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MDA Pro locks up unexpectadly!! Anyone else had this experience? My wifes MDA Pro for no apparent reason freezes or lock-up 2 - 3 times a day and then requires a soft-reset to be operational again. I every other aspect, it works perfectly, it's just those damn lock-ups. It results in missed calls etc, as the phone is then out of action and one wouldn't be aware of it until you pick it up to use it.
Have exchanged this phone twice in 2 weeks because of it! I believe it's the ROM, even though when not locked-up, it performs extremely well. I am considering flashing the ROM with the Jasjar Rom, as this is now stable.
Anyone tried and had success in doing this, and if so, how do you find it after the upgrade?
Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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Hi simba:Thanks for the response.
That's great that you no longer suffer these issues of 'lock-ups', but do you know exactly what .cabs are omitted from install? The reason I ask, is that when you do this process on the jasjar ROM, you loose 3G video calling and the dialler skin. Have you noticed anything like that as yet?
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
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mackaby007 said:
simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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Hi simba:Thanks for the response.
That's great that you no longer suffer these issues of 'lock-ups', but do you know exactly what .cabs are omitted from install? The reason I ask, is that when you do this process on the jasjar ROM, you loose 3G video calling and the dialler skin. Have you noticed anything like that as yet?
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
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Unfortunately I can not answer your question. I do not use 3G video calling. Also I did not missed any apps of T-mobile yet. I even noticed that without the extended rom apps, MSN is present on my MDA Pro. Probably when installing the extended rom, it removes MSN.
I have read on the forum that members have succeeded in getting the MDA Pro updated to Jasjar Rom. Be carefull tough, as your are actually 'killing' your MDA Pro and then reviving it.
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simba said:
I have read on the forum that members have succeeded in getting the MDA Pro updated to Jasjar Rom. Be carefull tough, as your are actually 'killing' your MDA Pro and then reviving it.
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Please elaborate. 'Killing the MDA Pro'? What just by flashing the ROM? :?
It's important I learn what you mean, because I'm seriously contemplating this exact move, as I'm tired of exchanging my wifes Pro for yet another one!
It's not dangerous. I am a girl and I challenge you to do it.
Anyway, if you need me to send the files that I used for flashing my MDA pro, just tell me, I could send/upload it. I keep it because *someone* (read PM) might need it later.
Re:Here we go!!
dianna_wills said:
It's not dangerous. I am a girl and I challenge you to do it.
Anyway, if you need me to send the files that I used for flashing my MDA pro, just tell me, I could send/upload it. I keep it because *someone* (read PM) might need it later.
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You're on!! :roll: The fact that you're a 'girl' means nothing to me. You're obviously a techie and that makes you one of the guys as far as I'm concerned! Had to say that....my wifes standing over me with a pick-axe :lol: Thanks for your reply. PM'd you back. About to get cracking!! :wink:
I can live with it!!
And there's me thinking it's a simple procedure like upgrading the ROM on the jasjar! Stupid me!
No way am I chancing a patched version of the ROM update and hoping I don't retire my wifes' Pro. I think we'll wait till November and use the t-mobile ROM when it comes out. Thanks all the same diana_wills. You're obviously more than just a techie....you've got bigger nuts than I'll have left if I get this wrong!
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Re: Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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I've done this and noticed there is alot more free RAM too!
One question tho, does anyone know where to get the intelli dialler for WM2K5?
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hollinshead said:
simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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I've done this and noticed there is alot more free RAM too!
One question tho, does anyone know where to get the intelli dialler for WM2K5?
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Yes there is at least 40MB storage space, but no 3G video calling! What else is missing from the omitted cab installation? I noticed a performance boost as well when not installing the extRom, but without knowing for sure what is left behind, I've had to revert to the full ROM.
There isn't anything missing apart from the t-mobile ****e!
All programs etc are there
Quick tip... I found that If you let the first two cabs install THEN press reset as the third one is loading, you'll have video calling and intellidialler back, but nothing else from the ExtROM. (This is on my JasJar, can't guarantee this'll work on the MDA Pro)
Hope this helps...
Thanks sub69. From my observations of hard resetting the MDA Pro, there seem to be some vital cabs being installed later on in the install, hence my reason for reverting to the full t-mobile ROM.
One thing i noticed by avoiding the cabs install was that my device had no mms support at all, neither in inbox or programs.
Where can you download the t-mobile roms when they are available, is there a site like my-xda ?
Adam
I just updated mine to the JASJAR rom, works mint now!
Has MSN and skype too!
Also you can select network when u set it up, and it installs all mms settings!
Hello all,
last week I got my new HTC Magician, here in Austria so called "T-Mobile MDA Compact". Unfortunately I have the problem, that my device freezes from time to time (at least 1 time a day). This happens most of the time when using the T-Mobile IntelliDialer, but sometimes it happens even when I do not use the device at all.
When the problem occurs, I am not able to make or receive a call, the upper status LED is gone as well (no signal, no blinking).
When I got the device I had ROM 1.13 installed, but after I heard that maybe this could cause the problems, I installed version 1.12 from T-Mobile site, but still have the same problems.
Now I am really out of ideas, don't know what to do. It seems I am not the only one with this problem, so I am afraid it hase no sense to switch the device with a new one @ a T-Mobile shop. Or do you guys have a "good", normal running Magician w/o this bug?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Greetings, Matthias
Helle again,
As you've got the same problems on rom 1.12 & 1.13 and you got it just for a week I'd say go back and get another one. There are people with simular issues and I guess there are much more users without it, like myself.
So my advice use your warrenty, make a backup of your contacts etc. first with sprite (trial version is available) or AS or whatever, saves you a lot of times. I won't restore the apps just reinstall, maybe it is some combination of a faulty program & with a backup you get that back as well. And it gives you the chance to determine, if possible, what's causing the freeze.
Good luck, M
ok, then thanks again
Today I made a ROM update @ T-Mobile. If that did not the trick (I will look for errors the next days), then I will use my warranty and change the device itself. I hope they don't send it to technical support somewhere, but give me another one instead...
Greetings and thanks for your infos, Matthias
haimat said:
Hello all,
last week I got my new HTC Magician, here in Austria so called "T-Mobile MDA Compact". Unfortunately I have the problem, that my device freezes from time to time (at least 1 time a day). This happens most of the time when using the T-Mobile IntelliDialer, but sometimes it happens even when I do not use the device at all.
When the problem occurs, I am not able to make or receive a call, the upper status LED is gone as well (no signal, no blinking).
When I got the device I had ROM 1.13 installed, but after I heard that maybe this could cause the problems, I installed version 1.12 from T-Mobile site, but still have the same problems.
Now I am really out of ideas, don't know what to do. It seems I am not the only one with this problem, so I am afraid it hase no sense to switch the device with a new one @ a T-Mobile shop. Or do you guys have a "good", normal running Magician w/o this bug?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Greetings, Matthias
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Hi,
I have been using my Magician for almost 8-9 months .. moving from ROM version 1.11 to 1.13 WWE BigStorage (radio 1.11 to 1.13 as well).Recently (last 1mth or so) I start to notice that I have a strange problem similiar to you, my 'radio' would 'hang' where I cannot receive or make calls, can't even receive or send SMS. However, my signal (the top bar signal strengh) will still work. This is really fustrating .. because the PDA still works, I won't know when my Magician 'hangs' ... (at least until I try to send SMS or make a call).
I've downgraded to Radio 1.11 & ROM 1.11 ... I'm still facing this problem, but not as often (sometime once in 2 days). The strange thing is that my wife who is using a Magician as well, is facing the same problem (symptom arrise almost the same time together). Both our phone used to be fine.
So far, no luck trying to locate the source of the problem, and I don't think both our magician's hardware got screwed at the same time ... I have a feeling, it has something to do with GPRS ... gut feel ... but cannot confirm.
Anyone face this problem and managed to solve it, I would appreciate any pointers ... Many thanks!
Note : I don't install additional ROM software such as CallerID, etc ... I only use intellidialer.
Hello, you could be right with your GPRS feeling, I have it as well...
Is the LED of your device blinking, when you have one of these freezes?
Hi guys,
Don't know if this gets you on the right track, but a few months ago I had major memory problems with my magician. Thought it was a virus, probably was one or two today plug-ins that consumed all of my memory very rapidly. Think of plug-ins like OO journalbar. Didn't look at the led blinking I just soft-reseted to solved the prob. for a few minutes. Very inconvenience when you're navigating in a car.
Since I ditched these plug-ins eveything is fine, tried them afterwards of course & noticed the memory leaks.
When you're not using anything like those apps. it must be something else. Maybe there's something on the forum.
Cheers, M
I thought about some apps or plugins as problem source too, so I refreshed my device without installing any additional app to it -- no success. So I still have these hangups, even if I have no tool installed...
Sounds like really s..tty problem.
Does the use of gprs or phone functionalities make any difference? what happens when you skip the ext-rom installation (hard-reset & soft-reset just before the customization kicks in) & go for basic WM2003, without all the TMO apps&branding?
M
... tried this allready, but without any difference, device freezes serveral times a day. I would say it's a hardware fault, can't think of another problem source.
Yesterday I spoke with a T-Mobile tech @ T-Mobile support. He told me, he is not aware of this problem and he always had "good" devices. And he updated my ROM to latest version...
Since I still have the problem, I will change my device now and see if this makes any difference!
haimat,
I think exchanging your magician is the best option, the techi might be right in saying he only encountered good ones. Haven't found much error reports like yours, so the rest must be good (look at the bright side). Hope you can trade it directly without any hassle & enjoy your magician for the rest of it's lifetime.
Found some people with a universal with simular probs. didn't read all posts though there were so many. So can't tell you how it ended, it's about a JasJas that hangs and hangs and ...
In the meantime good luck with the change of your device.
Cheers, M
I downloaded the trial of the new phonealarm, the one that supports wm5.
It worked fine all day until I had to reset my kjam. Since then my phone won't respond to anything. Now, I'm trying to uninstall that darn thing.
So, just wanted to warn you all to stay away from it.
Cheers
No problems here been running it for over a week. There is a known issue regarding the location service that is posted on the site that will cause this. As long as you don't turn it on under settings you are fine.
thanks.
I am running version 1.3.01 since three days both on my Jasjar and KJam.
Absolutely no problem.
Regards
I have been running it on my KJam for weeks (including betas) and it is great!
I tried the beta a couple of weeks ago and found it slow'd the today screen down too much, plus other things so I took it off.
Then I installed the new release hoping the issues were fixed, and the today screen is still very slow at displaying phonealarm (probably due to WM5 than the app). When changing settings like volume, the slider moves but the number in the line you are modifying doesn't change until you click another line. It can't handle screen brightness.
And it doesn't do anything to the alarm clock function, so you'll still need another app to have a useable alarm clock. Surley, a piece of software called "PhoneAlarm" should be able to handle all "alarms" on the phone??????
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Surley, a piece of software called "PhoneAlarm" should be able to handle all "alarms" on the phone??????
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Why ??
phoneAlarm is intended to alarm you, when you have missed calls and missed messages.... not to wake you up in the morning
working great for me too been using it for quite some time but the newest wm5 version works like a charm!
Auto WLAN
I have tried to use this APP to turn the WLAN on when switching into certain modes like home and sleep. For some reason it locks up the WLAN application on the wizard. Has anyone else had this problem?
Qtek 1.6.7.1 ROM
Whenever I'm on a call I can't take notes because the the buttons that have numbers on them only do numbers during a call, no matter what application I am in. I've tried it with numlock on and I still can't type letters. Does anyone know a way around this? I'm using a black rom, does it do this on the official one? I would really like to be able to take notes during a call.
Noticed this on WM6
Which version of WM are you using? The keyboard on my Cingular 8525 with WM5 functioned normally, even during a phone calls. But the problem you described surfaced when I upgraded my 8525 to the leaked WM6 ROM on this website.
I'm hoping that when AT&T releases their official 8525 WM6 ROM upgrade that this problem is corrected.
I'm using Black Satin
I've got the same deal going on here with my WM6 Cingular USA official version...reg edit in the works?
Hey just to confirm on this issue, I have the exact same problem with when I recently upgraded to WM5 to Schaps_WM6Pro_WWE_3.57a_Full.
I also hope there is a fix for it, cause WM6 looks pretty good. Unfortunately I probably won't see WM6 from Rogers any time soon.
got the same problem with my softbank X01HTC w/ WM6.
Don't have this problem with Imate Jasjam using WM6 Black 2.5 rom
same problem here ... can anyone point me in the right direction? How about a reg dump from a working ROM? I'll do the diff if someone provides the data
There are a number of threads on this topic already. No one has yet to find a solution and some of the brightest minds are working on it. I am not one of those minds, however, I compared the registry dumps from during a call and not during a call and saw nothing that would make a difference. I would suggest "subscribing" to this thread (and the other ones to be safe) so that when someone posts an answer you will get an email. Unfourtunatly, you will also get an email when someone post "Me Too!", or even when someone is just being grumpy about the "Me Too"s.
Me too!
T-Mo 3.60 ROM has the same issue on my 8525... anyone find differently?
This has been the standard since Windows Mobile 2003. so people have been complaining about this since the Blue Angel days. The phone application that comes with WM takes control of the keyboard when there is an active call.
Using a different phone application is likely the only fix. Since most of you hate the phone application that comes with Windows, this shouldn't be heartcrushing for too many people. Which phone applications don't force this behavior? I have no idea, but I'm sure someone can let us know.
Of course, you can still use the onscreen keyboard when on a call which doesn't have this issue. I know this is painful for those of you who are morally opposed to using the stylus, though. To me, having the keyboard extended while on a call is awkward at best.
I'm not sure why this became such an active issue all of a sudden when the problem (or feature) has been around ever since the very first WM phone with a keyboard on it first appeared, although I think this is a nice indication that these devices are finally starting to catch on with new people.
You must be a very slow typer. It's a huge issue. I've ROM'ed my HTC Wizard & Hermes many times and have only had this problem with the WM6 image ... while i'm with you on it not being specific to the image or WM6, i don't agree that it's not important.
If you're saying a new phone app will fix it, i'm all about it but don't downplay the issue because it doesn't bother you.
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This has been the standard since Windows Mobile 2003. so people have been complaining about this since the Blue Angel days. The phone application that comes with WM takes control of the keyboard when there is an active call.
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I'm not sure why this became such an active issue all of a sudden when the problem (or feature) has been around ever since the very first WM phone with a keyboard on it first appeared, although I think this is a nice indication that these devices are finally starting to catch on with new people.
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It is a huge issue because with WM5 on my 8125 and on my 8525 this was NOT a problem. The letters worked as they were supposed to even during a call. It only began when I switched to to WM6. So WM6 broke something.
I didn't say this is a non-issue. But what I am saying is that this problem has been around for years.
It's possible that something from WM2003 was changed in WM2005, but made its way back into WM2006. I don't recall the problem on WM2005 on the Hermes, but I do recall it from earlier phones. But I also wasn't looking for the problem, either, and I don't generally text or do other typing when on phone calls.
Right on, has anyone found any more information about this problem?
Best I can tell it came in with all of the latest WM6 builds. Anything I've tried that's been labeled "official" or that is based on same has had the issue. I can say with certainty AT&T's WM5 didn't, nor did vp3G 2.0 (which was based on a pre-"official" build).
Beyond that, no clue.
eventually it'll get fixed.. what im really having issues now is overeating.. last night i had my phone plugged into the wall and was talking via bluetooth for about an hour and a half and my phone was extremely hot and had stopped charging.. i wish there was a fix for that and really am hoping i didn't buy a lemon 8525
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eventually it'll get fixed..
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Well, with the official TyTN ROMs having been released that way I'm beginning to have my doubts.
Does this work with the official AT&T WM6 rom? Anyone? Bueller?
hi All,
just wondering if any1 else experience the same issue like me,
my elf keep dial the latest number on call history by itself!
started 2 weeks ago
first, i use onxy ROM, phonealarm, slide to unlock and slide to play, all are latest version, after i got this issue then i reflashed with different rom (TESS), and did NOT install those 3 softwares, (i use pointui2 instead) but it still happend! now i must delete the call history as soon i finish make/receive a call..
oh, i also tried to use different radio versions. still the same.
i have elf for a year already never have this problem before. strange!
thanks
regards,
erwin