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XDA2 user interface

i had the pleasure to hold in my hands the new xda2 for a few seconds this week.
I noticed that o2 totally redesigned the today screen of windows mobile 2003. Very nice! larger icons in the center of the screen, not only the start drop down menu. a bit like a palm. anyone seen that version arround here?

oh, and btw:
this is what else i liked:
-great screen, much more vibrant and sharp
-seems to be a bit lighter
-and of course no antena
- pictures from the camera look decent
- SD/IO slot on top seems like a good place instead of the bottom. I wont drop my sd card again this way
downs, if any
it's a bit thicker than the old one..so it wont look any better in your pants' pockets.

To stamp with impatience :lol: :lol: :lol:
More than two months for waiting
:roll:
Any idea about price :?:
:wink:

the nice lady who showed it to me had no idea about the price. :wink:

Can I ask where you say it, was it UK and was it at an exhibition?

Does it use the same bottom connector as the XDA2????

odd all the pictures i've seen of the mda2 and xda2 looked as if they had the SD connector in the buttom

I would like to have XDA II right now
:?: :?:
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Everybody has the same idea?

i saw it at an exibition, thats right. although not UK, it was a trip to Germany
dunno about the buttom connector but i am pretty certain that the SD slot is on top

screenshots?
have anyone any screenshots of this new interface?
I'm really really interest, because I work up and research for more useful Today Screen.
Some of my concept is here:
http://www.geocities.com//myppcpe2003/
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where?
where is the new interface?
I just read:
http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cacheZlfNV4Z2e8J:msmobiles.com/article.php/54.html+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
and there is no such an interface style.

Re: where?
JGUI said:
where is the new interface?
I just read:
http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cacheZlfNV4Z2e8J:msmobiles.com/article.php/54.html+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
and there is no such an interface style.
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That article is about an MDA-II from T-mobile, while in the originator of this thread talked about an XDA-II from O2.
Maybe it's an extra from O2 ?
GrTz !

Maybe it's an extra from O2 ?
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When did we ever get something extra from O2... ? They will not even release WM2003 for XDA in Asia... Not that I want their version on my XDA. XDA Developers & Jeff has seem to it that we don't need them... Frankly, much as I'm tempted for this new phone I think I will try and resist just to protest O2's decision on WM2003 upgrade for XDA.

k_kirk said:
Maybe it's an extra from O2 ?
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When did we ever get something extra from O2... ? They will not even release WM2003 for XDA in Asia... Not that I want their version on my XDA. XDA Developers & Jeff has seem to it that we don't need them... Frankly, much as I'm tempted for this new phone I think I will try and resist just to protest O2's decision on WM2003 upgrade for XDA.
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Wow! Hold your horses! I was just trying to suggest that the GUI might have some O2 customization and the mentioned URL shows pictures of the T-Mobile model, not the O2 model.
I hold nothing against any particular provider: they all have found their own unique and distinctive way to screw us

X-Ray, apologies if I seemed to flame you! That priviledge goes to O2... I was just harping on... Cheers

k_kirk said:
X-Ray, apologies if I seemed to flame you! That priviledge goes to O2... I was just harping on... Cheers
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Ok, no problem: we have a common target then

I do know a few things here for sure:
- the SDIO slot is at the top, NOT the bottom!
- there will be some kind of O2 menu, maybe the same as their new mobiles?
- definitely has bluetooth built in
- supports WLAN via SDIO
- same connector in bottom, but different charger, so not all cables and accessories will work 100% between models i think
Looks very, very good - I have also had a brief play with one.
XL

How do I replace my lost JasJar?

Well, I'm officially an idiot....I left my JJ on the Eurostar on Sunday. And some lucky train sanitation agent has obviously seen it as a good opportunity to make a couple of quid (despite the offer of a reward )
Fortunately, apart from a couple of photos of Paris everything was backed up. I've managed to remote wipe it (Thanks to AKU2), and IIWPO is installed in the ROM (Thanks to XDA-Dev!!) so I'm waiting to see if my wife gets a text message that I can follow up on....
For now though, I've been relegated to using my trusty Tornado. (Although I keep finding myself prodding at the screen with a pencil in a vain attempt to recreate the happy days of PPC ownership....)
Anyway, my question is this:
I found the Universal to be pretty bulky. Not too bad, but I'd prefer something a bit smaller. My choices as I see them are:
1) Get a replacement Universal now and put up with the size.
2) Get a Fujitsu Siemens T830 in July and put up with a puny screen.
3) The HTC Hermes - pretty much exactly what I'm after, but God only knows how long I'll have to wait...and I'm impatient!
Any other sensible suggestions would be very welcome. Are there any other Universal replacements on the horizon that I may have missed?
Thanks!

I think I'm jumping ship to the Mio A701 tomorrow I want more toys (GPS), and can live without keyboard.
Hermes still seems an incremental improvement to me. Nice idea, but not quite what I'm after. And I think it looks a bit poo...
But then, I've still got my Universal, Magician and P900
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I did consider the Mio. it looks nice and more toys are always good, but I use a lot of 'connected' functions so the lack of WiFi or 3G kills it for me. Looking at that device that led me to finding the T830...
If only the screen of the T830 wasn't so rubbish, I think this would be a no-brainer, but as it is I may stick with a Universal variant (and it's bulk) until something better comes along.
And the Hermes is pretty ugly, It's only a consideration over the T830 because (again) of the better screen. I think I've just been spoiled by the VGA lovliness of my dear departed JasJar, so I don't want to downgrade too far...

Fuji looks very nice. But screen is 240x240? Sigh...
I don't use my Universal much, but I really want a proper handheld with VGA. I'd go blind (it's hard enough to see on the Universal), but 240x240 is bad
Wifi isn't so bad for me, I've got a wifi card. 3G - useful, but I don't use it in the UK really. Does the Benq have a qvga screen? It's old skool, but if screen space is a priority...
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Well if i were you i would stuck with the universal, because there isn't another similar phone/pocket pc with the same specs and a VGA screen ! I bought one because it was the only one with the darn VGA screen !!
It only the Atom had a VGA screen... ohh well !!!

You want VGA Screen?
Google this:
Sharp W-Zero3

raymondu999 said:
You want VGA Screen?
Google this:
Sharp W-Zero3
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He probably also wants something he can actually buy. :roll:

I'll be able to live without a VGA screen. Just not sure I want to go as lo-fi as 240x240. Mainly because of software compatibility problems...WM5 has precious little decent software already, without complicating matters further.
If the T830 was QVGA it'd be perfect (well...close enough to perfect!). I think I need to do some research on the problems with square screens, then I'll decide on whether to wait for the T830, or just get another Uni.
Thanks though, I do at least know that I haven't forgotten anything. You wait, when they start releasing Ultraportable PC's with built in 3G and voice capabilities, I'm really going to struggle...!

What about:
Advance TC M.A.G.I.C.?
How about a list of what you REALLY want to be there (at least)

All I want is a PPC with:
-AKU2 (for Push-Mail and A2DP)
-3G and WiFi (for decent connection speeds)
The most important NON-essential features are:
-Keyboard
-QVGA screen (or better)
-GPS
Obviously, I'd appreciate anything over and above that, so the more bolt-ons the better. And yes, something that I have a chance of buying in the UK within the next couple of months would be good.
I realise that limits me to roughly one device that's currently available, but the T830 is on it's way, the Hermes is possibly on it's way, Shame the Trinity will take about a million years to surface (if ever).

Can someone explain this? Fake/ Knock off G1?

Hi everyone, I am new to the t mobile community and I was looking on good ol ebay for a G1 without a contract. At that point my search threw back this in the query. I was quick to call b.s and all that so ofcourse i didn't buy it, but I just want to ask you all what in the hell is this. Has anyone out there bought it or had any experience with this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=230319434420
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170293667058

Just some cheap "iClone" phones from China. Check your local craigslist- people cant seem to get rid of them fast enough once they get duped into buying them

Alright, In the first link the bid has ended so i cannot help you there. NOW In the second, It's a piece of hardware that may be fake, For Example, My cousin bought a phone like that about 2 months back from ofcourse good ol' Ebay, And what was it, A Japanese phone that looked just like the Iphone, It streamed TV had an antenna for when we made the switch on cable and antennas would be dead. It had like an 8 megapixel camera, Beautiful sweet deal for a smackin' $200 bucks. SO he went ahead and bought it. When it arrived it was the phone, or more exact the model, Which weight no more than a stack of papers, It didnt turn on, NOTHING. He decided to use a flathead screw driver to open it up, and what he found was that the phone had nothing inside, Literally, Nothing but sand, To make the phone weigh. So from me to you. Don't buy it. Skip it. Go to T-mobile and get the G1. lol But that was just 1 experience never know.

damn what a shame. Hopefully the people who are winning these ebay auctions don't get a box of sand shipped to them as well. I just did some reseach on meizu, they seem to be the company that is producing this stuff. Maybe its good enough for china, but I sure as hell am not taking a chance with it.

Those phones are real (not sure about the eBay one, but Deal Extreme and others sell the iClones) but they are very low quality. They also sell a ton of Nokia clones.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=230319434420
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Those phone don't even look like the G1. DA.

Lol... that second one has got SIX speakers!! Must be goood... hehe

Haha
I bought one of these a couple mounths ago they are useless without the stylus and no where near as good as any phone made recently but if all you got is 150 and u need it unlocked then this pos is for you lol...
Edit: this thing does internet movies music and my favorite was the web cam mine had it does a few things but it doesn't do any all that good

These phones do have uses. A lot of these Chinese knock-offs are bought by people needing unlocked phones and multi-SIM capability. In Europe, for example, there are many more carriers over much shorter distances than in the US. Also, the practice (law?) there is caller-pays-all. Incoming calls don't cost anything. Outgoing calls cost your rate plus the rate of the person you're calling, making having multiple SIM cards for different countries more economical. Many of these phones have gimmick features like TV reception, but all come with clunky, proprietary operating systems. Finding good, useful applications will be a constant source of frustration for someone looking for a way to complement his 10mm CZ "diamond" stud in his ear.

SNAP Network Differences? Any?

Hey guys... Are there any significant differences between the different GSM versions of the SNAP? I know USA uses 1900MHz 3G but UK uses 2100MHz. Do all the versions have the capability to use ANY band?
I don't want to be stuck with a 2100MHz phone in USA. Are S521 and S522 virtually the same?
Anyone know?

A far as I know, I've never seen a phone that can support both. You need to wait for the US version to use the US 3g.

phuKKah said:
A far as I know, I've never seen a phone that can support both. You need to wait for the US version to use the US 3g.
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Yea, i ended up getting my Dash 3G this past weekend. I got it 2 days after the ROM date on it. Haha! Now to start cooking...

Two questions about the new Dash:
1. Is the battery removable? I have the extended battery on my Dash but it looks like the back is one piece on the Snap, so I doubt you can use it, but I'd still like to get a larger battery for a Snap.
2. Can you use the T-Zones hack?
Thanks,
Marc
ookba said:
Yea, i ended up getting my Dash 3G this past weekend. I got it 2 days after the ROM date on it. Haha! Now to start cooking...
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the back on the snap/dash3g is one whole piece, but the standard battery for it is 1500mAh and it surely is removable ... I know that with my original dash, the extended 1500mAh battery is huge and required a new cover.
I'm still slightly on the fence about the 3G mainly because I'm still adjusting to the offset keyboard vs. the straight line of the original, and the scroll ball is still throwing me off on internet use.
I hope that there is an option to resume Internet Explorer sessions if I exit out, because currently when I exit out of IE, and pull it up again, it starts a full new session which kind of sucks if I'm browsing and need to send a txt or make a note of something.
other than that, I really enjoy the phone thus far, though I've only had mine a few hours.

see i'm actually looking FORWARD to it and I really like the fact that t-mobile is the only carrier who's phone are offset like an actual keyboard(I currently own a g1 which has the offset keyboard). Everyone else's phones are straight line keyboards. That's not a deal breaker but coming from a G1(persona phone) to a Fuze(work phone) I can't really get used to it. I still get thrown off.

so i have the Ozone..which is verizon's version of it and to be honest the off set everyone describes isnt that bad. yea ill admit it, ive missed the space bar a couple times, but like everything else it just takes some getting used too. But heres a pic of what they all look liked lined up against one another :
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lp894 said:
see i'm actually looking FORWARD to it and I really like the fact that t-mobile is the only carrier who's phone are offset like an actual keyboard(I currently own a g1 which has the offset keyboard). Everyone else's phones are straight line keyboards. That's not a deal breaker but coming from a G1(persona phone) to a Fuze(work phone) I can't really get used to it. I still get thrown off.
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I think they're different devices. The Dash3G and HTC branded SNAP are HTC MAPLE and The Sprint and Verizon versions are HTC WILLOW- CDMA only. Means hardware and ROMS will probably be different as well...

ookba said:
I think they're different devices. The Dash3G and HTC branded SNAP are HTC MAPLE and The Sprint and Verizon versions are HTC WILLOW- CDMA only. Means hardware and ROMS will probably be different as well...
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so does that mean that ur not gonna be able to do a rom for the verizon version?
or u will and ur just clarifying?

SoCalSpecialist said:
so does that mean that ur not gonna be able to do a rom for the verizon version?
or u will and ur just clarifying?
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I will need to get my hands on a Verizon and Sprint Version to do some R&D but I should be able to...

Xperia X2 Video Unboxing

it's right here
enjoy!
well...at least try to

gundamboy said:
it's right here
enjoy!
well...at least try to
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this is a good vid, shows all the leads etc that we will get and the unit itself which looks good.
hopefully in the next day or 2 they will upload the guy running through the software so we can see what software they included and how much they have improved it from the announcement model (if they have sorted the lag and changed or improved anything).

yeah, I'd like to see how it runs and how well it goes through the panels.
I'm considering purchasing one, just not right away...
(waiting for a price drop similar to the Xperia X1's)

double posted, my bad.

Engadget article:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/sony-ericsson-xperia-x2-lovingly-unboxed-on-video/
TAKE THAT KILLERSKINCANOE!!!11ONE!!1
lolz .

lol, awesome orelsi!
was wondering when you'd show up

FOCK! i knew it was a bad time to go for some smokes! lolz
good find my friend. although i'm pretty sure i watched it b4 i left. just forgot to post it... oh the thc in my blood is ****in with my memory.. oh well.. thats y i like it

it's cool, can't wait for some more videos of the UI and a whole breakdown of the unit itself.

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it's cool, can't wait for some more videos of the UI and a whole breakdown of the unit itself.
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Me too!
Great device.....

Just got my X1 few weeks ago and now change of heart already.

the only really big problem right now is the price...
my wallet doesn't hold that much money

u need a George Costanza wallet !!
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lolz

Here is what mine looks like:

damn, I DO need a big one.

gundamboy said:
damn, I DO need a big one.
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That's what she said!
P.S. Sorry, I wasn't able to stop myself .

oh damn how did i miss this! nice! lol

Sigh... after watching the video, somehow just adds to the feeling that it really ain't much of a big improvement over the X1. But well, will still get it. And hopefully, it'll be out before the 1 year warranty of my X1 expires so that I can send it for servicing. Gotta get my keyboard issue resolved, now that I realized it ain't to do with me using a custom ROM.

If you want it to feel like a "big thing" just simply think of it as a standalone phone from the Xperia series, not as a successor to the X1.
After you establish that fact, it's just a new phone in the lineup.

I hope they won't put those pathetic earphones in the final set.
I would like to LAUGH one more time about their decision to use micro usb when all the companies in the undustry have agreed to use mini usb.

Midway through the video, just after he puts in the battery (which looks to be a standard X1 BST-41 ) - he hits a switch on the side. I was originally going to ask if that might be a Hold switch like the ASUS phones have - but I realize now its actually just a battery case lock - oh well.
Can't say I like the reduction of the buttons, makes for less customization, the micro-usb means I need to get mini-micro adapters (90% of all usb non-USB-A devices I've owned since 2002 have had Mini-USB plugs). Flat screen is nice though, being a little bigger can't hurt. Nice camera, but lower frame-rate on VGA recording like the X1a now for all editions? Mostly same specs though and no idea what software it will break... makes me with hold judgment on whether I'd ever buy it though. That and the fact I have a brand new X1 to play with in my hand right now .
Peter
P.S. Just saw your reply above me orelsi, I wish Mini-USB were the standard but I keep reading that it's now micro-usb - I'd be happy if you can prove me wrong on this Ref: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2341261,00.asp