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Faulty Xperia - Ideas

Hi guys, I appreciate that this may not be the correct Forum but I get alot of knowledge from this site so if you guys dont know, no one will!!
My Xperia optical pad/joystick is having a mare...each time i rub my finger over it, my X1 trys to dial out and skips to menus. The phone has apparently become "moist" acording to the Vodafone shop (Which to me seems like an excuse)
I ahve wiped the device back to factory settings and the same errors keep happening. I have turned the Opt Pad off in settings but the pad still reacts to touches and just jumps though menus and try's to make calls!!
Is there a way that I can get this fixed or resolved or has anyone else got any ideas. This may be a hardware fault.
Thank you all.

Well I can imagine dust being behind the scroll 'wheel'. How about you try to blow it out with a can of compressed air?
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Hi,
Thank you, I have used a can of air and this seemed to make little difference.
Maybe I could get the device apart and give it a pro clean although I feel the actual joystick me be capput :/
Other ideas?
Thanksagain.

Moist? The only way I can see a phone becoming moist is either from a bit of rain or sweaty hands. Either way, phones are designed to withstand this otherwise they would be completly useless for outside use..

chanstarco said:
Hi guys, I appreciate that this may not be the correct Forum but I get alot of knowledge from this site so if you guys dont know, no one will!!
My Xperia optical pad/joystick is having a mare...each time i rub my finger over it, my X1 trys to dial out and skips to menus. The phone has apparently become "moist" acording to the Vodafone shop (Which to me seems like an excuse)
I ahve wiped the device back to factory settings and the same errors keep happening. I have turned the Opt Pad off in settings but the pad still reacts to touches and just jumps though menus and try's to make calls!!
Is there a way that I can get this fixed or resolved or has anyone else got any ideas. This may be a hardware fault.
Thank you all.
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I have the same issue. It does seem to happen more when I have been using the MobiPocket Reader to read a book for a while ... maybe my sweaty thumb is causing the issue ;-)
Seriously though, if this is really true about moisture I may have to trade my X1 in, it drives me nuts when this happens.
Is there a way to clean the optical joystick properly? (I'm going to try the air-from-a-can idea as well)

MrMiyagi said:
I have the same issue. It does seem to happen more when I have been using the MobiPocket Reader to read a book for a while ... maybe my sweaty thumb is causing the issue ;-)
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Autoscroll, the best feature in Mobi

fards said:
Autoscroll, the best feature in Mobi
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Nah, AutoScroll just irritates me , get distracted for a second and you lose your place.
I've resorted to using 'tap the screen to go to next page' option. Seems to work well BUT the point is the X1 shouldn't have this issue.
Vodafone have offered to 'repair' it for me, since it's still in warrenty, but it means sending it away for 10-14 days and in the meantime they can give me a 'loaner' which will of course be a peice of crap (I'll just use my TYTN).

Update:
I have found the issue! After looking on Google I came across a YouTube video of how to dismantle and reassemble the X1.
Turns out one of the transistors on the Optical pad circuit board had become slightly coroded, so I cleaned this up with a small soft brush and a minute drop of meths and put it back together and BINGO!
Also while the screen was out I left it overnight in airing cupboard in a ziplock bag with a pack of Sylica(Spelling) Gell.
Search YouTube for: "Xperia assemble Front/Back" User; CKY1
Hope this goes to help someone.
Cheers guys

in my case, I just adjusted the joystick to lower sensitivity...It worked without surgery..

so technically vodaphone was right. and it was a moisture problem.

Does your G1 screen have any "flex" with the screen open?

Hi,
New G1 today - With the screen slid open it feels almost loose (Eg, I can wiggle the screen about backwards and forwards [NOT slide it back into device]).
I do not find this problem when the G1 is in its PDair case however this is most probably because the leather strap that goes around the top of the phone removes any slack that it seems the G1 has.
I do not really want to return the phone as this is my 3rd handset (First 2 were faulty) and would be able to cope for it if this is a known thing that many have however if this is a significant problem I'd have no option...
Look forward to hearing from you.
Cheers.

My Dev phone has a fair amount of flex. I thought about trying to take it apart and tighten it up, but I think I'll let it get a little wear and tear before I go messing around with it like that. The only thing I am really worried about is if I ever drop it with the screen open which could result in it snapping all the way off, but in normal usage it isn't too terribly bad.

LavaChild0809 said:
New G1 today - With the screen slid open it feels almost loose (Eg, I can wiggle the screen about backwards and forwards [NOT slide it back into device]).
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It's normal and due to the relatively weak construction of the sliding arm design. Basically the entire screen swings and is held in place on all axes by one thin metal arm.
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Thanks for such brilliant replies - The photo inparticular is very interesting.
Only thing is reading back my description I'm not sure if I was clear.
Imagine holding the keyboard still and lifting the screen into and out of the photo... The screen has some give or flex in this axis.
Even now I'm not sure I've explained it well... Can you please confirm you understood correctly before and this behaviour is normal for a G1?
Thanks!

Basically there is no axis that the screen does not have a bit of give in, if you give enough force. Of course if the screen is just flopping around loose then that's probably a defect. But it's normal to be able to lift the screen away from the rest of the body when the screen is closed. Hopefully the next iteration will have a more robust design that attaches with atleast two points on the main body.

My above issue is when the screen is open (As in fully slid out)... I wouldn't say it is completely floppy but requires very little force to move. I don't mind if this is a design "flaw" but want to know so that I know if I need to return my G1 or not.
Thank you very much for all of your help - If you could confirm regarding my issue being when the screen is open (Fully slid out) that would be great.
Thanks again!

yea this is happening to me too, and i know its not normal bc my phones brand new and it didnt do this until the other day, and my other friends phones dont do it either

Not that this is what you want to hear....
I'd get another one.
HTC needs to get their crappy work back. I mean, I love what they do, but they don't exactly prioritize doing it well. If we keep sucking it up, they'll keep doing crappy work.

I'd say unless the screen unit is moving 1.0+ millimeters away from the casing then forget about exchanging. Some devices have looser screens than others. If your device has play in the lower left corner more than a millimeter then it is beyond the average. However, you should keep in mind that you might get a refurb in return and it could be worse or have other defects.

New Housing won't go to landscape when opening keyboard

Gooday
Have looked and searched but cant find answer
I have just replaced the housing on my jasjam and now when I open the keyboard the screen dosen't change to landscape mode (Ie rotate 90 deg)
Can someone please tell me where the switch contacts or whaterve is on the slider or how it works
I am getting very good a dis and re -assembly of the jasjam
Also any suggestions of a type of "glue" that can be used on the bits that are stuck to the back of the screen
THANKS
Barney318

barney318 said:
Gooday
Have looked and searched but cant find answer
I have just replaced the housing on my jasjam and now when I open the keyboard the screen dosen't change to landscape mode (Ie rotate 90 deg)
Can someone please tell me where the switch contacts or whaterve is on the slider or how it works
I am getting very good a dis and re -assembly of the jasjam
Also any suggestions of a type of "glue" that can be used on the bits that are stuck to the back of the screen
THANKS
Barney318
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Barney you are a bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad boy, bend over this is going to hurt! But trust me I know what I'm doing, I have a Manual for it:
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This has been asked few times by the folk who change casings but forget to move the magnet from the old casing to the new one. The switch is magnet operated and in fairness it's a tiny thing that is not obviously a magnet. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1535294&postcount=4
Mike
PS not sure you really need to glue anything on the back of the screen do you? Perhaps a little tape might be better if really necessary.

THANKS
Didn't hurt at all
Just another dis & re-assemble all is fine now
Thanks again
Barney318

barney318 said:
THANKS
Didn't hurt at all
Just another dis & re-assemble all is fine now
Thanks again
Barney318
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Good stuff
Mike

I know this is kind of an older thread, but when I searched for my problem, this is the most recent thread that came up.
I'm having a similar problem to the OP--I recently took my phone apart per the wiki because one of my tracks completely came off the rail. When I put it back together, I had an extra small square shaped rubber piece that fell off the motherboard and my keyboard is unrepsonsive when I slide it out in addition to it not going to landscape mode. The only thing is that I didn't take apart the part of the case with the magnet--I was able to get the slider thing back on the track without completely removing the very back housing. Is there anything else that might be causing the problem?
Sorry if this aspect has been gone over before; when I searched, this was the only thread I saw with a similar problem.

crazylikeafox11 said:
I know this is kind of an older thread, but when I searched for my problem, this is the most recent thread that came up.
I'm having a similar problem to the OP--I recently took my phone apart per the wiki because one of my tracks completely came off the rail. When I put it back together, I had an extra small square shaped rubber piece that fell off the motherboard and my keyboard is unrepsonsive when I slide it out in addition to it not going to landscape mode. The only thing is that I didn't take apart the part of the case with the magnet--I was able to get the slider thing back on the track without completely removing the very back housing. Is there anything else that might be causing the problem?
Sorry if this aspect has been gone over before; when I searched, this was the only thread I saw with a similar problem.
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Oh dearie me!!!
First, the little rubber piece is the microphone cover from the bottom end of the motherboard.
Second, the screen orientation does not work because the magnet operated switch is attached to the keyboard cable which is obviously not working because as you say the keyboard is not responsive.
The likely cause of both the keyboard problem and the orientation problem is this connector:
It's under the back cover and is OFTEN forgotten because when you replace the motherboard the push in connector gets curled up beneath the board rather than curling around to be plugged in. (OR you just need to push it firmly into place)​
A wider angle picture:​
Cheers​
Oh, and WELCOME to XDA-Devs​
Mike​

I remember that little metal piece but did not remember to put it back when I was putting my phone back together. I'll have to give that a try later as I've come down with the flu. Thanks for the help!

Thanks for the advice Mike. It worked like a charm. Turns out one of my sliders coming off the tracks was the best thing that happened to my phone. In taking it apart, I also found that the speaker connection had completely come off which was the cause of my phone not having sound. So now aside from some cosmetic damage, my phone is back to working like new.

HD2 Opening Instructions for dummies (only till Main PCB)

Disclaimer: Opening your HD2 will result in your warranty becoming VOID. Any damage to your HD2 as a result of following this walk-through is not my fault and was because you have large clumsy hands. If you want your phone repaired professionally without your warranty voided, send it to your supplier.
Tools you will need:
- HD2
- T5 screwdriver
- Tool kit for Phone/iPod/PSP (available on ebay, pictured below)
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1) To start off with, turn off the phone then remove the battery cover along with the battery, SIM card and SD card.
2) WARNING! This next step will VOID your warranty. Remove the 4 screws using the T5 screwdriver.
3) Now comes the fun bit, stick the suction cup near the top of the screen and insert the blue tool (for lack of a real name) between the screen and casing.
4) Once the blue tool is in you should be able to pop the screen out one side at a time as there are two sets of "hooks" that hold it in place. You can pull on the suction cup to make this process easier.
5) Now that the top bit is out you need to run the blue tool down the sides of the screen to loosen it up. Then pull on the suction cup and it should separate quite easily.
6) To remove the main PCB you need to remove 3 screws using the T5 screwdriver. There are 6 connectors on the Main PCB, 3 on the top (yellow) and three on the bottom (red). You will also need to remove the copper shielding, you can do so by carefully pulling it off taking care not to deform it as you will need it back it the same place when you reassemble it.
Reassembling it is just a reverse process of the disassembly with the exception of the volume buttons, I've found them quite annoying to hold in place as you push the screen back and had to try multiple times to get it right.
That's all I got up to so far, if I get a weekend off I'll try to go further and do a complete guide, along with replacing the screen. If anyone has any suggestions/improvements please let me know as this was a little rushed.
Notes: You can use a plastic screwdriver if you don't want to buy the blue thingy but it may damage your phone. On my first opening attempt I used a screwdriver and there is slight damage to the top where I inserted it. Second attempt with the blue thingy and there is no additional damage and the screen was much easier to remove.

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This is very informative. Thank you.

Very well done. Thank you for your time. I do hope I will not have to come back to this guide anytime soon .

Many thanks, but can you do a youtube video of this? I tried to do this using exactly the same tools, but i didn't manage to remove the glass unit from the backcover although i used the blue plastic tool in the same way.

When do you have time to look at the screen? I've got all the tools ready, and the replacement screen. Hope to see some guide somewhere soon

Sorry, been real busy as of late. May do it in a month or two. But there are some videos that might help you here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640877

Thanks. My HD2 has a crack running from the battery holding place and all the way where the screen starts. I was gutted but looks easier than thought now , Thanks to these instructions by you if I buy a new back casing cover.

Thank you, Maybe now I can start thinking more seriously about replacing my LED to support more colours
Very nice quality BTW

If I may say well done I have had to take down my hd2 twice for screen replacements and I can't really say I'm proud of it.

My HD2 only has two screws. Is the uk casing different to the US one ?.

fallenmonk said:
My HD2 only has two screws. Is the uk casing different to the US one ?.
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Nope. Someone must have tried to open it

Please help
I have tried to open my HD2, with a screw driver instead of a plastic tool.. it almost popped open, but i could also hear a sound like glue coming loose ..and after i just thought to put the HD2 back together and turn it back on, my touch screen stopped working.. What can i do?
Sorry for posting in a thread that is almost two years old
Kind regards,
GUS4

GUS4 said:
Please help
I have tried to open my HD2, with a screw driver instead of a plastic tool.. it almost popped open, but i could also hear a sound like glue coming loose ..and after i just thought to put the HD2 back together and turn it back on, my touch screen stopped working.. What can i do?
Sorry for posting in a thread that is almost two years old
Kind regards,
GUS4
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You should seriously think to get your touchscreen replaced, most likely you cracked it in your attempt to open your phone.

Hi
I Have tried that but only it opens the middle part of the lcd and i cant reach the back.
what can i do?

Stock HTC case doesn't stop unlocking the screen

OMG, I just found out the stock HTC case doesn't protect the touchscreen from being unlocked by accident. I have the HD2 in my jeans pocket and sometimes when I take it out the phone is swithced on and is unlocked. So I tried unlocking it while still in the case and it's easy to unlock by just pressing through the fake leather. I guess this is a good time to start searching for a nice sturdy case (pouch) with pulling strap in which it's IMPOSSIBLE to unlock your phone by accident.
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No issues at all with the device unlocking in my pockey with the pouch - fits nice and snug

how the hell are you managing to unlock the device when its in the pouch?
that makes no sense at all.
The screen on the HD2 will not respond to anything other then a finger or capacative stylus.
If you know how capacative screens work then what you say is happening is actually impossible.

he means wake up from standby

Well, yeah it does that as it's tight around the buttons - still it won't unlock the device so nothing to worry about!

I put mine in the pouch top first, firstly it leaves the earphone socket free, secondly you don't have to take the case all the way off to use the phone, and thirdly it doesn't press on the buttons so much.

samsamuel said:
I put mine in the pouch top first, firstly it leaves the earphone socket free, secondly you don't have to take the case all the way off to use the phone, and thirdly it doesn't press on the buttons so much.
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Only do that when charging - don't want to get lint in the USB socket!!

EddyOS said:
Only do that when charging - don't want to get lint in the USB socket!!
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hehe yea I thought like that for the first two months too. but now it's "just a phone"

Had mine 4 months now and it's my baby!! lol
I'm sure I'll stop caring eventually but for now I'm trying my best to keep it nice

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hehe yea I thought like that for the first two months too. but now it's "just a phone"
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So how are you going to charge your "phone" if the USB socket is damaged?

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So how are you going to charge your "phone" if the USB socket is damaged?
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lol, you might as well say 'how are you going to see the phone if the screen is damaged!?'
What a silly question, i won't of course, i'll be claiming on insurance.

samsamuel said:
lol, you might as well say 'how are you going to see the phone if the screen is damaged!?'
What a silly question, i won't of course, i'll be claiming on insurance.
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yes it is a silly question that aimed to highlight your seemingly lack of care over your phone after just months. why go through the hassle of insurance when you could just take the advice? my message didnt convey so it doesnt matter now.
so what is the point of this thread again??

Audio Oblivion said:
The screen on the HD2 will not respond to anything other then a finger or capacative stylus.
If you know how capacative screens work then what you say is happening is actually impossible.
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Try it before you start the lecture man. Pushing the power button through the pouch is easily done. Unlocking it wiping your finger over the pouch proved possible. Ofcourse this was only a test, but I've taken the phone out of the pouch and saw it unlocked twice in the 3 weeks I own it so somehow it seems possible the wiping is done by moving around in my pocket while still in the pouch.
The purpose of this thread is warning people the stock pouch doesn't protect a lot. In fact I think it sucks, though it's still better than nothing.
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I did some testing to see if I could unlock the screen without touching it directly:
Phone inside stock pouch: YES
Pouch placed on top of phone (2 layers of pouch between phone and finger): YES
Plactic overhead sheet on top of phone: YES
1 paper sheet (A4) on top of phone: YES
6 paper sheets on top of phone: YES
12 paper sheets on top of phone: YES
24 paper sheets on top of phone: YES
Stack of Post-its on top of phone (approx 15 sheets): YES
Booklet (15 pages, plastic cover, cardboard back): YES
New sealed stack of Post-its on top of phone: NO
Teabag (unused) on top of phone: NO
Aluminum foil & plastic bubblegum bag on top of phone: NO

he's right, after pressing the end button, you can actually unlock it by sliding your finger over the pouch.

maybe my screen is less sensetive than the one you have, i cant unlock my hd2 in the case, and no, i have not enabled bsb decrease sensetivity tweak. maybe thats something you could try?

I tried it too, and it did unlocked through the case. I have never had the issue of it unlocking while in my pocket though.
I am using 1.66 stock rom, with S2U2, and not enabled the BSB Tweak.

I've tested and after using the BsB Decrease Screen Sensitivity option it isn't possible anymore to unlock the screen through the pouch. 4 sheets seems to be no problem though.