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Hi,
This is my first post, so I just wanted to say that I really appreciate all the support you guys have offered here, this place is probably the most informative source for working on these blasted devices.
I had a question about TAPI, cprog.exe and a couple of applications that are floating around out there. I have noticed a couple applications that appear to "call filter" calls. I was wondering what the basics is for this to work? The applications appear to be independent of cprog.exe but yet claim to control its behavior. The only TAPI call I can find that seems to be relevant is lineSetCallBarringState() but I'm not convinced that would do it... any ideas?
Thank you very much for your time.
-Jake
I think you probably want lineDrop (or lineRedirect?). You can call lineDrop in the lineCallBackFunc, after you receive lineOffering message.
check out the CeDialer sample, or here's a recent thread about getting caller id.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303050
After you get the ID you can drop the call if you don't like it
AT&T claims that Verizon 3G doesn't permit web data searches at the same time that a voice phone connection is going on. Is that true? Why? How inconvenient is this? Is there any problem multitasking data activities, e.g., downloading email while downloading a web page?
short answer is yes
Verizon and AT&T use different technologies. Verizon CDMA. AT&T uses GSM. CDMA doesn't allow voice and data simultaneously. However, it is really a non issue as most people don't surf the web and talk on the phone at the same time. It's really not that intuitive to do. But, multitasking in general is reliant on the phone's operating system. Winmo allows for multi tasking and HTC helps it be even more managable with their task master tool and the addition of allowing the "X" to either close programs or minimize them.
Basically, AT&T is just mad about VZW's "there's a map for that" commercials and because their lawsuit was thrown out. What AT&T doesn't tell you is that their most popular phone, the iphone, doesn't allow multi tasking of any kind and that is by apple's design.
edit: To answer you about data: you can email and surf the web with no problem as they both use data connection.
I wonder if you use both the CDMA and GSM radios can you talk and surf at the same time?
Verizon is CDMA only, and ATT is GSM only. You can turn on GSM and CDMA at the same time, but only one will be used depending on the network.
Hmmm, does this mean that I need to hang up the call if I need to do a Google search? Say someone calls me and wants to meet me at a specific bar... do I need to hang up do a Google search for the bar location and call them back to tell them that I now know how to get there?... With my AT&T phone I do this without having to hang up the call. I also reference Yelp based on My GPS Location frequently as I talk to friends via speaker phone about restaurants or bars near by. I guess this requires two way data and GPS location to work simultaneously... Can the Imagio do this?
my .02 is if you are on the phone with a friend or business associate and they invite you somewhere that you dont know the location of, ask them. i would be pretty offended if on a personal or business call the other person was tapping away at their phone browsing the web. i get my texts during calls thats enough for me. and like it was said, their most popular phone, the iphone cant even multi-task.
davidstre said:
my .02 is if you are on the phone with a friend or business associate and they invite you somewhere that you dont know the location of, ask them. i would be pretty offended if on a personal or business call the other person was tapping away at their phone browsing the web. i get my texts during calls thats enough for me. and like it was said, their most popular phone, the iphone cant even multi-task.
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So, if you call someone to ask them for a phone number that's stored in their phone... you'd would rather have them hang up and call you back because you'd be "offended" by the tapping as they search for the phone number you asked for? I get a few calls a week from people asking me for phone numbers... I open my contacts list, find the number and give to them... without hanging up... so far, no one has been offended. When I do a Google search while talking, as a matter of courtesy, I let the person on the other end know what I'm doing. Btw, I don't own an iPhone.
If I make a phone call to ask specifically for information that is traditionally and typically stored in a phone, I obviously wouldnt be offended. The example regarded a very specific situation: pointless internet searches (ie: googling an address instead of asking the person who you are currently on the phone with that invited you) its simply poor conversation skills to say "hang on im going to use the internet while i keep you on the phone" instead of "wheres joes bar again?"
I hardly ever talk on my phone and I don't think I've ever even thought of using my data connection while on the phone.
Seems kinda stupid to me anywho
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So, if you call someone to ask them for a phone number that's stored in their phone... you'd would rather have them hang up and call you back because you'd be "offended" by the tapping as they search for the phone number you asked for? I get a few calls a week from people asking me for phone numbers... I open my contacts list, find the number and give to them... without hanging up... so far, no one has been offended. When I do a Google search while talking, as a matter of courtesy, I let the person on the other end know what I'm doing. Btw, I don't own an iPhone.
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You neglected to add that in A LOT of cities your phone can't even get a signal to talk or go on the web to help anyone find something.
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You neglected to add that in A LOT of cities your phone can't even get a signal to talk or go on the web to help anyone find something.
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Let's no compare apples to oranges... I know and understand the shortcomings of the AT&T's network signal and the inability of some so-called Smartphones that do not multitask... For me a Smartphone is a device that allows me accomplish several tasks. Having the ability to perform some of these tasks simultaneously (assuming voice/data signal availability) is what I'm talking about. If I'm talking on the phone and the person on the other end wants a picture or a document that I have stored on my phone... I like the convenience of being able to send it without having to hang up. It's not a show-stopper for me, but it's a nice feature to have.
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If I make a phone call to ask specifically for information that is traditionally and typically stored in a phone, I obviously wouldnt be offended. The example regarded a very specific situation: pointless internet searches (ie: googling an address instead of asking the person who you are currently on the phone with that invited you) its simply poor conversation skills to say "hang on im going to use the internet while i keep you on the phone" instead of "wheres joes bar again?"
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I do not assume that what anyone else wants to do with their phone is "pointless". I use my phone features in certain ways and you can use yours as you please. Some devices are a better fit for you and others for me. As I look for a replacement for my AT&T phone and want to find out the +/- of the devices that appeal to me.... I ask questions about their features.
Poor conversation skills? You are assuming quite a bit about the specific situation I mentioned... The person that called me did not know how to get to the bar... I Goggled it and found the directions from the location where he originated the call. I helped him get to where we were going to meet... Poor communications skills?... Doubt it... I did it all without having to interrupt the conversation.
Totally legit scenario tamanaco, and I'm with you. I just did a quick test calling my desk phone. I was able to multitask on my Imagio while connected (e.g. was able to navigate to contacts to look up a phone #, launch apps, etc.). BUT I was not able to use a data connection. I was able to launch the Opera browser, but was not able to navigate to any web page successfully. So forget looking up directions online while talking.
FWIW, I haven't run across this issue in the real world, but none-the-less it bums me out a little that I can't do voice & data at the same time.
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So, if you call someone to ask them for a phone number that's stored in their phone... you'd would rather have them hang up and call you back ...
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You _can_ launch any other application, including looking up phone numbers in your contact list, while on the Imagio.
One cute feature is that if you pull out the stylus while on the phone, it automatically launches the notepad app, with the person's name, number and time of call filled in. Then you can write notes either with the stylus or type them in. Pretty handy, especially if you're in a field that needs diagrams. You can also add a recording.
You just can't search on the internet for those numbers while talking. Well, unless you're using a VoIP app like Skype. Then you can do both voice and data simultaneously even on Verizon. I've done it.
I shut my service off yesterday as I will be in Japan for a few months and the international roaming is crazy! Any options to make it work with Google voice only over Wifi? I tried calling and it says no service available.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
Have you tried to download and use the skype app over wifi? It may cost you a little to call but would be better than the roaming fees.
jmd1981 said:
I shut my service off yesterday as I will be in Japan for a few months and the international roaming is crazy! Any options to make it work with Google voice only over Wifi? I tried calling and it says no service available.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
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Google Voice on Android does not currently support VOIP from the handset to the server. That feature is only available through the Gmail desktop browser page on an operating system that is supported by the Gtalk voice and video chat plugin. Another way to get end-to-end VOIP with Google Voice is using Gizmo5, if you had signed up for that service before Google bought it out. That only lets you do incoming calls though.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
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If you have a temp visa or better yet a coworker or friend there you could probably get month-to-month service there. That would be the best bet, but it's generally one of the more difficult countries for visitors to get a sim card in. The airport might have some rental services, but iirc they rented you the whole phone (by the day no less) and it's fairly expensive compared to regular service.
Also it goes without saying that if you want to use a Softbank sim you will need to subsidy unlock (also known as sim unlock) the phone.
Edit: it is rumored that the WiFi calling feature that T-mo is bringing to the G2 and other Android devices will allow a connection and minutes usage internationally. Personally I think this is unlikely (for a few reasons, some of which are legal/regulatory) but it would be pretty nice. Of course this would seriously short circuit the way GV for Android works. You would not be able to make outbound calls with GV in the caller ID.
If you need an unlock code for that phone. to use a japan sim. Let me know via PM
You could always install skype and set your outgoing caller id to your google voice number. Then sign up for a number at sipgate.com and add your new number to google voice. Once that's activated, download and install Fring or sipdroid and add your sipgate information. Use skype to making outgoing, take incoming calls with fring or sipdroid. Alternatively, if you don't want to pay for unlimited skype-out, you can try one of the many google voice dialer apps out there. They basically initiate calls using the google voice web interface, which you can actually do via your browser if none of the apps work out.
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Or just buy a skype number and unlimited skype out then setup skype caller id and forward your GV calls to your skype #
I'm not sure if any devs will see this here, so I will probably post in the G1 dev forum or the general android forum as well, but I wanted to do a search first and this is the only similar thread I have found. Anyway...
As some of you know, you can now place FREE calls to anywhere in the US or Canada using GMail and the "voice and video chat plugin". You can also receive calls from within GMail if you have a GoogleVoice account and you set it up to forward GoogleVoice calls to "Google Chat" as well as your phone(s).
This is awesome! I can now answer calls from GMail instead of my phone. I wish the desktop GoogleTalk app did that so I wouldn't have to always keep a webbrowser page open to GMail, but that is not what this post is about...
I got to thinking: if GMail can place and receive free phone calls, why can't I do that on my phone (or any device with internet)? I downloaded every available webbrowser for Android and tried to surf to GMail, but none of them even loaded the page (???), much less the plugin.
While searching for any possible solution, I learned that the required "voice and video chat plugin" is available for Linux. This fact makes me almost positive that it is somehow possible for someone to develop an Android app that loads that plugin, logs in to GMail (spoofing a desktop browser), and displays the Pop-out dial pad capable of placing and receiving free calls!
Is anyone up to the challenge? This is huge people! FREE phone where ever there is internet. I hope someone can make this happen.
There is a way of doing this... you ARE talking about calling and using your 3g/4g network, right?
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Um... ok, what is the way of doing it?
I am talking about using the Google "voice and video chat plugin" along with the dialer in GMail to make/receive free calls anywhere with internet (WiFi/3G/4G, without using minutes) just like you can already do if you have a Windows/Mac/Linux webbrowser, but through an Android device.
Don't you have WiFi Calling?
AndroidBoston said:
Don't you have WiFi Calling?
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Do you not realize the WiFi calling app still relies on the TMO network?
rpmccormick said:
Um... ok, what is the way of doing it?
I am talking about using the Google "voice and video chat plugin" along with the dialer in GMail to make/receive free calls anywhere with internet (WiFi/3G/4G, without using minutes) just like you can already do if you have a Windows/Mac/Linux webbrowser, but through an Android device.
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No, there is no equivalent of the gmail chat plugin. You're limited to using a sip client and forwarding your GV to that number
I'm pretty sure you can't even roam in Japan anymore. Unless this phone has the UMTS frequencies for 1900, you wont get anything. Recently, Softbank shut off GSM/2G service.
I was playing with my phone while in call and noticed that the enhanced voice privacy check box was unchecked. Then I got off the phone and checked it again and it was checked it again and it was checked. So to make sure it got unchecked while in call I ensured it was checked called my phone and it was unchecked. Then after I hung up it was checked again. So I was wondering what exactly is the point of that setting if it really doesn't do anything while on a voice call.
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I was doing a Google search to find out what this feature actually does, and came upon this thread. I would simply like to comment that I believe you got no responses because your question was insanely convoluted. I barely followed only because I jumped to the end. However, the title of this thread is good enough to start a legit conversation about the feature if anyone is interested.
Do you think it lowers call quality? I could be way off but some things I was reading about encryption suggests to this layman that this could be the case.
Let me see if I follow this. You're trying to say that the box unchecks itself when you make a call? Did you post a bug report at the cm website?
Could it be that Sprint doesn't support encryption?
Hi
I don't have tmobile network at my work location
So before I enter into office I enable call forwarding to my Google voice number so that my calls will get forwarded and I can receive calls from Hangouts app.
Unfortunately I'm not getting any calls on Hangouts..
This used to work fine on my old Galaxy Note II.
I wish they implement wifi calling soon..
Any suggestions. Please help me
This works fine for me. I find that the settings on Google's voice site are confusing. Did you change anything there?
Also, you need to call forward your calls in the initial setup. Was this done?
EDIT: Oh, I see you want to take calls in Hangouts... That I do not do. I just get my VM handled by Google.
Check your power management settings. It sounds like the overly aggressive PM is not allowing notifications from google services and/or hangouts. Might be suspending those services/apps too.
I haven't had time to delve deep into this to figure out, but there's a few threads about similar issues where the cause was the power management. Certain apps/services will have to be white listed.
gpz1100 said:
Check your power management settings. It sounds like the overly aggressive PM is not allowing notifications from google services and/or hangouts. Might be suspending those services/apps too.
I haven't had time to delve deep into this to figure out, but there's a few threads about similar issues where the cause was the power management. Certain apps/services will have to be white listed.
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Thanks for the suggestion
I will look into PM.
ganesh.htc said:
Thanks for the suggestion
I will look into PM.
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I'm able to get calls now thanks