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XDA II Photo!

Well...finally, here it is. Note the lack of antenna and digital camera on the back ....mmmm...yummy :wink:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/1028.html[/img]

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I was going to attach an image but backed out so heres the proper address:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/1028.html

Looks to me more like fake
btw... new design (c) Sony Ericsson AB? looks like T610

Same Photo, but CLEAR
XDA II Photo
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Still looks like fake... I think it will look more like Samsung, flat, sharp, SMALL...

Unfortunately, having had the xda for a few months I've come to this conclusion.... you cant have small with this kind of device!
Normal hand held use
I got cramp in my hand using the Sony Erricsson for 20 minutes. This was mainly due to its smaller size, otherwise its a good device. Again I wouldnt want to write a story on it for 2 hours like I did waiting in a car-park the other day on the xda
GPS Navigation
Consequently the xda screen-size is also perfect for GPS use in the car, again, with a smaller screen I wouldnt like using it in that application either.
The only possible way it could be improved size wise is with two screens, in a fold out flip-phone configuration, with the same overall screen size as now, but it would be a pain for GPS.
Basically, If you want a tiny phone, this isnt for you. If you want a device that is highly versatile, ergonomic which just happens to also be a phone, (e.g. as a secondary function) a pocket pc xda / xda2 is excellent.

Groan,.... when are mobile manufacturers going to realise that the xda's user demographic already own decent digital cameras.
The effect of this will be you never use it, unless you're out minus digital camera and see a ufo.
lets face it a ufo would have to be pretty close at 640x480 to make it worth taking a picture of!
Wouldnt it be better to not bother with a built in camera until streaming video calls become affordable/technically available.

It doesn't like a phone anymore......
I'm afraid the signal will not be as good as the old XDA..

xda 2
hi
isnt it a shame they havent fitted a decent camera. especially with the 65000 colours. and why havent the put blue tooth as standard.
regards kevin b

Bluetooth is standard.
WiFi optional via the SDIO slot

says it aint says is optional via sdio slot thats stupid thats theres no bluetoothe

Wait till you have a play with it......very very good!

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kevin.beecher said:
hi
isnt it a shame they havent fitted a decent camera. especially with the 65000 colours. and why havent the put blue tooth as standard.
regards kevin b
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Bluetooth is standard and the Camera is very good

hi
how do you know its good any sample pics.
regards kevin :lol:

To an earlier poster:
These photos are certainly not fakes. In fact I'm trialling an O2 Xda II right now
A cracking wireless pocket pc with a useful still/video camera.

better picture...
There's a good picture and an official T-Mobile announcement here:
http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/3952.html
..lance

Here is the O2 Announcement for everyone
http://www.sourceo2.com/News/Press_+releases/01.07.2003-3.htm
Tells a lot more than the T-Mobile site and has realistic dates as well!! :lol:

kevin b said:
hi
how do you know its good any sample pics.
regards kevin :lol:
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Because I have played with it.........

derekcfoley said:
Groan,.... when are mobile manufacturers going to realise that the xda's user demographic already own decent digital cameras.
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The camera's a reason for me NOT TO BUY an XDAII: In the industry I'm in, camera phones are banned for reasons of espionage. Manufacturers should keep in mind that this applies to many other businesses as well. The time will come when we have to go back to old fashioned wired phones on our desks because no wireless device will be available without a camera.
... it would really hurt to buy a new device and immediately treat the camera with a nail and hammer!
Martin

That's really stupid. If you can't be trusted to begin with, you could very well sneak in a mini digital camera anyway. Idiots.

8125 camera

is it me, or does my razr v3 take better pics then the the 1.3mp 8125 camera?
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8125:
would a different camera software improve it?
thanks

Yep the wizards camera is'nt up to much
- there are some camera tweaks here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45123
and someone on the forum is looking to develop some camera software. The camera software that you can use with the magician certainly helps that device. It's a shame the prophet's 2mp camera and the upcoming hermes is much better so it gives us something to look forward too.

meschle said:
Yep the wizards camera is'nt up to much
- there are some camera tweaks here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45123
and someone on the forum is looking to develop some camera software. The camera software that you can use with the magician certainly helps that device. It's a shame the prophet's 2mp camera and the upcoming hermes is much better so it gives us something to look forward too.
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what do you mean but 'gives us something to look forward too'. we have to buy a new device to get image quality of a standard cellphone. HTC should be ashamed of themselves the razr a $100 phone has a better camera than out 350-450$ device. I had the jasjar a $850 HTC pda and the camera was crap on that too.

As annoying as it is... if you bought the a cell phone (of any calibre) with "must have good camera" as one prerequisites, then a quick check at a store with a demo model would have easily shown that the HTC Wizard's Camera (and pretty much all of HTC's models cameras) are pisspoor.
And yes, they certainly could and -should- get better cameras. The one in the Hermes may be better, but it's still a far cry from a decent camera... this just boils down to HTC either manufacturing these themselves (don't think so), or getting cheap modules. They really should get a contract with a company who knows their stuff when it comes to small form factor camera modules... if that means they have to charge $50 / device more.. so be it.

With my Cingular 8125, which I've had a week, I could get better pictures with a Quaker Oatmeal box with a pin-hole in it, a piece of white paper and a pencil. In daylight, I have a total 'whiteout'. I'm not adequately technically minded so am reluctant to know which fixes to use, and how to apply them/it. So far, I haven't seen problems like mine here. Only fixes for difficulties in low-light . I've already tried tweaking the processes available through icons in the camera screen, but haven't been able to find settings for things like 'contrast', 'gamma', and 'white-saturation' etc.

egavac said:
With my Cingular 8125, which I've had a week, I could get better pictures with a Quaker Oatmeal box with a pin-hole in it, a piece of white paper and a pencil. In daylight, I have a total 'whiteout'. I'm not adequately technically minded so am reluctant to know which fixes to use, and how to apply them/it. So far, I haven't seen problems like mine here. Only fixes for difficulties in low-light . I've already tried tweaking the processes available through icons in the camera screen, but haven't been able to find settings for things like 'contrast', 'gamma', and 'white-saturation' etc.
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Hi - in camera goto - settings icon\tools\adjust and you can adjust contrast etc.. there.

Thanks!
If I set the 'brightness' left, about 3/4 from middle, the outdoor pics .......I can even see clouds! I completely missed the 'tools' menu in the camera-settings' click-through in the view screen. If a fix doesn't rectify this problem, changing settings for different light conditions could be a chore. I imagine increasing the brightness setting for indoor/evening would achieve opposite results, but I'm recharging my unit now.

Can someone explain this? Fake/ Knock off G1?

Hi everyone, I am new to the t mobile community and I was looking on good ol ebay for a G1 without a contract. At that point my search threw back this in the query. I was quick to call b.s and all that so ofcourse i didn't buy it, but I just want to ask you all what in the hell is this. Has anyone out there bought it or had any experience with this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=230319434420
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170293667058

Just some cheap "iClone" phones from China. Check your local craigslist- people cant seem to get rid of them fast enough once they get duped into buying them

Alright, In the first link the bid has ended so i cannot help you there. NOW In the second, It's a piece of hardware that may be fake, For Example, My cousin bought a phone like that about 2 months back from ofcourse good ol' Ebay, And what was it, A Japanese phone that looked just like the Iphone, It streamed TV had an antenna for when we made the switch on cable and antennas would be dead. It had like an 8 megapixel camera, Beautiful sweet deal for a smackin' $200 bucks. SO he went ahead and bought it. When it arrived it was the phone, or more exact the model, Which weight no more than a stack of papers, It didnt turn on, NOTHING. He decided to use a flathead screw driver to open it up, and what he found was that the phone had nothing inside, Literally, Nothing but sand, To make the phone weigh. So from me to you. Don't buy it. Skip it. Go to T-mobile and get the G1. lol But that was just 1 experience never know.

damn what a shame. Hopefully the people who are winning these ebay auctions don't get a box of sand shipped to them as well. I just did some reseach on meizu, they seem to be the company that is producing this stuff. Maybe its good enough for china, but I sure as hell am not taking a chance with it.

Those phones are real (not sure about the eBay one, but Deal Extreme and others sell the iClones) but they are very low quality. They also sell a ton of Nokia clones.
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Those phone don't even look like the G1. DA.

Lol... that second one has got SIX speakers!! Must be goood... hehe

Haha
I bought one of these a couple mounths ago they are useless without the stylus and no where near as good as any phone made recently but if all you got is 150 and u need it unlocked then this pos is for you lol...
Edit: this thing does internet movies music and my favorite was the web cam mine had it does a few things but it doesn't do any all that good

These phones do have uses. A lot of these Chinese knock-offs are bought by people needing unlocked phones and multi-SIM capability. In Europe, for example, there are many more carriers over much shorter distances than in the US. Also, the practice (law?) there is caller-pays-all. Incoming calls don't cost anything. Outgoing calls cost your rate plus the rate of the person you're calling, making having multiple SIM cards for different countries more economical. Many of these phones have gimmick features like TV reception, but all come with clunky, proprietary operating systems. Finding good, useful applications will be a constant source of frustration for someone looking for a way to complement his 10mm CZ "diamond" stud in his ear.

Farewell, my beloved G1.

Well, I just got off the phone with T-Mobile, and they are sending me a replacement G1. Why? My G1 had a wobbly screen. I question whether this is really worth the hours of work I spent in rooting and customizing it and even adding on a ShieldSkin too. But, I know this sounds immensely stupid, but I feel pretty bad about it. Its as if I have bonded or something with my current G1. (and it isn't helping that I am listening to Halo by Beyonce on the radio while I am writing this). I have the choice however once the new phone comes, to choose not to keep that one, but the wobbly screen... is starting to annoy me even though it isn't that big of an issue.

must be the biggest sap on the earth. I went ahead and canceled the order a few minutes ago because I just felt too bad about it.

I hear ya...
My G1 has two dead pixels on the screen that I noticed the second day I had it. I thought about getting a replacement, but I just couldn't bring myself to part with it. I still have it, I just try not to look at the screen in that area when I watch movies or that part of the screen is black. I am actually not sure it would be such a big deal if it was easier to restore. My treo was awesome. Hard Reset, replace it? just hook it up, choose your user name and it was just like your last sync, but I hard reset my G1 once, and won't ever do it again. I had used my backup, thought that it would back up the apps (ie, information and applications) only to find out that it only backed up the app itself, I had to redo all the information in everything.

Well... all my Apps are on my SD card, and I am very familiar with rooting and could probably do it in under 30 minutes if I were to get a refurb phone from T-Mobile... I canceled the order only because, like you, I just couldn't let it go. But, I wonder if that is the right choice, because after looking through the service manual (oops!) I realized that the problem with my G1 really cannot be fixed by me... so I really don't know what I should do.

One thing you hadn't considered is that the screen on your replacement might be wobblier. It's unfortunate that htc went with this swivel-slide design as it joins the two halves very unsecurely. I fear that the problem is a design-level issue, so whether the replacement is better or worse is luck of the draw.

SolemnWishing said:
Well... all my Apps are on my SD card, and I am very familiar with rooting and could probably do it in under 30 minutes if I were to get a refurb phone from T-Mobile... I canceled the order only because, like you, I just couldn't let it go. But, I wonder if that is the right choice, because after looking through the service manual (oops!) I realized that the problem with my G1 really cannot be fixed by me... so I really don't know what I should do.
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well i replaced my black g1 once because of that, but ive noticed, even when you get a new one, over the course of time (a few months) that damn screen will loosen up on you, its done it on both black g1's ive had, and both white g1's ive had

I was considering doing the same...ive only had my G1 for about 2 months now but from what the tmobile rep said they all do that...he showed me his and his does it worst than mine. seeing he could probably get his replaced faster than me but he still dealt with it just says its a minor design flaw..but im still 100% in love with my g1.

My phone started that loose jiggle thing..like when its closed it can separate from the body of the phone like 1/8th of an inch and it droops down lower than it used to as well. I've had mine since about October I think and it just started becoming loose in the last 3 weeks

Yes this is a problem with all G1s due to the swivel design.
An easy temp fix is to stick something (like leftover screen protector material or creatively folded one-sided tape) underneath the screen on the keyboard portion of the phone on the top right corner (if you're holding it upright).

Well, for now I've actually found a cure. What I've done is actually cut out paper in the shape of the arch where the screw is in, I put the paper arches that are slightly bigger than the arch itself in, making sure that it goes under the screw and it stays in. I did one piece of construction paper, and then another piece of construction paper with a layer of tape on it to help it slide better. Now my screen opens and closes tight! Here are some pictures:
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It actually looks pretty good, I really like it. Maybe ill post another guide on how to do it haha

Another suddly broken back glass

It was fine before putting it on the charger. I know because i was looking at the back and front before. When i took it from the charger suddenly i see a vertical crack from the top to the right center. No force No drop No back pocket nothing like that! Bring it back for repair and see how Sony treats his new Sony Smartphone User. Hope i do no regret abandoning Samsung....:crying::crying::crying:
(S3 not for sale at the moment)
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bullseye said:
It was fine before putting it on the charger. I know because i was looking at the back and front before. When i took it from the charger suddenly i see a vertical crack from the top to the right center. No force No drop No back pocket nothing like that! Bring it back for repair and see how Sony treats his new Sony Smartphone User. Hope i do no regret abandoning Samsung....:crying::crying::crying:
(S3 not for sale at the moment)
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What's this?

haha sharp eye. Looks like a hit.

bullseye said:
It was fine before putting it on the charger. I know because i was looking at the back and front before. When i took it from the charger suddenly i see a vertical crack from the top to the right center. No force No drop No back pocket nothing like that! Bring it back for repair and see how Sony treats his new Sony Smartphone User. Hope i do no regret abandoning Samsung....:crying::crying::crying:
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That's unfortunate and all, but why would you even create a new topic? Aren't there enough topics regarding this subject?

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Seems a hit or a drop..
What if all these guys who say that their glass cracked by itself but they have actually dropped it?
This guy said he didn't drop it but their is a hit!
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Here is another photo without any dust particles.

What is the week, your phone was made ?

Week 37

Well, mine too.
Luckilly no cracks so far, but I'm curious if any appear.
On one side, I want to return it, and get a refund, OTOH the phone is everyhing I ever wanted, until a better one comes out.

wayne_sk said:
Well, mine too.
Luckilly no cracks so far, but I'm curious if any appear.
On one side, I want to return it, and get a refund, OTOH the phone is everyhing I ever wanted, until a better one comes out.
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Exactly my dilemma. I've seen enough reports of cracks to be convinced Sony cheaped out or did something wrong with this phone. But mine hasn't cracked yet and I actually like it a lot (other than terrible low light camera). I'm hesitant to reward companies when they skimp on something and then fail to acknowledge the problems they've created though which is why I'm considering a return even though I like it.
If reports start coming in of Sony fixing the cracks for free under warranty, then I'll be satisfied and keep it, I think.
Sent from my D5803

Mine is week 37 too, have it since 2 weeks went on holiday with it - no issues so far.

As already mentioned, there are already some existing threads regarding this issue, so please use them instead of opening up a new thread.
Thanks
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