Whenever I'm on a call I can't take notes because the the buttons that have numbers on them only do numbers during a call, no matter what application I am in. I've tried it with numlock on and I still can't type letters. Does anyone know a way around this? I'm using a black rom, does it do this on the official one? I would really like to be able to take notes during a call.
Noticed this on WM6
Which version of WM are you using? The keyboard on my Cingular 8525 with WM5 functioned normally, even during a phone calls. But the problem you described surfaced when I upgraded my 8525 to the leaked WM6 ROM on this website.
I'm hoping that when AT&T releases their official 8525 WM6 ROM upgrade that this problem is corrected.
I'm using Black Satin
I've got the same deal going on here with my WM6 Cingular USA official version...reg edit in the works?
Hey just to confirm on this issue, I have the exact same problem with when I recently upgraded to WM5 to Schaps_WM6Pro_WWE_3.57a_Full.
I also hope there is a fix for it, cause WM6 looks pretty good. Unfortunately I probably won't see WM6 from Rogers any time soon.
got the same problem with my softbank X01HTC w/ WM6.
Don't have this problem with Imate Jasjam using WM6 Black 2.5 rom
same problem here ... can anyone point me in the right direction? How about a reg dump from a working ROM? I'll do the diff if someone provides the data
There are a number of threads on this topic already. No one has yet to find a solution and some of the brightest minds are working on it. I am not one of those minds, however, I compared the registry dumps from during a call and not during a call and saw nothing that would make a difference. I would suggest "subscribing" to this thread (and the other ones to be safe) so that when someone posts an answer you will get an email. Unfourtunatly, you will also get an email when someone post "Me Too!", or even when someone is just being grumpy about the "Me Too"s.
Me too!
T-Mo 3.60 ROM has the same issue on my 8525... anyone find differently?
This has been the standard since Windows Mobile 2003. so people have been complaining about this since the Blue Angel days. The phone application that comes with WM takes control of the keyboard when there is an active call.
Using a different phone application is likely the only fix. Since most of you hate the phone application that comes with Windows, this shouldn't be heartcrushing for too many people. Which phone applications don't force this behavior? I have no idea, but I'm sure someone can let us know.
Of course, you can still use the onscreen keyboard when on a call which doesn't have this issue. I know this is painful for those of you who are morally opposed to using the stylus, though. To me, having the keyboard extended while on a call is awkward at best.
I'm not sure why this became such an active issue all of a sudden when the problem (or feature) has been around ever since the very first WM phone with a keyboard on it first appeared, although I think this is a nice indication that these devices are finally starting to catch on with new people.
You must be a very slow typer. It's a huge issue. I've ROM'ed my HTC Wizard & Hermes many times and have only had this problem with the WM6 image ... while i'm with you on it not being specific to the image or WM6, i don't agree that it's not important.
If you're saying a new phone app will fix it, i'm all about it but don't downplay the issue because it doesn't bother you.
Doom Tints said:
This has been the standard since Windows Mobile 2003. so people have been complaining about this since the Blue Angel days. The phone application that comes with WM takes control of the keyboard when there is an active call.
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I'm not sure why this became such an active issue all of a sudden when the problem (or feature) has been around ever since the very first WM phone with a keyboard on it first appeared, although I think this is a nice indication that these devices are finally starting to catch on with new people.
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It is a huge issue because with WM5 on my 8125 and on my 8525 this was NOT a problem. The letters worked as they were supposed to even during a call. It only began when I switched to to WM6. So WM6 broke something.
I didn't say this is a non-issue. But what I am saying is that this problem has been around for years.
It's possible that something from WM2003 was changed in WM2005, but made its way back into WM2006. I don't recall the problem on WM2005 on the Hermes, but I do recall it from earlier phones. But I also wasn't looking for the problem, either, and I don't generally text or do other typing when on phone calls.
Right on, has anyone found any more information about this problem?
Best I can tell it came in with all of the latest WM6 builds. Anything I've tried that's been labeled "official" or that is based on same has had the issue. I can say with certainty AT&T's WM5 didn't, nor did vp3G 2.0 (which was based on a pre-"official" build).
Beyond that, no clue.
eventually it'll get fixed.. what im really having issues now is overeating.. last night i had my phone plugged into the wall and was talking via bluetooth for about an hour and a half and my phone was extremely hot and had stopped charging.. i wish there was a fix for that and really am hoping i didn't buy a lemon 8525
ericc191 said:
eventually it'll get fixed..
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Well, with the official TyTN ROMs having been released that way I'm beginning to have my doubts.
Does this work with the official AT&T WM6 rom? Anyone? Bueller?
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Hello all,
last week I got my new HTC Magician, here in Austria so called "T-Mobile MDA Compact". Unfortunately I have the problem, that my device freezes from time to time (at least 1 time a day). This happens most of the time when using the T-Mobile IntelliDialer, but sometimes it happens even when I do not use the device at all.
When the problem occurs, I am not able to make or receive a call, the upper status LED is gone as well (no signal, no blinking).
When I got the device I had ROM 1.13 installed, but after I heard that maybe this could cause the problems, I installed version 1.12 from T-Mobile site, but still have the same problems.
Now I am really out of ideas, don't know what to do. It seems I am not the only one with this problem, so I am afraid it hase no sense to switch the device with a new one @ a T-Mobile shop. Or do you guys have a "good", normal running Magician w/o this bug?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Greetings, Matthias
Helle again,
As you've got the same problems on rom 1.12 & 1.13 and you got it just for a week I'd say go back and get another one. There are people with simular issues and I guess there are much more users without it, like myself.
So my advice use your warrenty, make a backup of your contacts etc. first with sprite (trial version is available) or AS or whatever, saves you a lot of times. I won't restore the apps just reinstall, maybe it is some combination of a faulty program & with a backup you get that back as well. And it gives you the chance to determine, if possible, what's causing the freeze.
Good luck, M
ok, then thanks again
Today I made a ROM update @ T-Mobile. If that did not the trick (I will look for errors the next days), then I will use my warranty and change the device itself. I hope they don't send it to technical support somewhere, but give me another one instead...
Greetings and thanks for your infos, Matthias
haimat said:
Hello all,
last week I got my new HTC Magician, here in Austria so called "T-Mobile MDA Compact". Unfortunately I have the problem, that my device freezes from time to time (at least 1 time a day). This happens most of the time when using the T-Mobile IntelliDialer, but sometimes it happens even when I do not use the device at all.
When the problem occurs, I am not able to make or receive a call, the upper status LED is gone as well (no signal, no blinking).
When I got the device I had ROM 1.13 installed, but after I heard that maybe this could cause the problems, I installed version 1.12 from T-Mobile site, but still have the same problems.
Now I am really out of ideas, don't know what to do. It seems I am not the only one with this problem, so I am afraid it hase no sense to switch the device with a new one @ a T-Mobile shop. Or do you guys have a "good", normal running Magician w/o this bug?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Greetings, Matthias
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Hi,
I have been using my Magician for almost 8-9 months .. moving from ROM version 1.11 to 1.13 WWE BigStorage (radio 1.11 to 1.13 as well).Recently (last 1mth or so) I start to notice that I have a strange problem similiar to you, my 'radio' would 'hang' where I cannot receive or make calls, can't even receive or send SMS. However, my signal (the top bar signal strengh) will still work. This is really fustrating .. because the PDA still works, I won't know when my Magician 'hangs' ... (at least until I try to send SMS or make a call).
I've downgraded to Radio 1.11 & ROM 1.11 ... I'm still facing this problem, but not as often (sometime once in 2 days). The strange thing is that my wife who is using a Magician as well, is facing the same problem (symptom arrise almost the same time together). Both our phone used to be fine.
So far, no luck trying to locate the source of the problem, and I don't think both our magician's hardware got screwed at the same time ... I have a feeling, it has something to do with GPRS ... gut feel ... but cannot confirm.
Anyone face this problem and managed to solve it, I would appreciate any pointers ... Many thanks!
Note : I don't install additional ROM software such as CallerID, etc ... I only use intellidialer.
Hello, you could be right with your GPRS feeling, I have it as well...
Is the LED of your device blinking, when you have one of these freezes?
Hi guys,
Don't know if this gets you on the right track, but a few months ago I had major memory problems with my magician. Thought it was a virus, probably was one or two today plug-ins that consumed all of my memory very rapidly. Think of plug-ins like OO journalbar. Didn't look at the led blinking I just soft-reseted to solved the prob. for a few minutes. Very inconvenience when you're navigating in a car.
Since I ditched these plug-ins eveything is fine, tried them afterwards of course & noticed the memory leaks.
When you're not using anything like those apps. it must be something else. Maybe there's something on the forum.
Cheers, M
I thought about some apps or plugins as problem source too, so I refreshed my device without installing any additional app to it -- no success. So I still have these hangups, even if I have no tool installed...
Sounds like really s..tty problem.
Does the use of gprs or phone functionalities make any difference? what happens when you skip the ext-rom installation (hard-reset & soft-reset just before the customization kicks in) & go for basic WM2003, without all the TMO apps&branding?
M
... tried this allready, but without any difference, device freezes serveral times a day. I would say it's a hardware fault, can't think of another problem source.
Yesterday I spoke with a T-Mobile tech @ T-Mobile support. He told me, he is not aware of this problem and he always had "good" devices. And he updated my ROM to latest version...
Since I still have the problem, I will change my device now and see if this makes any difference!
haimat,
I think exchanging your magician is the best option, the techi might be right in saying he only encountered good ones. Haven't found much error reports like yours, so the rest must be good (look at the bright side). Hope you can trade it directly without any hassle & enjoy your magician for the rest of it's lifetime.
Found some people with a universal with simular probs. didn't read all posts though there were so many. So can't tell you how it ended, it's about a JasJas that hangs and hangs and ...
In the meantime good luck with the change of your device.
Cheers, M
Just received a replacement for my faulty O2 Exec and it's got a new ROM version:
ROM: 1.13.82 WWE
ROM date: 30/11/05
Radio: 1.04.02
Protocol: 42.37.P8
ExtROM version: 1.13.188 WWE
Only difference I've noticed so far is that the Personal install option has been dropped.
GREAT NEWS !!!!
Me wanna get it!
cool...
so how is it? better than ever before? ;o)))
no, seriously. is it any better?
thanx
buzz
Does it have the Blackberry WM5 Client?
Obviously, everyone is keen to know the differences/improvements/mess ups, so post up as soon as you notice anything!!
How about the bluetooth switching itself off, that should be easy to test?
buzz_lightyear said:
cool...
so how is it? better than ever before? ;o)))
no, seriously. is it any better?
thanx
buzz
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Buzz .. any chance for some dump ?
I presume that updating the ROM means that you lose all your data and basically have to start from scratch??
Updating the ROM would be like a hard reset, so you'd lose anything that wasn't backed up or on the storage card.
1 other difference in the ROM I've noticed it in the couple of hours I've had it: Error reporting and incoming beams are both turned off by default (not exactly a big deal, I know).
I've no idea if it has a blackberry client. How would I tell?
I've no need for bluetooth yet since the wife's got Tom Tom 5 under wraps until Christmas, but I've switched it on and will report back in 24 hours to see if it's switched itself off or not!
Start dreaming up your wishlist for this update Less memory leaks, less freezes on SMS receipt, less notification queue problems, less SD card problems, push email, blackberry software, stereo bluetooth... anything else?
LOL, true true - just sold my XDA2s on EBay (sadly for only £165) and I'm missing it already, just the speed, efficiency and streamlined operation is far superior to the Exec AT THE MOMENT.
I also think its ridiculous that you lose EVERYTHING when rom upgrading, imagine if upgrading to Windows Vista mean't you lost your personal data? It simply wouldn't happen so why do they believe PocketPC users should have to?
Hi Moandal, could you tell me if when you right an email from the keyboard and press the "tab" button, does it actually jump from "from" to the "message" ?
:lol:
jeux have you tried using the DOWN ARROW button?
yeah, I tried no luck, couple of other guys in another threat got that issue and I did hard reset the phone still no luck.
Back after a while away from XDA's - Anyhow, I've had the XDA exec a week and after many freeeeeeeze ups i decided to change it. Went into O2 in Bristol today and they almost admitted that the exec's had a known issue! The guy told me a 'NEW' batch had arrived today and they had been told that they should be a much more stable unit.
Gone is the personal install option and the battery bar is now on the today screen. The unit has opperated all day with no lock ups and the screen refresh when changing aspect is almost instant!!! (i've got all the same apps running so it is a level playing field)
Not much eles is obvious, but like i said it just runs much better - if any of you out ther are still within O2's exchange period then i would get one from the 'New' batch.
I'll report more when i've had a good play around
Widhill, is the new batch a software/rom update only? Or were there hardware issues with the old batch?
I guess I doubt they would tell you that much detail.
Jeux_1: Sorry I can't answer the e-mail question since I've not got e-mail set up on my Exec yet.
I've had bluetooth switched on for almost 24 hours now and it's still not switched itself off (although I haven't actually used the bluetooth). I'm not sure if this proves the bluetooth problem is fixed or not since I've not experienced the bluetooth-switching-off problem myself.
Hi Doody, It would seem that the issue is with the software not the hardware - however that is only my opinion. The new Exec seems to still be holding up and no problems yet! I give it a good going over later tonight and see if i can get to go wrong (haha). I have noticed that the O2 active program is still there but only if you tap on it in programs. The only way to get rid of it was to choose the install type again (only takes 15 secs to change and its gone) The biggest difference is the screen refresh on changing from landscape to portrait - It's Instant (well almost).
So before everyone panics - i would guess we will see a new update from O2 very soon!!!
hi Moandal,
could you please dump the ROM out of it?
If you need assistance, just let me know.
THANX
buzz
Jeux_1: I've set up email now and tab does take me from "from" to the message.
Buzz: I'll happily dump the ROM for you, but I'll need an idiot-level step by step guide!
Hi Jeux_1,
I don't have an XDA Exec, but i don't think you need the ROM upgrade to solve your problem...
I was having the same problem with my JasJar but it was solved using one of the registry hacks in Tweakz 2k2.Net
It's the hack that relates to smooth scrolling in Pocket Internet Explorer... what you need to do, is to turn it off so that PIE scrolls by link to link instead...
After which you should notice that you can easily swap between To, cc, Subject and message body in your e-mail messages....
I hope you find it useful...
Take it easy...
Not sure if there will be anymore ROM updates in 2006. Pretty much manufacturers will concentrate on their new releases.
Yes, when the 1.13 ROM was released, I heard rumours that that was the last update we're getting.
I believe you guys are right, the Magician has reached the end of its life span. But there never was a generic WWE version of the 1.13, only a few localized builds, right? And how about that weird Radio 1.13? It was never used in an official build.
Looks to me like they just suddenly said 'enough is enough' and then pulled the plug on the Magician...
Am I missing something ?
Hiya,
I saw you guys talking about Rom v1.13 and as far as I know, there is only Rom v1.12 WWE.
Is there any new release ?
Regards,
Bright Star
What exactly do you want? My 1.12 Rom together with the Radio 1.13 works just perfectly, nothing to complain about. Why people always want updates just for the updates' sake? I think we should be happy that we got such a good support for the Magician in the past - this is not common with all Pocket Pcs. I am completely satisfied with my Magician and the current software.
What exactly do you want? My 1.12 Rom together with the Radio 1.13 works just perfectly, nothing to complain about. Why people always want updates just for the updates' sake? I think we should be happy that we got such a good support for the Magician in the past - this is not common with all Pocket Pcs. I am completely satisfied with my Magician and the current software.
So ****ing true!
Re: Am I missing something ?
Bright Star said:
Hiya,
I saw you guys talking about Rom v1.13 and as far as I know, there is only Rom v1.12 WWE.
Is there any new release ?
Regards,
Bright Star
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Check the ftp or http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/service/mda_compact_upgrade.asp
It's complete with radio 1.12 & BB support in the ext-rom.
Cheers, M
The Magician still has a lot of bugs. The more you push your device, the more bugs you will find. Just check around and you will know. But there's also quite a few silly bugs, that should have been fixed ages ago.
For example:
1. A generic bug that everyone have (to the best of my knowledge): if you are in the inbox while receiving a message, the envelope at the top of the screen will have to be removed manually, since it doesn't go away automatically after you have read the message.
2. A more specific bug. I believe this one is related to the setup of your telephony provider, but I am not quite sure. Still, it is a Magician-only bug: After a reboot, a text message will have to be received before the device is 100% logged onto the network. Until then calls can't go through, but are automatically transferred to voice mail. I have this specific bug and replacing the handset didn't help. Neither did upgrading the ROM.
So saying that ppl want updates just for the updates sake, simply isn't true.
HBK said:
The Magician still has a lot of bugs. The more you push your device, the more bugs you will find. Just check around and you will know. But there's also quite a few silly bugs, that should have been fixed ages ago.
For example:
1. A generic bug that everyone have (to the best of my knowledge): if you are in the inbox while receiving a message, the envelope at the top of the screen will have to be removed manually, since it doesn't go away automatically after you have read the message.
2. A more specific bug. I believe this one is related to the setup of your telephony provider, but I am not quite sure. Still, it is a Magician-only bug: After a reboot, a text message will have to be received before the device is 100% logged onto the network. Until then calls can't go through, but are automatically transferred to voice mail. I have this specific bug and replacing the handset didn't help. Neither did upgrading the ROM.
So saying that ppl want updates just for the updates sake, simply isn't true.
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1. Cant say I've noticed.
2. Does not happen with me.
Same to me, the camera annoys me more.
Overall this is the best device I ever had.
Regards, M
HBK said:
The Magician still has a lot of bugs. The more you push your device, the more bugs you will find. Just check around and you will know. But there's also quite a few silly bugs, that should have been fixed ages ago.
For example:
1. A generic bug that everyone have (to the best of my knowledge): if you are in the inbox while receiving a message, the envelope at the top of the screen will have to be removed manually, since it doesn't go away automatically after you have read the message.
2. A more specific bug. I believe this one is related to the setup of your telephony provider, but I am not quite sure. Still, it is a Magician-only bug: After a reboot, a text message will have to be received before the device is 100% logged onto the network. Until then calls can't go through, but are automatically transferred to voice mail. I have this specific bug and replacing the handset didn't help. Neither did upgrading the ROM.
So saying that ppl want updates just for the updates sake, simply isn't true.
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1. I haven't noticed this.
2. This doesn't happen with mine.
Jeez, guys! Just because you haven't 'noticed' something, doesn't mean it isn't there! I have been a software developer and professional bug hunter since 1996, so I notice these things, simply because it's my job.
It's also my job to narrow down the bug as much as possible, and in case of bug #2, I can tell you it's related to the Magician being listed as 'busy' on some centrals until the first message is received. So for those of you on centrals with this problem (Ericsson?), just disable the 'forward on busy' setting and you should be ok...
HBK, have you seen any other people on other providers have this bug? I've never heard of it.
The message icon I know only too well, though. It annoys me but it's not a huge issue.
I'm still on 1.11WWE with radio 1.13. Haven't felt a need to upgrade to 1.12 or even the T-mobile (or whatever) 1.13.
I run heaps of programs, many made by small developers that can be a little unstable and not install too neatly but aI gotta say that the operating system isn't bad compared to Microsoft's usual standard of bugs. You just gotta take a look at the latest WMF exploit in XP, 2000 SP4 etc. They'll never get that operating system right! Ok, so can't really compare the 2 but I can't say something good about Microsoft without bashing them in the same post! That's just not me!
HBK,
No offence, but error 2 seems to be very specific though must be highly irritating when you have it. Course there are many bugs, some M$ , some Magician related. Guess we all have to live with them forever, development won't ever be faultless due to several money related aspects of which I'm sure you will encounter in your work too.
Bottomline: my Nokia's have been much more stable & reliable. My Magician is much more capable & fun and my greatest irritation is the number of soft-resets a day due to a hanging camera app. or memory leaks. Sure it's partially all my third party apps & it's a (P)PC with a M$ OS, so I won't recommend a PPC to someone who just wants a phone with some extra's. Much to unreliable/unstable/frustrating. To me it's a hobby & I can live with it. When a patch comes along I try it & judge for myself. Still I'm quite happy with it.
Can't really make out if you're pissed or not (think not), if you are pls try to relax &, I know it's difficult, try to forget your work a bit & have fun with your magician it is possible ;-)
Cheers, M
@jimmy-bish
Actually, I have heard of a few other ppl here in DK having this problem, but it is very rare. That is also the reason why everyone, including the (German) technician who worked on my Magician, thought it was a hardware bug and replaced the motherboard. This means that now I only have the cover left of my original Magician, the rest has been replaced, but still the problem remains...
I have given up on Radio 1.13, since is was never officially released. Instead I am running the latest NL release of 1.13 with Radio 1.12 and Big Storage. Only the MMS part of the Ext. ROM is installed. All in all I believe this to be the best solution, running the latest released software with as few addons as possible.
MS is like a woman: you can't live with MS, and you can't live without! Even though they create heaps of problems, I sure am happy they are here, providing a lot of software we use everyday.
@oltp
Yes, it IS very specific. But please notice that I am not running my Magician on some home made network. I am a costumer of the largest mobile telephony provider in Denmark. This means that they run officially released software on their centrals and thus each and every phone released should be able to run on it, without any exception. Of course it is the responsibility of the phone manufacturer to make sure their product runs under all normally occuring circumstances and in this case, they have failed to do so. So there you have it, a bug in the Magician.
No, I am not pissed off. Although a bit frustrated, perhaps
I can confirm that both bugs exist and still.
You still have to seperate between bugs that are caused by the OS and cannot be corrected by manufacturer specific updates and bugs that are caused by the hardware, which certainly also cannot be corrected by an update. Besides that both bugs don't sound anywhere severe to me, the first one must be OS specific, the second one - well, I didn't ever realize it and never had this behavior. My device logs into the network without problems and without having to receive any messages. I never heard about or experienced myself problems with incoming calls.
I would recommend everyone to use Radio 1.13 since 1.12 was really crappy and 1.13 made a big difference for me and many others. Since that version, I don't have anything to complain about anymore.
dandie, what specific issues did the Radio 1.13 solve for you?
Please notice that the two bugs mentioned were only used as examples. They were just on top of my head. I believe a good handfull of other bugs are already described on this forum. No doubt a lot of people experience other bugs every day, but just aren't as loud about it.
@Dandie
Of course both bugs are Magician specific, or they would have been well known on all MS Mobile sites, regardles of devices. Just like the one with the SD card being deleted by WM2003SE, from time to time.
What do you mean that it isn't a severe problem if you can't receive calls on your phone? Are you kidding?
In many countries, including Denmark, ppl on average send/receive hundreds of messages each month, so bug #1 is a problem many times each day for a lot of us.
So what is a severe problem then? Does the device have to explode in your face on a daily basis or something like that?
I used the Radio 1.13 for several months and even though it seemed ok, it didn't fix any problems. So I went back to the latest Radio released, the 1.12.
well after i upgraded to the 8525 from my old 8125 i have been trying to like this phone but its so hard... does anyone have any solutions for any of these symptoms??
dropped calls. dropped calls galore all of the time....
if i am using bluetooth and the call doesnt drop, the phone will shut bluetooth off randomly. sometimes mid-call and sometimes if i just let it sit.
any speed hacks or registry packs that i can download. i find myself missing keys while dialing because the phone simply cant keep pace with what seems to be (from my experience anyway) normal input of phone numbers.
i realloy fel bad asking all of this guys and believe me i have been trying to read up on all of this stuff and im just not getting it is there just a good complete 'package' that will upgrade all of the roms and possibly use wm6 as well? i believe that overclocking is not an option just yet but i just want to have this phone do what it should supposed to do. this site here seems to be the only support in the world for these devices and i just wish there was some class i could take to understand all of these bootloaders and stacks and everything else because i really want to learn but im just not getting it... im so frustrated- if it werent for the 3g speeds then i would just go back to the 8125 i am almost that fed up.
Check your version
I had a 8125 and upgraded to a Hermes. Initially, I was very disappointed with freezes, etc. Then I upgraded to the most recent released version 1.35 and a bunch of bugs and freezes went away. Check your version and good luck.
Hi there,
I'm new to this forum - and new to the whole Windows Mobile idea as I'm normally an avid Apple fan but I do make an exception when it comes to the phone as the iPhone (as of yet) is quite 'useless' when it comes functionality and flexibility compared to a Windows Mobile device.
In either case, I've recently flashed my MDA Vario II and, after having used Black Satin for a day or two, put on Schap's 3.60a WM6 ROM. The only reason i did not like Satin was that it combined the inbox/outbox for MMS and SMS messages (knowing my luck I'm sure there would have been an easy way around that).
Right, ever since I put on the WM6 ROM and installed a few other applications, such as Spb's Mobile Shell, Spb Weather, etc etc the phone seems to be incredibly sluggish and slow. I did a full re-set and then installed one application at a time to see if it has something to do with a particular bit of software. But I don't think that's the case as the phone acts pretty slow even with nothing installed after the hard re-set. But now, after a few days, it takes, for example, around 15seconds to show the Windows directory using either File Explorer or Resco's explorer. The start-up progress, especially the transition from the Splash Screen to the standard Home Screen is incredibly slow and happens in stages. It then takes about another 30 seconds for the keypad to come up, asking for my PIN.
I've been running all sorts of utilities such as MemMaid, PocketMechanic and SKTools to make sure that the device is in 'mint' condition but, if at all, this made little change to the overall speed.
I expected the phone to run slightly slower under WM6 compared to WM5 as, strictly speaking, the TyTN, as I understand it, was not designed with WM6 in mind - which may be the reason why a lot of providers here in the UK do not offer a WM6 upgrade. However, the phone has become uncomfortably slow and sluggish so is there any way to speed it up or is this a known issue with WM6 on the TyTN?
Also, not sure this is the right forum for this but I also tried to set up Direct Push and it works fine - only problem I have is that it does not seem to support WiFi (it does when I check manually but as soon as I utilise the Direct Push function, the phone insists to connect to the 3G network). Now this is not necessarily a big problem as I've got an unlimited data plan but when at home I am using WiFi and there is little point in having both switched on, WiFi and the Data Connection as that does drain the battery. Again, any ideas to solve this would be appreciated
Thank you guys
Hello mate,
Not sure why you are having the problems you are having. Anyway I run Schaps on my Tytn (see my sig), together with SPB products without any problems at all. The whole lot is rock solid.
My suggestion would be that you re-flash your device with the combination of ROM and Radio that I use, given I have confirmed no issues. If that works then you have at least proved your device is ok. If it doesn't work then your problem lies elsewhere, probably with the device.
Strong advice - make absolutely sure you have done all the things and taken all the precautions outlined in Mr Vanx's excellent guides (see here http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/)
I will track this thread to see how you get on.
Cheers
WB
Hello there...
How was your device under Satin? I am running Satin on an 8525, and it runs ok. Black Satin is also a WM6 rom. I am running HTC home, pocket breeze and iLauncher. SPB tends to let it slower, but not that slow for sure.
I suggest you read through the specific thread of Schaps 3.60. I am not sure, but i once read a few posts, and if i recall correctly, there were some problems with the version. Either that or 3.57... don't know for sure.
I also suggest re-flashing with a different rom. Or, read through the Satin thread here at XDA-devs or at 4winmobile, and there might be a fix for the mms/sms thingy. Then go back to Satin. There is also the Black X going on, but I think it is still beta...
Just don't forget to follow Mr. Vanx precautions, specially installing HardSPL v7, if you don't want a bricked device.
Let us know how it goes
Hey there,
Thanx for replying. I have been thinking about re-flashing the ROM but to see if that helps. I have been playing with the phone a lot so I may have somehow done something which I shouldn't have - whatever that may be :S
Can I ask ... in your sig you state that the 1.50 Radio is very buggy - what are the issues with it, cos I am using that one and was wondering if that could possibly be related to it?
Thanx for the replies guys. I've decided to re-flash the ROM and, it seems to be working fine again. I actually think the phone works slightly faster now as it did under the T-Mobile WM5 ROM. I haven't updated the Radio and stuck to 1.50 as I've read somewhere that it's working fine for the UK (lemme know if I'm wrong - they say there would be a noticable improvement in 3G reception, but I haven't seen that, but I dont seem to have any major issues with 1.50)
So, fingers crossed the phone won't slow down again - which I guess it shouldn't and I'll be careful what I install on it, making sure I have the latest versions of everything.
Thanx again for all your suggestions
Flipside,
Radio 1.50 caused me loads of problems; dropped calls, not being able to make a call for no reason, people not being able to reach me even though the phone was on and in an excellent signal area, having to reboot to get the radio to switch on, etc, etc.
Have not looked back since i went to 1.47. The lesson learnt for me was not to jump at the latest radio rom, just because its the latest. Latest does not necessarily mean best for ones particular circumstances.
Cheers
WB