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Hello all Ive just ordered my universal on Orange, for delivery tomorrow, they are giving it to me for free on upgrade.
So now because I often use over my monthly minute allowance and having a few friends around the world I would like to use a VOIP service.
The only one I know of is Skype, as I am fairly new to this type of thing. So can anyone recommed a service that is cheap, easy to use, Universal compatible.
As for call costs I would like a service that is fairly cheap to call both landlines and mobiles. The mobiles would only really be in the UK, if that matters.
Any help is really appreciated. Many Thanks
Hi,
I expect you've seen my post elsewhere asking about voip clients for the Universal. I've lived and breathed voip for the last three months at work so I know something about it...there seems to be three basic kinds of voip services:
1) wholly proprietory services - closed source client and protocols. Skype is the perfect example. Will let 'real' phone users dial you (they call that 'Skype in') on a real phone number, and will let you call 'real' phones (they call that 'Skype out') for a fee. For Skype, there's a client for the Universal (I think, I don't own one yet). Other services - you're probably out of luck.
2) semi-proprietory services - perhaps providing their own client software, but built on open protocols (usually SIP, session initiation protocol), so you get an enhanced experience with their client. Often the client is locked to only talk to their servers. Examples would be Gizmo or Wengo. Could be an option for a Universal user if you find one that works with other clients than their own, AND if there's a generic SIP client that works on WM5 - and according to my thread, Xten's PPC client works ok.
3) standards-based services - client-agnostic, built on open-protocols (again usually SIP). They give you a username and server details, you enter them into your client - be it a PC-based softphone, a pocketpc application, or a piece of hardware such as an ATA (analogue telephone adaptor - let's you plug a physical phone, even a cordless one, into your home network and use it to make VOIP calls).
There's a fair few voip services like this nowadays, either companies who 'only' do that, or voip services as addons to a traditional ISP service - that's the case with my company, PlusNet, which offers a voip service to our broadband customers. You get sip to sip calls free, a free 0845 number to receive calls on, and you can choose from three different ways to pay for outbound calls - either PAYG (buy credit in £5 blocks, use it up as you make calls) or subscription ('Anytime' or 'Evenings and Weekends' - pay a monthly subscription and get a block of minutes to use peak or off-peak respectively). Sorry to sound like I'm advertising, it's just corporate pride - have a look at http://www.plus.net/plustalk to see more.
Hope this is a useful primer for you!
cheers
Matt S
(firmly OFF-DUTY PlusNet employee ;-)
that was discussed today - here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31799&highlight=
see my answer:
i am using X-Pro Softphone for Pocket PC on my MDA pro (t-mobile universal version), it works perfectly with my german voip-account. you can use four different voip-accounts in this tool! currently i am using the version 3 pro. the only mismatch you will have (as with skype too): it only uses the external speaker instead of the phone speaker. but if you use your headset (you should anyway because of the weight of the universal;-)) it works the way it should!
details are here: http://www.xten.com
any questions left? feel free to ask!
cheers, lutz
Where did you manage to get version 3? - On the website you mentioned below I can only find 2.2 to buy for around 30 USD...
lutzh said:
that was discussed today - here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31799&highlight=
see my answer:
i am using X-Pro Softphone for Pocket PC on my MDA pro (t-mobile universal version), it works perfectly with my german voip-account. you can use four different voip-accounts in this tool! currently i am using the version 3 pro. the only mismatch you will have (as with skype too): it only uses the external speaker instead of the phone speaker. but if you use your headset (you should anyway because of the weight of the universal;-)) it works the way it should!
details are here: http://www.xten.com
any questions left? feel free to ask!
cheers, lutz
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what if you use a BT headset like the JABRA? will the sound be routed to the the BT headset or to the external speaker?
matzie said:
Hi,
I expect you've seen my post elsewhere asking about voip clients for the Universal. I've lived and breathed voip for the last three months at work so I know something about it...there seems to be three basic kinds of voip services:
1) wholly proprietory services - closed source client and protocols. Skype is the perfect example. Will let 'real' phone users dial you (they call that 'Skype in') on a real phone number, and will let you call 'real' phones (they call that 'Skype out') for a fee. For Skype, there's a client for the Universal (I think, I don't own one yet). Other services - you're probably out of luck.
2) semi-proprietory services - perhaps providing their own client software, but built on open protocols (usually SIP, session initiation protocol), so you get an enhanced experience with their client. Often the client is locked to only talk to their servers. Examples would be Gizmo or Wengo. Could be an option for a Universal user if you find one that works with other clients than their own, AND if there's a generic SIP client that works on WM5 - and according to my thread, Xten's PPC client works ok.
3) standards-based services - client-agnostic, built on open-protocols (again usually SIP). They give you a username and server details, you enter them into your client - be it a PC-based softphone, a pocketpc application, or a piece of hardware such as an ATA (analogue telephone adaptor - let's you plug a physical phone, even a cordless one, into your home network and use it to make VOIP calls).
There's a fair few voip services like this nowadays, either companies who 'only' do that, or voip services as addons to a traditional ISP service - that's the case with my company, PlusNet, which offers a voip service to our broadband customers. You get sip to sip calls free, a free 0845 number to receive calls on, and you can choose from three different ways to pay for outbound calls - either PAYG (buy credit in £5 blocks, use it up as you make calls) or subscription ('Anytime' or 'Evenings and Weekends' - pay a monthly subscription and get a block of minutes to use peak or off-peak respectively). Sorry to sound like I'm advertising, it's just corporate pride - have a look at http://www.plus.net/plustalk to see more.
Hope this is a useful primer for you!
cheers
Matt S
(firmly OFF-DUTY PlusNet employee ;-)
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I use plusnet and love it and use the voip sevice to call landlines (free) from my laptop but I would love to know how to use my vario to do it. I presume I would do it via wifi through the broadband but dont know how. Please tell me if you can - thanks. I do have unlimited gprs but I would assume that I couldnt use plusnet this way as it is not broadband etc.
I'm using SJPhone!
It's for free
http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html
Hi,
Anyone knows any free VOIP softphone for O2 Exec which allows to configure to use third-party SIP providers (e.g. sipdiscount, sipgate etc.) ?
Thanks!
SV
use skype
Sorry, I meant to configure with SIP protocol.
sjphone, works fine
With SJPhone, at the moment, when calling, you have to use loud speakers or headset not the phone speaker. Is it right?
Thanks!
That happens with any phone edition device.. Apps don't have access to the other speakers...
Re Sip
I have tried many. However most free products are generic to a provider,
Successful products are:
Xten lite from xten Networks
SJ Phone this is the best and is easily configured to multiple profiles.
It intergrates nicely with our office Sip server too,
Regards
DW
Re Sip
I have tried many. However most free products are generic to a provider,
Successful products are:
Xten lite from xten Networks
SJ Phone this is the best and is easily configured to multiple profiles.
It intergrates nicely with our office Sip server too,
Regards
DW
svkhtn said:
Sorry, I meant to configure with SIP protocol.
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May I know what is SIP protocol?
Is it different with Skype protocol? Is SIP protocol is a standard one?
Thx.
Regards,
Arto.
Artosoft said:
May I know what is SIP protocol?
Is it different with Skype protocol? Is SIP protocol is a standard one?
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SIP is a standard - most VOIP application and hardware uses it.
I meen: SIP RFC 3261
Skype is a own protocol and only skype clients can connect each other using skype soft phone or by skype gateway.
I guess that the source is not public.
I use AGEphone.
http://www.ageet.com/us/
It is not Free.
But, maybe best.
Files are light, but works very well.
the sound is very clear.
We can use SIPdiscount, VoipBuster, VoipStunt, StanaPhone, SIPphone, Free World DialUp, Agilephone, etc all at the same time.
I installed SJPhone and could get connected. I could dial my cell phone number and it will ring my cell phone.
But there is no sound whatsoever in my Universal/JJ.
Can anybody help me? Did I miss something? I tried to plug in my headset but no luck as well.
Thanks.
Also, may I know which version of SJPhone you guys use?
Can you send the link for the download? I can only find the one for 2003SE and 2003, nothing for WM5.
Since I didn't see a follow-up post by anyone, I'd like to say that the SJPhone for Windows 2003 SE works with the universal *only in portrait mode*.
Has anyone [other than shamilsh] tried the ageet soft phone suggested in this thread?
Does Skype work over GPRS or just 3G?
Regards.
Just for text messages, skype is ok with GRPS - but for voice you need 3G oder WLAN.
Hi
Any sip cliente for wm5 that have G.729 (8 kbps) or G.723 (5.3 & 6.3 kbps codecs ?
sj phone only 711 or their own gsm....
Owl said:
Just for text messages, skype is ok with GRPS - but for voice you need 3G oder WLAN.
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Is that need 3G as in would be slow, or need as in can't do it...
Just that GPRS is free for the T-Mobile plan I'm using, but think I have to pay for 3G (Relax + Web & Walk thing)
are there any programs that allow routing of the sound to phone speakers instead of main speakers?
Guys....just use sj phone with sip service from voipbuster.com and forget the rest.... and now you are talking....FREE and with free local rate call back number also...now...that ROCKS :twisted:
BR
Hey all,
I was trying to find some information on Sip protocol in the US. I have been playing around with the WM6 Roms and would like to try the internet calling feature. For the people in the US:
- what provider do you use?
- Is it a plan (like Vonage) or per call? I know I there is a french company Wengo.
Thanks in advance.
Try voipdiscount.
Gilko
Why - did you manage to get voipdiscount working with your trinity WM6?
What ROM - what wettings - tell tell!
VOIP in USA
Hi guys.
I´ve doing VOIP on pda´s for 2 years and this is what I´ve been using:
SJphone and credits from Voipcheap,voipbuster,Voipstunt,(I pay $12 or $13 every 3 months for unlimited calls to regular phones)this software is pretty easy to use and it has a nice phonebook.I´m attaching the software and the profile for Voipcheap which is the cheapest way for me to call my family in Spain and friends in Europe,there are many free destinations,if you go to those websites and compare the prices.
I believe there´s also a good deal with Skype and Voipcheap(you pay a fee and get unlimited phonecalls for a year)like I said go there and compare.
I know it would be nice if you can set up your phone and WM6 for VOIP with the software that comes with it.
The first file is the profile that you should copy and paste in the profile folder of the SJphone app once it´s installed.
I hope I could help you.If you need some help just let me know.
See ya.
HTC P3600 Black
-Opera.
-Sk Tools.
-SJ Phone.
-Tweaks2k2.NET.
-Skype.
-Resco Pocket Radio 1FM.com.
-WIFIFOFum.
-PocketRAR.
Thanks DTA1974. I am interested in seeing how this funtions on WM6.
Amazing little device the trinity is.
VOIP in US and Around the World
I agree with you, the VOIPCHEAP or VOIPBuster, or VOIPSTUNT is great, but you dont get a phone number...but here is the trick. Setup an account on one of these services and you dont have to pay anything to make US Calls mobile or landline. When you setup this account make sure your username is not so many characters (keep it within 8 characters) Then...Go to www.IPKALL.com and get a WAshington State number ..its free and when you get to the account, use the following:
SIP Number: Use your Account Sign In for VOIPBuster or whatever...(the 8 or less charater one)
SIP Address: sip.voipbuster.com or sip.voipcheap.com or sip.voipstunt.com (whichever you signed up for)
Email: Use your email address
Password: setup a 4 character password for logging into changing these settings... You will recieve an email with your new Number
Wait 60 min and then that number will be forwarded to your new SIP account!!! also if you wanna setup voipbuster on your Phone, just use config tool and use the same settings as above:
SIP Number: Use your Account Sign In for VOIPBuster or whatever...(the 8 or less charater one)
SIP Address: sip.voipbuster.com or sip.voipcheap.com or sip.voipstunt.com (whichever you signed up for)
It will work. I been using it for a long time.
I really want to use the integrated WM6 VoIP software. this way when I'm at home, the phone connectes to my Wifi and automatically the calls go throught VoIP. I know my settings are OK - as I managed to make one successful call. The rest of the time something is stopping sound coming to the speaker. I can be heard but cannot hear - completely dead. Strange thing - whenever I make a call, there is a long beep. There is SOMETHING cutting off the redirection of VoIP sound to my phone - perhaps the file from HTC which sets up the network settings for my phone network in France. Any ideas on how to solve this welcome. apart from that I have SJphone working, too, but not what I wanted. Thanks dta1974.
VOIP 4 FREE means FREE 0.00 <--<
Never ever ever pay. free means free. I have played around with voipbuster and and voipstunt both are stupid they let you call for free for awhile then cut you off and make you pay. The ipkall gives you a free inbound phone number for FREE all the time, if you sign up for another account on voipbuster then switch users on ipkall it starts working again both was in and out. all we need is one of you good script/program writters to write us a program that goes out and signs us up using another user account every day and also logs us into ipkall and updates the info to match the new user name and we will get everything for free all the time, that is until the bastards find out what we are doing. It will work so please write me one because until then I will have to manually create a new user each day. Oh unless someone knows of a FREE and I mean FREE SIP provider!!!
VoIP is banned in Dubai for a long time. How do you manage it?
Anyone knows VoiceGuard Anti blockage. It's said that it help VoIP providers bypass ISP blockage. And we can use VoIP freely.
VGSPE/VGBC/VGSC/VGCommunicator/VGSDK
Lynn
Email: [email protected]
off topic but why do they ban voip in Dubai?
Yes, you are correct. VOIP is banned in Dubai. But still people use it, Answer of “How?” can be better explained by VOIP service providers. I would not raise my finger on anybody, but it may be the plan of authorities to save interest of existing telecom companies.
fuLLah said:
off topic but why do they ban voip in Dubai?
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It's kind of a licensing thing if I recall correctly.
Hi Guys,
Looking for some VOIP/SIP clients for HD2, anything other than PortSIP, Fring or AGEMobile would be preferable!
Going overseas tomorrow and my PortSIP stopped working and wont start working again so trying to find a program that's just as good AND easy to setup as PortSIP (Agemobile confused the hell out of me)
thanks,
Zhuk86
+1 I am in a similar boat. Looking for a stable VoIP solution to work on my HD2.
Ideally, I would love tight integration with the standard WinMo dialer.
+1. Same here!
sip client for hd2
need also a stable sip sofrware for hd2 +1
thnks for help
I tried PortSIP recently on my phoneset, and it works fine. However, as in my grief with all these SIP clients products, I fancy very tight SIP integration with existing Phone Dialer, with the option of editing Dial Plans to define outgoing call rules (was it IPDialPlan.xml ?). I heard this is how it used to be with WM5, but somehow operators have scrapped it out of ROMs in WM6.5.
Ideally, I should just dial my telephone numbers from phone, and based on the dial plan, the phone should direct calls either on SIP or Mobile Network. Am I asking for too much here?
[Loud Thinking]
I am going to bring my trusty old O2 XDA Exec out and put WM5 back on it, and then see if the SIP client can be (easily) configured on it.
bym007 said:
I tried PortSIP recently on my phoneset, and it works fine. However, as in my grief with all these SIP clients products, I fancy very tight SIP integration with existing Phone Dialer, with the option of editing Dial Plans to define outgoing call rules (was it IPDialPlan.xml ?). I heard this is how it used to be with WM5, but somehow operators have scrapped it out of ROMs in WM6.5.
Ideally, I should just dial my telephone numbers from phone, and based on the dial plan, the phone should direct calls either on SIP or Mobile Network. Am I asking for too much here?
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+1 for me too!
Check my signature for an alternative voip client