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Several ROM upgrade questions

this is a great forum. i have learned a lot from the last week gathering info and upgrading my XDA from O2Asia PPC2002 to T-Mobile WM2003 and AT&T WM2003 and back to T-Mobile.
i like the A.30.09 ROM but the sound problem is completely useless. i like the 4.01.16 ENG ROM but hate all the extra T-mobile stuff which i don't use and the problem with the band selection of 900 or 1900 only. that means i either have to be careful not to accidentally touch the Band tab while changing settings or never go with a 1800 provider which i am considering. fixing it with the bootloader means i have to completely re-install everything again.
some device info:
Before upgrade: 3.20.06 ENG 07/30/03 4.21.01 32S54 PW10A1
After upgrade: 4.01.16 ENG 02/04/04 4.21.01 G32S54 PW10B1
my questions:
1. why the change in the protocol version on bootup and the device now identifies itself as a 900/1900 device when it was a 900/1800 device? does this mean i could use this like a tri-band phone if i ever go to the US?
2. my bootloader is now V6.22 and i would like to change it to 5.15 with the files from the bootloader.zip file i downloaded from here. is that advisable? can i also back up the present 6.22 bootloader in case i need to restore it someday when returning it for service?
3. is there an English WM2003 ROM which has band options of 900/1800 instead of 900/1900. or some means to change that in the registry or dll edit? if T-mobile can create an app to switch bands without going to the bootloader, surely someone here can modify it too.
4. can the ROM kitchens take out the useless T-mobile apps, PDF viewer, Powerpoint presenter and Syncrologic app? Could release more space for other apps or the Permanent Save feature right?
5. i have Spb Pocket Plus installed and i notice the repeating alarms feature is missing. the WM2003 repeating alarm feature is not as good. is there a workaround?
6. i notice the signal strength indicator fluctuates a lot more and shows less signal strength sometimes. i don't think it's really getting a weaker signal. is it because PPC2002 wasn't telling me the truth or WM2003 is indeed seeing less strength?
i would go back to PPC2002 but i like the dual volume controls, midi ringtones, Wordlogic keyboard that works properly and Jawbreaker!!
appreciate any and all feedback.
thanks!

donpkong said:
1. why the change in the protocol version on bootup and the device now identifies itself as a 900/1900 device when it was a 900/1800 device? does this mean i could use this like a tri-band phone if i ever go to the US?
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No, the XDA is a dual band device ... no matter what's read in the device info, the rear sticker is where you get the real type (of course if the mother board was not replaced!)
2. my bootloader is now V6.22 and i would like to change it to 5.15 with the files from the bootloader.zip file i downloaded from here. is that advisable? can i also back up the present 6.22 bootloader in case i need to restore it someday when returning it for service?
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If you can flash your ROM using 6.22 (it surprises me!), then no need to down grade it ... or if it's really a must, you can use the batch file fixbootloder.bat which comes with the XDAtools.
3. is there an English WM2003 ROM which has band options of 900/1800 instead of 900/1900. or some means to change that in the registry or dll edit? if T-mobile can create an app to switch bands without going to the bootloader, surely someone here can modify it too.
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No, the band switcher comes only with t-mobile ROMs which are designed for 900/1900 device. The best way is to use the GSM switcher from the boot loader screen.
4. can the ROM kitchens take out the useless T-mobile apps, PDF viewer, Powerpoint presenter and Syncrologic app? Could release more space for other apps or the Permanent Save feature right?
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It's not easy to update the NK.nbf file which is the original ROM image for XDA, but you can swich all this stuff off by unchecking them in Today's items list and remove the Vbattery.lnk file from \windows\startup directory
5. i have Spb Pocket Plus installed and i notice the repeating alarms feature is missing. the WM2003 repeating alarm feature is not as good. is there a workaround?
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you can use a wav file which contains a repeated alarm sound ... not so smart but it works!
6. i notice the signal strength indicator fluctuates a lot more and shows less signal strength sometimes. i don't think it's really getting a weaker signal. is it because PPC2002 wasn't telling me the truth or WM2003 is indeed seeing less strength?
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It's not that indicative ... the point is to be able to make/receive calls. If you have GPRS or CSD line, you can use the page www.texan.net/speed.htm to measure your link speed.

Upgrade ROM with PUG's on Asia ROM

Having been unable to get any sense out of O2 in Thailand or Singapore, I took the plunge and installed the PUG ROM (stripped version) from this forum. This went smoothly and most issues that I was having have been resolved. There are however a couple of caveats, obviously the Autoconfig utility goes, not a big issue but I found that using Orange I could not initially receive calls but after making a couple of outgoing calls could. Looking through the Phone settings I note that the Band Selection is gone, i.e. Auto, 900, 1800 etc. presumably this is installed with the Autoconfig. However I think this is not a major issue just to KIV. The issue of the 'vanishing' screen orientation shortcut at the bottom of the today screen isn't resolved, it vanished very quickly. Anyone know how to resolve this one?
Another advantage of the PUG ROM is that it gives more memory!

I've installed pug's rom with o2 crap stripped and camera being improved and it's working find. I did share the same problems like you but it's all gone. I should say almost all but the missing screen orientation icon on the bottom of the today screen.
As for the band selector etc., maybe the following would be of any use to you. You can download custom asia rom here:
http://files.pdamobiz.com/ROMs/XDA/Alpine/ExtROM_XDAIIi_v1.11Cooked_2577.rar
you'll find some rom goodies there. Just install whichever you like with a cab installer program so that you can put them in your storage instead of cluttering your main memory!
cheers from your ASEAN friend.

Cooked Asian EXT Rom
Cheers, downloaded this, indeed has quite a few things that may be of use...

downloading it, hope this one will work.

The only things that missing are:
1. Screen orientation button
2. Band network selector
is that all ?
using ftp://xda:[email protected]_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped_Camera_Fixed.rar
sorry for the silly questions.

autoconfigurator
hi. any cab files for the autoconfigurator in the original O2 rom?

Missing screen rotation icon
Has anybody found out how to restore this feature?

Combine pugs ROM with the one from pdamobiz.com
Just take the Autoconfig Asia from pdamobiz and make our own Extended ROM......
Im sure it will help you.....

Is the screenrotate.dll still part of the startup service?
I used Memmaid to check on the startup service of my Alpine. (Still using stock 02 Asia ROM, and still trying to understand to cook own ROM)
If pug's ROM still has the screenrotate.dll in startup service, can we have the icon back by editing the registry?

Screen Rotate & Band Selection CABs
Found something that might be of interest for those who want the band selection and screen rotate icon.
Found out from O2 asia ExtROM that there is a bandsel file... from another forum I read it was for band selection in Phone properties. Might be the band selection everyone here is looking for.
The other is RotateSE.Arm.CAB. Stated it is for rotate screen.
The first I have attached a copy but for the second I can't seem to DL it but rest assured will post it ASAP.
Haven't tried it out, I'm still making research to customize my own ExtROM.
Hope this helps!

JP2005 said:
Found something that might be of interest for those who want the band selection and screen rotate icon.
Found out from O2 asia ExtROM that there is a bandsel file... from another forum I read it was for band selection in Phone properties. Might be the band selection everyone here is looking for.
Hope this helps!
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Could you copy the bandsel.exe file from your phone and add it here to a zip file? I'm trying to fix the crippled bandsel.exe from my blackjack. No, it's not mine which is "broken". It just comes like that straight from Cingular.

3G Symbol

Hi all,
I recently got my SPV 3100. I am using the original Orange ROM and extended Rom. Intially the 3G symbol was showing after the installation of the extended ROM. Now, after I have installed loads of apps, the symbol has reverted back to a U. Has anybody had similar or are there any solutions?
Thanks

Isn't the U (a very short version of the word "UMTS") the 3G symbol? The G is for GPRS/EDGE connection...

Yes it is - but i prefer to actually say 3G

Allright.. But what is the 3G symbole (as compared to the U symbol)?

It is just 3G rather than U

True, but its still bugs me, there must be a way to fic this?

there is, don't cancel the ext rom install. One of the cabs adds the 3G symbol. Either that or find out which cab does it and manually install it. Depends entirely on how much it bothers you.

shouldn't ot just be a case of replacing the "U" bmp with a "3G" bmp
can't find the "U" bmp/icon though
all the others are in the windows directory i.e. the "G" icon and all the other icons but not the "U" icon
where is it?

Guys,
These icons are held in phcanOverbmp.dll, you will need a resource editor like HeavenTools Resource Tuner to edit it. However, I tried this and was not successful, the files saved OK and I even signed it (possibly not correctly). I then placed it in the windows directory but for some reason it would not pick it up, still got the U. If I use the original Vodafone one which has the 3G icons it works fine (so I knwo it is definately this file) but the problem here is that this file also contains the Call History icons and I do not like the vodafone ones.
If anyone has any luck let me know.

I have rerun the orange ext Rom but the icon is still a U. I have installed the vodafone dialer skin, I wonder if this has something to do with it?

850mhz Radio

Hey guys,
i've tried a few rom's on my aussie device yet the 850mhz band is locked out/not showing...900mhz is though. Is anybody able to cook me a radio/rom with this option?? Or is there a .cab file i can install to fix this??
Thanks!

I know under 6.1 what was addvised was a reg edit to display an option for the 850 frequency i tried it and yes it did display but i never tested to see if i got coverage with it i assum the same would appy i may have the reg key extracted of a telstra hd handset around i will look again i have not tried this on a 6.5 rom and even if it does display have not tested for next g coverage
let me know if you want me to track it down

dualay said:
I know under 6.1 what was addvised was a reg edit to display an option for the 850 frequency i tried it and yes it did display but i never tested to see if i got coverage with it i assum the same would appy i may have the reg key extracted of a telstra hd handset around i will look again i have not tried this on a 6.5 rom and even if it does display have not tested for next g coverage
let me know if you want me to track it down
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Hey that would be amazing if you could find it as I'm on the next g network and been looking for a while!

worked out how to up load file here i had to zip it as .reg files are vaild for here let me know how you go

thanks for that! Now how do i install it? It's asking me to start a program on the handset when i try to...any tips? I'm coming up blank with the search...
sorry guys, i un did the hidden folder thing as windows wasn't showing..now..where do i put it in the device's windows directory??

If you put the phone in "auto", it will pick the 850MHz band, no matter what the registry (or the scroll down menu) says
For instance, try manually changing to 3G only, and leave the band in "auto"

Un zip the file copy file to the hd or memory card "IMPORTANT YOU MUST HAVE A REGISTRY PROGRAM THAT CAN IMPORT A KEY" open the regisrty edit program go to the section that you use to import a key then it will as you for the key to import point it to the file you just placed on the HD eith the phone it's self or memory card. Once key is imported you can delete file

Would this work on a tri-band phone in the US of A?

How can I get my TMO US HD2 like this?

Please look at the attached photo, which is directly off of HTC's Europe website. The top taskbar shows the "H" (HSDPA) icon both above the "signal bars" and also to the left of them. On my TMO US branded HD2, I only get a generic "3G" icon above the signal bars, but nothing to the left (i.e. the "H" in the box as seen in the picture). Is there any way, aside from flashing a cooked rom, to get my HD2 to look like the Euro one? The only thing I want is to see the "H" both above and to the left of the signal bars. Please help, thanks in advance.

Try Lost in Asia ROM. Search the member "bobsbbq". The ROM is fine with few minor bugs.
Note: the ROM in the member's sig will work with US version HD2 (I installed 235xx Glass)

You just have to unlock it via a reg edit I believe. You might be able to find a cab through some searching. All it means is that you are connected via HSDPA.Which is really just 3g+, in real terms a bit faster then standard 3g depending on the exact connection and signal.

That is HSDPA or 3.5G service which is not available in all markets I think. I live in Northern VA and I get the H almost everywhere but sometimes I just get 3G bars when I'm not close to a major city

with a minute to search it was found. Try that it should give you a switch in connection settings to turn it on and off. If you have HSDPA in your area then you'll see it show up if not then you'll never see it short of modding the actual 3g image file.

T-Mobile branding removed G/E/3G/H icons on the left of signal icon. To get it back, you need custom taskbar or de-brand your phone.
Don't forget to run HSPL2 before flashing custom ROM.

Wil Badger said:
with a minute to search it was found. Try that it should give you a switch in connection settings to turn it on and off. If you have HSDPA in your area then you'll see it show up if not then you'll never see it short of modding the actual 3g image file.
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With a minute to read, its evident that's not what I was asking. It appears as though Mingkee is right, TMo does like to remove the "H" icon. HSDPA can be enabled from the stock ROM, there is no need for the "switch". Thanks everyone.

The T-Mobile USA branded HD2 does not have the independent icon on the task bar. I actually hardreset my deivce twice thinking that the cabs I installed messed up my device or something.
All you have to do is install a custom taskbar and you would get it back. Not a big deal, as that icon is redundent, as it would just mimic what ever that comes up above the singal bars. Its a matter of getting used to it.

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The T-Mobile USA branded HD2 does not have the independent icon on the task bar. I actually hardreset my deivce twice thinking that the cabs I installed messed up my device or something.
All you have to do is install a custom taskbar and you would get it back. Not a big deal, as that icon is redundent, as it would just mimic what ever that comes up above the singal bars. Its a matter of getting used to it.
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What he said

Take a look at this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=602295
I installed this on my Stock TmoUS HD2 and it works perfectly.
Cheers

Jgonz202 said:
That is HSDPA or 3.5G service which is not available in all markets I think. I live in Northern VA and I get the H almost everywhere but sometimes I just get 3G bars when I'm not close to a major city
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how is tmo service and 3g in nova?
im at school and just switched from att for the phone and havent gone home yet so im hoping it wont suck. i had it 4 years ago and it was prettyyy bad

sikkboy626 said:
Please look at the attached photo, which is directly off of HTC's Europe website. The top taskbar shows the "H" (HSDPA) icon both above the "signal bars" and also to the left of them. On my TMO US branded HD2, I only get a generic "3G" icon above the signal bars, but nothing to the left (i.e. the "H" in the box as seen in the picture). Is there any way, aside from flashing a cooked rom, to get my HD2 to look like the Euro one? The only thing I want is to see the "H" both above and to the left of the signal bars. Please help, thanks in advance.
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I installed the 1% battery bar on my USA HD2 and it brought the H and everything else with it for data notification

Already working?
Does that mean that inspite of having the 3G icon on the taskbar, the 3.5G or HSDPA is actually working when using the mobile internet??
Because i really do feel that the internet thru network carrier is fast inspite of not having the H sign!

sevoflurane said:
Does that mean that inspite of having the 3G icon on the taskbar, the 3.5G or HSDPA is actually working when using the mobile internet??
Because i really do feel that the internet thru network carrier is fast inspite of not having the H sign!
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The H on the task bar means nothing other than looks. If you are the stock rom and you have HSPA+ in your area it will just hve faster data with the same 3G icon.

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The H on the task bar means nothing other than looks. If you are the stock rom and you have HSPA+ in your area it will just hve faster data with the same 3G icon.
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Thanks alot speoples20!! Just wanted to make sure of that, but how will i know it's 3G or 3.5G when i'm in a certain area and using mobile internet?

sevoflurane said:
Thanks alot speoples20!! Just wanted to make sure of that, but how will i know it's 3G or 3.5G when i'm in a certain area and using mobile internet?
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I can tell the difference just by pages loading faster but you can always test on sites like www.mobilespeedtest.com

I use this and it works great on the stock ROM no need for flashing. Here is the link...make sure you use both sdkcert files and restart after everyone you install. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679518

I don't think so
Is it worth to get bugs and crashes from installed cab files just for the sake of changing the way ur stock ROM looks?
I'd rather stick with the 3G sign only than to get cranky error msgs all the time!
But thanx anyways for the tips!

sevoflurane said:
Is it worth to get bugs and crashes from installed cab files just for the sake of changing the way ur stock ROM looks?
I'd rather stick with the 3G sign only than to get cranky error msgs all the time!
But thanx anyways for the tips!
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It depends on what kind of cabs you're installing if you're going to have problems. A simple taskbar icon cab does nothing but change the icon pictures. Some do more. I'm using these icons found here. It also requires sdkcertsnew2015.cab (found in same thread). I have not had one bug, crash or bad result from changing to those icons.

Phantoms said:
It depends on what kind of cabs you're installing if you're going to have problems. A simple taskbar icon cab does nothing but change the icon pictures. Some do more. I'm using these icons found here. It also requires sdkcertsnew2015.cab (found in same thread). I have not had one bug, crash or bad result from changing to those icons.
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I think i'm gonna give it a try, does it allow full uninstallation if i don't get along with it?
By the way, what does the sdkcerts cab file do, coz i saw it alot on other posts?