I'm pretty sure my Droid X is completely dead. I've been running Liberty 1.5 for a few weeks now with no problem. I hadn't done anything new since flashing Liberty; no flashing, rooting, nothing.
So it came as a huge surprise when I plugged my phone into a charger and everything went black. I can't turn it on, I can't enter recovery, I can't even enter the bootloader. I've tried leaving the phone on the factory charger for a few hours (nothing), I've tried leaving the battery out for a few hours (nothing).
Is my phone a paperweight?
Is the charger defective? Is your battery defective? I.E it is completely dead and wont charge or charger isn't outputting and DC voltage?
malek9696 said:
I'm pretty sure my Droid X is completely dead. I've been running Liberty 1.5 for a few weeks now with no problem. I hadn't done anything new since flashing Liberty; no flashing, rooting, nothing.
So it came as a huge surprise when I plugged my phone into a charger and everything went black. I can't turn it on, I can't enter recovery, I can't even enter the bootloader. I've tried leaving the phone on the factory charger for a few hours (nothing), I've tried leaving the battery out for a few hours (nothing).
Is my phone a paperweight?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you know anyone else with a Droid X? Your battery may have just completely died. Try another battery for the X, or even go into a Verizon store and see if they can give you a battery just to confirm if it is a battery issue or not.
The phone "shouldn't" just die if you haven't done anything to it...while there are extreme cases with weird occurances, the phone shouldn't just magically stop working.
joebob296 said:
Is the charger defective? Is your battery defective? I.E it is completely dead and wont charge or charger isn't outputting and DC voltage?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been trying several different chargers with no success. I haven't had a chance to try a new battery yet.
SysAdmin-X said:
Do you know anyone else with a Droid X? Your battery may have just completely died. Try another battery for the X, or even go into a Verizon store and see if they can give you a battery just to confirm if it is a battery issue or not.
The phone "shouldn't" just die if you haven't done anything to it...while there are extreme cases with weird occurances, the phone shouldn't just magically stop working.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll try a different battery when I get a chance.
I was hoping it really didn't just magically die, that would be horrible. But the battery seems like an odd problem since it was at 30% when I plugged it in.
Well, my phone was dead. I took it to verizon where they tried a brand new battery and it still didn't do anything. The clerk even put my battery in another droid x and it started up fine.
So, on to the next droid x, which hopefully won't magically die on me.
Sounds like you had some kind of hardware failure, in my opinion. Quite unfortunate.
Dear friend,
I obviously have a Droid x also. I've got some good news for you. This happened to me before (although at that time, the phone was not rooted, but I don't think it has anything to do with it) I took the phone to Verizon and what they said is that the battery had completely died. They put a different battery and the phone worked just fine.
Good luck!
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
Dear "Good Luck!",
Many people find it enlightening to read posts between the initial post that contains the dilema and the Quick Reply box at the bottom of the page....or read any additional posts that reside under the "reply" button to the initial post that contains the dilema. Howthehellever, thanks for providing the opportunity for humor and wackiness to ensue.
signed,
Dear Friend
jazaddict said:
Dear "Good Luck!",
Many people find it enlightening to read posts between the initial post that contains the dilema and the Quick Reply box at the bottom of the page....or read any additional posts that reside under the "reply" button to the initial post that contains the dilema. Howthehellever, thanks for providing the opportunity for humor and wackiness to ensue.
signed,
Dear Friend
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Got sand in your pants?
It's the man's second post, he was trying to be helpful, and you're already trolling him.
Try something like this instead: "As noted in a post above, Verizon was able to rule out the battery as the cause of the failure. Please try to check if a thread is already resolved, before bumping it again".
/Manners are free; as are cliches.
No sand here....perhaps a bit where you're sittin Blade?
Just havin a little fun while communicating the same thing. I'll try to keep it humorless and terse as in your example.
btw Malek, sorry to hear of your troubles....
jazaddict said:
No sand here....perhaps a bit where you're sittin Blade?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wish. The beach and a beer, sounds good to me.
@jazzaddict
First of all, like bladebarrier(thanks to him by the way) said, I was just trying to help, because I know how it sucks when you think your phone is bricked. Second, yesterday was my first time using the xda app (I'm new to the site and forums in general), I didn't pay much attention that the question was already answered, although I should have.
I can't find anything wrong with saying "dear friend" or "good luck", it doesn't hurt to be polite or friendly. May be these words fits better in a letter than in a forum, but I'm still learning a new thing everyday because English is not my first language.
With all due respect, you remind me of the majority of people who comment on Yahoo news, they always have an attitude.
Thank you.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
Related
Sorry for my english but it's not my first language, even not second, so apologies.
So my problem... i don't like to post and don't post so much but i'm here every day. I have some devices and i love flashing and trying every new rom. I'm not a noob and nor dev. Just a simple user who's second life everyday is xda.
I just want to know if my HD2 is bricked or not. So the phone do not boot up, screen do not turn on, button backlight, or charging led. Nothing. It was installed with magldr. First i was thinking that battery was dead and with magldr do not charge and that's why do not boot. But no... today i have bought from somebody a docking charger with spare battery charger and 2 batteries. No luck. I have disassembled my leo and took a look in it. If i try to turn on i see that the vibration motor turns on for a half of second and than nothing happens.
I'ts not so very big problem if it is bricked (while i have a DHD, an SE xperia neoV, an asus tf101g, and next week i will buy a galaxy nexus too) but i don't want to take it in box if it can be bringed back to life. I just want to know what can cause this , if somebody knows what can i try feel free to answer.
P.S. no do not boots in bootloader also. Last time was installed with android via magldr, no OC, and all happend when i was driving my car using navigation on it. Simply turned off. It seem like the bootloader was deleted or don't know. Also battery pins checked. It can be defective mainboard or what???
Thanx in advance.
Sent from my Transformer TF101G using Tapatalk
Looks as mainboard died. Sometimes car charger can kill the phone
kliko kliktoris said:
Looks as mainboard died. Sometimes car charger can kill the phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah i agree with you but then why is vibration motor moving? Also i know that it doesn't matter but i have the original car charger from htc, and the phone was not plugged in, battery was at starting the navigation app at about 80% and after 10 minutes was the phone dead.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using Tapatalk
rapman172003 said:
battery was at starting the navigation app at about 80% and after 10 minutes was the phone dead.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
a few times on both by hd2's, I've come across a situation where some app/process hangs, the phone freezes or becomes really sluggish, and the phone starts to get hot at the bottom on the back. I always pull teh battery smartish, but perhaps yours did the same, and it burned itself out. Its well known that the hd2 suffers from heat.
Perhaps give the freezer trick a go, see what happens.
rapman172003 said:
Sorry for my english but it's not my first language, even not second, so apologies.
So my problem... i don't like to post and don't post so much but i'm here every day. I have some devices and i love flashing and trying every new rom. I'm not a noob and nor dev. Just a simple user who's second life everyday is xda.
I just want to know if my HD2 is bricked or not. So the phone do not boot up, screen do not turn on, button backlight, or charging led. Nothing. It was installed with magldr. First i was thinking that battery was dead and with magldr do not charge and that's why do not boot. But no... today i have bought from somebody a docking charger with spare battery charger and 2 batteries. No luck. I have disassembled my leo and took a look in it. If i try to turn on i see that the vibration motor turns on for a half of second and than nothing happens.
I'ts not so very big problem if it is bricked (while i have a DHD, an SE xperia neoV, an asus tf101g, and next week i will buy a galaxy nexus too) but i don't want to take it in box if it can be bringed back to life. I just want to know what can cause this , if somebody knows what can i try feel free to answer.
P.S. no do not boots in bootloader also. Last time was installed with android via magldr, no OC, and all happend when i was driving my car using navigation on it. Simply turned off. It seem like the bootloader was deleted or don't know. Also battery pins checked. It can be defective mainboard or what???
Thanx in advance.
Sent from my Transformer TF101G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Contact this user. He had bricked and fixed his HD2 somewhere in Gegmany
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1102297
Sorry for ur hd2 but as I heard that maximum flashing for hd2 are 100 timea till it break. How often did u flash ur hd2?
Sent from my Mighty HTC HD2 using XDA App
taufan36 said:
Sorry for ur hd2 but as I heard that maximum flashing for hd2 are 100 timea till it break. How often did u flash ur hd2?
Sent from my Mighty HTC HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think thats just some kind of myth. I bet I have flashed my HD2 OVER 150 times, a lot of experimenting of windows mobile, and later went on to Android. I did have a problem with a HD2 to vibrate 5/7 times and then freeze, in any way. Even when I flashed. I had trouble booting it too, but removing the battery for 30 minutes worked.
Thanks for your answer. I will contact him maybe he can help me.
I think too that the flashing limit is just a myth. I was flashing roms more than 300times and with no issues. My Leo was a survivor two times made bath and even after was fully functioning. Last months i was using just for gps and playing with roms.
If i can't fix it i want to give it for somebody from hd2 forums. If you are near Gütersloh in germany and you were contributing with something for Hd2 community feel free contact me and i will give you for free. No shipment because i can't send it, but if you are from other country and you have somebody that can send it to you tell him to come here contact me and we will see what we can do. There is the phone, 3batteries, docking station with one extra place for battery charge, original and silicon case.
I WANT TO WAIT ONE WEEK FROM NOW IF I CAN'T FIX IT I WILL TELL YOU AND EVERYBODY CAN CONTACT ME. REMEMBER THAT YOU MUST BE A DEV OR THEMER BECAUSE I WON'T GIVE IT FOR EVERYDAY USER WHO DID NOTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY. I CAN'T DONATE, LET THIS BE MY DONATION.
THANKS
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
Mate, i am from Hannover, which is not too far off your location. I might be able to help you with some advice. I am under pressure at work at the moment and cant reply in detail now but hang in there i will get back to you asap. Sorry cannot help right now.
There is two possible causes i can think of.
and btw: the flashing counter is not a myth. the Chip counts the number of flashes. But i don't think it has a kill switch. That is bull****. It's just for HTC to tell how often it was flashed and judge what users did to it.
Sneakyghost said:
and btw: the flashing counter is not a myth
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Source? Never heard of this before. (Also, surely only ruu based flashes would register, the firmware wouldn't see android flashes, so it would be a hugely incorrect figure)
Sneakyghost said:
Mate, i am from Hannover, which is not too far off your location. I might be able to help you with some advice. I am under pressure at work at the moment and cant reply in detail now but hang in there i will get back to you asap. Sorry cannot help right now.
There is two possible causes i can think of.
and btw: the flashing counter is not a myth. the Chip counts the number of flashes. But i don't think it has a kill switch. That is bull****. It's just for HTC to tell how often it was flashed and judge what users did to it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok thanks for your fast reply i'm here every day. When you have time drop me a pm and we will see what to do. There is no rush.
Thank you one more time.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
samsamuel said:
Source? Never heard of this before. (Also, surely only ruu based flashes would register, the firmware wouldn't see android flashes, so it would be a hugely incorrect figure)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Samsamuel,
good question. It is something i came across recently when my device got killed and i bought a new one with a brick. I did a lot of research (tried to find a way to get rid of the brick myself) but since the mentioning of the counter was something of little interest to me at the time i didn't take note of where i read it. It might be only HearSay and not be a proven fact, additionally, i was thinking the same about the RUU flashes and the android flashes. Most likely only the RUU flashes are counted. Maybe the part of the chip that holds the clocks for call time counting also holds a flash counter? Something i find a reasonable assumption. Further, i read about it in the environment of the whole jtag-programming world where i think i came across a page stating that their programming box resets the flash counters. i can't remember if that was the RIFF box or some other lesser known box. The RIFF box at last does not seem to feature it if i look it up now.
So, long story short, it might also just be a marketing gag for those believing in the Myth of a killswitch. As i said, i don't believe that but think flash counters aren't that far off reality and to answer your question: i cannot prove it. I just read it somewhere.
---------- Post added at 09:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:55 PM ----------
rapman172003 said:
Ok thanks for your fast reply i'm here every day. When you have time drop me a pm and we will see what to do. There is no rush.
Thank you one more time.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok here is a random search results collection of threads with similar issues related to overheating and broken solder Points on the CPU. You can read through them to get an idea of whats coming up to you.
Number 1
Number 2
Number 3 - by far the best one on overheating and breaking/fixing the CPU solder points!
And here the Help i can offer you for the scenario where your HD2 is "just" a brick - which is way more easy to fix! This is the Guy who successfully unbricked my HD2:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/HTC-Bootload...TAG-/320848960362?pt=PDAs&hash=item4ab4169b6a
BIG RED HINT: This guy has just bought himself an Infrared soldering station which could be used to re-solder the BGA connections for the CPU if them are broken! Read more about it on Link 3 up above. That dude is MASSIVE! Respect for his work is the word of the day! If you ask that guy with the soldering station he might be interested in doing a try on your device. He's learning, you are gaining if he succeeds. If he doesn't he still learned something and you helped the community by making him smarter
And there is another one in Austria who knows more about the Device and the possibilities and he was the first one ever to mention a HTC WhiteCard (for real, i searched the net and didn't find that term anywhere), i have never heard of that before but it seems to be a universal sim card that can set any HTC device S-OFF and according to that dude it costs a sum with 5 digits and he got one. It does exactly the same as the XTC Clip. amazing story anyhow , he is called Harald Kubovy and can be contacted here: Entsperren.net
Why did i not choose him? Further away, longer wait, 5 euros more. But he seemed to know A LOT.
And one last note: i don't think it is necessary for you to come over to my place as i cannot directly help you. I am not the kinda guy who fixes hardware. I fiddle around with software a lot and i am VERY tempted to buy a RIFF Box but then again i wouldn't really know how to work it and it costs quite a sum and then it sits here and i cannot use it effectively to get my money back out of it so i'd rather not toy around with it. BUT i can let you have all my research knowledge from my own desaster last week. Read above.
Cheers mate and good luck for your Quest for salvation. PLease feel free to contact me if there are any more questions.
Good night.
I have exactly the same problem as you, I turned off my phone and since then It just wont turn back on no charging light nothing except a small vibrate for half a second when I remove the battery and reinsert it.
Have you found any solution at all?
Hello maximillion,
Read my post above yours. If you happen to be in Germany contact the Ebay guy I linked to. He's good and your phone probably is just bricked. Happens sometimes.
If you are not in Germany I recommend searching your local Ebay for someone who does JTAG repairs. Or check for the search term "riff box" and "jtag".
Sent from my TBD Runny 3.5 themed
Hi guys!
Just wanted to share my pain, hope you won´t mind...
This is what happened:
Yesterday I came home from work, pulled my S3 out of my pocket and saw it was turned off. I tried to turn it on, but no luck. The phone was dead! Tried pulling the battery out, leaving it alone for more than 10 mins... tried to boot it into recovery - nothing. Tried the download mode - no signs of life at all. It was just a shiny brick! Putting it on charger didn´t help. No reaction, no led flashing, NOTHING! And just half an hour before everything was fine.
I was running the latest official AOKP build the last couple of days, so I really don´t believe that the software has something to do with it since I didn´t flash anything yesterday. The other question is now if the Samsung guys will notice that the phone wasn´t running stock software and that the warranty is actually void... I hope they won´t! But if they too won´t be able to turn it on, I guess they won´t!
I took the phone to the Samsung service center this morning and didn´t receive any feedback yet. As soon as I know something I´ll share it.
Did anyone happen something similar to this?
awww sorry to hear that , i am sure its covered in warranty
I don't understand the warranty thing, if the phone is dead and not due to you installing a Rom or kernel or modding it then can't really see any reason to refuse fixing or replacing it.
If however it was because of the reason that you did install things then I can see how the warranty is void.
Hope you get it seen to
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
In 2013, rooting won't be illegal. Too bad it happened to your device, that is just bad luck.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
i don't know where you live but i'm pretty sure rooting is not illegal anywhere it just voids your warranty. removing the simlock is an entirely different story
Has happened to me too, 1 week after purchase (got stuck on the Samsung Galaxy SIII on boot). Got mine replaced right there and then but i'm left wondering about the quality of the phone. I get it that there are always problems with every product but i see so many people reporting the same lately i start thinking it may be chronic. Some component failing or some batch where something went wrong..
Sorry to hear that, they are an absolute pain in the ass with warranty in my country. They didn't even want to replace mine because the dude was claiming the back of my phone was slightly scratched (i wasn't, even) and they are quite anal about modded phones but, wish you the best of lucks!
Jcossack88 said:
In 2013, rooting won't be illegal. Too bad it happened to your device, that is just bad luck.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could you please be a little bit more precise? Is this a rumor or a new law to get passed?
exaclty the same happened to me. just in the middle of the day i realized that my sg3 was off. tried to turn it on but it didnt react. later at home i tried to charge but had the same bad result.
my biggest problem was, that it was rooted and running on a custom firmware since they tell you at every point, that you lose your warranty doing that...
after several hours of trying / searching and reading i became sure, that it would be an hardware fault and sent it to a local cellphone-support center.
they needed about 2 weeks to find out the problem, order a new main board, fix it and luckily didnt care about my custom firmware. they even updated it to the latest offical 4.1!
2 day ago i got it back and became happy - in this 2 weeks i realized how much i depend on this little thing
soo... i feel with you on this and good luck!
ch0ka said:
Could you please be a little bit more precise? Is this a rumor or a new law to get passed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is for the US, YMMV. Droid Life Article/
budx said:
exaclty the same happened to me. just in the middle of the day i realized that my sg3 was off. tried to turn it on but it didnt react. later at home i tried to charge but had the same bad result.
my biggest problem was, that it was rooted and running on a custom firmware since they tell you at every point, that you lose your warranty doing that...
after several hours of trying / searching and reading i became sure, that it would be an hardware fault and sent it to a local cellphone-support center.
they needed about 2 weeks to find out the problem, order a new main board, fix it and luckily didnt care about my custom firmware. they even updated it to the latest offical 4.1!
2 day ago i got it back and became happy - in this 2 weeks i realized how much i depend on this little thing
soo... i feel with you on this and good luck!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks!
This is actually what I´m thinking... that the motherboard died... I just hope that tomorrow or on wednesday, I will at least get informed what is wrong with it... Don´t even dare to think how long it will take to have it again... And yes... I depend on it too!!! Maybe even too much!!! LOL
spotlight79 said:
Hi guys!
Just wanted to share my pain, hope you won´t mind...
This is what happened:
Yesterday I came home from work, pulled my S3 out of my pocket and saw it was turned off. I tried to turn it on, but no luck. The phone was dead! Tried pulling the battery out, leaving it alone for more than 10 mins... tried to boot it into recovery - nothing. Tried the download mode - no signs of life at all. It was just a shiny brick! Putting it on charger didn´t help. No reaction, no led flashing, NOTHING! And just half an hour before everything was fine.
I was running the latest official AOKP build the last couple of days, so I really don´t believe that the software has something to do with it since I didn´t flash anything yesterday. The other question is now if the Samsung guys will notice that the phone wasn´t running stock software and that the warranty is actually void... I hope they won´t! But if they too won´t be able to turn it on, I guess they won´t!
I took the phone to the Samsung service center this morning and didn´t receive any feedback yet. As soon as I know something I´ll share it.
Did anyone happen something similar to this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stop flashing whatever roms you don't know ,or u will suffer a sever consequence "i'm talking about hard brick" .READ FORUMS AND TUTORIALS
Mine completely died just about 2 weeks ago, stock rom but rooted. Dropped it off at a service centre and got it back today with a shiny new motherboard (and JB)... As long as it's properly dead, they can't tell what's on it as the only way to revive it is to change the innards.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
nhariamine said:
Stop flashing whatever roms you don't know ,or u will suffer a sever consequence "i'm talking about hard brick" .READ FORUMS AND TUTORIALS
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude, I´m not a noob, what happened has nothing to do with software.
I entirely accept that this is a generalism and as such is bound to attract a hoard of punters contradicting it, but in many years on these boards I can recall few if any instances where repairs have been refused due to the installation of non-standard ROMs. It is sensible for manufacturers to discourage the practice - XDA-Developers is plagued with ill-informed noobs charging off to do things beyond their technical capabilities without doing adequate research - but I suspect a refusal to play the game would be counterproductive.
That said, I would always be inclined to revert back to a stock ROM and clean up a bit if I had the option before doing a return for repair.
its the same thing that happened to my phone running cm10 about 2 days ago.
sent my phone in for repairs to samsung. they probably won't be able to find out it was modified. probably needs to change hardware to even boot the phone up.
disappointing experience. :/
by any means, did you played with the clock levels?
oc/uc?
Jcossack88 said:
In 2013, rooting won't be illegal. Too bad it happened to your device, that is just bad luck.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not illegal. You won't go to prison or even get sued (Android is not Apple). It just void your warranty.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
just got back my phone.
They fixed it even though I rooted & had custom rom installed.
Guess they couldn't tell as the phone couldn't even start up. hahah.
Now restoring the latest nandroid I had.
Nice to here that pal, hope this will not happen to anyone in future... this is my 2nd GS 3 (first broken due to Barca loss vs Madrid in August) and never had hardware problems.
So... here I am again...
Got my phone back yesterday. And it was the motherboard so they replaced it.
Man was I happy to have my phone back! But... my hapiness didn't last long.
When I came home I had to discover that now the gyroscope is not working. No autorotate whatsoever, no games that require the accelerometer...
Means they just replaced the mother board, flashed the latest firmware but didn't bother to test the device.
So tomorrow I'm going back to the service center and I'm going to yell my soul out at whoever responsible...
Unbelievable!
(screen rotation is checked, I tried calibrating the gyro, pulling out the battery, etc...)
This is such a disappointing experience... I'll think twice before buying a Samsung phone again...
today i accepted an OTA update,
i was previously root with an unlocked BL. i RDS lite back to facotry and i was unrooted, therefore thought it safe to
install update. the phone now wont turn on, no matter the combination of buttons.
i know it has a charge its been on the charger forever. no LED light of any kind, and plugging it by usb to PC has no results either.
im pretty sure i hard bricked this device.
at any rate i cant get a warranty for two reasons :
1. unlocked BL
2. denied replacement dude to crack in back glass..
so im a SOL?????
I havent heard of this procedure bricking anyone else, so maybe your phone just thinks the battery is dead. Team Black Hats factory adapter may fix this for you.
If it bricked because of the update, it's the provider's fault, so they should cover it. However, me thinks there is more to this story.
Sent from my Droid Razr M using xda app-developers app
Theres nothing more to the story.
It was on charge all night with the stock charger.. Nothing.
Phone was rooted I unrooted it. Boot loader still unlocked.
I accepted the ota and it won't do anything. I was denied a warranty replacement in store because the back glass has a crack.
Anyway the device is useless I bought an s4 today. And I'm selling the RAZR M to the highest bidder.
mustang5.0 said:
Theres nothing more to the story.
It was on charge all night with the stock charger.. Nothing.
Phone was rooted I unrooted it. Boot loader still unlocked.
I accepted the ota and it won't do anything. I was denied a warranty replacement in store because the back glass has a crack.
Anyway the device is useless I bought an s4 today. And I'm selling the RAZR M to the highest bidder.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool story. Do I believe that an OTA, by itself, bricked your phone? Nope. Have fun with that S.
if u tried to update and it died, charging it after wont do anything. so i will ask what was ur battery at when u started?
pbanj said:
if u tried to update and it died, charging it after wont do anything. so i will ask what was ur battery at when u started?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I charge it all night before work. Got up for work and on the drive to work I accepted the ota so the battery was probably at a good 97%
Im still trying to understand what happened lol
RikRong said:
Cool story. Do I believe that an OTA, by itself, bricked your phone? Nope. Have fun with that S.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But then again, nobody cares what you "believe" happened.
RikRong said:
Cool story. Do I believe that an OTA, by itself, bricked your phone? Nope. Have fun with that S.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I came here to ask for help on how to revive the phone. I didn't ask for an opinion. What I provided is a 100% accurate account of what led to my phone being bricked. In the hopes someone could give me and idea of what to do. I really could careless about your opinion of "what you believe". If you can't help then don't come here and attack me. Thanks.
mustang5.0 said:
I came here to ask for help on how to revive the phone. I didn't ask for an opinion. What I provided is a 100% accurate account of what led to my phone being bricked. In the hopes someone could give me and idea of what to do. I really could careless about your opinion of "what you believe". If you can't help then don't come here and attack me. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't worry about alpha nerd. He gets his kicks by being smarmy in nearly every thread he posts in.
Sent from my Droid Razr M using xda app-developers app
Have you tried holding down on the power, volume up and volume down buttons at the same time for about 3 secs?
mustang5.0 said:
I came here to ask for help on how to revive the phone. I didn't ask for an opinion. What I provided is a 100% accurate account of what led to my phone being bricked. In the hopes someone could give me and idea of what to do. I really could careless about your opinion of "what you believe". If you can't help then don't come here and attack me. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's no attacking. Before we even had chance to help you, you scrapped the phone and went and bought another one. When you originally posted, you didn't give any details to help us out. Personally, I don't believe only the OTA would cause a brick, but as we all know, no one cares what I think.
If your battery is good, you should be able to get into your recovery menu and restore your backup. If you can't do that, you might try to get into the fastboot menu and fastboot back to stock. If you hold the power button, volume down, and volume up at that same time, you should be able to get into the fastboot menu. When in the menu, scroll down with vol- button and choose your choice by hitting the vol+ button. If you can't get the phone to boot into FB, then you are probably stuck. However, if you can get into recovery and/or fastboot, you don't have a brick.
Jersey846 said:
Don't worry about alpha nerd. He gets his kicks by being smarmy in nearly every thread he posts in.
Sent from my Droid Razr M using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
edit: I started a pissing match, so I'll end it.
As much as I enjoy being "smarmy", I'll try to ease up so I don't hurt some kids feelings.
Dear rikrong.
First. Please read I supplied every detail I can absolutely express about my phone and what happened.
Second I do important business and there's no point in tying up time in waiting for a fix to my phone when I can get a new one. Why waste the time when I was expecting a customer to call about a $5000 job?
I'm not "some kid" and unlike you I have business to do and don't have time to troll on a forum for people seeking help with their devices. Hold your tongue and don't pass judgment on someone you don't know.
And don't worry about hurting my feelings. I GUARANTEE you don't have the mental capacity to offend me, friend.
I would like to revive the device and donate it to a family member or friend who could make better use of it than I.
To wrap this up, no button combos or ANYTHING will turn the device on, it literally is a brick, I heard of JTAG and this may be the route I will take..
mustang5.0 said:
Dear rikrong.
First. Please read I supplied every detail I can absolutely express about my phone and what happened.
Second I do important business and there's no point in tying up time in waiting for a fix to my phone when I can get a new one. Why waste the time when I was expecting a customer to call about a $5000 job?
I'm not "some kid" and unlike you I have business to do and don't have time to troll on a forum for people seeking help with their devices. Hold your tongue and don't pass judgment on someone you don't know.
And don't worry about hurting my feelings. I GUARANTEE you don't have the mental capacity to offend me, friend.
I would like to revive the device and donate it to a family member or friend who could make better use of it than I.
To wrap this up, no button combos or ANYTHING will turn the device on, it literally is a brick, I heard of JTAG and this may be the route I will take..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, that's nice, you tell me not to attack you and you come right back at me. I tried to tie it up in my last post and offer some help, but I guess you didn't get it. If you think I'm trolling, you need to put on your big girl panties and take a look at the other forums that aren't super newb friendly like these tech forums. I tried to offer peace, but you came right back at me. I also have plenty of of business to take care of every day. It just so happens that I like to come to these forums when I'm at home and finished busting my knuckles at work.
I tried to offer some help, after realizing how I did come off as an ass in my original post, but you fired right back at me. So,have fun.
I stand my my recommendation in post #2. It doesnt make sense that this procedure would brick your phone so my feeling is that its not bricked. I had a similar experience with my D2G back in day. For $10 team black hats factory adapter is worth a shot. Even if you stick with the S fixing your XT907 will fetch you more money on the market.
First off this is going to be a rant so if you guys do not want to read it then I suggest you leave now.
Also let me just clear things up, I am a 17 year old kid that needs his phone as much as possible. I am attached and I am not scared to admit it. I am very very tech savvy and know what I am doing with my phone in terms of flashing ROM's,kernels, recoveries, and rooting. I have been on androids side for over 5 years now and have been through almost every top end device. I have bricked one tablet in my past but noted to never do that again. I pay for all of my devices and work 2 jobs to counter my technology habit.
Story: One night I flashed a CM nightly as I am a pure stock android type of guy. Everything went through fine and I had a usable phone for the next few hours before I fell asleep. At about 4 in the morning I got a text and it woke me up. I went to check it and realized that my phone was incredibly hot so I figured that I would turn it off and turn it back on in about 10 minutes after it is all cooled off and then diagnose the problem. Before shutting off I also checked my battery stats with everything checking out just fine and the battery was sitting at about 65% charged. After the 10 minutes I went to turn on the phone and realized right off the bat that the charging LED was not on. Scared I tried every button combination to turn on the phone with no luck. I tried numerous chargers including my computer to even see if I could adb flash something onto it if it was software oriented with no avail. I officially had a paperweight of a phone and it wouldnt turn on nor charge.
So very frustrated and worried I contacted HTC support via online chat at about 6 my time which is 8 their time. The lady walked me through all the simple button combinations and even though I knew it would do me no good I tried them anyways. After several frustrating minutes we both gave up and the lady was starting to take about 5 minutes in between each response so after the 3 response or so I was even more frustrated. We decide to sign me up for a repair and about half way through the process she asks my age, given I am 17 she cannot finish the process which is understandable. However, this should be one of the very first starting questions rather than down the line when we are half way through the process. I digress, she tells me to call with an adult next time and also tells me about their other 2 repair options that she failed to even mention before, another very frustrating moment. Regardless we end the chat and I call back later.
A few hours later my mother calls HTC support to see what we can do and right off the bat this lady is so much more helpful and quick with her responses really knowing what she is talking about. She covers the other 2 options the person via chat failed to cover along with going very in depth as to how each process works. A $20 option seemed to suit me the best as they send you a phone immediately after receiving your phone sort of like a straight exchange. However, she tells us (My mother and I) that since HTC is running out on parts that this option isnt available at this time and to check back tomorrow as that's when the shipment of parts is coming in. So with our hands tied we hang up and I go about my day phoneless.
Fast forward to today, I go and get a loaner phone from tmobile along with a different sim. They charge me $50 dollars which will be refunded to me once I return the phone but mind you I don't have tons of money so this is an inconvenience. I call HTC again and ask them about their $20 swap option and the guy very enthusiastic gives me the description on how it works. After hearing all this I tell him that is indeed what I want to do and then that's when he tells me that bad news: HTC doesn't have enough inventory to do so leaving me with only one option, send in the phone and wait for the repair and shipping back (10-14 day process). Frustrated and running out of options (literally) I tell him to just do that. He goes over a ton of information in a short amount of time and then emphasizes that they have a very strict warranty and that if they find anything that they can conclude I did to cause the phone a shorter life span than I will be given a quote to fix my phone via email. I finally hang up but am on the edge at this point. If they cannot fix my phone for free I am going to be pissed. It will also mean that they will never receive my service again because I know for a fact that I did not cause this. A thread was made about this same exact problem so I know it wasnt a fault on my end. Regardless, I will keep you all updated.
Sorry I had to rant to someone that gets the absurdity of all this.
mj23kb24 said:
Sorry I had to rant to someone that gets the absurdity of all this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What's the absurdity? You understood the risks when you unlocked the bootloader; and in fact long before that since you're experienced with modding phones. And if HTC doesn't have inventory for the $20 swap, than there isn't anything they can do about that. Its not like they can make stock magically appear out of nowhere.
Did you try to leave the phone on the wall charger overnight, and see if the charging LED returned or you can power on, or get into bootloader?
redpoint73 said:
What's the absurdity? You understood the risks when you unlocked the bootloader; and in fact long before that since you're experienced with modding phones. And if HTC doesn't have inventory for the $20 swap, than there isn't anything they can do about that. Its not like they can make stock magically appear out of nowhere.
Did you try to leave the phone on the wall charger overnight, and see if the charging LED returned or you can power on, or get into bootloader?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just think that if it is purely a hardware issue and they deny me warranty over a software unlock then its bogus. Also I think its sad that a phone company does not have enough inventory.
I did and no power whats so ever. No charging LED and phone just sit off, I would love to even get into the bootloader at this point or to even see any signs of life.
mj23kb24 said:
I just think that if it is purely a hardware issue and they deny me warranty over a software unlock then its bogus. Also I think its sad that a phone company does not have enough inventory.
I did and no power whats so ever. No charging LED and phone just sit off, I would love to even get into the bootloader at this point or to even see any signs of life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Running completely different software on your phone can cause hardware problems. There are so many different variables that could have gone wrong, leading your phone to overheat. Especially considering it was a Nightly.
"...if they find anything that they can conclude I did to cause the phone a shorter life span than I will be given a quote to fix my phone via email."
Overclocking at all will reduce the life span. Which I'm not saying you have, but it's pretty much common practice around here. (I certainly have)
Maybe you should take the warning it gives you about unlocking your phone more seriously. And not blame HTC for wanting to fix a problem you caused.
xxquicksh0txx said:
Running completely different software on your phone can cause hardware problems. There are so many different variables that could have gone wrong, leading your phone to overheat. Especially considering it was a Nightly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess so. I just figured that many other HTC phones have had this problem in the past (Including the M8) so it was just something on their end.
Also I have never OC'ed but have UC'ed.
mj23kb24 said:
I just think that if it is purely a hardware issue and they deny me warranty over a software unlock then its bogus. Also I think its sad that a phone company does not have enough inventory.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ideologically I agree that they should not deny you warranty for a hardware issue. But its the terms of their warranty and the terms of the bootloader unlock (both of which are spelled out clearly) that you have voided the warranty.
Keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best.
Mhm, stuff like this is a large part of why they try to lock phones down in the first place.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
redpoint73 said:
Ideologically I agree that they should not deny you warranty for a hardware issue. But its the terms of their warranty and the terms of the bootloader unlock (both of which are spelled out clearly) that you have voided the warranty.
Keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will do man thanks. Many people have brought up points on here that I was tunnel visioned too. I do still think that it was a rare hardware fluke though.
Thread closed as these are classed as off topic threads,
Many thanks,
Ghost
I have discovered my PH-1 has an unusual problem. If the phone is powered off for a day or two it loses a substantial amount of battery. I found this out when I switched back to my S8+ while on a trip and when I went to switch back to the PH-1 it was down to 60 something percent battery when it was at 100 percent when I powered it down.
This is new behavior as it wasn't doing this when I got it.
Thinking it was a fluke I repeated the exercise a few times with the same result. I reached out to Essential support but because I purchased the phone used (off Swappa) they told me to pee up a rope after making me jump through hoops for week.
I tried a hard reset, re-applying the latest patch, and re-flashing the latest Pie via fastboot. Nothing has worked which makes me believe it is a hardware issue.
Just for laughs I powered up my Nexus 5X which has been powered off for months and it was still at 100% battery.
Anyone have anything I can try? I really like this phone but now can't trust it.
I guess as this is the second time I got burned buying a used phone (first Google and now Essential) I will stop using Swappa. The manufactures will not help so you are on your own when you have issues. I realize the manufactures aren't obligated to help second hand device owners but it still sucks when you have issues not of your own making and they blow you off.
That sucks.
Ideally the seller should have been open enough in the description and have explained that this problem exists. I don't know how it works with Swappa as I never used it, but on eBay you can try and work it out with the seller or even open a case saying the phone is faulty. Your best bet is to contact the person who you bought it from and ask if they have an original proof of purchase, or if they're willing for you to send the phone back for a full refund.
It really sounds to me like a battery issue which would be a definite cause for an RMA, I've not seen anyone mention this problem before though.
Sent from my PH-1 using XDA Labs
I'm not sure the seller knew of the problem as it wasn't behaving like this when I first received it. I'm not really blaming either the seller or Swappa. No OEM is going to help you out if you purchased second hand. It's a potential pitfall that purchasers need to be aware of. I was aware of it and still got burned.
I would really like to find a way to resurrect this phone as I loved it. But I won't buy another one. Short of trying to replace the battery I just have run out of things to try.
One thing to try would be to see if it does it with no user installed applications whatsoever.
I'd factory reset it and uninstall everything and see if you still get the drain.
Given that it seems to happen when the phone is off I doubt it's an application, but it doesn't seem like you have many other options.
TimboC2000 said:
One thing to try would be to see if it does it with no user installed applications whatsoever.
I'd factory reset it and uninstall everything and see if you still get the drain.
Given that it seems to happen when the phone is off I doubt it's an application, but it doesn't seem like you have many other options.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks but I've already went that route. I re-flashed that latest Pie image and didn't sign in or install anything. Same issue. I'm pretty sure the battery is toast.
grumpygoof said:
I'm not sure the seller knew of the problem as it wasn't behaving like this when I first received it. I'm not really blaming either the seller or Swappa. No OEM is going to help you out if you purchased second hand. It's a potential pitfall that purchasers need to be aware of. I was aware of it and still got burned.
I would really like to find a way to resurrect this phone as I loved it. But I won't buy another one. Short of trying to replace the battery I just have run out of things to try.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OEM might help if the device is still in warranty and whoever you bought it from has the original purchase receipt. Or they have a system like OnePlus where all you need is a screenshot of the order, doesn't matter who owns the actual device.
I try to buy phones in new condition, or at least make sure there's some warranty left plus a purchase receipt of some kind.
Unfortunately changing the battery isn't an option, Essential Phone has no spare parts available so I doubt you'd be able to find one for replacement. Your best bet is to contact the buyer and try to get a proof or purchase off them, or just live with the issue. If you have the phone as a daily driver it won't bother you too much right? Do you feel like the phone drains battery quickly when it's on as well? What kind of Screen on Time do you get with it?
Sent from my PH-1 using XDA Labs
geko95gek said:
OEM might help if the device is still in warranty and whoever you bought it from has the original purchase receipt. Or they have a system like OnePlus where all you need is a screenshot of the order, doesn't matter who owns the actual device.
I try to buy phones in new condition, or at least make sure there's some warranty left plus a purchase receipt of some kind.
Unfortunately changing the battery isn't an option, Essential Phone has no spare parts available so I doubt you'd be able to find one for replacement. Your best bet is to contact the buyer and try to get a proof or purchase off them, or just live with the issue. If you have the phone as a daily driver it won't bother you too much right? Do you feel like the phone drains battery quickly when it's on as well? What kind of Screen on Time do you get with it?
Sent from my PH-1 using XDA Labs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know if I can still contact the seller or not. I can talk to someone at Swappa and find out. That actually is a good idea and worth trying. I haven't run the phone as a daily driver since I discovered the issue because of all the testing Essential made me do and my own experimentation. It does seem to drain more quickly but at this stage I can't be sure.
I may just use it as a very fast and expensive mp3 player.
I just thought I would update this thread. Thanks to CamoGeko I decided to pursue the Swappa angle and contacted them and asked them if they would contact the seller on my behalf which they have done. I made clear that I was not accusing the seller and was just hoping for his assistance. I have heard from the seller and he may have some documentation and is checking into it. It may or may not fly with Essential but it is the only avenue I have left so why not give it a go.
I'll update the thread again once I have more information.
grumpygoof said:
I just thought I would update this thread. Thanks to CamoGeko I decided to pursue the Swappa angle and contacted them and asked them if they would contact the seller on my behalf which they have done. I made clear that I was not accusing the seller and was just hoping for his assistance. I have heard from the seller and he may have some documentation and is checking into it. It may or may not fly with Essential but it is the only avenue I have left so why not give it a go.
I'll update the thread again once I have more information.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's great to hear. Hopefully they can provide proof of purchase which means you'll be able to get a replacement device from Essential!
Good luck and hope you get something sorted.
Sent from my PH-1 using XDA Labs
Well even though the original purchaser helped me out and got me a copy of his invoice Essential still told me to take a hike. Soooo I am officially out of options.
grumpygoof said:
I have discovered my PH-1 has an unusual problem. If the phone is powered off for a day or two it loses a substantial amount of battery. I found this out when I switched back to my S8+ while on a trip and when I went to switch back to the PH-1 it was down to 60 something percent battery when it was at 100 percent when I powered it down.
This is new behavior as it wasn't doing this when I got it.
Thinking it was a fluke I repeated the exercise a few times with the same result. I reached out to Essential support but because I purchased the phone used (off Swappa) they told me to pee up a rope after making me jump through hoops for week.
I tried a hard reset, re-applying the latest patch, and re-flashing the latest Pie via fastboot. Nothing has worked which makes me believe it is a hardware issue.
Just for laughs I powered up my Nexus 5X which has been powered off for months and it was still at 100% battery.
Anyone have anything I can try? I really like this phone but now can't trust it.
I guess as this is the second time I got burned buying a used phone (first Google and now Essential) I will stop using Swappa. The manufactures will not help so you are on your own when you have issues. I realize the manufactures aren't obligated to help second hand device owners but it still sucks when you have issues not of your own making and they blow you off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had the same issue with the battery drain after turn off the phone. In my case, I waited until the empty battery.
After 8 hours without battery I plug the phone to the charger and the issue was gone. In my case was after the security update 5 july in Android 8.1.
chris1871 said:
I had the same issue with the battery drain after turn off the phone. In my case, I waited until the empty battery.
After 8 hours without battery I plug the phone to the charger and the issue was gone. In my case was after the security update 5 july in Android 8.1.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe I'm not out of options after all. I hadn't heard of that before but your solution certainly seems worth a try. I will let the battery drain and see what happens. Thanks for the post.
grumpygoof said:
Maybe I'm not out of options after all. I hadn't heard of that before but your solution certainly seems worth a try. I will let the battery drain and see what happens. Thanks for the post.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wait 8 hours without battery. After that plug the phone to charger, it's the only trick
Thanks. I will give that a shot. I left it on overnight and it lost 30% of its charge sitting there doing nothing. No radios were turned on.
grumpygoof said:
Thanks. I will give that a shot. I left it on overnight and it lost 30% of its charge sitting there doing nothing. No radios were turned on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you leave the phone without a battery for 8 hours before reloading it?
chris1871 said:
Did you leave the phone without a battery for 8 hours before reloading it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. I haven't gotten that far yet. I'm trying to drain is completely. I'm not using the phone so it's taking longer than I would like. It's weird, it drops 20-30% overnight but doesn't seem to drain excessively while powered on.
chris1871 said:
Did you leave the phone without a battery for 8 hours before reloading it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok. I got it to drain completely and let it sit for about 15 hrs. Charging it now. I'll report back when I have some info. Thanks for the suggestion. Even if it doesn't work for me it was certainly worth trying.
I am really curious to see the outcome. Thanks for the updates.
Konnalynn said:
I am really curious to see the outcome. Thanks for the updates.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As am I. I recharged it and now need to let it sit powered off for a few days. I'll report back after that.
grumpygoof said:
As am I. I recharged it and now need to let it sit powered off for a few days. I'll report back after that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was looking up reviews to decide if I should buy one of these and found this forum. I hope for a good result because I have heard some positive things about this phone. Other than this do you have any other input about it?