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Gmail POP’ped to desktop and IMAP’ped to Wizard?

I would like to read my gmail email in MS Outlook on my computer, and while I am away from it, read the new only emails (the ones not yet downloaded to desktop) from my T-mobile MDA.
The way I understand it is done is to POP emails to desktop (which deletes them from the email server) and use IMAP on the mobile device to read whatever is not POPped yet. The problem is that Google’s Gmail does not support IMAP protocol. So how do I do this then, other than to change to an email provider who supports both POP and IMAP?

In gmail's POP service you can choose to either delete or archive email d/l by your device. You could read ur email from your pda then the email you just read would be archived into another folder.

I think what you need to do is change the settings in MS Outlook on your desktop to leave a copy of the email on the server for x number of days. On your PDA change the imap server settings to only download the last x number of messages or messages that were received in the last x number of days. I don't use a POP server anymore but you should be able to use the "tools" then "email accounts" then "view or change exisiting email accounts" and look for something along the lines of leave copy/copies of email on the server so that way Outlook doesn't delete them from the server.... In terms of the POP settings on the PDA make sure that it is never deleting emails off the server otherwise you are going to be faced with "dissapearing" email messages.
Hopefully this helps or someone else can be more helpful.

go to your gmail account, in the settings you can set it to be accessable through POP, do that. Dont forget to set it to leave a copy on the server
On your PDA you need to configure Outlook to accept the gmail accout.
go Start > Programs > Messaging
at bottom of screen choose Accounts
click New
enter email address click next
enter Your Name, User name, Password ( I leave the save password box ticked as I am idle ) click next
choose account type POP3
choose Name POP3 (unless you have option to choose another name you like better) click next
in server information
set Incoming as pop.gmail.com
set Outgoing as smtp.gmail.com
click the options button, page 2 of 3 check Outgoing requires server auth , check box Require SSL
click next
box now shows all Accounts as New, Text Message, POP3
click the OK top right of screen
thats it, done.

Wizzer said:
In gmail's POP service you can choose to either delete or archive email d/l by your device. You could read ur email from your pda then the email you just read would be archived into another folder
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...and hence not downloaded to the desktop if I understand correctly.
justintime07 said:
On your PDA change the imap server settings...
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Gmail does not support IMAP unfortunately. Also, I do not want to go by the number of days or number of messages because those things are not known in advance. I only want to pop email to my computer, and read whatever is not popped to the computer from the mobile device.
tbc_borg, the instructions are helpful if I only wanted to read email from the road. But after email is downloaded to the device, Gmail does not pop it to the desktop, which is not good for me.
I think I found how to do this.
I got another gmail address, set up forwarding of everything from the main email to the second one (with the original left in the main Inbox). I pop everything from the main email to the desktop and from the second email address to the Wizard. I will be receiving duplicate emails to both desktop and the mobile device, but that is better than having only half of emails on the desktop. Any better ideas? I searched extensively, found nothing smarter (well, again, other than finding an email provider that supports both pop and imap protocols).

I had the same problem. What I did was open a second relay a/c, eg [email protected]. I then added a forward on all mails from my normal gmail account to the relay account. On my phone I have my incoming mail server set to the relay account but my outgoing server set to my normal account. This means that all your mails will be forwarded to the relay account and when you want to reply to any of them on the phone it will send them from your normal account!
Bit of a roundabout way of doing things but works fine!

WOW, good hint with the different outgoing server, decmac! It works just as expected!
But I noticed something else that is wrong. I send a test email to my main email address, it gets forwarded to the relay email address. Send/receive from computer, receive the email fine. Send/receive from Wizard, receive it fine as well. So far so good. However, when I send/receive from the Wizard again, the email message that has just been downloaded gets DELETED and is nowhere to be found on the device (not even in "Deleted Items" folder.) I wonder what I have missed in the settings somewhere.

Yeah, that's a problem. It seems to only keep a current copy of your Gmail inbox on the phone so when you do send/receive it overwrites everything. What I have done to get around this is select "Get Message headers only" and select "Include x Kb of message body" Make x big enough to get all of your messages. It then keeps my messages in my inbox until I either delete it or select "Get entire message and any attachments" in the email message.
Not sure if this would work but maybe move messages into a local folder on the phone. Haven't tried this but in theory it should work! The above works perfect for me!

Perfect! It works!
Vielen Dank!

Kein Problem

new gmail push service...

Has anyone tried it yet?
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
It supposed to bring the 'push gmail' feature.

Yes I'm using it since yesterday and it's working great.

ditto here, working quite nicely. Although is there a way to sync with two exchange servers at the same time? (that I don't have to pay for an extra service for). I would really like if I could connect with my works exchange server and my personal gmail one at the same time, but without having to go through the hassle of buying a service and paying monthly fees for the push service.
Any ideas?

works great just started to use it a bit of a pain to setup but didnt take too long.

yah...using it...quite good...

I'm having problems with this..
tried setting it up a few times but wouldnt sync. finally only sync'd when i connection to my wifi at home. As soon as i disconnect the wifi, the sync doesnt work anymore. wondering if its a t-mobile issue. cant seem to find any settings for activesync to use 3g instead of wifi. had it setup using imap with no problems what so ever. Anyone else have this issue?

Hi,
i am new about the push mail feature :
What i believed was(need to be confirmed or denied ;-):
With the gmail push, i wouldnt have anymore to
press a send/receive button in order to check my Gmail emails.
Each time i receive a mail on that account, i would be
informed nearly in realtime on my topaz, like with sms.
So i configured my gmail account like in:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
except i put [email protected] instead of @googlemail.com
(else wasnt working for me)
My topaz was connected via activsynch
so a kind of folder synchro occured
With a "Gmail" folder
and (translated from french) subfolders:
inbox/"sendbox"/drafts/"shifting"/sent/deleted/personal/professionnal/received
But then no mails appeared in them, so had to go to
parameters/"email configuration" to set again my gmail account
(strange to have to do it twice)
And so a "Gmail" subfolder(to Gmail folder) appeared
with new sub-subfolders :
drafts/bin/sent messages/spam/"followed"/"all messages"
and then my previous Gmail's emails appeared
Last i went to parameters/communication/Microsoft direct Push
to set it "on"
I tried for a test to sent a mail to my gmail account
but 45mn later still no notification of a new mail in my Gmail box
(ps: in the accounts settings, window where you have["sms/mms"; "email outlook";"Gmail"; "new account" with tabs "accounts"/message/adresse/storage]), my gmail account is set to 15mn in "send/receive planification")
If i synchronize via programs/ activesync from 3g: no newmail
If i synchronize via programs/ activesync from usb connection my pc:
i got the new mail
The only interest in the push feature i saw was to save battery (topaz doesnt have to send/receive each 15mn automatically)
and be informed quickly when you have a new mail.
sorry for my ignorance, and thanks in advance for any help
regards

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No attachments
I've noticed that I can't receive any attachments with my mail. This is even after I have changed the email settings to receive all attachments in activesync and email account options.

Retain POP3 email

I collect my email from a POP3 server which works fine to a point.
However unlike the PC version of Outlook which collects the mail and retains it until it is deleted from the Inbox my PDA version is behaving as though it were connected to an IMAP server and removes the mail from the Inbox as soon as it is removed from the POP3 server.
I don't recall this happening when I first got the phone but can't be sure. Can anyone else confirm what happens with their POP3 mail ?
Ideally, I would like the messages I have downloaded to stay on the phone until I delete them manually which is what I thought used to happen.
Thanks

You can indeed set an option to do this. Can't remember exactly where but it's in the account settings somewhere. I'm using imap now so can check.

Under the tool/options tab, tick the box that says "Leave a copy of message on server"... I had the same problem until I discovered this. Hope that helps.

SilverSnow said:
Under the tool/options tab, tick the box that says "Leave a copy of message on server"... I had the same problem until I discovered this. Hope that helps.
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Many thanks for the replies.
The problem is actually the other way round. I can delete a message on the phone without it removing the message from the POP3 Server. But if I delete the message from the POP3 server it is removed from the phone as soon as I do a "Send and Receive". In other words the POP3 server seems to be behaving as though it were an IMAP server.
Can anyone confirm whether this happens with their POP3 server or is just mine? As I said I don't think it used to do that.
Thanks in advance.

On my phone I can't find the "leave a copy of message on server" tick box. And as soon as I download the message, read it, and press send/receive once more, the message is deleted both from the phone and from the server!! This renders the phone utterly useless for emails, since I want to download all messages to my PC whenever I get home. I don't need the messages I delete on the phone to remain on the server, but once I get home and receive the messages in Outlook, they disappear on the server and thus when I send/receive on the phone they're all gone from the phone inbox which is fine.
This worked fine on my original stock rom on the TouchHD, but since I flashed to a 6.5.5 ROM it's all messed up. I've tried 3 different 6.5.5 ROMs.
Any idea how to fix this?
Regards,
Tummen

Gmail emails not deleting?

Hi everyone,
I have searched the forum for similar problems but can't find anything. I have my email set to check email every 15 minutes. Even after I delete the emails from my phone, when gmail is checked 15 minutes later, the emails return once again as "new". On the computer version of gmail, the emails are still unread in the inbox.
How can I set the "delete" on the email tab to actually get rid of the email? (preferable send the email to the archive function of gmail)
Thanks in advance.

anyone?????

I have the save problem

Use activesync (with push) instead of POP/imap, works perfectly.

Mine did the same thing until I changed my mail settings to say "delete from server" and also "immediately" if you don't change your delete settings to immediate then it wont actually erase the mail until the next time it connects and downloads it all over again.

GMAIL not deleting - Windows Mobile 6.5
I'm running WinMo 6.5 Cell ROM on a Touch Pro 2 from HTC.
I have exactly the same problem. I delete GMAIL messages from the Inbox on my handset. Next time the phone does a Send/Receive it brings down all the new mail again from the GMAIL server. Basically the handset is not marking mail as being deleted, nor is it marking the mail as read on the server.
I'm using GMAIL in MAPI/SMTP mode on the handset as this is what is accepted by default when setting up the GMAIL account on the device.
I've no experience of using ActiveSync/PUSH for mail. How do you set it up?

GNMurray said:
I've no experience of using ActiveSync/PUSH for mail. How do you set it up?
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I use activesync to download all my messages from google, It also pulled my calendar and contacts to the handset too, I found the instructions by going to: wwwDOTgoogleDOTcom/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299 (wont let me post outside links, so Dot = .) Also on section 11 before syncing everything, I synced each item individually first then switched them all on as I was getting errors.

ActiveSync and PUSH MAIL for Google Mail is the best alternative for being able to hardly experience inbox and retrieval errors.

to delete emails go into your inbox and when you delete, use the left softkey (the bin icon) to delete and not the sense menu.

Gmail not syncing
I had the exact same issue. I searched forever until I found what worked for me. It appears to be an issue is you restore using nandroid. Here is the link on how to do it.
www(.)google(.)com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=113869
remove the () () of course.

HTC Sence Email

OK so when i delete the email from the sence screen it always comes back is there a setting for this or do i have to go in to the inbox every time that i want to get rid of things

Same problem here. 2.13 rom, cht 1.8, bsb tweaks.

You would get faster and faster answers if you were to say which email service you are using, i.e. Exchange, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.

p_synthesis said:
You would get faster and faster answers if you were to say which email service you are using, i.e. Exchange, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.
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All of the above. Gmail and Yahoo especially (my most used accounts).

yes I use gmail but it hasnt really mattered what email i tried it does it on all of them

With Gmail, on the Email Setup/Advanced settings (not the Manila/Sense screens), on the selection "When deleting messages", select "Delete them off the server".

thank you for the assistance it also showed me where to set the download size so i dont have to do the anooying download entire message ?? no thats why i am checking the mail damn it