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Maybe I'm Retarded, HOW DO I OPEN BATTERY COVER???

I just got this phone and I have read through the manual and looked at the picture of the cover off the phone in the quick start guide. Maybe I am retarded but sliding the phone up like it says in manual isnt doing anything. How can the battery cover for a phone be so hard, I am looking at my sim card and battery next to the phone right now and I'm like putting those 2 in the HTC hermes was no problem at all.
First device I have ever encountered where I couldnt even figure out how to open the battery cover to get the darned thing powered.

The Trinity is hard to open the first time but easier after that. The cover is tighter than other devices I have used. I suggest you cradle the device face down in the palm of one hand with fingertips holding each side and one finger just around the top edge. Then use the thumb of your other hand to push the back cover away from you pushing on the corner of the back cover near the USB connection.

mcq3000 said:
I just got this phone and I have read through the manual and looked at the picture of the cover off the phone in the quick start guide. Maybe I am retarded but sliding the phone up like it says in manual isnt doing anything. How can the battery cover for a phone be so hard, I am looking at my sim card and battery next to the phone right now and I'm like putting those 2 in the HTC hermes was no problem at all.
First device I have ever encountered where I couldnt even figure out how to open the battery cover to get the darned thing powered.
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No you are not retarded just push the cover up, it will be hard for the first time since everything is new but it becomes easier after couple of times.
Hold it in your left hand face down and puuuusssshhhh with the right.

pu pu pu pu pu push it good , ooh baby baby

When I went to the shop to test a Trinity the vendor tried for 20 minutes to open it. Finally I had to do a search on the web on his laptop to find out how to open the phone

haha
i also had some serious difficulties in opening the cover too... i was almost breaking a sweat...

yeah.... I was also cursing Dopod about the user manual that only has an arrow... Thinking they'd stuffed it and the product is just another product from the usual suspect manufacturing countries with poor documentation... Searched online, found nothing, then pushed real hard... Bit of a bastard that.

For anyone else who wants to read through some other (sometimes funny) experiences with the battery cover, look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283976

It was really embarrassing also for me, ... a computer specialist not
able to install the battery on a phone !!! ... It took me about 10 minutes,
several web searches, reading the manual chapter 3 times, trying to
discover some new messages .... until I gave a little bit more energy
trying to open it !
With the phone on the table, screen on the bottom, just move the back cover to the phone top.

Heh, so glad it's not just me..
Had the exact same problem, took me 20 mins. Of course, having spent the buxx on this, last thing I was going to do was force it! Had a bad experience with a $400 piece of electronic gear, within 20 mins of getting it was heading out to use it the first time and a.) fumble dropped it, just as I was walking and my foot was swinging out so b.) basically drop-kicked it down the sidewalk. Got some wonderful scratches all across the faceplate. All in the first 20 mins. Not going to do that again with anything if I can help it!

I find the cover fit a nice change to my previous phone - a Blackberry Pearl... it's cover would fall of by merely looking at it!

snorkel69 said:
I find the cover fit a nice change to my previous phone - a Blackberry Pearl... it's cover would fall of by merely looking at it!
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hahaha i like that one! cover would fall off just by looking at it! maybe you have telekenetic powers you didn't know about.
anyways i too had the same problem. it was obvious to me how to open the cover but god it was really stuck on tight. i spent 10 minutes trying to slide the damn cover and my fingers just kept sliding off the shiny new surface.

I hope this helps. I had problems openning it at first, but got instructions from my saler.
Basically put each hand on each side like you are praying, then slide in different directions. The cover should get off. Hope this helps.

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pu pu pu pu pu push it good , ooh baby baby
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Tytn Camera

Hello you guys. I don't have a macro mode since I bought the phone (to another person). It looks like the phone is always in landscape mode. When I pull that button on the back of the camera (to choose between the modes modes) nothing happens. In addition when i push the button up (landscape mode) it doesn't go till the end of that "mini path"(dont know how to call it ).
Here's a pic of what i mean:
I hope u can help me. I found this problem because my grilfriend bought a hermes too (from VDF UK) and in hers the macro mode actually work's.

Did the previous owner ever disassemble the phone? I think the cameras mode selection lever can function improperly if it isn't in the correct position during reassembly.

dzelaya18 said:
Did the previous owner ever disassemble the phone? I think the cameras mode selection lever can function improperly if it isn't in the correct position during reassembly.
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No he didn't. As a matter of fact HTC did. It had that problem with screen alignment. It is still in warranty but i already CID, unlocked, changed radio & rom So I dont know what to do...

HTC along with other repairers often forget to line up the small arm on the camera with the toggle switch on the back cover (As the above poster says).
If you have no warranty then remove the back cover and line up the camera arm with the switch - and test before putting the screws back in.
It's a fiddly job but not difficult - may take you a few attempts, that's why you should not put screws back in until you have checked it's working.
Here you can see the black lever arm on the right side of the camera. It needs to be lined up with the switch on the back cover. It is often forgotten when re-assembling:
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HTC along with other repairers often forget to line up the small arm on the camera with the toggle switch on the back cover (As the above poster says).
If you have no warranty then remove the back cover and line up the camera arm with the switch - and test before putting the screws back in.
It's a fiddly job but not difficult - may take you a few attempts, that's why you should not put screws back in until you have checked it's working.
Here you can see the black lever arm on the right side of the camera. It needs to be lined up with the switch on the back cover. It is often forgotten when re-assembling:
Mike
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May I break the device by doing that? Or the camera? Im saying because I tried to push it harder up, but nothing happened...

Zero|Cool said:
May I break the device by doing that? Or the camera? Im saying because I tried to push it harder up, but nothing happened...
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Don't force that lever, you could snap the plastic! If the switch is not linked to the lever it will not work.
Taking the back cover off will VOID your warranty. If you do not have a warranty then you can either take it for repair or do it yourself. If you take it for repair just tell them the back has been put on with the switch disengaged from the lever.
If you do it yourself you will need to remove the 4 screws with a Torx 6 screwdriver. Open the case at the bottom end first preferably using a "case opening tool" or a plastic knife. There are small plastic grroves all around and you need to gently prize the case off.
Then the fiddly bit. Try to set the arm of the camera fully up and the switch on the case in the same position. With luck the switch will engage the lever. This may take several attempts before you get them matched up.
Mike

mikechannon said:
Don't force that lever, you could snap the plastic! If the switch is not linked to the lever it will not work.
Taking the back cover off will VOID your warranty. If you do not have a warranty then you can either take it for repair or do it yourself. If you take it for repair just tell them the back has been put on with the switch disengaged from the lever.
If you do it yourself you will need to remove the 4 screws with a Torx 6 screwdriver. Open the case at the bottom end first preferably using a "case opening tool" or a plastic knife. There are small plastic grroves all around and you need to gently prize the case off.
Then the fiddly bit. Try to set the arm of the camera fully up and the switch on the case in the same position. With luck the switch will engage the lever. This may take several attempts before you get them matched up.
Mike
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Thanks for your reply Hum I have CID the phone, unlocked it and everything. Is there a way to set it back to the original state? If yes ill take it to warranty, if not ill do it myslef

[REF] Completely Disassemble the HTC Touch

Sorry about the lack of pictures. I'm an iPhone convert so I don't visit this site anymore so I didn't notice they'd gone. But to all those who didn't realise there was a PDF of the guide, I've re-uploaded the pictures from a new source so they're up again.
I've also received a lot of messages from members asking if I would repair their Elf or change the housing etc, so I just wanted to say that yes I am happy to do this (I'm in the UK), so just drop me a PM if you want.
This is a guide to illustrate how to completely disassemble the HTC Touch, including the digitizer
What you need:
T5 Screwdriver
#2 Screwdriver
Plastic opening tools
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If you want to be on the safe side I’d also recommend using anti static gloves
To start, remove the back cover by pushing it upwards and sliding it off
Remove the battery and stylus
Using the T5 screwdriver remove the 4 screws at each corner of the main chassis

Remove the rear speaker at the top of the main chassis by lifting it off
To remove the front housing, use a plastic tool to get between the front part of the case and the chrome rim. Work it around the edge to release all of the catches
Now you need to disconnect the front housing from the mainboard by using a plastic tool to gently lift the connection from the mainboard

Next, disconnect the vibration part by lifting the red and black wired connection from the mainboard
To remove the mainboard from the chassis, gently pull the USB connection upwards. Once it is just out, pull it clear using the sides – avoid touching it as much as possible

To remove the camera, simply pull it away from the mainboard in the same way as the front housing separates from the mainboard
To take the LCD out, you need to first disconnect it. To do so, first remove the yellow tape that lies over the connection

Next, open the catch holding the ribbon cable in place, and pull it out
You will now be able to pull the LCD out without having the remove the LCD’s metal chassis as the ribbon will pull through the back of it
If you need to remove the LCD’s metal chassis, use the T5 screwdriver to undo the 2 screws beneath it, and it will come off

To remove the digitizer, you need to first disconnect it from the circuitboard behind the keypad by undoing the catch and pulling it out
Although not necessary, I would advise you to remove the circuitboard behind the keypad before the digitizer incase it is damaged during the process
To do this, simply remove the 2 screws holding it in place using the #2 screwdriver

Then pull the board out by levering it up with the plastic tools. This may take some fiddling but it will come out by gently pulling it while sliding it upwards at the same time
The keypad will now easily come out
To continue with removing the digitizer, push it forwards from behind by pushing on the corners. It is stuck in with a type of glue so it may feel as if it won’t come out but it will

The digitizer’s ribbon cable will then slide out of the hole on the front housing
To remove the earpiece speaker from the front housing, simply lever it up using the plastic tool or carefully with a screwdriver

The vibration part from the main chassis easily pulls out
The on/off button, camera button and the SIM and MicroSD card holder door will easily remove from the main chassis by lifting them out
To remove the speaker from the back you simply need to lever it out
This will hopefully help you to replace the housing on your device, or replace faulty parts
Good luck!

WOW! Just simply WOW! Fantastic guide man. And so much clarity by using the blue background and crystal clear pics. This shud be made a sticky. I have never seen such a thorough and clean and clear cut disassembling guide. You are surely the DISASSEMBLER guru.

Very useful if I get a Touch!
By the way, I like the IMEI in picture number 3!
EDIT: actually, 4 and 5 has an even better shot...

yeah so much clarity. this shud be made a sticky. what you say l3v5y?

I've made it sticky for now... If anyone disagrees, PM me!

l3v5y said:
Very useful if I get a Touch!
By the way, I like the IMEI in picture number 3!
EDIT: actually, 4 and 5 has an even better shot...
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Didn't think of that one. Thanks for the heads up
(But there's no IMEI number in picture 3)

oseven said:
Didn't think of that one. Thanks for the heads up
(But there's no IMEI number in picture 3)
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Hence the "EDIT"
I miscounted the first time...

Nice quality of pics
an alternative guide (pics not so good I think) is here:
HTC Touch
Service Manual ( not all in English)
HTC ELF_Touch Service Manual.pdf
Other Guides Service Manuals
www.mikechannon.net
I have added OSeven's brilliantly clear guide to the above site but for ease here is the link:
OSeven's Disassembly Guide - HTC Touch - Elf
Mike

ayyu3m said:
WOW! Just simply WOW! Fantastic guide man. And so much clarity by using the blue background and crystal clear pics. This shud be made a sticky. I have never seen such a thorough and clean and clear cut disassembling guide. You are surely the DISASSEMBLER guru.
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I just remember how little information there was when I originally wanted to change my housing so it stopped me doing it until I broke my first Touch and had nothing to lose. I found one guide but it only showed as far as removing the front case...not the digitizer or anything else. But hopefully this will give newbies the confidence to try it because it's really not difficult

mikechannon said:
So erm... can I PDF it? The pics alone make it a good 'un. Full credit of course,then I can add it to the collection. There again you could do it, might take me a good while with all those pics and comments.
What dya say? - buy you a pint!
Mike
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I think guides like this can only add to things!
I'm bored ATM so I'll turn it into a PDF if no one else can be bothered!

mikechannon said:
So erm... can I PDF it? The pics alone make it a good 'un. Full credit of course,then I can add it to the collection. There again you could do it, might take me a good while with all those pics and comments.
What dya say? - buy you a pint!
Mike
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Go for it
I'm just finishing off something else atm but I'd be happy to do it in a bit, unless l3v5y beats me to it

Done!
Took longer than it might have as I can't code and make pdfs at the same time!

HTC Incredible Droid Screen Repair Take Apart Guide

Does the outer touch screen of your HTC Incredible Droid have been cracked or damaged? Is the inner display LCD not functioning properly or become damaged? Or are you just curious of the disassembly process on the HTC Incredible Droid? In this guide, you will learn the steps to properly take your Droid smartphone apart safely.
This guide will help you to install the following HTC Droid Incredible part(s):
HTC Droid Incredible Glass Touch Screen Digitizer Replacement
HTC Droid Incredible LCD Screen Replacement Display
Other Internal Replacement Parts, Flex Cables, Speakers, Housing, & More
Tools Required:
Safe Open Pry Tool
Small Phillips Screwdriver
T6 Torx Screwdriver
HTC Incredible Droid LCD and Touch Screen Glass Digitizer Screen Repair Take Apart Guide:
To begin taking apart your HTC Incredible Droid, you will need to first remove the backing and the battery. If you have any problems separating the two, you can use your open safe pry tool for assistance.
Next, there will be four screws that need to be removed—one at each corner. Remove them using your small Phillips head screwdriver as shown in figure 1.
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There are clips between the glass and the backing that will need to be pried and released as you go. Using your open safe pry tool, you will gently release these clips. You may need to work the open safe pry tool gently back and forth to separate the two.
Once you have released the clips, you should be able to easily raise the back cover of the phone. Set this aside along with your screws.
Next you will need to remove the track pad from the bottom of the phone. To do this, use your open safe pry tool to release the jaw connector, as shown in figure 2. Then you can remove the track pad.
Figure 2​
You will now need to release three more jaw connectors to be able to release the ribbon cable. There are two on the sides, appearing as small pieces of flexible metal, and one on the bottom. Release these gently using your open safe pry tool, and then you can disconnect the ribbon cable beneath.
Once the ribbon cable has been released, you can remove the two small screws that are holding the mother board in place using your Phillips screwdriver. These two screws are diagonal from each other, with one at the bottom left, and the other on the top right.
Now that you have removed the two screws, you will be able to gently remove the mother board using your fingers, as shown in figure 3.
Figure 3​
Now you can begin to remove the LCD screen from the frame by removing the two small screws located at the top.
Once you have removed these screws, you can remove the LCD screen by using your open safe pry tool to gently separate the frame from the screen, as pictured in figure 4.
Figure 4​
Once you have pried the LCD screen apart from the touch screen, you can easily replace the screen with your new one by reversing all the steps to achieve a phone that is like new again.
The HTC Droid Incredible is now disassembled and you can replace the damaged part(s) with new ones. Reverse the instructions above to reassemble your phone.

We now also have a downloadable version of this guide in PDF format which can be downloaded here - HTC Droid Incredible Repair Guide

Thank you! Now I can save my Inc! :good:

JoseGamaliel said:
Thank you! Now I can save my Inc! :good:
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No problem. Glad we could help!

I'll add that if your replacement LCD does not fit "perfectly" don't force it. I have personally experienced DINCs LCD vendors misrepresenting the model of the screen which only served to cause a big headache.

I had actually followed this guide and got stuck while removing the LCD. The LCD was completely glued to screen digitizer and while applying a little force to remove the LCD, it cracked and stopped working. So be very careful when removing the LCD.
I have one more question though. My camera glass is cracked. It does not affect my ability to take images or shoot videos, however is really annoying when someone notices it. While opening my phone, I saw that the camera is actually assembled on the motherboard using some kind of a mechanism. Can you guide me how to replace the camera piece?
Thanks for your help

followed this guide and it worked perfectly

Do I need adhesive strips for replacing the earpiece speaker?

Thanks for such a nice hands-on guide.

Neel737 said:
Thanks for such a nice hands-on guide.
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No problem. Thanks for the kind words!

Motorola Atrix 4G Screen Take Apart Repair Guide

This guide is in a step by step format and can easily be followed for a quick and safe repair for Motorola Atrix 4G. This guide will go through the steps of disassembling and replacing the touch screen digitizer as well as the LCD screen.
This guide will help you to install the following Motorola Atrix part(s):
Motorola Atrix Glass Touch Screen Digitizer
Motorola Atrix LCD Screen
Tools Required:
Adhesive Strips
T5 Torx Screwdriver
Hot Air Gun / Hair Dryer (optional)
Motorola Atrix 4G take apart guide:
The first step to disassembling the phone is to remove the back battery cover and battery as well as the sim card and memory card. You can now remove the seven torx T5 screws located behind the battery cover. With the screws removed you can now use a safe open pry tool to release the clips and flip the back housing over to the side, careful of the antenna cable still attached.
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Use a safe open pry tool to pop the antenna cable from the motherboard and remove the back housing. Pry the motherboard up using a safe open pry tool and release the 3 flex cables underneath. Two will be pop connectors and the third is a jaw/alligator connector. Once reassessed you can now safely remove the motherboard.
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Warm the front of the touch screen and LCD screen using a heat gun or hair dryer. Use a pry tool to slowly pry between the touch screen and rest of the phone, careful as it is still attached with a flex cable. Flip the phone over and release the pop connector and top cover.
Ease up the flex ribbon cable and also the earpiece speaker. You can also remove the black plastic and the black plastic bar.
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You can now feed the touch screen flex cable through the housing and replace the digitizer.
Simply replace the damaged parts with the new ones and reverse the order to put your phone back together again.

Thanks for posting that. I've already replaced mine but this is as good a guide as the video that I watched. It's as easy to do as it reads. I used some locking forceps to install the third ribbon cable into the jaw connector.
Nice of you to post this guide. Not to mention, I think that it's a really classy way to respond to something said elsewhere without actually calling it out. Nice form on all counts.

Will this fix the general touch screen problem , most of the Atrix devices have.
ie.Not being able to select the first item in the men , etc

devgayan said:
Will this fix the general touch screen problem , most of the Atrix devices have.
ie.Not being able to select the first item in the men , etc
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Yes, replacing the touch screen would fix these kind of issues.

Soft buttons
What about the lower soft buttons not working, would the replacement of this digitizer solve that issue too?

Great post! Thanks for the information.

Getch78 said:
Great post! Thanks for the information.
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Thanks. Glad you found it useful.

I bought two screen from Amazon, non of them are fully functional......

repairuniverse, could you shed some light on the "soft buttons" issue please? Mine just stopped working and I'm thinking to replace it myself...
Thanks in advance.

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repairuniverse, could you shed some light on the "soft buttons" issue please? Mine just stopped working and I'm thinking to replace it myself...
Thanks in advance.
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The "soft" buttons you refer to are part of the touch screen digitizer. Replacing this part should fix your issue.

Just replaced my digitizer...was a pain in the ass but it worked. Still need to get some tape for the screen though...really hard to put on when you can't really move the screen.

Sorry to hear you had a bit of trouble. The repair is normally pretty straight forward. Glad you got it working though.
What do you mean when you are referring to "Still needing tape" ?

Any videos on this?
PS: scratch that...
check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxuF_73YIIY

repairsuniverse said:
Sorry to hear you had a bit of trouble. The repair is normally pretty straight forward. Glad you got it working though.
What do you mean when you are referring to "Still needing tape" ?
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I didn't use any tape under the screen because I didn't have any good one. I ordered some double sided tape on eBay.
Will have to take it all apart again and restart by putting the tape first, then the digitizer cable through the hole, then the LCD, and finally the digitizer...that's why its a pain.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA

What kind of tape is needed, if any? I see a screen replacement in my near future and want to make sure I have everything before I start.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA

nsaia said:
What kind of tape is needed, if any? I see a screen replacement in my near future and want to make sure I have everything before I start.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA
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2 mm double sided
Sent from my MB860 using XDA

We provide adhesive tape used for these repairs on our site. Great question!

I'm having an issue with my proximity sensor. It doesn't seem to respond all the time and its on the "block state"...so when I place a call the phone goes black. If I press on the top of the phone near the sensor, it starts working for a couple minutes, and then goes black again.
Any ideas? Did I block something (don't think so)? Bad connection somewhere?

Nice guide. I was just looking to clean my front facing camera, so this will work great for that

Zero-K said:
Nice guide. I was just looking to clean my front facing camera, so this will work great for that
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Glad we could help!