Hi,
I think i broke/cracked my screen but i am not sure.. I had this blury screen once before when i accidently drop the phone last week. But after that it was fine, and this morning when i woke up, it was working well and all of a sudden it was gone again.. Can someone tell me whats going on?
To me those look like they are caused by overclocking. What've you got on there? Tried a soft reset? Or for that matter a hard reset (don't forget this is a full wipe)?
i am going to hard reset in couple minutes.. i hope you are right.. BTW i was cloackıng only at 240mhz just like everyone else.. i hope its only cloacking.. because touch screen works..
nope it didnt fix anytthing.. what might be the problem.. anyone who has an idea please post something.. Anything will be helpful.. I dont want to lose my phone.. (
you might just have to disassemble it, and check the connection on the ribbon cables. It looks like they are the culprit, i've seen that kind of screen before. Good luck.
if you can tell me or describe me how to do it, i have the tools.. I can just check it right now
impwiz said:
you might just have to disassemble it, and check the connection on the ribbon cables. It looks like they are the culprit, i've seen that kind of screen before. Good luck.
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yep this is the best option...but be carefull the wizard csing tabs are crap...they brake very easy,
can you guys tell me how to do it?
Check the Wizard's Wiki.. under "Hardware" for the service manual.
Before tearing it up, I would suggest that you make sure it's actually booting - turn it on with a SIM that doesn't have a pin and then call your phone and see if it rings. (You could also try to use Activesync)
yes it rings.. but since i ve hard reseted it, i cant align screen and stuff.. i was using pocket controller to see my contacts and other things.. but now.. i cant install anything until i can get pass thru that align screen stuff.. and right now, it seems impossible cuz i have that wierd screen..
newyorker said:
yes it rings.. but since i ve hard reseted it, i cant align screen and stuff.. i was using pocket controller to see my contacts and other things.. but now.. i cant install anything until i can get pass thru that align screen stuff.. and right now, it seems impossible cuz i have that wierd screen..
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Try this to skip align screen. It worked for me.
Peace,
Tom
thanx tom.. it worked..
BTW.. when i disassamble the wizard, what will i look into fix?
newyorker said:
thanx tom.. it worked..
BTW.. when i disassamble the wizard, what will i look into fix?
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No problem.
After you check your phone, try to follow steps in this Service Manual. Of course you don't need to disassembly everything like speakers etc but make sure that all the cables/tapes are connected correctly. Also when you take out the LCD you'll be able to check if it's cracked or not.
I hope that it's not the LCD driver/card that is broken because then you'd have more problems.
Cheers and keep us posting,
Tom
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thanx tom.. it worked..
BTW.. when i disassamble the wizard, what will i look into fix?
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First off examine the ribbon for any cracks and wierd marks. If you see none, reconnect the ribbon and see if that helps. Failing that, odds are the screen is gone.
I get this issue occasionally (having taken my Wizard apart a few times). I think it's the ribbon between the screen and the m/board. If I press down on the housing around the screen and turn it off/on it usually cures it. I also experience more issues when the device is cold. I assume it's due to a poor connection.
I've not seen anywhere selling this replacement part on its own, but if anyone knows of one please do tell.
ok.. Here is the thing.. i took the phone apart..looked at every single wire chip and cables and yes the LCD.. everything seems to be fine.. LCD is not cracked as far as i can tell and none of the wires are damaged.. i ve used cotton wool, and a piece of cloth (the one just like in the manual) and cleaned the wires and that ribbon.. Put everything back together, and its the same.. but one thing i didnt do was unpluging the wires that was connected to screen (attachment image.jpg).. should i open it up again and try to disconnect and reconnect that cable?
I would suggest to open it again and unplug and plug again every tape/cable which might have impact in the screen.
Peace,
Tom
ok.. i will do that right now..
nope.. still the same.. i think i am going to go crazy here!!..
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I don't know why this setting can solve this problem (May be).
Go to
start > Setting > Connection > USB to PC
Step:
1. Uncheck USB to PC
2. Start > Setting > System > Screeen > Calibration the Alignment of Screen
3. Soft Reset.
My friend also use CHT9000 (Taiwan Version) and told me this method. After the above mentioned adjustment, not alignment problem up to this moment.
I also use this method. 2 days gone, no alignment problem was found. I will keep to update this post in the future.
Hope it can help. :roll:
anyone else tried this? anything to comment?
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anyone else tried this? anything to comment?
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There is a thread or two about this on the general side or somewhere.
"Search" will work fine.
I tought it is working but not.
I have contacted with the local HTC/QTEK partner.
Waiting for the official solution.
BR,
Joe
I think that I may have a proper fix. my alignment seemed to be fixed by a rom upgrade but has been getting prgressively worse for a few days. Last night I tried something hardware based. I will test this for two days before I will say what it is but I have had no misalignment issue in the few hours since I did it.
Phil
could you post what you did so even if it doesnt work, we would know?
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could you post what you did so even if it doesnt work, we would know?
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Ok it hasn't shifted at all today!
I was going to open it up to have a look at the rubber gasket that was mentioned in another post but chickened out!
Optional but probably a good idea; turn off and remove the battery.
1) Slide keyboard out and turn face down.
2) There are 2 tiny screws on the back of the screen that need to be undone. They have thread lock on them so a small crack will be heard as it releases.
3) Once the screws are out a further small crack noise may be heard. That'll be the tension being taken off the screen!
4) Put the screws back in and tighten (or should that be TyTN?). Do not over tighten these as it is only plastic.
5) If necessary realign the screen (hopefully for the last time)
As kind of proof that this has worked, this post was made from my v1605 on hsdpa while I was talking on the phone using bluetooth and got very hot and didn't need any realigning!
Hope it works for others!
Phil
I have the O2 Trion and my screen will be slight misaligned at the right side (cant use the vert scroll bar) . Is this exactly your problem ?
Does your problem happened again, if not could you post some pic/steps on how you did it ?
Thanks :roll:
4) Put the screws back in and tighten (or should that be TyTN?). Do not over tighten these as it is only plastic.
as long as there is no excessive used here, that is what you mean right?
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I have the O2 Trion and my screen will be slight misaligned at the right side (cant use the vert scroll bar) . Is this exactly your problem ?
Does your problem happened again, if not could you post some pic/steps on how you did it ?
Thanks :roll:
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That's what mine was doing when it got hot but it has been perfect all day!
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4) Put the screws back in and tighten (or should that be TyTN?). Do not over tighten these as it is only plastic.
as long as there is no excessive used here, that is what you mean right?
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You're correct. Before I did this one screw was clearly at an angle and afterwards it was straight.
If anyone else has success let me know and I'll try to get some photos and do a how-to on the wiki.
Phil
i tried this out for my friend and he claims that while it did fix the alignment problem on the right side, sometimes the screen becomes slightly misaligned. could be that i tightened a bit too hard so will look into this.
I'll try to get some photos and do a how-to on the wiki.
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yes please
hi ...
when I undone the 2 screws.. i dont hear ANY noise... but I remove and returned it a little bit untight.
Let see... :roll:
Anybody had any success with this?
I haven't had any alignment issues since I did this 2 days ago.
Phil
low405 said:
Anybody had any success with this?
I haven't had any alignment issues since I did this 2 days ago.
Phil
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When I did it for my friend, he claims that the screen, while does not have as serious an alignment problem as before, still has it. Its not that bad.
He notices that the problem usually comes after making a call. No matter how long the call (whether for 1 min or 40 mins), the screen will be slightly mis-aligned and needs to be re-aligned. Things like pressing the 'ENTER' button on the phone pad does not work unless he presses a certain part of the button.
Any advice for him?
low45,
I undone the 2 screws but hear no click or crack and return it back not so tight... is that the correct way... I will monitor mine, since it only happening once a day..
Though I do not hv one but I can inform that it is the bad quality of work..this has been happening to all the recent G4 Wizards and Prophets with SZ series serial number.
I think thehardware design has gone wrong..
Pls check yr serial number..if they start from HT or SZ
i think all the HTC Hermes manufactured are of the HT version
screw no help
ok... after a day.. it happened again...
I just hard reset and did not load the extROM last night... let see .. :roll:
me i go back to change it
i have HT630xxxx and no probleme
Hi there, my phones screen will not work, my friend kept opening and closing they keypad quickly after which he gave me the phone back and the screen did not work!
The problem im having is that the touch screen dont work, nothin else is wrong, the screen is not cracked, jus that it dont touch sceen no more.
The bad thing is I put it on boot mode and erased the phone memory, and since the touch screen dont work i can allign the cross thing.
Does anyone know a way in which i could fix this?
Cheers.
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Hi there, my phones screen will not work, my friend kept opening and closing they keypad quickly after which he gave me the phone back and the screen did not work!
The problem im having is that the touch screen dont work, nothin else is wrong, the screen is not cracked, jus that it dont touch sceen no more.
The bad thing is I put it on boot mode and erased the phone memory, and since the touch screen dont work i can allign the cross thing.
Does anyone know a way in which i could fix this?
Cheers.
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Mmmm. Tricky perhaps. A hard reset will either cure or leave you stuck. If you hard reset and the screen is indeed dead (touch wise) then you'll never get past the alignment stage. If the touch issue is software related then you would be sorted with the hard reset.
A gamble I think!!
However you are stuck at the moment so in a sense you have nothing to lose. If it ends up being useless then you are faced with a warranty (hopefully) repair otherwise some DIY though it's not entirely obvious what has broken/come loose - possibly just a ribbon connector.
Mike
Maybe the ribbon cable came loose on the LCD side?
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Maybe the ribbon cable came loose on the LCD side?
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Yeah i think its that as well, i hard reseted it a few times with no effect, in the begining of the day, it could still reconise the screen taps around 2/3 times before it totally went dead.
Are there any tutorials on how to open it up to check the ribbon?
Thanks.
This maybe the hardware problem with the mainboard itself. I read about this on here a few times, most people had the get their phones exchange....
myztikal47 said:
This maybe the hardware problem with the mainboard itself. I read about this on here a few times, most people had the get their phones exchange....
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Yes, I am equally unsure that this is just a simple loose connector. It may be, but it appears to be fine for a short while and only then goes off.
Like you myztikal47, I suggest going for warranty replacement if at all possible. Only if you have no warranty shuld you attempt a repair yourself - this is a notoriously ellusive fix and indeed I would say there is no 100% works for all answer. Certainly do not assume it's the screen - most probably it isn't and you'll waste your money.
There are dismantling links in this forum - but you'll find them on my small Hermes site http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com- go to the loose keyboard section and you'll see the links.
Mike
my 8525 had the same exact problem, and i swapped the LCD and still doess the same thing...
I dont know what the problem could be, and i dont have a warranty.
What could be going on????
Any 1 know where 2 find the service manual????
Jorge
[email protected]
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Yes, I am equally unsure that this is just a simple loose connector. It may be, but it appears to be fine for a short while and only then goes off.
Like you myztikal47, I suggest going for warranty replacement if at all possible. Only if you have no warranty shuld you attempt a repair yourself - this is a notoriously ellusive fix and indeed I would say there is no 100% works for all answer. Certainly do not assume it's the screen - most probably it isn't and you'll waste your money.
There are dismantling links in this forum - but you'll find them on my small Hermes site http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com- go to the loose keyboard section and you'll see the links.
Mike
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Ok my best bet is to take it to carphone, i got my screen replaced there a few months ago, think i still have a 1 year warrenty
Thanks for all your help anyways
Tytn Service manual
jblandon1024 said:
my 8525 had the same exact problem, and i swapped the LCD and still doess the same thing...
I dont know what the problem could be, and i dont have a warranty.
What could be going on????
Any 1 know where 2 find the service manual????
Jorge
[email protected]
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Here you can found the manual
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0GD472TP
Roby
hi,
since yesterday, my niki doesn´t response to touchscreen tapping if the slider is opened. i hear a very quiet metallic clicking sound if i open it up... if i try tapping the touchscreen before this little click appears, the touch works... but with slider open completely, it doesn´t. i guess this is hardware specific. i´ve tried a hardreset now, but still doesnt work any advice?
EDIT: i didnt flash any other radio...
EDIT2: sometimes it does work.
Sounds like a ribbon cable has come loose to the touch screen - send it back if it is under warranty, if not, Mike Channon has collected links to the service manuals somewhere on here which should show you how to correctly take it apart, fix it and put it back together again
Cheers,
Smiffy
I had the same problem. In my device it was: cable that goes to touch screen contacted metal on back panel.
I've solve it by finding manual to take my niki apart (http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_touch_dual/ - but it is in russian). I've done everything till 6 point. Then I put my v-card between this cable and metal. Now it's ok
I've got extra service on mine.
6 euro's a month.
handed in the phone today (same issue), and got given an new one! ;D
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I had the same problem. In my device it was: cable that goes to touch screen contacted metal on back panel.
I've solve it by finding manual to take my niki apart (http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_touch_dual/ - but it is in russian). I've done everything till 6 point. Then I put my v-card between this cable and metal. Now it's ok
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You ROCK! I had this exact same problem happen on my NIKI100 after I put Tom's Niki Project ROM on & immediately blamed it but after flashin back to stock the problem still occured & I was really bummin! I found this thread, tore my NIKI apart to step 6 as you described & I could see the spots on the metal of the inside back of the back cover where the cable was rubbing along with the protective plastic worn off on the cable a little bit so I suspect it was touching the metal & shorting out causing the problem (heck I'm surprised it didn't do some real damage!) so I cut about a 1" length of electrical tape & taped it to the area of the metal that it was rubbing on (I didn't see any legit reason for anything to make contact to that area for a ground so I figured it was OK. I started at the edge & ended just before the gaps where you would be able to see the tape from the other side in the battery cavity) and VOILA! it fixed it! To me it looks like a nasty design flaw on HTC's part but not expecting a recall any time soon. I suspect this fix will out last the phone & hopefully this thread will help others. I am 1/2 tempted to tear apart my NEON to see if the same design exists or if they put a piece of tape in that area.
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hi,
since yesterday, my niki doesn´t response to touchscreen tapping if the slider is opened. i hear a very quiet metallic clicking sound if i open it up... if i try tapping the touchscreen before this little click appears, the touch works... but with slider open completely, it doesn´t. i guess this is hardware specific. i´ve tried a hardreset now, but still doesnt work any advice?
EDIT: i didnt flash any other radio...
EDIT2: sometimes it does work.
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well i got the same problem as u have/had... But i also need to align my phone like ten times a day, because its always out of alignment... I think i got to get back to the phoneshop to fix(replace) my phone. I do have the touch dual for 6 months now.
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well i got the same problem as u have/had... But i also need to align my phone like ten times a day, because its always out of alignment... I think i got to get back to the phoneshop to fix(replace) my phone. I do have the touch dual for 6 months now.
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Hm, same problem here. Thought first that it was an error of the ROM that I used..
Btw: isolated every contat that I could find (nearly ) but no result -> still my touchscreen doesn't work when my slide is open..
EDIT: has anyone PHOTO'S of their disassembly and isolation work? I the problem is different on my device 'cuz the cable hasn't worn off...
Ok,
Now I took my device apart to the last piece, took the display cable apart, taped it in completely and my touchscreen WORKS once again :-D.
Woot! Thumbs up for XDA-developers!
EDIT: Now my touchscreen doesn't work when slide's closed... Any suggestion?
kvstrien said:
Ok,
Now I took my device apart to the last piece, took the display cable apart, taped it in completely and my touchscreen WORKS once again :-D.
Woot! Thumbs up for XDA-developers!
EDIT: Now my touchscreen doesn't work when slide's closed... Any suggestion?
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ive brought my dual to a vodafone shop and they have fixed my dual. Replaced a part and software update, got windows 6.1 now, legal and my screen is working like a champ!
I have had the same problem with my touch screen except mine stopped working completely, it didn't matter if it was slide out or not. I could get the phone replaced on warranty though.
Just posting so people know this isn't just isolated case.
mine slowly stopped working.. im gonna disassemble later and try this. im glad im not alone
edit: worked a treat. some insulation tape on the metal shielding worked great.
That did't work for me! Can it be something else or is it the flex cable for shure? I'm considering buying a new flex cable on ebay! Will that fix the problem with touchscreen dos'nt work when slide is open?
theres a 99% chance that its the flex cable.. did you check it for any damage? mine had tiny tiny little dots with wire exposed. barely noticable but it was enough. try taping the cable. i dont know. if not, i'd get a new cable for sure.
It's worth a try. I've just bought a new cable. Hopefully it will make my
Dual working again. Now I just have to wait a week for it.
The cable arrived today and my dual now works perfect. Now the question is which phone i'll use, my dual or my new Diamond.. =)
hey, where did you get yours from? and how much did it cost?
i have seen ebay, but they are over 30$US including shipping.
Cheers,
palitu
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The cable arrived today and my dual now works perfect. Now the question is which phone i'll use, my dual or my new Diamond.. =)
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Hello,
After many hours of searching I havent found something that is like my problem. I got this model recently, and now the touch area issint working. In landscape mode only the bottom of the screen is working.
Is does not mather if you push for example in the left upper side corner or the left lower side corner.... Both will result in getting "Phone" up
I havent tried a hard reset or something. And Im running the standard Vodafone rom on it. (Windows mobile 5)
Is this problem hardware or software? and is there perhaps some kind of software so I can get a mouse cursor with my Arrow-keys?
I hope you guys can give me some answers. Its a waste not using this phone
I have also no idea what the reason is why its not working. It did not drop on the floor or something like that.
Thanks in advance,
Erlerain
erlerain said:
Hello,
After many hours of searching I havent found something that is like my problem. I got this model recently, and now the touch area issint working. In landscape mode only the bottom of the screen is working.
Is does not mather if you push for example in the left upper side corner or the left lower side corner.... Both will result in getting "Phone" up
I havent tried a hard reset or something. And Im running the standard Vodafone rom on it. (Windows mobile 5)
Is this problem hardware or software? and is there perhaps some kind of software so I can get a mouse cursor with my Arrow-keys?
I hope you guys can give me some answers. Its a waste not using this phone
Thanks in advance,
Erlerain
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Welcome to the forum
I´ve never heard of this problem, but if I were you I try to reflas with another ROM to see if corrects (see the Wiki to learn how to), if not perhaps could be a hardware problem...
Good luck,
erlerain said:
Hello,
... In landscape mode only the bottom of the screen is working.
Is does not mather if you push for example in the left upper side corner or the left lower side corner.... Both will result in getting "Phone" up
...
Thanks in advance,
Erlerain
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Have you tried to re-align the screen?
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Have you tried to re-align the screen?
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Yes, but it is not getting the points that it should get. So you can try it a thousand times, and it would not make a diffreance.
Anyone? (sorry to bumb)
I have the same problem. Though I read on someplace that the screen is actualy getting pressed somewhere. try these steps and check after each try.
1st: Massage the screen softly all over.
2nd: Take a something very thin and move it under the edges of the screen.
3rd: (this on is the one that usualy works for me) try to tap softly on the back of the screen.(The aluminum plate) tap it all around the back of it.
4th: (this is the last way out when step 3 doesn't work for me.) Tap softly around the screen.
Gonna put up a video on youtube on how I do it. so you get to know how hard to tap and stuff. Since I guess we're not the only people with this problem.
Edit: Ehm. does anyone know a good free webcam recording program so I can make a video.
Ive already tried those steps. did not work
Then open the monitor part of the phone and press on the backside of the LCD.
Yep, thought the same. Ive tried to open the casing of the monitor part, but its pretty hard to get the plastic cover off
Ill try it soon again.
Thanks MiZore for ur active answering
No problem, but if you find a solution that lasts please write how here. Because I also have this problem. You have to use a little force to the the cover off. There is a dissassembly guide somewhere, I can find it for you if you haven't used it already.
i dont have that guide
Here's the guide
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC Universal Service Manual
I've found another temporary solution. Take a good grip on each side of screenpart of the universal, then bend it softly back and then forth. This hasn't failed me once yet. But still no permanent solution.
gonna open mine and put something that will apply a constant pressure to the back of the screen like som cotton or something simmilar. I'll let you know the results.
Also, do you use a replacement battery or the original that came with the Uni?
Okay I opened it up today, and I think I've found the problem. Though not 100% sure. From my inspections one of the cables(small ones inside the silver tape) on the flexcable is not connected. and sadly I'm not that skilled with fixing it. So I'm gonna order a new one. I will tell you if it helps.
Okey, so I continued working on the uni today again.
Ive de-assembled the entire screen section. inspected it if anything looked broken. Wich was not the case.
Re-assembled everything again. but I still have the same problem.
As far as I know I use the retail battery
When I have some spair time ill try to look for some damaged cables.
I dont see the future of this device very brightfull
erlerain said:
Okey, so I continued working on the uni today again.
Ive de-assembled the entire screen section. inspected it if anything looked broken. Wich was not the case.
Re-assembled everything again. but I still have the same problem.
As far as I know I use the retail battery
When I have some spair time ill try to look for some damaged cables.
I dont see the future of this device very brightfull
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Well I had to cut open the gray cover for the cables to see the damage.
But I'll see what happens when my new cable arrives.
I've installed the new cable and that fixed the touchscreen for me.
But now my sound won't work for some reason....
So today my Titan started acting up. When I slide the keyboard out the screen freezes. I can still type by nothing will show up on the screen until I close the keyboard.
Also If I hold the keyboard halfway slid out the phone will work normally(but can't type with half the keys), however once I go past a certain point the screen freezes?
Hardware or software issue? I'm debating a reflash.
I can see these thin metal wires inbetween the keyboard and screen when I slide it out, I wonder if it has something do do with these.
Well the reflash didn't work. I took the phone apart and still can't figure out the issue. Seems like it might be with one of the cables connecting to the LCD screen.
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Well the reflash didn't work. I took the phone apart and still can't figure out the issue. Seems like it might be with one of the cables connecting to the LCD screen.
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I have literally the same EXACT problem. Have you gone to WM 6.5 beta yet by any chance? I started having the problem and numerous others when I went to 6.5. Idk, if you figure it out please tell me. I will be trying to fix the problem too.
Well, I have found the reason why mine wasn't working properly. My flex cable attached to the screen that goes to the actually phone motherboard is ripped. Would anyone happen to have one??? I can't find any on the internet. I have searched everywhere. Please help. Thank you!
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Well, I have found the reason why mine wasn't working properly. My flex cable attached to the screen that goes to the actually phone motherboard is ripped. Would anyone happen to have one??? I can't find any on the internet. I have searched everywhere. Please help. Thank you!
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I think that is my problem too. The cable looks woren. Poor design.