SD HC
I notice crashing is less anoying when i loose the SD HC card. Is the elf compatible with SD HC ??

Yup, fully compatible.
Compatible up to 8GB, although some say that 16GB is okay too.
Probably your SDHC is faulty

I had the same same problem with my Touch. It just turns off by itself without ne specific warning or nething. I dropped a mail to the customer care but there was no reply from them. A week later i again driopped in a mail and again no reply.
I was frusteated so tried calling the toll free number in my country and again no response ...I then tried calling the numbers on their HTC site in Delhi head office and there again no oone picked the phone ....
I was frustated by the poor customer service so decided to mail the CEO and COO of HTC global and as soon as I mailed them I received call from Delhi head office in 15 mins and they now have sent me a new set which suposedly doesnt have the problem.
I am now waiting to see the response of the new one as soon as it arrives

lavs said:
I had the same same problem with my Touch. It just turns off by itself without ne specific warning or nething. I dropped a mail to the customer care but there was no reply from them. A week later i again driopped in a mail and again no reply.
I was frusteated so tried calling the toll free number in my country and again no response ...I then tried calling the numbers on their HTC site in Delhi head office and there again no oone picked the phone ....
I was frustated by the poor customer service so decided to mail the CEO and COO of HTC global and as soon as I mailed them I received call from Delhi head office in 15 mins and they now have sent me a new set which suposedly doesnt have the problem.
I am now waiting to see the response of the new one as soon as it arrives
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I feel so happy for you!
You fight for customer rights!
YES!
Good luck, and hope you will have more fun with your device.

the problem is still there after installing new rom, maybe i should try the hardware sollution

What is your thoughts on the hardware solutions?

ryanh11 said:
@griffith
i have searched around and found this answer:
"Try placing a piece of thin piece of plastic between the metal piece and the omap processor. it is a normal occurrence in the htc's. what is happening is as the phone gets wear and tear, the pins stop making contact with the processor making it turn off."
I have not tried it yet because i took my battery out an replaced it and it has not turned off since. But it may be worth a try.
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need to try this yet...
btw in the top of the battery compartiment there is a smale hole covered by a small thin plastic, what is this "expansionslot" for??

Dead Screen?

Hey guys I'm just wondering if anyone has had this problem with their phone;
The other day I was on the phone when it started raining. After the call I saw my phone had gotten wet but I have a crystal case to protect it, so as soon as I got home I wiped it down and took it apart and left it to warm & dry off (I learnt my lesson with previous electronics to never use it when it could be wet inside).
After leaving it for 4 hours in a warm airing cupboard it works... kinda...
My screen now goes black for a period of time, and the backlight flickers before going black (just like when fluorescent lights flicker). Then I cannot see anything at all.
I can still receive calls & answer them, although I cannot see who is calling. but I definitely cannot make calls
Sometimes when I leave it for a few hours the screen just comes back on randomly but I cannot put up with this.
Should this fault be covered by the HTC warranty?

haha no. spend some buks now

it can be a little messy and there's a chance of possibly getting a little granual in your device but I have heard nothing but good word from people who have had the same issue and actually put their devices in rice to allow the granuals to absorb all the moisture.

To the idiot laughing at anothers misfortune...
Gothik said:
haha no. spend some buks now
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How is that funny????
You should not laugh at another's misfortune.
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Gothik said:
haha no. spend some buks now
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Charlie Brown does have a point. Being rude or disrespectful to others is against forum rules. You shouldn't laugh at people that are having issues.

egzthunder1 said:
Charlie Brown does have a point. Being rude or disrespectful to others is against forum rules. You shouldn't laugh at people that are having issues.
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first of all man why are you making this an issue? want an argument? huh?
secondly dude i messaged you. read it.
third now for people with no sense let me break the post down. the 'haha' was meant for the part he said that will HTC claim it back in warranty? well afaik no they wouldn't plus they are HTC. and as far as my smile goes... well i didn't find the angel smiley.
enough said?!?

I wasn't swimming when answering the call, it was raining... im sure all mobiles are supposed to be built to accept that weather happens (to a certain degree ofcourse) with the exception of super freezing and super warm environments.
It's a shame that pretty much all phone repair stores near me (in Birmingham) look very dodgy,
I've mailed HTC and they were trying to be helpful but in the end they referred me to call their Support line to arrange repairs.
Anyway I'm going to fear that this will have to come under "water damage" repairs... how much would you suspect that to cost?

[REPAIR]HD2 random rebooting

Ok, i've given up.
My HD2 is driving me nuts, i've been taking it for granted for a long time, but i've decided to send my HD2 for repairs.
Maybe some users can identify themselfs in my symptoms and perhaps go for a repair as well. I'll try to keep you guys up to date on this situation.
Status:
18/10 - Received my repair ticket. Scheduled pickup tomorrow between 08:00 and 10:00 GMT +1.
19/10 - Phone got picked up by courier service, 8.30AM in the morning.
20/10 till 25/10 - No change in status and/or picked up!
26/10 - Decided to call after a prolonged status update. Summary of conversation: "Yes, everything is fine. No the status hasn't been changed, but you should receive your phone back in about a total of 2 weeks, so somewhere next week i guess."
27-10 till 2/11 -- No change in status and message.
3-11 - Received a package back with my repaired phone! Results: Boardswap, phone shutdown while diagnosing at the repair center. They even replaced my camera lens!
Total repair time due: 15 days
The following below describes the problems that occur (allot!), perhaps you can identify yourself in this as well.
Issie:
- Phone restarts (randomly) and holds at the HTC boot logo when back(bottom)cover feels warm-to-hot.
- Phone reboots when back(bottom)cover is warm, but not hot enough to hang at HTC boot logo, but soon after booting to Windows mobile, the device may reboot again.
Happens when:
- Browsing Internet (3G/HSDPA)
- Listening to Music (through SD card)
- Playing a game
- Having a (long) phone call the device
(temporarily) fix for issue:
1. Do a ‘Battery-Pull’ (extracting the battery) which shuts down the device.
2. Let it cool down for a couple of minutes until the back(bottom)part doesn’t feel warm enough anymore.
3. Re-insert battery, and restart phone.
4. If cooled down enough, the phone will restart correctly when powering up the device, until issue happens again, where step 1 needs to be done again.
The above mentioned issue don’t happen when the devise isn’t put under ‘load’ (I.e: use applications/browse(the web)/music etc). Putting the phone in sleep/standby or just sending a text message will not reboot the phone.
Tried the following official fixes:
- Hard Resetting the device > Issue remains.
- Updating to a new (official) ROM (RUU_Leo_HTC_NLD_1.48.404.2_Radio_Signed_15.28.50.07U_2.05.51.05_2_Ship.exe )
> Issue remains, even after a Hard reset with above noted ROM.
- Formatting and/or removing the SD card from the Device > Issue remains.
Tried the XDA fixes:
- Different Radios: Any radio in the official HD2 Radio topic
- Many different Roms
- Formatted the SD card, tried a different one, and even None.
Concluding:
Seeing to have tried all options relating to a software issue, I think this might be a hardware issue.
Contact with HTC:
Having sent some messages over with HTC they sent me this last message:
[name]
(Benelux Support
(Tech)) Close Pending Hi Maseo, Thank you for letting me know. It really sounds like a hardware issue. Please let us know if you need anything else. Kind Regards, 2010/10/18 12:42:46

I have the exact same problem and tomorrow it is going to the repair center. Unfortunately I have a crack in the digitizer, I hope they don't use it as pretext to charge me extra!

relic said:
I have the exact same problem and tomorrow it is going to the repair center. Unfortunately I have a crack in the digitizer, I hope they don't use it as pretext to charge me extra!
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My screen is still in mint condition, only thing that cracked if my camera-glass due to a bump against my table at home.. But more then that it's nothing.
I've noticed more people having the problem, so i thought maybe more people have my issues as well and could go for a repair after seeing this topic.

maseo said:
My screen is still in mint condition, only thing that cracked if my camera-glass due to a bump against my table at home.. But more then that it's nothing.
I've noticed more people having the problem, so i thought maybe more people have my issues as well and could go for a repair after seeing this topic.
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They will blame your problem on humidity in the device after the camera glass cracked. Did you change the camera-glass? I suggest you do that before you send it for repair otherwise you have to pay for the repairs as it does not fall under warranty (check on ebay for camera glass lens).
I think we're both in the same pickle:/
I am crossing my fingers they won't charge me.

relic said:
They will blame your problem on humidity in the device after the camera glass cracked. Did you change the camera-glass? I suggest you do that before you send it for repair otherwise you have to pay for the repairs as it does not fall under warranty (check on ebay for camera glass lens).
I think we're both in the same pickle:/
I am crossing my fingers they won't charge me.
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I haven't. And a device breaking down from the camera end is highly unlikely.
It's impossible for me to replace it now as it's being picked up tomorrow morning. If they have to repair it, so be it. As long as it's not a outrageous high price..
You got experience in this, them blaming me in case of humidity, or you just guessing?

maseo said:
I haven't. And a device breaking down from the camera end is highly unlikely.
It's impossible for me to replace it now as it's being picked up tomorrow morning. If they have to repair it, so be it. As long as it's not a outrageous high price..
You got experience in this, them blaming me in case of humidity, or you just guessing?
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After speaking with their customer rep they pointed out to me that it is possible that the device malfunctions because of cracks leading to humidity and temperature problems. And that is not under warranty.
If your camera lens is cracked, it is easy for them to blame it on humidity due to the crack. This is a possible scenario, I can't predict but if we learned anything from repair under warranty, companies will to blame it on the customer before they fix it under warranty.
My advice to you is to cancel the pick up and reschedule another one later, go to ebay and buy a second hand glass lens and glue it yourself. It cost you less than 5$ to do that. Better than relying on their repair and end up paying hundreds of dollars. This way you eliminate the excuse of them blaming the defect on you.

relic said:
After speaking with their customer rep they pointed out to me that it is possible that the device malfunctions because of cracks leading to humidity and temperature problems. And that is not under warranty.
If your camera lens is cracked, it is easy for them to blame it on humidity due to the crack. This is a possible scenario, I can't predict but if we learned anything from repair under warranty, companies will to blame it on the customer before they fix it under warranty.
My advice to you is to cancel the pick up and reschedule another one later, go to ebay and buy a second hand glass lens and glue it yourself. It cost you less than 5$ to do that. Better than relying on their repair and end up paying hundreds of dollars. This way you eliminate the excuse of them blaming the defect on you.
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Sounds plausible, but that wouldn't make sense in the way the device is manufactured. The CPU/GPU/Radio base i at the bottom. Any malfunctioning due to possible humidity in the camera would only lead to a malfunctioning camera, and that's not the case at this time.
Given, if i had more time i might have placed it, but i'm not in the occasion to do that right now.
I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed, im more afraid they'll go at you for a broken digitizer..

maseo said:
I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed, im more afraid they'll go at you for a broken digitizer..
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I wish you the best. Let's keep each other updated on the situation. I am curious to hear good news!

relic said:
I wish you the best. Let's keep each other updated on the situation. I am curious to hear good news!
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The same goes to you! I'm very curious on what will happen..!
gonna miss my phone though..

maseo said:
The same goes to you! I'm very curious on what will happen..!
gonna miss my phone though..
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Double check this. Pull your battery and make sure that none of the pins are bent and touching each other. This has caused some issues, but not exactly the one you're describing but it can't hurt to check. If they are bent, straighten them out and see if the issue is resolved.

dipaolnv said:
Double check this. Pull your battery and make sure that none of the pins are bent and touching each other. This has caused some issues, but not exactly the one you're describing but it can't hurt to check. If they are bent, straighten them out and see if the issue is resolved.
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Thanks, but to no avail.
Those 3 pins were straight and sitting nice and snuggly against each other.

i also have a battery problem battery seems to be dying. under 30% phone becomes unstable. also sometimes doenst want to load or boot.
last 2 must be a connector problem (indeed it must be. put battery in without taking care to put contact points in the 3 little squares then the battery doesnt work)
ive mailed custumer service, it must be part of the warranty so i want a new battery

avathar behemoth said:
i also have a battery problem battery seems to be dying. under 30% phone becomes unstable. also sometimes doenst want to load or boot.
last 2 must be a connector problem (indeed it must be. put battery in without taking care to put contact points in the 3 little squares then the battery doesnt work)
ive mailed custumer service, it must be part of the warranty so i want a new battery
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My problem has nothing to do with the battery at all.. don't hijack this topic for something un-related..

Day 2:
Phone is still enroute to HTC Service Center according to the Servicetracker..
how long does it take to deliver a phone i wonder..

My experience with HTC customer services
In the case of my HD2 (same symptoms):
Went back to Standard ROM/Radio/Bootloader Friday 17/09/10
Confirmed problem still existed on standard software 17/09/10
Called HTC customer services 18/09/10
Collection booked for Monday 20/09/10
Confirmation email received that phone had been received 21/09/10
Status changed from "Received your phone" to "Repairing your phone" 03/10/10
Status changed to "Awaiting despatch" (or something similar) 03/10/10
Received email confirmation phone was being shipped back to me 04/10/10
Received phone back with new IMEI (presume new motherboard) 05/10/10
All in all, I was without the phone for 2 weeks but I have no complaints about the service at all. A message telling me what they'd done to fix the problem would've been nice, but it's fixed and working perfectly so I'll forgive them for that.
After a week without my HD2, my spare phone was really annoying me due to it's lack of capability (HTC StrTrk) so I bought an Orange San Francisco, used it until my HD2 came back then sold it to someone I work with for what I paid for it.

Yeah, the fun thing is, is that the service center is almost figuratively around the corner, still they said it could take up to 2 weeks though.
I'm gonna get a Nokia 5800 as a lend-phone from a friend of mine.
I was looking into getting the Desire HD possibly this friday, but that's just too much as next to having the HD2, haha!

maseo im not trying to hijack anything!
maybe your sister if she looks nice.. so pls dont use that tone!
seems to be a battery issue with your phone so it seems with mine... it could also be a connector/motherboard problem so my post was on topic.
i submitted a problem to tech support and got a ticket they want me to call cust service to check my phone, i dont want to lose it for at least 2 weeks.
i want to get a new battery! so ill try to get that.
(also you reply a lot... do you want your posts to go up or something? )

avathar behemoth said:
maseo im not trying to hijack anything!
maybe your sister if she looks nice.. so pls dont use that tone!
seems to be a battery issue with your phone so it seems with mine... it could also be a connector/motherboard problem so my post was on topic.
i submitted a problem to tech support and got a ticket they want me to call cust service to check my phone, i dont want to lose it for at least 2 weeks.
i want to get a new battery! so ill try to get that.
(also you reply a lot... do you want your posts to go up or something? )
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Don't want to keep bumping it without no-reason, im just replying that's all ;-)
If it were a battery problem it would show other symptoms, ditto for the connector. Im more confident it's more hardware related, but to be precise what, i don't know.
A new battery is quite inexpensive, why don't you just get one? Saves you the hassle of getting (or trying to get) a new one through HTC.
Day 3 that my phone is underway, takes ages for a small trip by courier apparently ?

maseo said:
Don't want to keep bumping it without no-reason, im just replying that's all ;-)
If it were a battery problem it would show other symptoms, ditto for the connector. Im more confident it's more hardware related, but to be precise what, i don't know.
A new battery is quite inexpensive, why don't you just get one? Saves you the hassle of getting (or trying to get) a new one through HTC.
Day 3 that my phone is underway, takes ages for a small trip by courier apparently ?
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ya I have the same thing still underway.

relic said:
ya I have the same thing still underway.
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My god.. almost a week further, it's still enroute?!
how's it going on your end relic?
26/10: Decided to call after a prolonged status update. Summary of conversation: "Yes, everything is fine. No the status hasn't been changed, but you should receive your phone back in about a total of 2 weeks, so somewhere next week i guess."

[Q] 100% Bricked

I'm pretty sure my Droid X is completely dead. I've been running Liberty 1.5 for a few weeks now with no problem. I hadn't done anything new since flashing Liberty; no flashing, rooting, nothing.
So it came as a huge surprise when I plugged my phone into a charger and everything went black. I can't turn it on, I can't enter recovery, I can't even enter the bootloader. I've tried leaving the phone on the factory charger for a few hours (nothing), I've tried leaving the battery out for a few hours (nothing).
Is my phone a paperweight?

Is the charger defective? Is your battery defective? I.E it is completely dead and wont charge or charger isn't outputting and DC voltage?

malek9696 said:
I'm pretty sure my Droid X is completely dead. I've been running Liberty 1.5 for a few weeks now with no problem. I hadn't done anything new since flashing Liberty; no flashing, rooting, nothing.
So it came as a huge surprise when I plugged my phone into a charger and everything went black. I can't turn it on, I can't enter recovery, I can't even enter the bootloader. I've tried leaving the phone on the factory charger for a few hours (nothing), I've tried leaving the battery out for a few hours (nothing).
Is my phone a paperweight?
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Do you know anyone else with a Droid X? Your battery may have just completely died. Try another battery for the X, or even go into a Verizon store and see if they can give you a battery just to confirm if it is a battery issue or not.
The phone "shouldn't" just die if you haven't done anything to it...while there are extreme cases with weird occurances, the phone shouldn't just magically stop working.

joebob296 said:
Is the charger defective? Is your battery defective? I.E it is completely dead and wont charge or charger isn't outputting and DC voltage?
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I've been trying several different chargers with no success. I haven't had a chance to try a new battery yet.

SysAdmin-X said:
Do you know anyone else with a Droid X? Your battery may have just completely died. Try another battery for the X, or even go into a Verizon store and see if they can give you a battery just to confirm if it is a battery issue or not.
The phone "shouldn't" just die if you haven't done anything to it...while there are extreme cases with weird occurances, the phone shouldn't just magically stop working.
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I'll try a different battery when I get a chance.
I was hoping it really didn't just magically die, that would be horrible. But the battery seems like an odd problem since it was at 30% when I plugged it in.

Well, my phone was dead. I took it to verizon where they tried a brand new battery and it still didn't do anything. The clerk even put my battery in another droid x and it started up fine.
So, on to the next droid x, which hopefully won't magically die on me.

Sounds like you had some kind of hardware failure, in my opinion. Quite unfortunate.

Dear friend,
I obviously have a Droid x also. I've got some good news for you. This happened to me before (although at that time, the phone was not rooted, but I don't think it has anything to do with it) I took the phone to Verizon and what they said is that the battery had completely died. They put a different battery and the phone worked just fine.
Good luck!
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App

Dear "Good Luck!",
Many people find it enlightening to read posts between the initial post that contains the dilema and the Quick Reply box at the bottom of the page....or read any additional posts that reside under the "reply" button to the initial post that contains the dilema. Howthehellever, thanks for providing the opportunity for humor and wackiness to ensue.
signed,
Dear Friend

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Dear "Good Luck!",
Many people find it enlightening to read posts between the initial post that contains the dilema and the Quick Reply box at the bottom of the page....or read any additional posts that reside under the "reply" button to the initial post that contains the dilema. Howthehellever, thanks for providing the opportunity for humor and wackiness to ensue.
signed,
Dear Friend
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Got sand in your pants?
It's the man's second post, he was trying to be helpful, and you're already trolling him.
Try something like this instead: "As noted in a post above, Verizon was able to rule out the battery as the cause of the failure. Please try to check if a thread is already resolved, before bumping it again".
/Manners are free; as are cliches.

No sand here....perhaps a bit where you're sittin Blade?
Just havin a little fun while communicating the same thing. I'll try to keep it humorless and terse as in your example.
btw Malek, sorry to hear of your troubles....

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No sand here....perhaps a bit where you're sittin Blade?
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I wish. The beach and a beer, sounds good to me.

@jazzaddict
First of all, like bladebarrier(thanks to him by the way) said, I was just trying to help, because I know how it sucks when you think your phone is bricked. Second, yesterday was my first time using the xda app (I'm new to the site and forums in general), I didn't pay much attention that the question was already answered, although I should have.
I can't find anything wrong with saying "dear friend" or "good luck", it doesn't hurt to be polite or friendly. May be these words fits better in a letter than in a forum, but I'm still learning a new thing everyday because English is not my first language.
With all due respect, you remind me of the majority of people who comment on Yahoo news, they always have an attitude.
Thank you.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App

Please help...bricked or not???

Sorry for my english but it's not my first language, even not second, so apologies.
So my problem... i don't like to post and don't post so much but i'm here every day. I have some devices and i love flashing and trying every new rom. I'm not a noob and nor dev. Just a simple user who's second life everyday is xda.
I just want to know if my HD2 is bricked or not. So the phone do not boot up, screen do not turn on, button backlight, or charging led. Nothing. It was installed with magldr. First i was thinking that battery was dead and with magldr do not charge and that's why do not boot. But no... today i have bought from somebody a docking charger with spare battery charger and 2 batteries. No luck. I have disassembled my leo and took a look in it. If i try to turn on i see that the vibration motor turns on for a half of second and than nothing happens.
I'ts not so very big problem if it is bricked (while i have a DHD, an SE xperia neoV, an asus tf101g, and next week i will buy a galaxy nexus too) but i don't want to take it in box if it can be bringed back to life. I just want to know what can cause this , if somebody knows what can i try feel free to answer.
P.S. no do not boots in bootloader also. Last time was installed with android via magldr, no OC, and all happend when i was driving my car using navigation on it. Simply turned off. It seem like the bootloader was deleted or don't know. Also battery pins checked. It can be defective mainboard or what???
Thanx in advance.
Sent from my Transformer TF101G using Tapatalk

Looks as mainboard died. Sometimes car charger can kill the phone

kliko kliktoris said:
Looks as mainboard died. Sometimes car charger can kill the phone
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Yeah i agree with you but then why is vibration motor moving? Also i know that it doesn't matter but i have the original car charger from htc, and the phone was not plugged in, battery was at starting the navigation app at about 80% and after 10 minutes was the phone dead.
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rapman172003 said:
battery was at starting the navigation app at about 80% and after 10 minutes was the phone dead.
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a few times on both by hd2's, I've come across a situation where some app/process hangs, the phone freezes or becomes really sluggish, and the phone starts to get hot at the bottom on the back. I always pull teh battery smartish, but perhaps yours did the same, and it burned itself out. Its well known that the hd2 suffers from heat.
Perhaps give the freezer trick a go, see what happens.

rapman172003 said:
Sorry for my english but it's not my first language, even not second, so apologies.
So my problem... i don't like to post and don't post so much but i'm here every day. I have some devices and i love flashing and trying every new rom. I'm not a noob and nor dev. Just a simple user who's second life everyday is xda.
I just want to know if my HD2 is bricked or not. So the phone do not boot up, screen do not turn on, button backlight, or charging led. Nothing. It was installed with magldr. First i was thinking that battery was dead and with magldr do not charge and that's why do not boot. But no... today i have bought from somebody a docking charger with spare battery charger and 2 batteries. No luck. I have disassembled my leo and took a look in it. If i try to turn on i see that the vibration motor turns on for a half of second and than nothing happens.
I'ts not so very big problem if it is bricked (while i have a DHD, an SE xperia neoV, an asus tf101g, and next week i will buy a galaxy nexus too) but i don't want to take it in box if it can be bringed back to life. I just want to know what can cause this , if somebody knows what can i try feel free to answer.
P.S. no do not boots in bootloader also. Last time was installed with android via magldr, no OC, and all happend when i was driving my car using navigation on it. Simply turned off. It seem like the bootloader was deleted or don't know. Also battery pins checked. It can be defective mainboard or what???
Thanx in advance.
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Contact this user. He had bricked and fixed his HD2 somewhere in Gegmany
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1102297

Sorry for ur hd2 but as I heard that maximum flashing for hd2 are 100 timea till it break. How often did u flash ur hd2?
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taufan36 said:
Sorry for ur hd2 but as I heard that maximum flashing for hd2 are 100 timea till it break. How often did u flash ur hd2?
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I think thats just some kind of myth. I bet I have flashed my HD2 OVER 150 times, a lot of experimenting of windows mobile, and later went on to Android. I did have a problem with a HD2 to vibrate 5/7 times and then freeze, in any way. Even when I flashed. I had trouble booting it too, but removing the battery for 30 minutes worked.

Thanks for your answer. I will contact him maybe he can help me.
I think too that the flashing limit is just a myth. I was flashing roms more than 300times and with no issues. My Leo was a survivor two times made bath and even after was fully functioning. Last months i was using just for gps and playing with roms.
If i can't fix it i want to give it for somebody from hd2 forums. If you are near Gütersloh in germany and you were contributing with something for Hd2 community feel free contact me and i will give you for free. No shipment because i can't send it, but if you are from other country and you have somebody that can send it to you tell him to come here contact me and we will see what we can do. There is the phone, 3batteries, docking station with one extra place for battery charge, original and silicon case.
I WANT TO WAIT ONE WEEK FROM NOW IF I CAN'T FIX IT I WILL TELL YOU AND EVERYBODY CAN CONTACT ME. REMEMBER THAT YOU MUST BE A DEV OR THEMER BECAUSE I WON'T GIVE IT FOR EVERYDAY USER WHO DID NOTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY. I CAN'T DONATE, LET THIS BE MY DONATION.
THANKS
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Mate, i am from Hannover, which is not too far off your location. I might be able to help you with some advice. I am under pressure at work at the moment and cant reply in detail now but hang in there i will get back to you asap. Sorry cannot help right now.
There is two possible causes i can think of.
and btw: the flashing counter is not a myth. the Chip counts the number of flashes. But i don't think it has a kill switch. That is bull****. It's just for HTC to tell how often it was flashed and judge what users did to it.

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and btw: the flashing counter is not a myth
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Source? Never heard of this before. (Also, surely only ruu based flashes would register, the firmware wouldn't see android flashes, so it would be a hugely incorrect figure)

Sneakyghost said:
Mate, i am from Hannover, which is not too far off your location. I might be able to help you with some advice. I am under pressure at work at the moment and cant reply in detail now but hang in there i will get back to you asap. Sorry cannot help right now.
There is two possible causes i can think of.
and btw: the flashing counter is not a myth. the Chip counts the number of flashes. But i don't think it has a kill switch. That is bull****. It's just for HTC to tell how often it was flashed and judge what users did to it.
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Ok thanks for your fast reply i'm here every day. When you have time drop me a pm and we will see what to do. There is no rush.
Thank you one more time.
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Source? Never heard of this before. (Also, surely only ruu based flashes would register, the firmware wouldn't see android flashes, so it would be a hugely incorrect figure)
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Hi Samsamuel,
good question. It is something i came across recently when my device got killed and i bought a new one with a brick. I did a lot of research (tried to find a way to get rid of the brick myself) but since the mentioning of the counter was something of little interest to me at the time i didn't take note of where i read it. It might be only HearSay and not be a proven fact, additionally, i was thinking the same about the RUU flashes and the android flashes. Most likely only the RUU flashes are counted. Maybe the part of the chip that holds the clocks for call time counting also holds a flash counter? Something i find a reasonable assumption. Further, i read about it in the environment of the whole jtag-programming world where i think i came across a page stating that their programming box resets the flash counters. i can't remember if that was the RIFF box or some other lesser known box. The RIFF box at last does not seem to feature it if i look it up now.
So, long story short, it might also just be a marketing gag for those believing in the Myth of a killswitch. As i said, i don't believe that but think flash counters aren't that far off reality and to answer your question: i cannot prove it. I just read it somewhere.
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Ok thanks for your fast reply i'm here every day. When you have time drop me a pm and we will see what to do. There is no rush.
Thank you one more time.
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Ok here is a random search results collection of threads with similar issues related to overheating and broken solder Points on the CPU. You can read through them to get an idea of whats coming up to you.
Number 1
Number 2
Number 3 - by far the best one on overheating and breaking/fixing the CPU solder points!
And here the Help i can offer you for the scenario where your HD2 is "just" a brick - which is way more easy to fix! This is the Guy who successfully unbricked my HD2:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/HTC-Bootload...TAG-/320848960362?pt=PDAs&hash=item4ab4169b6a
BIG RED HINT: This guy has just bought himself an Infrared soldering station which could be used to re-solder the BGA connections for the CPU if them are broken! Read more about it on Link 3 up above. That dude is MASSIVE! Respect for his work is the word of the day! If you ask that guy with the soldering station he might be interested in doing a try on your device. He's learning, you are gaining if he succeeds. If he doesn't he still learned something and you helped the community by making him smarter
And there is another one in Austria who knows more about the Device and the possibilities and he was the first one ever to mention a HTC WhiteCard (for real, i searched the net and didn't find that term anywhere), i have never heard of that before but it seems to be a universal sim card that can set any HTC device S-OFF and according to that dude it costs a sum with 5 digits and he got one. It does exactly the same as the XTC Clip. amazing story anyhow , he is called Harald Kubovy and can be contacted here: Entsperren.net
Why did i not choose him? Further away, longer wait, 5 euros more. But he seemed to know A LOT.
And one last note: i don't think it is necessary for you to come over to my place as i cannot directly help you. I am not the kinda guy who fixes hardware. I fiddle around with software a lot and i am VERY tempted to buy a RIFF Box but then again i wouldn't really know how to work it and it costs quite a sum and then it sits here and i cannot use it effectively to get my money back out of it so i'd rather not toy around with it. BUT i can let you have all my research knowledge from my own desaster last week. Read above.
Cheers mate and good luck for your Quest for salvation. PLease feel free to contact me if there are any more questions.
Good night.

I have exactly the same problem as you, I turned off my phone and since then It just wont turn back on no charging light nothing except a small vibrate for half a second when I remove the battery and reinsert it.
Have you found any solution at all?

Hello maximillion,
Read my post above yours. If you happen to be in Germany contact the Ebay guy I linked to. He's good and your phone probably is just bricked. Happens sometimes.
If you are not in Germany I recommend searching your local Ebay for someone who does JTAG repairs. Or check for the search term "riff box" and "jtag".
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