i had the pleasure to hold in my hands the new xda2 for a few seconds this week.
I noticed that o2 totally redesigned the today screen of windows mobile 2003. Very nice! larger icons in the center of the screen, not only the start drop down menu. a bit like a palm. anyone seen that version arround here?
oh, and btw:
this is what else i liked:
-great screen, much more vibrant and sharp
-seems to be a bit lighter
-and of course no antena
- pictures from the camera look decent
- SD/IO slot on top seems like a good place instead of the bottom. I wont drop my sd card again this way
downs, if any
it's a bit thicker than the old one..so it wont look any better in your pants' pockets.
To stamp with impatience :lol: :lol: :lol:
More than two months for waiting
:roll:
Any idea about price :?:
:wink:
the nice lady who showed it to me had no idea about the price. :wink:
Can I ask where you say it, was it UK and was it at an exhibition?
Does it use the same bottom connector as the XDA2????
odd all the pictures i've seen of the mda2 and xda2 looked as if they had the SD connector in the buttom
I would like to have XDA II right now
:?: :?:
:wink:
Everybody has the same idea?
i saw it at an exibition, thats right. although not UK, it was a trip to Germany
dunno about the buttom connector but i am pretty certain that the SD slot is on top
screenshots?
have anyone any screenshots of this new interface?
I'm really really interest, because I work up and research for more useful Today Screen.
Some of my concept is here:
http://www.geocities.com//myppcpe2003/
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where?
where is the new interface?
I just read:
http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cacheZlfNV4Z2e8J:msmobiles.com/article.php/54.html+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
and there is no such an interface style.
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JGUI said:
where is the new interface?
I just read:
http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cacheZlfNV4Z2e8J:msmobiles.com/article.php/54.html+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
and there is no such an interface style.
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That article is about an MDA-II from T-mobile, while in the originator of this thread talked about an XDA-II from O2.
Maybe it's an extra from O2 ?
GrTz !
Maybe it's an extra from O2 ?
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When did we ever get something extra from O2... ? They will not even release WM2003 for XDA in Asia... Not that I want their version on my XDA. XDA Developers & Jeff has seem to it that we don't need them... Frankly, much as I'm tempted for this new phone I think I will try and resist just to protest O2's decision on WM2003 upgrade for XDA.
k_kirk said:
Maybe it's an extra from O2 ?
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When did we ever get something extra from O2... ? They will not even release WM2003 for XDA in Asia... Not that I want their version on my XDA. XDA Developers & Jeff has seem to it that we don't need them... Frankly, much as I'm tempted for this new phone I think I will try and resist just to protest O2's decision on WM2003 upgrade for XDA.
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Wow! Hold your horses! I was just trying to suggest that the GUI might have some O2 customization and the mentioned URL shows pictures of the T-Mobile model, not the O2 model.
I hold nothing against any particular provider: they all have found their own unique and distinctive way to screw us
X-Ray, apologies if I seemed to flame you! That priviledge goes to O2... I was just harping on... Cheers
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X-Ray, apologies if I seemed to flame you! That priviledge goes to O2... I was just harping on... Cheers
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Ok, no problem: we have a common target then
I do know a few things here for sure:
- the SDIO slot is at the top, NOT the bottom!
- there will be some kind of O2 menu, maybe the same as their new mobiles?
- definitely has bluetooth built in
- supports WLAN via SDIO
- same connector in bottom, but different charger, so not all cables and accessories will work 100% between models i think
Looks very, very good - I have also had a brief play with one.
XL
Related
Well...finally, here it is. Note the lack of antenna and digital camera on the back ....mmmm...yummy :wink:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/1028.html[/img]
Oops...
I was going to attach an image but backed out so heres the proper address:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/1028.html
Looks to me more like fake
btw... new design (c) Sony Ericsson AB? looks like T610
Same Photo, but CLEAR
XDA II Photo
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Still looks like fake... I think it will look more like Samsung, flat, sharp, SMALL...
Unfortunately, having had the xda for a few months I've come to this conclusion.... you cant have small with this kind of device!
Normal hand held use
I got cramp in my hand using the Sony Erricsson for 20 minutes. This was mainly due to its smaller size, otherwise its a good device. Again I wouldnt want to write a story on it for 2 hours like I did waiting in a car-park the other day on the xda
GPS Navigation
Consequently the xda screen-size is also perfect for GPS use in the car, again, with a smaller screen I wouldnt like using it in that application either.
The only possible way it could be improved size wise is with two screens, in a fold out flip-phone configuration, with the same overall screen size as now, but it would be a pain for GPS.
Basically, If you want a tiny phone, this isnt for you. If you want a device that is highly versatile, ergonomic which just happens to also be a phone, (e.g. as a secondary function) a pocket pc xda / xda2 is excellent.
Groan,.... when are mobile manufacturers going to realise that the xda's user demographic already own decent digital cameras.
The effect of this will be you never use it, unless you're out minus digital camera and see a ufo.
lets face it a ufo would have to be pretty close at 640x480 to make it worth taking a picture of!
Wouldnt it be better to not bother with a built in camera until streaming video calls become affordable/technically available.
It doesn't like a phone anymore......
I'm afraid the signal will not be as good as the old XDA..
xda 2
hi
isnt it a shame they havent fitted a decent camera. especially with the 65000 colours. and why havent the put blue tooth as standard.
regards kevin b
Bluetooth is standard.
WiFi optional via the SDIO slot
says it aint says is optional via sdio slot thats stupid thats theres no bluetoothe
Wait till you have a play with it......very very good!
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hi
isnt it a shame they havent fitted a decent camera. especially with the 65000 colours. and why havent the put blue tooth as standard.
regards kevin b
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Bluetooth is standard and the Camera is very good
hi
how do you know its good any sample pics.
regards kevin :lol:
To an earlier poster:
These photos are certainly not fakes. In fact I'm trialling an O2 Xda II right now
A cracking wireless pocket pc with a useful still/video camera.
better picture...
There's a good picture and an official T-Mobile announcement here:
http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/3952.html
..lance
Here is the O2 Announcement for everyone
http://www.sourceo2.com/News/Press_+releases/01.07.2003-3.htm
Tells a lot more than the T-Mobile site and has realistic dates as well!! :lol:
kevin b said:
hi
how do you know its good any sample pics.
regards kevin :lol:
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Because I have played with it.........
derekcfoley said:
Groan,.... when are mobile manufacturers going to realise that the xda's user demographic already own decent digital cameras.
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The camera's a reason for me NOT TO BUY an XDAII: In the industry I'm in, camera phones are banned for reasons of espionage. Manufacturers should keep in mind that this applies to many other businesses as well. The time will come when we have to go back to old fashioned wired phones on our desks because no wireless device will be available without a camera.
... it would really hurt to buy a new device and immediately treat the camera with a nail and hammer!
Martin
That's really stupid. If you can't be trusted to begin with, you could very well sneak in a mini digital camera anyway. Idiots.
Well, I'm officially an idiot....I left my JJ on the Eurostar on Sunday. And some lucky train sanitation agent has obviously seen it as a good opportunity to make a couple of quid (despite the offer of a reward )
Fortunately, apart from a couple of photos of Paris everything was backed up. I've managed to remote wipe it (Thanks to AKU2), and IIWPO is installed in the ROM (Thanks to XDA-Dev!!) so I'm waiting to see if my wife gets a text message that I can follow up on....
For now though, I've been relegated to using my trusty Tornado. (Although I keep finding myself prodding at the screen with a pencil in a vain attempt to recreate the happy days of PPC ownership....)
Anyway, my question is this:
I found the Universal to be pretty bulky. Not too bad, but I'd prefer something a bit smaller. My choices as I see them are:
1) Get a replacement Universal now and put up with the size.
2) Get a Fujitsu Siemens T830 in July and put up with a puny screen.
3) The HTC Hermes - pretty much exactly what I'm after, but God only knows how long I'll have to wait...and I'm impatient!
Any other sensible suggestions would be very welcome. Are there any other Universal replacements on the horizon that I may have missed?
Thanks!
I think I'm jumping ship to the Mio A701 tomorrow I want more toys (GPS), and can live without keyboard.
Hermes still seems an incremental improvement to me. Nice idea, but not quite what I'm after. And I think it looks a bit poo...
But then, I've still got my Universal, Magician and P900
V
I did consider the Mio. it looks nice and more toys are always good, but I use a lot of 'connected' functions so the lack of WiFi or 3G kills it for me. Looking at that device that led me to finding the T830...
If only the screen of the T830 wasn't so rubbish, I think this would be a no-brainer, but as it is I may stick with a Universal variant (and it's bulk) until something better comes along.
And the Hermes is pretty ugly, It's only a consideration over the T830 because (again) of the better screen. I think I've just been spoiled by the VGA lovliness of my dear departed JasJar, so I don't want to downgrade too far...
Fuji looks very nice. But screen is 240x240? Sigh...
I don't use my Universal much, but I really want a proper handheld with VGA. I'd go blind (it's hard enough to see on the Universal), but 240x240 is bad
Wifi isn't so bad for me, I've got a wifi card. 3G - useful, but I don't use it in the UK really. Does the Benq have a qvga screen? It's old skool, but if screen space is a priority...
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Well if i were you i would stuck with the universal, because there isn't another similar phone/pocket pc with the same specs and a VGA screen ! I bought one because it was the only one with the darn VGA screen !!
It only the Atom had a VGA screen... ohh well !!!
You want VGA Screen?
Google this:
Sharp W-Zero3
raymondu999 said:
You want VGA Screen?
Google this:
Sharp W-Zero3
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He probably also wants something he can actually buy. :roll:
I'll be able to live without a VGA screen. Just not sure I want to go as lo-fi as 240x240. Mainly because of software compatibility problems...WM5 has precious little decent software already, without complicating matters further.
If the T830 was QVGA it'd be perfect (well...close enough to perfect!). I think I need to do some research on the problems with square screens, then I'll decide on whether to wait for the T830, or just get another Uni.
Thanks though, I do at least know that I haven't forgotten anything. You wait, when they start releasing Ultraportable PC's with built in 3G and voice capabilities, I'm really going to struggle...!
What about:
Advance TC M.A.G.I.C.?
How about a list of what you REALLY want to be there (at least)
All I want is a PPC with:
-AKU2 (for Push-Mail and A2DP)
-3G and WiFi (for decent connection speeds)
The most important NON-essential features are:
-Keyboard
-QVGA screen (or better)
-GPS
Obviously, I'd appreciate anything over and above that, so the more bolt-ons the better. And yes, something that I have a chance of buying in the UK within the next couple of months would be good.
I realise that limits me to roughly one device that's currently available, but the T830 is on it's way, the Hermes is possibly on it's way, Shame the Trinity will take about a million years to surface (if ever).
Wondering how many are going to pay out for the Kaiser and why.
I gots to have my device fix every year, ...I like the thinner Kaiser......but thats really about it..... Getting GPS above and beyond that is NOT going to open my wallet to the tune of $600.
If the Cingular network miraculously has the souped up hsdpa network good to go next year......maybe. If not I'm looking at the Toshiba device....or maybe the Samsung f700 if I can get my hands on it here.
Thanks!
T
rockky said:
Wondering how many are going to pay out for the Kaiser and why.
I gots to have my device fix every year, ...I like the thinner Kaiser......but thats really about it..... Getting GPS above and beyond that is NOT going to open my wallet to the tune of $600.
If the Cingular network miraculously has the souped up hsdpa network good to go next year......maybe. If not I'm looking at the Toshiba device....or maybe the Samsung f700 if I can get my hands on it here.
Thanks!
T
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I'm prob going to buy one. I already have someone willing to buy my hermes for the price of the Kaiser as long as I take care of it for them. Bosses wife. I want the GPS, the double in the storage, the thinner size, HSUPA, it is going to have 3.6 HSDPA and I really want the tip up screen. There is also the fact the the keyboard slids out the right side. I like that so that the dial is usable when the kb is pulled out.
Well that is my take on it. I wish the memory was going to 128 but that is prob not going to happen. I will be buying one.
Erik
yeah, but really, the hsdpa boost is good to go in other lands I hear....questionable in the US...wasn't aware of the storage boost.......(that we already have here on XDA!).
I want to stay with the Hermes lineage, which 'been good to me'....but startin to look around.
I think the XDA chefs've devalued the next models for sure!
etijburg said:
I like that so that the dial is usable when the kb is pulled out.
Erik
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Agree with everything you said, one question though: does the dial location change in the Kaiser? Because if you slide the keyboard to the left, as in the Hermes, the dial is well accessible. I figure if the dial location stays the same it ain't accessible if you slide the keyboard to the right ... am I missing something?
well, in the hermes it's accessible with your left thumb. as far as i understand, in the keiser it will be accessible with the right hand pointing finger...so it's more usable
I'll get one, but only if it supports the 3G frequencies T-mobile US is going to be on.
simonk12 said:
well, in the hermes it's accessible with your left thumb. as far as i understand, in the keiser it will be accessible with the right hand pointing finger...so it's more usable
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OK that makes sense, especially when sliding the screen upwards to provide enough space around the jog wheel for the left pointing finger ...
http://pdadb.net/imageview.php?file=htc_p4550_2.jpg
etijburg said:
I'm prob going to buy one. I already have someone willing to buy my hermes for the price of the Kaiser as long as I take care of it for them. Bosses wife.
Erik
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Erik,
No no no you are on very dodgy ground here You have to take care of the bosses wife in return for money - just what kind of job is this and what is your job title??
Sounds like a Dangerous Liaison to me
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"I have a little something for you my dear. Oh yes it's beautifully formed, very slick and fits in so nicely. Would you like a little peek?"
"Why Erik you little devil it's perfect for my little box! Have you given it a name?"
"Why yes my dear it's my latest iphone look alike theme!"
"Erik you say the sweetest things, you certainly deserve one of those Kaiser's for being so nice to me"
Mike
i will be buying a Kaiseer... as Austar in AUS are rolling out their HSUPA network in 2008 Q2...
Updated pics
Some updated Kaiser pics here ...
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-smartphones-on-show-high-end-kaiser-mid-range-elf-085128.php
Hi guys , What you recommend , any release date from htc for kaiser yet ? or i buy the hermes again ...please throw your valuable feedback .
I am also awaiting the Kaiser...the date was set at June 2007 from http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733 but about a week ago they changed it to July 2007. at this rate I just might buy an iPhone
Jay_uk said:
Hi guys , What you recommend , any release date from htc for kaiser yet ? or i buy the hermes again ...please throw your valuable feedback .
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Mr Sensible says wait until the Kaiser comes out, Mr More Sensible says wait a good six months after release so initial problems are ironed out. Mr Exceedingly sensible says wait at least a year so the price has dropped considerably. Mr Ultimately Sensible says just give it ten years and there'll be even better ones out by then. How sensible are you??
By the way next time you are giving one of these away:
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Give it to me I'm smiling or maybe I'm not, just gimme it!!
Mike
lol, I should wait for it's launch , can't wait any further lol
I feel your pain
To tide me over I bought a M3100 off ebay so I can 'keep my hand in' so to speak until the kaiser is released
Anyone have any further info on release dates in the UK ?
Personally I don't see enough of a change for me to rush out and get one to replace my M3100. There isn't really a killer feature that I must have... the extra ROM memory is nice but I don't run that low at the moment. I don't need the built in GPS as my SirfStarIII is excellent. Don't need the extra 3meg camera over the 2meg. The screen tilt is nice but never felt the need for it. OK, it's a little bit thinner and slightly lighter but once again not enough to change.
Now if I was looking for a new phone or coming from say a Wizard then I would jump on it first chance.
Anybody got Kaiser release date for t-mobile ,Will it be called Vario III ?
I think it's out in October OEM, dunno about branded colaunches. I'll certainly be hassling T-Mobile in October as that's when my birthday is (and it'll be just over a year from the start of my contract with them).
Can't waiiiitttttttttttttt for the Kaiser Even though it's a little bit biger than the Hermes. Yummy yumyumyumyum.
Pre orders:
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437
Mike
Hi Mike, 900 English pounds...gulp! I could buy three dodgy Hermes from Ebay for that with three even more dodgy WM6 operating systems on them!!!
mikechannon said:
Pre orders:
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=437
Mike
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boz said:
Hi Mike, 900 English pounds...gulp! I could buy three dodgy Hermes from Ebay for that with three even more dodgy WM6 operating systems on them!!!
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Indeed LOL!
Actually, I think they are just sticking price up to catch the idiots with more money than sense and who must be first with the latest gadget. In fact the sites may not even know their pricing levels yet until HTC release info.
Mike
HTC confirm UK release is expected in Nov 07, in time for the xmas purchase rush!
it's right here
enjoy!
well...at least try to
gundamboy said:
it's right here
enjoy!
well...at least try to
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this is a good vid, shows all the leads etc that we will get and the unit itself which looks good.
hopefully in the next day or 2 they will upload the guy running through the software so we can see what software they included and how much they have improved it from the announcement model (if they have sorted the lag and changed or improved anything).
yeah, I'd like to see how it runs and how well it goes through the panels.
I'm considering purchasing one, just not right away...
(waiting for a price drop similar to the Xperia X1's)
double posted, my bad.
Engadget article:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/sony-ericsson-xperia-x2-lovingly-unboxed-on-video/
TAKE THAT KILLERSKINCANOE!!!11ONE!!1
lolz .
lol, awesome orelsi!
was wondering when you'd show up
FOCK! i knew it was a bad time to go for some smokes! lolz
good find my friend. although i'm pretty sure i watched it b4 i left. just forgot to post it... oh the thc in my blood is ****in with my memory.. oh well.. thats y i like it
it's cool, can't wait for some more videos of the UI and a whole breakdown of the unit itself.
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it's cool, can't wait for some more videos of the UI and a whole breakdown of the unit itself.
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Me too!
Great device.....
Just got my X1 few weeks ago and now change of heart already.
the only really big problem right now is the price...
my wallet doesn't hold that much money
u need a George Costanza wallet !!
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lolz
Here is what mine looks like:
damn, I DO need a big one.
gundamboy said:
damn, I DO need a big one.
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That's what she said!
P.S. Sorry, I wasn't able to stop myself .
oh damn how did i miss this! nice! lol
Sigh... after watching the video, somehow just adds to the feeling that it really ain't much of a big improvement over the X1. But well, will still get it. And hopefully, it'll be out before the 1 year warranty of my X1 expires so that I can send it for servicing. Gotta get my keyboard issue resolved, now that I realized it ain't to do with me using a custom ROM.
If you want it to feel like a "big thing" just simply think of it as a standalone phone from the Xperia series, not as a successor to the X1.
After you establish that fact, it's just a new phone in the lineup.
I hope they won't put those pathetic earphones in the final set.
I would like to LAUGH one more time about their decision to use micro usb when all the companies in the undustry have agreed to use mini usb.
Midway through the video, just after he puts in the battery (which looks to be a standard X1 BST-41 ) - he hits a switch on the side. I was originally going to ask if that might be a Hold switch like the ASUS phones have - but I realize now its actually just a battery case lock - oh well.
Can't say I like the reduction of the buttons, makes for less customization, the micro-usb means I need to get mini-micro adapters (90% of all usb non-USB-A devices I've owned since 2002 have had Mini-USB plugs). Flat screen is nice though, being a little bigger can't hurt. Nice camera, but lower frame-rate on VGA recording like the X1a now for all editions? Mostly same specs though and no idea what software it will break... makes me with hold judgment on whether I'd ever buy it though. That and the fact I have a brand new X1 to play with in my hand right now .
Peter
P.S. Just saw your reply above me orelsi, I wish Mini-USB were the standard but I keep reading that it's now micro-usb - I'd be happy if you can prove me wrong on this Ref: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2341261,00.asp