3G speed on O2 128k or 384k - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

This will apply to some people as they may already be set up for the higher speed with O2.
To have the 3G speed increased you will need to contact O2 data support team and ask them to make the amendment to your account the following is information about the 3G service from data support
"3G Speeds - 128k or 384k
By default a 3G sim with data but no voice will have a maximim of 384k data rate. By default a 3G sim with data + voice will have a maximum of 128k data rate.
Therefore a 3G data card for a laptop will come with a 384k sim. And Xda Exec for example, will come with a 128k speed sim"
The speed increase can be completed by changing the connection speed indicator on O2's systems this will need to be done by data support
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Cheers for that - I got my SIm the other day and notice it wasn't significantly faster!
Thanks Again
Darren

You are 100% Correct
Just spoke to O2 Data support, who barely knew it, and they confirmed:
All Voice 3G cards are defaulted to 128K
You need to call and ask to have that moved up to 384K.
Rather stupid don't you think?

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mikeycollins13 said:
Just spoke to O2 Data support, who barely knew it, and they confirmed:
All Voice 3G cards are defaulted to 128K
You need to call and ask to have that moved up to 384K.
Rather stupid don't you think?
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Imagine if every 3G sim ever sent requests 384k service. On a typical 2meg cell, that's about 4 users.
No imagine even 10% of the 3G wap handsets doing this. 384k to download 2kb pages? insane network management.
The actions of the many affect the services of the few.... and it's nuts to give everyone 384 when 99.9% of your customer base won't use it.
I believe other carriers have a similar approach...

Yes, but it's blatently dis-honest to advertise 384k and 128
They are are just opening themselves to a major law suit or slap on the wrist. Everywhere they advertise 384k, yet even the video calls pass at 128K,???? So now, nine and my wife's will pass at 384K
Much better,. but dis-honest from o2 for sure,

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mikeycollins13 said:
They are are just opening themselves to a major law suit or slap on the wrist. Everywhere they advertise 384k, yet even the video calls pass at 128K,???? So now, nine and my wife's will pass at 384K
Much better,. but dis-honest from o2 for sure,
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Not to be picky, but video-calling does not use the 384Kb at all. It is using a standard voice-channel for this (it is circuit-switched, instead of packet data). A standard voice-channel is 64Kbit....

I called the the O2 Data Team at the weekend I was told that the maximum speed I could expect even on UMTS was 128kbps!
For those that have been told that the data rate has been changed have you seen an improved performance? When I do have a UMTS connection I find the download speed to be adequate for most web sites I visit (e.g. here and my-symbian).

I've just called Data Services, and been told it is not possible to upgrade the speed to 384k if you have a voice enabled sim.
He was willing to send me out a data-only sim (with 384k enabled), but I said that was useless to me.
Can't believe that's as fast as I'm going to get on 3G.
Is it just me, or does browsing feel slower than 36k most of the time?

That seems wrong to me
The technician was not aware and then he saw it and said he needed a special tech guy to turn it on, but it was doable. My advice try again, you may fall on a more cooperative fellah.
M

Just picking myself up off the floor here.....the same O2 Tech Support guy just phoned me back!! Told me he had done further investigation and was told that it is possible with the Exec (there's a surprise, not like O2 to tell you one thing, and then find out it is blatantly untrue).
Anyway he is making the change, but says that I shouldn't expect speeds much above 256k.
The technical term (as frogspit originally posted) is a 'Speed Indicator', mentioning that should get your uneducated O2 Technician pointed in the right direction.
Top marks to the guy for phoning me back though.

We have lift off
Mine is noticeably faster now. Test your 3G speed here:
http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
Mine was off the charts, so i am now happy.

I'm in a good (T mobile) GPRS location and borderline UMTS area. My test results are:
[drum roll]
CARRIER LOST, SIGNAL DROPPED :roll:
Any way to turn off 3g signal detection?

Well, I tried the speed test (text download only) at http://performance.toast.net/ and it took 11 seconds to load, which is apparently 248k. Not too shabby.
(I'm at Canary Wharf, London and using T-Mobile UMTS by the way)

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mikeycollins13 said:
Mine is noticeably faster now. Test your 3G speed here:
http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
Mine was off the charts, so i am now happy.
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I have strange results. My Exec tells me it only has GPRS coverage and the speed result was 227kbps?!!?!!?
I'll try again later from Waterloo (London) as there is very good UMTS coverage there

I use the GPRS monitor program that came with the Exec, and a week or 2 ago i looked at the speed and it was 220k.
even tho this is over the 128k for a 3g sim i rang o2 as well to ask for the full 384k connection.
at first i was told that for mobile web on a device (i.e a phone) the speed id 128k, a video call is 64k and Wap was 125k, If i had a data sim in a data card it would be 384k.
after they gave me a load of bull sh1t, and i gave them plenty back about my data card and when i use my orange sim in the exec, bla bla bla. They said they would lok into it and see what they could do
they did call me back and again said web brousing for a typical device nokia 6680 would use 3g at 128k but i could have the speed upgraded to 384k as a exec is a mobile device but has properties of a laptop.
They then called back to say it seems like it has already been done. for witch i said thanks, they must be correct as i have got 220k befor, i have just tried again with 1-2 of of 4 bars of 3g coverage and got 281k
John

Slightly off topic (as I'm on Vodafone UK), but I just tested my Exec using http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/ and I got 422.6kbps (in a 1 bar 3G signal area).
Great for watching the FREE Sky TV!

Webspider, I have a Voda 3G SIM but not sure how to get the free video. Any guidance would be great!

jah,
You'll need a copy of pvPlayer to play the mobile stream (available somewhere on this forum - just search).
Also you need to make sure you have the correct settings for Vodafone Live!
APN: wap.vodafone.co.uk
and the proxy: 212.183.137.12:8799 for HTTP
You also need to make sure that this is connection that gets used for Internet.
Now, here's where you can make a choice. For Vodafone Live! WAP page to think you are a 3G mobile, you have to fool it into believing you are an 'approved' handset.
So you can do this by changing the useragent on your browser, either IE or another browser.
For internet explorer, the registry key to change is:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\]
and change (Default) to 'Nokia6630' (you can try other handsets, but this one seems to work fine)
all the other values such as compatible, Desc, Platform, UA-language, Version need to be blanked so I'd take a backup.
In fact if you do a .reg for the normal settings, and another for the changed settings you can just run one before you open IE.
Once you've changed these settings, connect to Vodafone Live! (make sure you are in UMTS coverage) and goto: http://live.vodafone.co.uk
There should be a link at the top right for Sky TV (test it with Channel 4 first, sometimes there is an issue with the Sky channels!) and as long as pvPlayer installed correctly, it should automatically load the stream on clicking Play.
Alternatively, I have NetFront setup on mine, and have the useragent settings changed in that, only difference is that pvPlayer won't auto-load from netfront so you'll have to copy and paste the link into pvPlayer!
(make sure you also include the proxy in NetFront or nothing will load)

@Webspider, thank you so much. WOW new hobby, will have to learn about regediton the Universal!

Thanks, Webspider. That was very useful informatin on getting the Vodafone live TV to work. Unfortunately I have hit a snag that perhaps someone can help with.
I have downloaded and installed the latest version of PvPlayer that I could find on this forum (Version 3.3, build 007) but it does not seem to be able to play the streaming video on the Vodafone live site.
When I click on one of the links to play the video I get an error saying "Running a system command on this item might be unsafe. Do you wish to continue". If I say Yes, I get a message saying "The file rtsp://stream...... cannot be opened". It seems to me that the PvPlayer hasn't properly registered itself to handle this file type.
I have tried copying the link into PvPlayer. In this case, it very nearly works! It goes through the buffering process but when it gets to 100% it says "File is corrupt".
Anyone have a suggestion?
Thanks in advance.
Mark

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O2 3G and GPRS?

Since rebooting my O2 XDA Exec into Corporate mode, I seem to have no GPRS nor 3G setup as neither will connect to send MMS messages - any ideas?
Dude, corporate mode does not install any of your gprs and mms settings.
If you installed this mode to get rid of the dreadful o2 interface, you would be better installing basic mode.
This gets rid of the o2 rubbish but installs your gprs and mms settings.
Fatzzz
If your interested i have made a cab file with just the O2 connections settings app in it. None of the other Active stuff is there. I did try to upload it to tekguru but had problems so i have it on one of my websites here.
http://caravan-smart.co.uk/xda-exec.asp
Ahhhhh nice one dude, very helpful - just got to hope my area has 3G coverage now!!
Nice one - so after a hard reset you install corporate mode from the extended rom, then install your cab in personal and all will be set up? Does that include MMS as well as I had real troubles getting Pocket Outlook to see MMS account once in corporate mode and soft reset.
Will try it and see how it goes!
Nice one dude,
Fin
NO MATE, I think you'll find its BASIC mode as the chap says - Personal will shove all the O2 crap on there, whereas BASIC just puts the GPRS and 3G settings on - just done it and it works fine!!
HOWEVER when I try to start a 3G video call, it states "The 3G network is not available....", I don't quite get this 3G, do I have one connection that is either GPRS or 3G depending on signal, or are there two connections here, if so, how do I use each?
Anyone on O2 managed to get O2 Video Calling to work to another Exec?
Thanks mate!
No, I was referring to Dingo's cab, when you hard reset you select corporate mode with the code 0506 then run his cab, then as he says on his site, click Personal this time as his cab just contains the Connection settings. Just done it and all seems to be working well - thanks Dingo!!
Thanks for the CAB file, Dingo. Will try it out at the next hard reset.
Not sure if its me, but Hotmail from Pocket MSN seems to be playing up now - can anyone else report the same thing? It keeps freezing when I click on it and Pocket Outlook doesn't see the account.
Fin
Yep I have tried the O2 Exec to Exec video dialling. It was nice to try, but wasn't that great. And I think its now 50p per minute, so won't be doing it again in a hurry. :shock:
Cheers
Nasdaq
No apparently until March its charged at the same price as Voice Calls, also can be part of inclusive minutes for voice calls - after that time it'll be 50p as you say.
My mistake, was told differently by a friend. Still won't use it though, sound was delayed and not very clear. :roll:
Cheers
Nasdaq
Glad you find it of use.
The way i do it if i hard reset is after setting up the screen and the O2 stuff is about to install when you get the 3 second countdown i soft reset. This will give you a vanilla install of WM5 on your Universal and none of the Ext ROM will be installed.
This way though you do not get any of the pathces and fixes etc so i selectivly install them from the XDA Exec Ext ROM posted on the xda-dev ftp site
I then install the settings cab i made to enter my O2 Connection settings.
For the most part as described by others above you will probably be best to use corp mode for your initial setup. Then just choose pesonel when you run the CAB i made.
As far as i am aware you can still use this without a hard reset as it only installs the connections app. I have tested on mine and it was ok but would be interested if it works for others.
ashleyhall said:
NO MATE, I think you'll find its BASIC mode as the chap says - Personal will shove all the O2 crap on there, whereas BASIC just puts the GPRS and 3G settings on - just done it and it works fine!!
HOWEVER when I try to start a 3G video call, it states "The 3G network is not available....", I don't quite get this 3G, do I have one connection that is either GPRS or 3G depending on signal, or are there two connections here, if so, how do I use each?
Anyone on O2 managed to get O2 Video Calling to work to another Exec?
Thanks mate!
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3G coverage is still a bit thin with O2. If you look at the icon next to your phone signal strength it should read either G or U. If it is G then you are on their NON 3G network, if it displays U then you are on thei 3G network.
I am in a week 3G area at home and mine swaps between the 2 every few minutes.
Ahhhhh interesting...wonder why they chose 'U' for 3G..doesn't quite compute!
Looking forward to playing with 3G at some stage in the future then!
ashleyhall said:
Ahhhhh interesting...wonder why they chose 'U' for 3G..doesn't quite compute!
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'U' stands for UTMS, which is the system that we call 3G (or 3rd Generation). The 'G' stands for GSM, which is the 2nd generation networks we've all enjoyed using for the last 15 years.
ashleyhall said:
Looking forward to playing with 3G at some stage in the future then!
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I thought it might be fun too, but the truth is that I know hardly anybody with a video phone, and considering how unreliable the 3G coverage is around where I live (Sussex) it's unlikely to be much use anyway. The whole 3G premise is based on a gimmick IMHO rather than a genuine consumer need. Sure, the data rates are faster and in time this will be a good driver for the technology, but then they charge us a fcuking fortune to use it, so only a handful of people bother. Madness.
Video calling works across networks. I have found many of my relatives have 3 3G mobile phones and are able to receive video calls from me (as on Vodafone video calls are free for a short period and on O2 the rate is the same as voice calls). O2 and Vodafone UMTS download speeds are good (coverage in London is resonable and in Berkshire).
not working
have tried this - I cant connect at all - after hard reseting in corporate then running this cab and setting to personal - it tries to dial mobile web but says it cant connect for an unknown reason - any ideas
Vanilla
works ok on vanilla install - it seems since this thread was started ON hav changed some thing but this cab has no problems after vanilla installl only after corporate - I am gonna run the bug fixing cabs etc in the ext rom manually !!!
My GPRS still aint configured correctly - it connects fine but I get no internet access, its as if the proxy is configured wrong?
Is there a cab that puts the correct 3G and GPRS settings onto my phone without any user configuration required? (and without mucking up my system).

Tytn on my T-Mobile account... what do I need to know?

I currently have a Universal and I plan to swap out my T-Mobile usim and put it into my new Tytn when it arrives. Is there anything I need to know?
- Does a standard 3G enabled uSIM work immediately with HSDPA?
- Do T-Mob need to enable/change my account to make use of their HSDPA network (if/when it exists)?
- Do the standard GPRS/3G access point settings work with HSDPA?
- As these can now be unlocked, which ROM is recommended?
Thanks!
by simply swapping sims u should be able to access the 3g services, however you will need to subscribe to their W'n'W pro services if u want to use HSDPA.
hth
Jim
Thanks for that... I don't see W'n'W Pro as an option in the online shop - presumably it will appear when the first HSDPA phones appear...
Got the ORange M3100 today. I've reconfigured it to T-mobile and it seems to be working ok.
I'm connecting via 3g and I'm not incurring any charges. I'm abit disappointed with 3g though. It is a bit faster than GPRS, but its not the Blazing speeds I was expecting.
T-Mobile Web n Walk Pro is a Laptop PCMCIA card option...Web n Walk is the mobile device option...not sure if it covers HSDPA or not though...nothing on their site
QuaCKeReD said:
T-Mobile Web n Walk Pro is a Laptop PCMCIA card option...Web n Walk is the mobile device option...not sure if it covers HSDPA or not though...nothing on their site
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HSDPA should work automatically, only if handset supports it. doesn't matter if you have W'n'W Pro or not.
obviously the device has to support it....my point was, having web n walk pro (PCMCIA option) wouldnt make a difference with a mobile device...haveing web n walk (standard) would.
Question is, I suppose, does T-Mobule UK have this network type or not?
obviously the device has to support it....my point was, having web n walk pro (PCMCIA option) wouldnt make a difference with a mobile device...haveing web n walk (standard) would.
Question is, I suppose, does T-Mobule UK have this network type or not?
QuaCKeReD said:
obviously the device has to support it....my point was, having web n walk pro (PCMCIA option) wouldnt make a difference with a mobile device...haveing web n walk (standard) would.
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what is the difference with w'n'w std then? for example, if you have w'n'w std in your TyTN, which supports HSDPA, you will be able to achieve HSDPA speeds. same thing with w'n'w pro. question is, does your local 3G base station support HSDPA or not?
QuaCKeReD said:
Question is, I suppose, does T-Mobule UK have this network type or not?
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yes, they have. but as i said - not every 3G base station may have HSDPA support...
Web n Walk Standard - account option for mobile devices. Added onto account linked to a single SIM.
Web n Walk Pro - PCMCIA card to put into a laptop, no SIM. Comes with 1 year WiFi access on T-Mobile hotspots.
Bit hard to fit a PCMCIA card into a device thats about same size :lol:
QuaCKeReD said:
Web n Walk Standard - account option for mobile devices. Added onto account linked to a single SIM.
Web n Walk Pro - PCMCIA card to put into a laptop, no SIM. Comes with 1 year WiFi access on T-Mobile hotspots.
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bzzzt, wrong! there IS as SIM in PCMCIA datacard.
Sighhhhhhhhh........The Web n Walk Pro is designed for and marketed for LAPTOPS not Windows Mobile Devices.
...of course the PCMCIA has to have a 'sim' capability else how would it work on a frigging SIM based network!!! the question was about the different services...not the technical aspects relating to each...when ya finished being picky...or do you get ya kicks that way :roll:
QuaCKeReD said:
Sighhhhhhhhh........The Web n Walk Pro is designed for and marketed for LAPTOPS not Windows Mobile Devices.
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i know that.
QuaCKeReD said:
...of course the PCMCIA has to have a 'sim' capability else how would it work on a frigging SIM based network!!! the question was about the different services...not the technical aspects relating to each...when ya finished being picky...or do you get ya kicks that way :roll:
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i'm not being picky, just trying to say, that it doesn't matter if you have w'n'w std or pro - HSDPA will work on both, if you have capable device and you are HSDPA network coverage. it will even work without w'n'w, on standard data rates.
i'm not sure if we understood each other right in that matter.
I refer you to the starting post in this thread...always helps to read what the question was :wink:
you can get the web and walk pro simonly option @ £10 per month, its not on there site, you have to call up, i will be getting this option added to a flex-t plan when the vario 2 finally appeares on t-mob!
living in side the m25 should see a fair bit of the full 1.8meg conection!
Actually web 'n walk is UMTS only and web 'n walk pro allows HSDPA where available.
You will not get HSDPA on the standard package regardless of whether your device supports it.
Standard is £7.50 per month
Pro is £10 per month (inc vat)
Same rules apply for both re VOIP, IM etc EXCEPT with Pro you can use your phone as a high speed modem.
Fair usage of 2gb per month applies to both.
This is obviously really aimed at the laptop user with a pcmcia card which is supplied, but the cost is £17.50 a month. The £10 is a concession to phone users as they dont have to supply any hardware.
Rob
(My upgrade to Pro starts on Monday . . .)
Yep - I've upgraded to a Web'n'Walk Pro addon at £10/month.
There are, according to an unusually useful telephone support person, three advantages:
1. HSDPA support.
2. The terms and conditions allow for the device to be used as a modem.
3. The terms and conditions allow video/audio streaming, P2P etc. They only prohibit VOIP and IM, whereas the 'standard' package only allows web and email, prohibiting everything else.
The disadvantages are:
1. It costs a little more.
2. It has a 2GB fair usage policy (the standard package has none, although I doubt it's even possible to use 2GB using only email and web).
battletank said:
2. It has a 2GB fair usage policy (the standard package has none, although I doubt it's even possible to use 2GB using only email and web).
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i was under the understanding even £7.50 w&w was 2gb fair useage, but i cant be arsed to trawl through the t-mob t&c's on there website.
battletank said:
Yep - I've upgraded to a Web'n'Walk Pro addon at £10/month.
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is it possible to upgrade to pro if you have standard option already with Flext or Relax?
battletank said:
2. It has a 2GB fair usage policy (the standard package has none, although I doubt it's even possible to use 2GB using only email and web).
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T/C:
T-Mobile defines fair use as total UK data use (both sent and received) of up to 2GB per month. T-Mobile may contact customers who exceed this volume of data in two (or more) consecutive months in any six month period to ask them to reduce their usage. If usage is not reduced, notice may be given, after which network protection controls may be applied which will result in a reduced speed of transmission.
as far as i understand, T-Mobile is quite liberal with this allowance. only if you'll exceed allowance in two consecutive months, they MAY ask you to reduce usage, and then transmission speed MAY by applied. basically, it's just for T-Mobile's peace of mind, that w'n'w will not be 'overused' by massive downloaders. so, when you'll use, say 2.5 GB per month, T-Mobile will not do any trouble, however if you reach amounts like 5 GB and more - then you may get transmission speed reduced.
is it possible to upgrade to pro if you have standard option already with Flext or Relax?
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Yes, thats what I did, Im on a flext tariff. For some reason, it had to wait to the beginning of my next billing month, couldnt just be switched on then and there.
Rob

Internet connection - T-Mobile MDA Vatio II

Hi all,
I've been having problems connecting to the internet now for a few weeks. Only one in 10 connections at best. 'Locating', 'Page Not Found' errors, no email.
I've read some of the posts on here about HSPDA, so I called T-Mobile to enable it, but they said that my price plan would have to increase. I think I'm on one of the lowest, but I didn't know there was extra costs for 'Walk 'n' Web'.
We went through some changes, but it didn't make my difference to my connections.
Has anyone any advice about either connections, or the HSPDA price plan issue? Are you paying the 'normal' price plan but are able to connect to HSPDA?
Thanks guys,
Ratzz
Ratzz,
Your not alone here, i have recently moved to T-Mobile and for the first week all was fine, both gprs and HSDPA were working fine, the later being very quick indeed for a mobile device.
This week has been a different story all together, since saturday morning my internet access has been very patchy, the same 'Locating', 'Page Not Found' errors that you are seeing. I can't offer any explanation, just sympathy and would love to get to the bottom of it myself.
Here's hoping.
scifi
For the past 3 weeks I have been using my Vario II as a usb modem and had no problems at all HSDPA working great as for price plan I have the basic web n walk, it is pot luck who you speak to at CS but keep calling and you will get HSDPA enabled once spoke to the right person, ask to be put through to technical.
is HSDPA the same as 3g or different? i'm on vodafone, will i need to get them to "turn hsdpa on" or is it on by default?
Check out the hermes forum over at www.modaco.com there is some indication this this is caused by a the T-Mobile DNS and T-Mobile transparent proxy servers being able to cope with the demand.
I had the same problem and have pretty much eliminated the delays by changing the DNS servers from being server assigned to 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 as many on modaco have done.
SimonTALM said:
Check out the hermes forum over at www.modaco.com there is some indication this this is caused by a the T-Mobile DNS and T-Mobile transparent proxy servers being able to cope with the demand.
I had the same problem and have pretty much eliminated the delays by changing the DNS servers from being server assigned to 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 as many on modaco have done.
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Tried that Simon ... same problems.
There is a link below which I found on a thread that worked ok for someone -- but again this didn't work for me.
http://www.manuals.t-mobile.co.uk/maillink.asp?a=3&wm=1a1677a401690a128256
ok, i seem to have found a combination that works for me at least.
I followed the steps on the MoDaCo thread above but used the following addresses.
DNS : 158.43.240.4
Alt DNS : 62.241.160.200
In the proxy settings, tick both "This network connects to the Internet" & This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet" and then click advanced. Tap the HTTP (type) and enter 149.254.201.132 port 8080 and click ok. This works great for me both on gsm (gprs) & HSDPA (UMTS).
Hope this works for you guys too.
Regards.
HSDPA
Hi
I use my Vario II on the train with a laptop over bluetooth everyday between stirling and edinburgh. The coverage is mostly 3G (Linlithgow being the exception), and I get one black-spot just south of linlithgow.
The situation with the original t-mob rom was dire. I am now using the test AKU3.3 rom with radio 1.27 and its much better. Bluetooth PAN seems more reliable than the old dial-up networking.
On my laptop, I have changed the DNS settings for the PAN to non t-mob ones. I was having the same issues everyone else reports with failed resolutions.
Some days it works superbly, some days, its sh1te. This is imho, simply issues at t-mobile. I travel at the same times on each day, so I dont see that the proxy can be loaded more so one day than the next.
I also find that with HSDPA switched off, things are far more reliable than with it on. Having said that, some days I get a good HSDPA connection all the way.
What I could do with is a cacheing DNS server running locally on the laptop that will override the TTL (time to live) for the domains that it caches. I would have installed bind, but its a beast (I use it at home)... Anyone know of a mini DNS server that would suit my needs? Currently I have the sites that I use regularly shoved in a hosts file!
Nigel
I'm having exactly the same problem, had put it down to a problem with my radio ROM, but from reading this thread it looks like a t-mobile problem, so hopefully it will sort itself in due course. In the mean time I'll have a look at changing those settings................cheers.
se4me said:
For the past 3 weeks I have been using my Vario II as a usb modem and had no problems at all HSDPA working great as for price plan I have the basic web n walk, it is pot luck who you speak to at CS but keep calling and you will get HSDPA enabled once spoke to the right person, ask to be put through to technical.
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Hi
I use USB instead of bluetooth where convenient from a laptop. Would you care to do a test @ http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html from your laptop while on HSDPA via USB ???
I get about 550K down and 330K up which although pretty good is way off the headline figures! Wondered if my tests were about the same as yours?
Nigel
HSDPA
Hi all,
Following on from my original message, I called T-Mobile today and insisted they enable HSDPA on my line for the ongoing internet problems.
They did it (I'm on the BASIC W&W), and within 10 minutes all my problems were solved.
Ratzz
Excellent news - Let's just hope it stays that way. If not give the DNS server settings a try.
BTW what sort of download speeds are you getting? I use http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1 and I tend to get a pretty constant 650kbps down and 350kbps up.
I have heard people getting in 750kbps upto over 1Mbps but not something I've ever managed and definately have HSPDA enabled on the phone and network.
enabling hsdpa seems to have fixed all my problems too.
Have seen speed upto 800 kbps so far.
T-Mobile UK Data
Anyone else got anything other than the following showing on their 'my t-mobile' page? You'll find it under 'Mobile Phone Summary-->View Or Modify Features Of Your Plan' :-
WAP Call On
VoiceMail On
SMS Text Messaging On
Call Waiting On
Call Hold On
Call Forward to VoiceMail On
GPRS On
Web & Wap 384k Up/2048 Down On Appearently this is the HSDPA setting
International & Premium Calls On
Voice & Data Roaming On
Picture Messaging On
3G (UMTS) Service On
Mobile email Off
Additionally in another section 'Mobile Phone Summary-->Additional Allowances And Services' I have the following:-
18 Month Upgrade Flag £0.00
Capped Data Rate £0.00
Remove Content Lock £0.00
Video Calling £0.00
£5 Go Direct Discount £0.00
I am wondering what the 'Capped Data Rate' is ?? Its available as a 'service' that can be added as well, but there is no way to remove it. Anyone else got the same showing on their 'my t-mobile' page ??
Nigel
If I remember correctly I have the option to add Capped Data Rate at no extra cost but it isn't applied to my account. I haven't applied it as I don't like the sound of somthing that is "Capped" - I'd love to find out what it is.
What WnW package are you on? I have the WnW Plus (so that I can legitimately use my VarioII as a modem for my laptop and not fear huge bills).
Hi
I am also on web and walk plus
Nigel
'Capped Data Rate'
is for if you dont have web n walk, it means your data carges are capped at £1 a day (midnight til midnight)

Free EDGE? ... I got it!

I discovered something ... thought I'd share to see if anyone has any insight.
First off, I do NOT have a data plan with t-mobile. I am out of contract, and have a family plan. No data whatsoever.
I was messing around with Map4PDA (great app!), and since I did not have any WiFi or LAN connection, it opened EDGE to pull map data.
At first, I freaked, and thought I would get some hefty bill in the mail from t-mobile. So, I called t-mobile customer care, and asked the girl how much I would get charged. She said she thought they had a flat rate for data xfer out of a data plan, but she would have to check. She consulted her manager (who didn't know) and 5 other techs. Finally, she found some internal note about it. T-mobile's policy:
If you do not have a data plan, and are able to connect to EDGE, you will not be charged. However, the connection is a fluke, and you will be cut-off shortly thereafter.
That is not the case with me.
I am able to connect, surf the net, download map data, etc. I don't get cut off. I don't want to ruin a good thing (maybe posting this will ruin it?), so I am going to passively test my free EDGE connection over the next couple of weeks, and report back here.
Here is my phone/ROM setup:
I have a t-mobile MDA (HTC Wizard). I flashed it with Faria's AKU 3.3-8mb ROM, and set my t-mobile connection to "T-Mobile WAP". (The other option was "T-Mobile VPN". Not sure what the difference is ...? I know VPN = virtual private network, and WAP generally stands for Wide Area Protocol. Not sure how this relates to cell service though ...)
So, with that setup, I have full access to EDGE on T-Mobile, without a price.
I hope it will last.
Another minor detail: I am in the United States. (I read on another post about t-mobile elsewhere in the world)
swingheim said:
. . and WAP generally stands for Wide Area Protocol. Not sure how this relates to cell service though ...)
So, with that setup, I have full access to EDGE on T-Mobile, without a price.
I hope it will last.
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Just thought I should point out WAP stands for wireless application protocol.
Sorry for being pedantic.
WAP on Wikipedia
Its all good.
This thread can be closed ... since I found a similar thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288844
Maybe you should check out Howard Forums
http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=324
This is a very well know issue which has been going on for months. Nothing new here. It will closed though.
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That link from swingheim is my. I found out that sometimes it will stop working but later it will work. and you can do this with any phone(needs opera mini to work) and even with a prepaid sim card.
Thread closed for reasons given above - existing thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288844
Mike

at&t killed my AT&T 3G service!

As I can't seem to find ANY help on the Cingular forums I figured I would see if anyone here knows whats going on or if there is anyway to get my phone working again.
Basically it all boils down to this..
I don't get voice or data when a 3G network is available. It will connect, then say "No Service" moments later.
The phone works fine when no 3G network is avalable.
Again, everything was working great on the 3G network (Voice and Data) until Sunday, May 20th. Everyone I have talked to keep saying there where no changes.. but there was.
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If you feel so inclined to help me out or want more of the story and details. You can view the Cingular forum post here: http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=41937
I am not the only one with this problem but I sure feel like the only one.
Thanks
They've been changing the cell sites from Cingular to AT&T; given the old SIM and their complete disdain for Blue customers, I'd bet that's the problem.. Just go on the Smartphone Data plan for $20 and you'll save $5/mo.
The only Data plan I can get is mMode, which is great because I get it at $24.99 for Unlimited use.
The problem is I get "No Service" (Voice + Data) on the phone when in a 3G enabled area.
I'm a "blue" sim holder on a HTC branded TyTN with a legacy mmode unlimited plan (out of contract) running Dutty Premium in downtown Chicago and I've got 3G as we speak from a tower calling itself AT&T. Moreover my connection is not using the wap or ip settings: that is I have created a connection that has all the fields (except for the connection name) blank. Granted I can't access the oh so important Cingular video but that stuff is crap anyway (highlights of the Sopranos...wowwee). What I can do is VPN (Cisco IPSec and Windows PPTP), Remote Desktop, pull email, full browsing on PIE or Opera and 128 kbit MP3 streaming.
Occasionally I have had to reset my device (mostly since upgrading from 1.38) because I have lost all connectivity (phone and data) despite showing 2 or 3 bars of signal. My suggestion: create a new connection that's blank and but first try a reset (if you haven't already). You might want to think about trying a new Radio ROM as well.
Thanks! Glad to hear it is working for you. (Means it should be for me!)
My towers still however are "Cingular". But of course that shouldn't matter at all.
I guess I could try a custom ROM and do the update to WM6. ( If I can't get anywhere with tech support or customer service. They are supposed to be calling me back later today.)
Just using the latest official at&t ROM currently.
They just called me back assuring me it should be working and that they have a case open. The engineer I was talking with said that both he and his supervisor plan on watching as case they are curious about the outcome as well.
At least I feel better now knowing that it "should" be working for sure.
It's also nice to hear that upper management in the engineering department as well as tech support want to see what happens as well.

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