Internet connection - T-Mobile MDA Vatio II - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi all,
I've been having problems connecting to the internet now for a few weeks. Only one in 10 connections at best. 'Locating', 'Page Not Found' errors, no email.
I've read some of the posts on here about HSPDA, so I called T-Mobile to enable it, but they said that my price plan would have to increase. I think I'm on one of the lowest, but I didn't know there was extra costs for 'Walk 'n' Web'.
We went through some changes, but it didn't make my difference to my connections.
Has anyone any advice about either connections, or the HSPDA price plan issue? Are you paying the 'normal' price plan but are able to connect to HSPDA?
Thanks guys,
Ratzz

Ratzz,
Your not alone here, i have recently moved to T-Mobile and for the first week all was fine, both gprs and HSDPA were working fine, the later being very quick indeed for a mobile device.
This week has been a different story all together, since saturday morning my internet access has been very patchy, the same 'Locating', 'Page Not Found' errors that you are seeing. I can't offer any explanation, just sympathy and would love to get to the bottom of it myself.
Here's hoping.
scifi

For the past 3 weeks I have been using my Vario II as a usb modem and had no problems at all HSDPA working great as for price plan I have the basic web n walk, it is pot luck who you speak to at CS but keep calling and you will get HSDPA enabled once spoke to the right person, ask to be put through to technical.

is HSDPA the same as 3g or different? i'm on vodafone, will i need to get them to "turn hsdpa on" or is it on by default?

Check out the hermes forum over at www.modaco.com there is some indication this this is caused by a the T-Mobile DNS and T-Mobile transparent proxy servers being able to cope with the demand.
I had the same problem and have pretty much eliminated the delays by changing the DNS servers from being server assigned to 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 as many on modaco have done.

SimonTALM said:
Check out the hermes forum over at www.modaco.com there is some indication this this is caused by a the T-Mobile DNS and T-Mobile transparent proxy servers being able to cope with the demand.
I had the same problem and have pretty much eliminated the delays by changing the DNS servers from being server assigned to 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 as many on modaco have done.
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Tried that Simon ... same problems.
There is a link below which I found on a thread that worked ok for someone -- but again this didn't work for me.
http://www.manuals.t-mobile.co.uk/maillink.asp?a=3&wm=1a1677a401690a128256

ok, i seem to have found a combination that works for me at least.
I followed the steps on the MoDaCo thread above but used the following addresses.
DNS : 158.43.240.4
Alt DNS : 62.241.160.200
In the proxy settings, tick both "This network connects to the Internet" & This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet" and then click advanced. Tap the HTTP (type) and enter 149.254.201.132 port 8080 and click ok. This works great for me both on gsm (gprs) & HSDPA (UMTS).
Hope this works for you guys too.
Regards.

HSDPA
Hi
I use my Vario II on the train with a laptop over bluetooth everyday between stirling and edinburgh. The coverage is mostly 3G (Linlithgow being the exception), and I get one black-spot just south of linlithgow.
The situation with the original t-mob rom was dire. I am now using the test AKU3.3 rom with radio 1.27 and its much better. Bluetooth PAN seems more reliable than the old dial-up networking.
On my laptop, I have changed the DNS settings for the PAN to non t-mob ones. I was having the same issues everyone else reports with failed resolutions.
Some days it works superbly, some days, its sh1te. This is imho, simply issues at t-mobile. I travel at the same times on each day, so I dont see that the proxy can be loaded more so one day than the next.
I also find that with HSDPA switched off, things are far more reliable than with it on. Having said that, some days I get a good HSDPA connection all the way.
What I could do with is a cacheing DNS server running locally on the laptop that will override the TTL (time to live) for the domains that it caches. I would have installed bind, but its a beast (I use it at home)... Anyone know of a mini DNS server that would suit my needs? Currently I have the sites that I use regularly shoved in a hosts file!
Nigel

I'm having exactly the same problem, had put it down to a problem with my radio ROM, but from reading this thread it looks like a t-mobile problem, so hopefully it will sort itself in due course. In the mean time I'll have a look at changing those settings................cheers.

se4me said:
For the past 3 weeks I have been using my Vario II as a usb modem and had no problems at all HSDPA working great as for price plan I have the basic web n walk, it is pot luck who you speak to at CS but keep calling and you will get HSDPA enabled once spoke to the right person, ask to be put through to technical.
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Hi
I use USB instead of bluetooth where convenient from a laptop. Would you care to do a test @ http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html from your laptop while on HSDPA via USB ???
I get about 550K down and 330K up which although pretty good is way off the headline figures! Wondered if my tests were about the same as yours?
Nigel

HSDPA
Hi all,
Following on from my original message, I called T-Mobile today and insisted they enable HSDPA on my line for the ongoing internet problems.
They did it (I'm on the BASIC W&W), and within 10 minutes all my problems were solved.
Ratzz

Excellent news - Let's just hope it stays that way. If not give the DNS server settings a try.
BTW what sort of download speeds are you getting? I use http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1 and I tend to get a pretty constant 650kbps down and 350kbps up.
I have heard people getting in 750kbps upto over 1Mbps but not something I've ever managed and definately have HSPDA enabled on the phone and network.

enabling hsdpa seems to have fixed all my problems too.
Have seen speed upto 800 kbps so far.

T-Mobile UK Data
Anyone else got anything other than the following showing on their 'my t-mobile' page? You'll find it under 'Mobile Phone Summary-->View Or Modify Features Of Your Plan' :-
WAP Call On
VoiceMail On
SMS Text Messaging On
Call Waiting On
Call Hold On
Call Forward to VoiceMail On
GPRS On
Web & Wap 384k Up/2048 Down On Appearently this is the HSDPA setting
International & Premium Calls On
Voice & Data Roaming On
Picture Messaging On
3G (UMTS) Service On
Mobile email Off
Additionally in another section 'Mobile Phone Summary-->Additional Allowances And Services' I have the following:-
18 Month Upgrade Flag £0.00
Capped Data Rate £0.00
Remove Content Lock £0.00
Video Calling £0.00
£5 Go Direct Discount £0.00
I am wondering what the 'Capped Data Rate' is ?? Its available as a 'service' that can be added as well, but there is no way to remove it. Anyone else got the same showing on their 'my t-mobile' page ??
Nigel

If I remember correctly I have the option to add Capped Data Rate at no extra cost but it isn't applied to my account. I haven't applied it as I don't like the sound of somthing that is "Capped" - I'd love to find out what it is.
What WnW package are you on? I have the WnW Plus (so that I can legitimately use my VarioII as a modem for my laptop and not fear huge bills).

Hi
I am also on web and walk plus
Nigel

'Capped Data Rate'
is for if you dont have web n walk, it means your data carges are capped at £1 a day (midnight til midnight)

Related

T-Mobile Free GPRS problem

as of right now i cant get anything on the t-mobile free wap/gprs: cant load webpages and cant use AIM
anyone else get the same problem? thanx
Hi,
I've got exactly the same problem... stopped working about 4 days ago... tried everything... even a hard reset of my MDAIII... nothing did it... it does connect to GPRS, but then it doesn't do anything... the connection is established, it's not that the APN doesn't work or anything... it's just that no data comes through... any suggestions?
Treo
Same Issue
I'm having this problem with the wap.voicestream.com gateway on T-Mobile aswell. I contacted the Tmobile techs yesterday and they claim that there never has been (right) and never will be access to wap services over the XDA. The supposedly 'reset' my data connection, but this has no effect whatsoever on my ability to access the internet. Could T-Mobile finally do away with our free data (or in my case 4.99 for tzones)
Any further suggestions would be greatly helpful.
Best,
Matt
I just called t-mobile...
I just called t-mobile because I am having the same problem. The rep says that they finally closed the wap.voicestream.com loophole this past week and that's why it's not working. He said the only way I can get internet, e-mail, AIM etc.. is by paying the $19.99/month internet plan which is outrageous. So hopefully someone has suggestions on what to do...Is there a way to get access wth internet2.voicestream.com without paying the $19.99.
The rep was nice and said that wap.voicestream.com might still work with a wapbrowser.
I'll see if that works but either way say goodbye to your wireless XDA's!!!
Hi,
well, that's good and bad news... did he say whether the 19.99 add on is GPRS or not?... and which option is it exactly... I am willing to pay the extra bucks, but I want GPRS with a reasonable speed for that...
Ya- the internet2.voicestream.com is GPRS not so fast in my opinion- you really think it's worth $20 a month?
i'm not sure which server is which, but i use wap.voicestream.com with $4.99 t-zones and get wap speed but access to just about the entire web. the connection is way slow (do a search here for "test gprs speed" to compare my speed to others) but i don't care because i'm not a heavy user. also, i have to pay extra for any messaging that i do. i burnt agile messanger into my rom, and use it for aim occassionally; i pay $.05 for every message. unlimited email is included, but you have to use the my tmobile email bs. it's not bad, and email turnaround is usually 30 min. they will not allow me to have the $20 addon for gprs because of my credit class. i recently quite one of my jobs, selling cell phones, and can tell you that for $19.99 you get unlimited gprs everything, including IM. typical speed is 56kbps, although the network will support up to 114kbps (actual speed depends on signal strength, network traffic, blah, blah). Note that roaming is not inluded, so if you went to say NC, you will incur additional charges. anyway, post or pm me if you want to know more.
i'll screw around with different access points when i have time...
Wow- thsnks for the tips-
I installed a WAP browser last night and was able to access wap sites but I didn't even think of trying real sites until I read your post- and they work!! The speed is the same as before but I don't understand why these sites work on a WAP browser but not on IE.
Can you explain further on how to get e-mail with wap.voicestream.com. Before they closed the access I was able to just send and recieve using my POP-3 account. How can I do that now?
And for IM I used to use AIM for pocket PC using prt 80 but that has also stopped working.
I will try agile messenger when I get home- but why would that work and AIM not?
Also, I don't know why you pay $4.99 for t-zones when you can get the wap.voicestream.com access without it. I called t-mobile last night and they said that t-zones have nothing to do wth a pocket pc at all and from my experience they are right. i have been using wap.voicestream.com for months now without t-zones.
Thanks,
Daniel
what the hell is happening ? I am on my XDA right now using IE with wap.voicestream.com . AIM and my email works. Hopefully it's back up and this isn;t just a tease.
Hi,
no such luck here... I still don't get anything through wap.voicestream.com ... even though I even signed up for unlimited t-zones now... the 4.99 one... just to see whether that would get me anything... but no... not even wap sites work...
Even stranger... trying internet2.voicestream.com gets me the "Modem disconnected" crap, but actually, for a second or so, it works, loading parts of pages... any idea?
Treo
In order to use the email setup that I have, you have to have T-zones. Basicly, you go to "my tmobile" at tmobile.com, and click on my email. put in the info and it will send your phone program call that sets it up automaticly, or you can put it in manually. If you have the developer SE rom, it won't work, becuase they removed the programs that allow your carrier to program your phone. Also, I think "my email" only appears on "my tmobile" if you sign up for tzones. You tell thier server your emial info ,it checks your mail, and then forwards a copy to your phone...
As far as why stuff won't work......
OK. the way it used to work...
You could put in the server, blah, blah, blah..... and get just about free everything.
BUT THEN.....
T-Mobile started gearing up for T-zones. A new concept where they make money off of people accessing the internet through wireless devices. Makes sense. BUT this is a VERY LARGE and INTRICATE network of computers LANS and WANS not to mention GPRS connections. SO, T-zones is implemented across the network, hurridly, so not everything is 100%. Some geographic areas still allow unauthorized (free) access, becuase not all the equipment is set up correctly. On top of that, if your device confuses the network, you might sitll get free access. Some devices do, some don't. IF you sign up for T-zones with win 2003 and set up wap.voicestream.com as the access point using GPRS/Cellular, then you should be able to go to PIE, put in an address, and it will fire up WAP or WWW. Some wallabies/himilayas just won't do it (radio and rom ver???)(to the best of my knowledge). It is what I have been using for quite some time and it's what I'm using right now.Right now I still have WWW access, but not IM (agile will not sign on anymore (aim)).
I also happen to know that they are performing MAJOR system wide maintainance right now in geographical blocks. I had a problem and called cust care, and then asked my T-Mo rep about it. Sure enough, they are updateing alot of equipment. So this might explain why my AIM is out.
Ports are only unlocked when the system unlocks them (IE you paid for access) or somehow those ports were just never locked on your account (IE your lucky).
Short of the long.... in VA (where I am) I have access with what I have setup. In other parts of th country, it might not work.
If you just buy hte GPRS package, then stop screwing around with us, call customer care, and keep reaming new a$$holes in customer service reps, until you get what you want.
Do a search for "free unlimited GPRS" find all words. About 2/3 down the page, someone announces that it only works with 2003. That's where I set up my connection from. I don't specify anything but wap.voicestream.com.
Anyway.....I'm very busy, but will try to check back tommorrow.
On my MDA II, Agile doesnt connect through APN=WAP gprs. In their manual, they say it should connect!
I'd like to upload pictures from my device. My provider is Orange NL
I want to use APN=WAP, because it is free.
any idea?
Hi,
well... I've been quite on an adventure with T-Mobile GPRS... I purchased their 4.99 unlimited t-zones add-on after my free GPRS didn't work anymore... couple days later I was back online with wap.voicestream.com ... now, about 5 days ago, internet stops working again... no http... but my email still works... so, I figure they are blocking port 80 for some reason... to test that I was going to start a proxy server on one of my webservers... to see whether I can tunnel http through one of the open mail ports... what do you think about this... do other people have the same issues?
Treo
I had no problem sending HTTP thru port 110 to Squid running on my server.
Check this out too:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=517786
Looks like that person is using T-Mobile's proxy server to surf both HTTP and WAP.
I just got of the phone with Cus Care. EXCELENT. I actually got someone who owns a wallaby, and cooks his own roms. This is much different from the normal pageturner I end up haveing to deal with!
Anyway, the damn 6315 required the network to be revamped, and the bastards ended up cutting out tzones for wallabies. :evil: now it's $20 unlimited GPRS or nothing.... dirty bastards.
I got the Tmobile WAP working again!
I have the 4.99 tzones. Mail always worked. The web stopped working earlier this month.
I installed NetFront 3.1 and use 216.155.165.50 port 8080 in the proxy settings. Works like a charm. NetFront is cool too. Beats the stew out of Pocket IE.
Does anyone know how to remove Pocket IE...I could really use the room.
GPRS IE Now Working on T-Mobile
I have an XDA II running 1.72.181 and using the Blackberry mail with internet and voice plans on T-Mobile. My internet also stopped working a week or so ago. T-Mobile unable to help because "XDA is not supported device..." :evil: I believe my problem stems from the same network changes that are mentioned above related to HP PPC.
Anyhow, based on Fuzzie's post and info, I set a new wap.voicestream.com connection up under My Work Settings, set up the proxy based on fuzzie's IP info and, hey presto!, internet browsing restored!! Have to stop the blackberry client and connect using the My Work connection BEFORE launching IE, but small price to pay to get my internet connection back!!
Thanks to all for the leads and data!!
Regards
Chris
Were you on an Internet plan or a t-zones plan?
Actually on a Blackberry Minutes and mail plan, using the Blackberry APN or the wap,voicestream.com APN for browsing. Both stopped working a week or so back. Then I read this thread and am now back up browsing using the wap.voicestream APM via the proxy
SO,
is there anyway to use PIE and Tzones to browse the web, or would I have to install some other wap browser???
Which settings would one use if he were using PIE?
Thanks in advance!
and MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

O2 3G and GPRS?

Since rebooting my O2 XDA Exec into Corporate mode, I seem to have no GPRS nor 3G setup as neither will connect to send MMS messages - any ideas?
Dude, corporate mode does not install any of your gprs and mms settings.
If you installed this mode to get rid of the dreadful o2 interface, you would be better installing basic mode.
This gets rid of the o2 rubbish but installs your gprs and mms settings.
Fatzzz
If your interested i have made a cab file with just the O2 connections settings app in it. None of the other Active stuff is there. I did try to upload it to tekguru but had problems so i have it on one of my websites here.
http://caravan-smart.co.uk/xda-exec.asp
Ahhhhh nice one dude, very helpful - just got to hope my area has 3G coverage now!!
Nice one - so after a hard reset you install corporate mode from the extended rom, then install your cab in personal and all will be set up? Does that include MMS as well as I had real troubles getting Pocket Outlook to see MMS account once in corporate mode and soft reset.
Will try it and see how it goes!
Nice one dude,
Fin
NO MATE, I think you'll find its BASIC mode as the chap says - Personal will shove all the O2 crap on there, whereas BASIC just puts the GPRS and 3G settings on - just done it and it works fine!!
HOWEVER when I try to start a 3G video call, it states "The 3G network is not available....", I don't quite get this 3G, do I have one connection that is either GPRS or 3G depending on signal, or are there two connections here, if so, how do I use each?
Anyone on O2 managed to get O2 Video Calling to work to another Exec?
Thanks mate!
No, I was referring to Dingo's cab, when you hard reset you select corporate mode with the code 0506 then run his cab, then as he says on his site, click Personal this time as his cab just contains the Connection settings. Just done it and all seems to be working well - thanks Dingo!!
Thanks for the CAB file, Dingo. Will try it out at the next hard reset.
Not sure if its me, but Hotmail from Pocket MSN seems to be playing up now - can anyone else report the same thing? It keeps freezing when I click on it and Pocket Outlook doesn't see the account.
Fin
Yep I have tried the O2 Exec to Exec video dialling. It was nice to try, but wasn't that great. And I think its now 50p per minute, so won't be doing it again in a hurry. :shock:
Cheers
Nasdaq
No apparently until March its charged at the same price as Voice Calls, also can be part of inclusive minutes for voice calls - after that time it'll be 50p as you say.
My mistake, was told differently by a friend. Still won't use it though, sound was delayed and not very clear. :roll:
Cheers
Nasdaq
Glad you find it of use.
The way i do it if i hard reset is after setting up the screen and the O2 stuff is about to install when you get the 3 second countdown i soft reset. This will give you a vanilla install of WM5 on your Universal and none of the Ext ROM will be installed.
This way though you do not get any of the pathces and fixes etc so i selectivly install them from the XDA Exec Ext ROM posted on the xda-dev ftp site
I then install the settings cab i made to enter my O2 Connection settings.
For the most part as described by others above you will probably be best to use corp mode for your initial setup. Then just choose pesonel when you run the CAB i made.
As far as i am aware you can still use this without a hard reset as it only installs the connections app. I have tested on mine and it was ok but would be interested if it works for others.
ashleyhall said:
NO MATE, I think you'll find its BASIC mode as the chap says - Personal will shove all the O2 crap on there, whereas BASIC just puts the GPRS and 3G settings on - just done it and it works fine!!
HOWEVER when I try to start a 3G video call, it states "The 3G network is not available....", I don't quite get this 3G, do I have one connection that is either GPRS or 3G depending on signal, or are there two connections here, if so, how do I use each?
Anyone on O2 managed to get O2 Video Calling to work to another Exec?
Thanks mate!
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3G coverage is still a bit thin with O2. If you look at the icon next to your phone signal strength it should read either G or U. If it is G then you are on their NON 3G network, if it displays U then you are on thei 3G network.
I am in a week 3G area at home and mine swaps between the 2 every few minutes.
Ahhhhh interesting...wonder why they chose 'U' for 3G..doesn't quite compute!
Looking forward to playing with 3G at some stage in the future then!
ashleyhall said:
Ahhhhh interesting...wonder why they chose 'U' for 3G..doesn't quite compute!
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'U' stands for UTMS, which is the system that we call 3G (or 3rd Generation). The 'G' stands for GSM, which is the 2nd generation networks we've all enjoyed using for the last 15 years.
ashleyhall said:
Looking forward to playing with 3G at some stage in the future then!
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I thought it might be fun too, but the truth is that I know hardly anybody with a video phone, and considering how unreliable the 3G coverage is around where I live (Sussex) it's unlikely to be much use anyway. The whole 3G premise is based on a gimmick IMHO rather than a genuine consumer need. Sure, the data rates are faster and in time this will be a good driver for the technology, but then they charge us a fcuking fortune to use it, so only a handful of people bother. Madness.
Video calling works across networks. I have found many of my relatives have 3 3G mobile phones and are able to receive video calls from me (as on Vodafone video calls are free for a short period and on O2 the rate is the same as voice calls). O2 and Vodafone UMTS download speeds are good (coverage in London is resonable and in Berkshire).
not working
have tried this - I cant connect at all - after hard reseting in corporate then running this cab and setting to personal - it tries to dial mobile web but says it cant connect for an unknown reason - any ideas
Vanilla
works ok on vanilla install - it seems since this thread was started ON hav changed some thing but this cab has no problems after vanilla installl only after corporate - I am gonna run the bug fixing cabs etc in the ext rom manually !!!
My GPRS still aint configured correctly - it connects fine but I get no internet access, its as if the proxy is configured wrong?
Is there a cab that puts the correct 3G and GPRS settings onto my phone without any user configuration required? (and without mucking up my system).

3G speed on O2 128k or 384k

This will apply to some people as they may already be set up for the higher speed with O2.
To have the 3G speed increased you will need to contact O2 data support team and ask them to make the amendment to your account the following is information about the 3G service from data support
"3G Speeds - 128k or 384k
By default a 3G sim with data but no voice will have a maximim of 384k data rate. By default a 3G sim with data + voice will have a maximum of 128k data rate.
Therefore a 3G data card for a laptop will come with a 384k sim. And Xda Exec for example, will come with a 128k speed sim"
The speed increase can be completed by changing the connection speed indicator on O2's systems this will need to be done by data support
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Cheers for that - I got my SIm the other day and notice it wasn't significantly faster!
Thanks Again
Darren
You are 100% Correct
Just spoke to O2 Data support, who barely knew it, and they confirmed:
All Voice 3G cards are defaulted to 128K
You need to call and ask to have that moved up to 384K.
Rather stupid don't you think?
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mikeycollins13 said:
Just spoke to O2 Data support, who barely knew it, and they confirmed:
All Voice 3G cards are defaulted to 128K
You need to call and ask to have that moved up to 384K.
Rather stupid don't you think?
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Imagine if every 3G sim ever sent requests 384k service. On a typical 2meg cell, that's about 4 users.
No imagine even 10% of the 3G wap handsets doing this. 384k to download 2kb pages? insane network management.
The actions of the many affect the services of the few.... and it's nuts to give everyone 384 when 99.9% of your customer base won't use it.
I believe other carriers have a similar approach...
Yes, but it's blatently dis-honest to advertise 384k and 128
They are are just opening themselves to a major law suit or slap on the wrist. Everywhere they advertise 384k, yet even the video calls pass at 128K,???? So now, nine and my wife's will pass at 384K
Much better,. but dis-honest from o2 for sure,
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mikeycollins13 said:
They are are just opening themselves to a major law suit or slap on the wrist. Everywhere they advertise 384k, yet even the video calls pass at 128K,???? So now, nine and my wife's will pass at 384K
Much better,. but dis-honest from o2 for sure,
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Not to be picky, but video-calling does not use the 384Kb at all. It is using a standard voice-channel for this (it is circuit-switched, instead of packet data). A standard voice-channel is 64Kbit....
I called the the O2 Data Team at the weekend I was told that the maximum speed I could expect even on UMTS was 128kbps!
For those that have been told that the data rate has been changed have you seen an improved performance? When I do have a UMTS connection I find the download speed to be adequate for most web sites I visit (e.g. here and my-symbian).
I've just called Data Services, and been told it is not possible to upgrade the speed to 384k if you have a voice enabled sim.
He was willing to send me out a data-only sim (with 384k enabled), but I said that was useless to me.
Can't believe that's as fast as I'm going to get on 3G.
Is it just me, or does browsing feel slower than 36k most of the time?
That seems wrong to me
The technician was not aware and then he saw it and said he needed a special tech guy to turn it on, but it was doable. My advice try again, you may fall on a more cooperative fellah.
M
Just picking myself up off the floor here.....the same O2 Tech Support guy just phoned me back!! Told me he had done further investigation and was told that it is possible with the Exec (there's a surprise, not like O2 to tell you one thing, and then find out it is blatantly untrue).
Anyway he is making the change, but says that I shouldn't expect speeds much above 256k.
The technical term (as frogspit originally posted) is a 'Speed Indicator', mentioning that should get your uneducated O2 Technician pointed in the right direction.
Top marks to the guy for phoning me back though.
We have lift off
Mine is noticeably faster now. Test your 3G speed here:
http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
Mine was off the charts, so i am now happy.
I'm in a good (T mobile) GPRS location and borderline UMTS area. My test results are:
[drum roll]
CARRIER LOST, SIGNAL DROPPED :roll:
Any way to turn off 3g signal detection?
Well, I tried the speed test (text download only) at http://performance.toast.net/ and it took 11 seconds to load, which is apparently 248k. Not too shabby.
(I'm at Canary Wharf, London and using T-Mobile UMTS by the way)
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mikeycollins13 said:
Mine is noticeably faster now. Test your 3G speed here:
http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
Mine was off the charts, so i am now happy.
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I have strange results. My Exec tells me it only has GPRS coverage and the speed result was 227kbps?!!?!!?
I'll try again later from Waterloo (London) as there is very good UMTS coverage there
I use the GPRS monitor program that came with the Exec, and a week or 2 ago i looked at the speed and it was 220k.
even tho this is over the 128k for a 3g sim i rang o2 as well to ask for the full 384k connection.
at first i was told that for mobile web on a device (i.e a phone) the speed id 128k, a video call is 64k and Wap was 125k, If i had a data sim in a data card it would be 384k.
after they gave me a load of bull sh1t, and i gave them plenty back about my data card and when i use my orange sim in the exec, bla bla bla. They said they would lok into it and see what they could do
they did call me back and again said web brousing for a typical device nokia 6680 would use 3g at 128k but i could have the speed upgraded to 384k as a exec is a mobile device but has properties of a laptop.
They then called back to say it seems like it has already been done. for witch i said thanks, they must be correct as i have got 220k befor, i have just tried again with 1-2 of of 4 bars of 3g coverage and got 281k
John
Slightly off topic (as I'm on Vodafone UK), but I just tested my Exec using http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/ and I got 422.6kbps (in a 1 bar 3G signal area).
Great for watching the FREE Sky TV!
Webspider, I have a Voda 3G SIM but not sure how to get the free video. Any guidance would be great!
jah,
You'll need a copy of pvPlayer to play the mobile stream (available somewhere on this forum - just search).
Also you need to make sure you have the correct settings for Vodafone Live!
APN: wap.vodafone.co.uk
and the proxy: 212.183.137.12:8799 for HTTP
You also need to make sure that this is connection that gets used for Internet.
Now, here's where you can make a choice. For Vodafone Live! WAP page to think you are a 3G mobile, you have to fool it into believing you are an 'approved' handset.
So you can do this by changing the useragent on your browser, either IE or another browser.
For internet explorer, the registry key to change is:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\]
and change (Default) to 'Nokia6630' (you can try other handsets, but this one seems to work fine)
all the other values such as compatible, Desc, Platform, UA-language, Version need to be blanked so I'd take a backup.
In fact if you do a .reg for the normal settings, and another for the changed settings you can just run one before you open IE.
Once you've changed these settings, connect to Vodafone Live! (make sure you are in UMTS coverage) and goto: http://live.vodafone.co.uk
There should be a link at the top right for Sky TV (test it with Channel 4 first, sometimes there is an issue with the Sky channels!) and as long as pvPlayer installed correctly, it should automatically load the stream on clicking Play.
Alternatively, I have NetFront setup on mine, and have the useragent settings changed in that, only difference is that pvPlayer won't auto-load from netfront so you'll have to copy and paste the link into pvPlayer!
(make sure you also include the proxy in NetFront or nothing will load)
@Webspider, thank you so much. WOW new hobby, will have to learn about regediton the Universal!
Thanks, Webspider. That was very useful informatin on getting the Vodafone live TV to work. Unfortunately I have hit a snag that perhaps someone can help with.
I have downloaded and installed the latest version of PvPlayer that I could find on this forum (Version 3.3, build 007) but it does not seem to be able to play the streaming video on the Vodafone live site.
When I click on one of the links to play the video I get an error saying "Running a system command on this item might be unsafe. Do you wish to continue". If I say Yes, I get a message saying "The file rtsp://stream...... cannot be opened". It seems to me that the PvPlayer hasn't properly registered itself to handle this file type.
I have tried copying the link into PvPlayer. In this case, it very nearly works! It goes through the buffering process but when it gets to 100% it says "File is corrupt".
Anyone have a suggestion?
Thanks in advance.
Mark

Softbank X01HT on t-mobile GPRS setttings

Hi,
I have tried for over a month now to get my Softbank X01HT(same as HTC TyTn and tmo MDA?) to work with the t-mobile usa gprs with no luck. I have contacted t-mobile and spent over two hours on the phone with them trying different things to get it to work. I would like to know if anyone out there has gotten this to work and if so please share with me how? Also, is there something preventing the phone from accepting a connection from t-mobile? The phone was purchased unlocked. I am using the HTC TyTn ROM on this phone.
Thanks in advance,
Mine works fine
Hi Braheem,
I have a softbank x01ht and have it connected to the tmobile network here in cali. When I first got it i just dropped my sim card in it and input the network settings from tmobile and I was on surfing the web with no problems. Three days later I couldn't connect. I allowed this to go on for three days and I finally called t-mobile. The first lady I talked to in tech support said everything was fine and nothing was wrong with my account. Then she asked if I wanted to go to pda support so I said sure why not. I just told them that my phone was the same as the mda II and she informed me that what had happened was I was on the 5.99 internet plan and they had a script run through and disconnect ppl that were using that plan with pda's. Only thing I think is maybe seeing ppl with high internet usage and then disabiling it? She said if I sign up with the pda plan for 29.99 then I would be able to get on in 24 hours. 12 min later i was up and surfing the web again and it has been that way for over a week. She said to get to pda support just say pda at the voice menu. Anyway hope this helps. If you need network settings they are on the t-mobile site, but i can help you out more if you aren't sure what to put or where to put them.
DocGSXR
I have an x01ht with the 19.99 blackberry plan in california, usa. Mine has been working all the time. all you have to do is on your "my-tmobile" change your phone to any blackberry and get the 19.99 add-on internet plan and allow 5 to 10 minutes for the plan to activate, on your htc go to start>settings>connections>Connections click on add a new modem connection
and fill everything out:
Enter a name for the connection: whatever you want
Select a modem: cellular GPRS, 3G
Access Point Name: wap.voicestream.com
leave user name, password and domain empty and click finish
Now from here you can have internet but its going to take a while the first time you try to access it. Open PIE (Pocket Internet Explorer), you will see a pop-up notification when the gprs/edge is connecting. load any website. I suggest using google.com to make the load faster. Its going to take around 2 to 3 minutes for the page to load completely.
Now here is something nobody else has done in this forum, something new and fresh. You want faster internet? Here is what you have to do:
First, download and install a registry editor (I personally use PHM RegEdit)
Open it and go to HKEY_CURRENT-USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings
now look for "ProxyEnable" click on it and make sure the value data is set to 1 (it will enable proxy to work on PIE), if it doesn't exist (which i doubt) create it, to do that go to edit>New DWORD and fill it out like this:
Value name: ProxyEnable
Value Data: 1
Base: Decimal
click ok.
Now create a string value with the name "ProxyServer", to do that go to edit>new string value and fill it out like this:
Value name: ProxyServer
Value Data: 216.155.165.050:8080
click ok.
Now restart the device and run PIE, you will clearly notice how the pages load faster.
The reason I know this is because I am a network professional, I will not explain in detail why this settings make the internet faster but ill try to make it as clear as possible:
You can get the 5.99 t-mobileweb that will allow you to ONLY use the PIE. You will not be able to use e-mail, stream media or use im clients because the ports are blocked.
The blackberry add-on plan will allow you to do everything possible with internet on your device but they internet speed is slower.
Both plans use the same servers but the ports make the difference in speed, so to take advantage of the best qualities from both plans I added the proxies for exclusive use of the PIE in the registry (since there are no settings in the PIE software to configure the proxies).
I hope it helps you. Please forgive my weird english i'm Colombian. if you need further help feel free to PM me.
I am new to windows mobile devices but I can be of help with things related to networking.
How about on AT&T's 3G network?
Interesting posting. But would your suggested ProxyServer value be good also for AT&T 3G network? Actually, I am trying to use my Softbank X01HT(Hermes200) with a non-AT&T ROM to access its Media Net (with a Media Max bundle plan), but don't know the proper settings.
All I saw so far were postings for Cingular (AT&T) 8525 which is officially supported by AT&T and perhaps >95% similar to X01HT in hardware. But I suspect the ROMs for these two phones are different, so the settings should be different too. Is it true? Can you help? Thanks.

isp.cingular vs. wap.cingular?

I have always used wap.cingular and have seen references to isp.cingular. After searching, I cannot seem to find why I would use isp.cingular. Does anyone know the difference?
While I am at it, anyone know what that disable and restore proxy settings are for as well? I don't have them on my CUSTEL 2.5 ROM and I know they came out on the last Cingular ROM (or if I added the CUSTEL Cing Apps pack) but I haven't seen a need for them.
Maybe...maybe not
Well, here's my 2 cents, cause I wish I could get isp.cingular to work. Since I upgraded to the latest ROM I've been unable to make isp.cingular work. Before, when I went to a page, such as Google, I'd get the normal Google page. Now that I seem to be stuck with wap.cingular, I'm automatically redirected to the WAP page (www.google.com/m). I've found no way around it. Everything is fine when there's no WAP page. But I'd rather have a little more control on some web pages...Google is a good example, cause I hate their WAP page.
Oh, I love Cingular questions.
I suspect there may be a move afoot to eventually phase out isp.cingular. If you have a MEdiaNet plan, you must to use wap.cingular, isp won't work. Heretofore either access point has worked for PDAConnect plans, although it's interesting that kpk703 appears to have lost the ability with a ROM update.
Only practical use I've found for the proxy is the ability to access MEdiaNet services such as http://home and Cellular (formerly Cingular) Video (available to any plan, I'm reasonably certain).
With the PDA connect plan (and you have to specifically ask for the PDA connect plan, you can use either). NOTE: with the ROM update, and possible the one before, IE is hard coded to use the wap.cingular proxy. You need to disable that. (do a search).
Kimo
$20 MEdia Net for the win?
sim card question
Does it matter what sim card you use. I'm using my old orange cingular sim card from 2 plus years ago, it's the 64K smart chip sim card. Ii have received new sim cards with my wizard and with the 8525 but just kept using the old card. My connections work fine and speed doesn't seem to be an issue. I'm thinkin if it ain't broken don't fix it....am i right on this one?
Yeah I do have a media net plan, so I guess I have to use wap.cing... Might not matter. I will play around with the proxy settings when I get a ROM that has them. I have never seen the http://home, but then again its probably just another cingular splash page.
Not a proxy issue
I have the PDA Personal Max...and I don't subscribe to Medianet. Not a proxy issue on this side. My problem isn't with Internet Explorer...I can't even connect to isp.cingular anymore. When it attempts to connect it gives me an error. Again, fine until ROM upgrade.
anothersmith said:
Does it matter what sim card you use. I'm using my old orange cingular sim card from 2 plus years ago, it's the 64K smart chip sim card. Ii have received new sim cards with my wizard and with the 8525 but just kept using the old card. My connections work fine and speed doesn't seem to be an issue. I'm thinkin if it ain't broken don't fix it....am i right on this one?
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Yes, I've got the same SIM card and it works fine for me.
diaftia said:
Yeah I do have a media net plan, so I guess I have to use wap.cing... Might not matter. I will play around with the proxy settings when I get a ROM that has them. I have never seen the http://home, but then again its probably just another cingular splash page.
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Nah, it's actually a bit more than that. Local weather, news, sports & entertainment links. Access to your account. Customizable. Pretty cool, IMO.
kpk703 said:
I have the PDA Personal Max...and I don't subscribe to Medianet. Not a proxy issue on this side. My problem isn't with Internet Explorer...I can't even connect to isp.cingular anymore. When it attempts to connect it gives me an error. Again, fine until ROM upgrade.
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I don't believe the PDA Personal Max works with the isp.cingular. I had that plan too, and could not get it too work. I then called and switched to the PDA connect, and it started to work. They are the same price, but you don't get any SMS/IM messages with the PDA connect.
Kimo
For what it's worth
Cingular/ATT customer service seems to know less and less about the situation the more often I call. It only appears to be a provisioning matter if you've subscribed to one of the MediaNet packages, where you're basically SOL. If you have PDA Connect, PDA Max or PDA Personal Max, without a MediaNet add-on, isp.cingular should work. I tried an experiment and have had limited, yet some, success. Using ProxyManager I ran the EnableProxy cab, tried to connect to isp.cingular, no go. Back in ProxyManager I ran DisableProxy. Was able to connect and bring up a page in IE. Now, new problem. I can't get into all web sites. From just a couple tests it appears web sites with WAP detection turned on won't come up, Google, Yahoo for example. Other sites, that I know do not have WAP pages, seem to come up fine. The good news (if you can call it that) is that the automatic redirection to WAP sites, like www.google.com/m, isn't happening. Of course, www.google.com is coming up either. Ready for a couple more suggestions. At least I think I'm headed in the right direction.
I too have experinced the inability to connect to isp.cingular. I have upgraded to a WM6 ROM, also changed my plan to a PDA unlimited plan that has the 1500 included SMS/MMS. So I can't really say if either one is the culprit here. When I called tech support, I was told that isp.cingular and wap.cingular are basicly the same pipe, that isp is mostly used for the cards, and wap for the PDAs. Now the girl seemed to be technical, and I'm not an expert on Cingular/AT&T (yet), so I'll give her he benefit of the doubt. Assuming this to be the case and they are/share the same pipe, then it's just QOL/routing that is the primary difference, not speed. Of course I don't friggin have 3g in my area yet, so I can't comment on that aspect.
This sound right?
ISP is for PDAs, Connect Cards and Computers. ISP has the option of using a cingular proxy server to compress data as it is sent. it also has higher speed caps and lower latency. u will not usually be able to access isp with the medianet plans unless a mistake(serious) has been made in your provisioning. my COU line used to allow it but alas I have 3g no longer .
if you can, use ISP if not , dont sweat it.
I have the "PDA Personal Unlimited" plan, and not the MEdia connect plan, but I still can only connect to wap. and not isp.cingular.com.
The connection gets dropped immediately.

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