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Bluetooth car kit

Hi chaps,
Ive got a brand new XDA2 2 weeks ago and I bought a Bluetooth GPS receiver from these guys:
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI...ex_gensales&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50
Works perfectly without patching, hotwiring or standing on my head - NICE 1!
My question is, can anyone recommend an incar bluetooth handsfree kit rather than headset that works with the xda2???
And is it true that I can run 2 bluetooth devices at the same time if I patch my xda with the now world famous bluetooth patch featured on this forum?
Thanks guys...
Darren

I am running tomtom 2 with the 2.09 gps driver and also a bluetooth headset at the same time without any patch.

ahhhhhh....
so you *can* run more than one device now *without* patching hhhmmmm.... ahhhh... cool, what model is your headset? I really want a bluetooth car kit which detects the phone and takes control when i get into the car but it'll be good to know a headset that definatly works.
Thanks man

I have a sony-ericsson hbh-200 which works ok but only for answering the phone, also it needed rebonding many times. I am now using a Skypower EZ232 ez clip which works the same but re-connects after going out of range, I am as I type, linked via activesync over bluetooth to my pc, I have internet working on the xda2, my bluetooth headset is also working and I also have tomtom2 working using gpsmart gps bluetooth receiver, so more than one device is definitely ok without any patches.

top BT Carkit: Parrot CK2000 or later
I use these fix built in BT-carkit. it makes a good word with the htcII

nice one
Thanks guys.......
Darren

Nokia CK 1-W doesn't work
I've tried the Nokia CK 1-W carkit, but this carkit doesn't work properly with the MDA II. Nokia only supports the handsfree profile and the MDA II is only supporting the headset profile.
The headset profile has got less features than the handsfree profile. I know that Sony Ericsson and Parrot supports both profiles. When you want to have supported all handsfree features by your carkit you need the handsfree profile!
Does anybody knows an update to fix this problem?

Best setup for using both a carkit and GPS Nvigation?!

I am soon to buy the Magician in one of it's many forms. However noe thing i have been woundering is how am i am going to achieve the in-car setup i desire. Basically I need both a carkit (conversation through car stereo speakers etc) and i also want to run GPS navigation on the Magician. First of all is this possible? What happens if i am using the GPS and i recieve a call? Also what hardware are people using to achieve this as i assume i can't use both a bluetooth carkit and a bluetooth GPS reciever?! any hlp is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom

Hi Tom,
I've got an iMate Jam & recently installed a Parrot BTluetooth CK3300 GPS Car Kit into my 1999 RAV4. The installation was pretty straight forward for cars with ISO connection, simply put in the mic, GPS ant & control display, plug into the car harness & HiFi & off you go. The GPS part of the kit is simply & effective, I use Tom Tom Navigator 5 & it's pretty faultless, obtaining a fix in seconds. Here's the bad part, the call quality through the kit using the Jam is AWFUL. Making and receiving calls is accompanied by a loud, high pitched warbling sound which eventually subsides, but is replaced by so much interference that the call is unworkable. I know it's not the kit because my wife's SE T68i works flawlessly. Everything else about the setup works perfectly (pairing muting, upgrading via BT etc etc). This a MAJOR problem which I have sent on to Parrot & am waiting for a reply. I understand they are pretty good at customer enquiries and expect them to come back to me pretty soon. I'll post again when I hear something. Despite all the bad press the Jam gets I think it's the best one I've owned so far (I'm on my 5th) and with the right software is excellent, but the choice of car kit is essential, until these problems are ironed out I wouldn't recommend using the PDA with a BT carkit.

Apart from the poor audio, how does it work when you are being navigated by TomTom and you receive a call? Does TomTom stop talking to you? Does the display show who's calling and then go back to tomtom display etc?

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

so it is possible then to have two bluetooth connections running at the same time? ie. i can use a bluetooth GPS reciever such as the one that is supplied with tom tom and also use any bluetooth carkit at the same time? and this will not cause any problems even if i am making a call and have the GPS running?! If so then i will probably just buy the Tom Tom 5 bluetooth kit and get something like a parrot CK3000? would this setup work?
thanks for everyones help,
Tom

It should work. Mine does. See above. Bluetooth GPS uses a serial profile, bluetooth headset uses a headset profile. No problem to use them both at the same time.
Andre

I used my Jam as phone, mp3 player and GPS all at the same time.
1. MP3 thru my car's aux input
2. GPS thru aux input:
hardware: Tomtom BT receiver
Software: Routis 2, TomTom USA 2004 (can open both if U use GPSGate)
3. Phone thru BT headset or aux input
To answer yr question:
Since I can use both BT GPS and BT headset together. I don't think it's a problem for both BT carkit and BT GPS to works.
Phone call always get highest prioity, all other apps (GPS software, mp3 player) will be mute until U finished yr call.
Phone call is not a problem (see above) but dialing is a big trouble since no voice calling built-in. Third partner software like intellidialer and voice commander (from MS or Cyberon) helps a bit

Ive also got my jam working fine incar. I use a socket bluetooth gps unit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717 with tomtom 5 then I have a SE HBH-600 Akono Bluetooth Headset for calls both work together! When I have a incoming call it mutes tomtom and displays the normal caller id app on top, answering the call (via the green hardware button) results in my jam going to the phone app totally and leaving tomtom minimized in the background. As soon as the call ends tomtom jumps back to the foreground, it all works very well in my opinion. Ive also assigned the camera button to switch me back to the today screen so I can launch any app (with tomtom still running in the background) via a icon.

Bluetooth headset and GPS

Hi all,
Just a quick (and probably stupid) question. I have the O2 mini and find the loudspeaker rather poor. When using the GPS it is often hard to hear the instructions. Is it possible to send the audio to a bluetooth headset, or even a bluetooth car kit.
I am new to all this so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Adam

Adam,
if you are connecting the GPS via BT, it is not possible in the first place to connect a second device in parallel. Unfortunately you can have just one BT connection at a time.
Even with a cable connected GPS it won't work, because it is not possible to use the BT handset as a audio device.
So, no, what you are trying to do is most probable not possible. I am doing it like that, that I use a BT GPS receiver and a cable headset if I do not understand the voices correctly. This way, you get the instructions and you can even make a call without using the loudspeaker.
rgds
Marco

Thanks for the advice marco. Much appreciated. Will just have to stick with the cable headset.

Bluetooth and GPS and Headset can work
Have to disagree with Marco99. I use a Navman 4420 Bluetooth GPS unit and an O2 Bluetooth headset with my I-mate PDA2K (1.40 ROM 1.12 Radio). I use Destinator Software (The Navman SmartST is better at finding the optimum route, but it is buggy and always seems to need upgrading to use the latest ROM).
Anyway, I frequently have both devices paired.
Last weekend coming back from SA to Vic I had the Destinator humming along, and a phone call comes in. The phone screen pops up and I answer the phone using the headset button. I minimise the phone screen, and the Destinator screen re-emerges, still tracking nicely along the Glenelg Highway. You lose the Destinator voice prompts during the phone call, but not the GPS signals, nor the visual prompts.
After hanging up, again using the headset button, the Destinator voice prompts start again and away you go.
I have the HQ audio patch and a HP BT Headset. I must try that sometime with the Destinator. However, I do agree that you can't listen to the navigation software through the headset and answer the phone, only one audio connection can be made via Bluetooth.
Now, if they can fix the "Line of Sight only" B/T headset bug...

Can do BT GPS + Headset at the same time
Just to confirm, I have had my Tomtom v5 Bluetooth GPS & my cheap-n-cheerful "Abe" Bluetooth headset working concurrently. Tomtom mutes when the phone receives/makes a call, but otherwise all is working together 100%, you can make & receive phone calls OK.
Can also confirm this works with non-Tomtom BT GPS (Globalsat model).
Joe

Re: Can do BT GPS + Headset at the same time
joe2316 said:
Just to confirm, I have had my Tomtom v5 Bluetooth GPS & my cheap-n-cheerful "Abe" Bluetooth headset working concurrently. Tomtom mutes when the phone receives/makes a call, but otherwise all is working together 100%, you can make & receive phone calls OK.
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Just to ensure:
You didn't get the voice commands out of tomtom in your bluetooth headset, or?
Stefan

Tomtom5 & BT headset
No Stefan, Tomtom displays a "Mute" icon, so no sounds come from it. Only the voice call is transmitted to the headset
Joe

Re: Tomtom5 & BT headset
joe2316 said:
No Stefan, Tomtom displays a "Mute" icon, so no sounds come from it. Only the voice call is transmitted to the headset
Joe
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I can confirm that 100% :roll:

Re: Bluetooth and GPS and Headset can work
Camstech said:
Have to disagree with Marco99.
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I have to agree with camstech! I was not aware that this really is working, did not believe it and just tried it. And it works exactly as described. So, one new thing learned. As the protocol does not explain the behavior, it looks like the (otherwise crappy) bluetooth stack is quite inteligent here, and switches between different devices, so it looks both work in parallel. So, during my next roadtrip I can bring along my BT headset!
Anyway, unfortunately that does not solve your problem, Adam, as it is not possible to redirect the Navigation voice to your bluetooth headset, as long as the device (BT stack) does not support the appropriate BT profile.
regards
marco
EDIT: just checked the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth. I must have dreamt about the single point connection with BT. Looks like a BT net (called piconet) can contain up to 8 devices, where one is working as master with up to 7 slaves. The details can be found in wikipedia. Maybe there is just connection per profile but I dont know for sure. Maybe there is a bluetooth expert here in the forum that could enlighten us. And possibly maybe, this is way to technical and all of you guys fall asleep during the first pragraph of my posting anyway ...

Bluetooth Stereo Headset AND Bluetooth GPS

Hello!
I´ve just finished upgrading my XDA mini to the german TMobile ROM-Version 1.13(with BlackBerry Extensions) and i´ve installed the Bluetooth Patch from this Forum. Now i want to use my new Moto HT820 Bluetooth Stereo Headset in combination with my Bluetooth GPS Reciever. If i use each device on it´s own there are no Problems, but if i use them TOGETHER none of them works....
Can anybody help...?
Thanks,
Thomas

Same problem here, Parrot CK3100 and a GPS. When on the phone, quality of conversation is not 100%, also GPS falls behind.
Any solutions? Perhaps another BT stack ? Or maybe PocketBT Tools is the solution?

Same problem Here!
GPS is working, Bleutooth Heatset too but not in the same time...
Tomtom5.21
Holux 230
motorola H500
Magician 1.12
Thanks for ur help

Same problem Here!
GPS is working, Bleutooth Heatset too but not in the same time...
Tomtom5.21
Holux 230
motorola H500
Magician 1.12
Thanks for ur help

please help with my dopod 828
Hi, I own a Dopod 828 which is very similar to O2 mini or dopod 818. Can anyone advise or direct me to the patch to allow for Stereo BT to listen to MP3 ,etc.. Kindly advise and thx ... mhwlee

Uiligheid said:
Same problem here, Parrot CK3100 and a GPS. When on the phone, quality of conversation is not 100%, also GPS falls behind.
Any solutions? Perhaps another BT stack ? Or maybe PocketBT Tools is the solution?
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same problem here, parrot ck 3100 sounds bad when navigating with tomtom gps. i guess the different BT signals get in eachother's way ....

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was always under the impression that Bluetooth will only work with one device at a time due to the fact it creates an exclusive pairing session each time it connects.

Please Help US!!!!!!!
No one seams to be interested to help US!!!
Problem to use GPS and headset at the same Time!!!
Please help!!!
Thanking you in advance

maybe no one has the same problem anyways ... when i navigate with tomtom the parrot still sounds like crap, when i turn the bleutooth gps reciever off it sound good .. anybody?

i am considering buying a bluetooth headset but....any luck by now with using BT headset and BT gps at the same time?
or is it just not possible with this phone?

havent tried this since i got my BT headphones but i wouldnt think it is possible given i cant run headphones and use some heavy applications too sucessfully.
plus im sure tomtom and streaming would both want to use similar ports

anyone else knows if it is possible to use bluetooth headset and gps at the same time?
And does the voice from tomtom come through the headset or not?
(i prefer not)

it works for me
I'm using xda mini with plantronics 320 bluetooth headset, a noname gps receiver and igo europe as navigation software. Of course they work one at the time so when the phone rings gps connection is lost but when I finish the call gps connection is restored. The sound of the headset is the same when i'm not in range of gps receiver.
I did a big mistake when I installed a different bluetooth stack hoping that it might help(ROM 1.12.00WWE). I was wrong. I had to hard reset the phone and since then everything is just fine (about 2 months).

ok i finally got around to testing this, im using tomtom 6 with the maps located on my storage card. also using some mp3 i had on my storage card.
started music streaming to bluetooth HT820 headset, running ok. started tomtom up paused into tomtom splash screen (i thought oh ho this aint going to work too good) sure enough once the tomtom maps kicked in the gps and the headset stopped working (tomtom froze up).
as far as i could tell it wasnt that they wouldnt both run but they was both working from storage card and needed a high level of access to do it.
so in a nutshell i dont think this would be possible, this is using a 400 htz cpu and 128 memory

Bluetooth hands-free and GPS at the same time

OK, I've never used BT but am thinking about getting a BT hands-free kit, possibly the Parrot CK3100
http://www.scancom.co.uk/product.php/45/620//c66c440609f0edcbea5715dd8b464692
http://www.carcommunications.co.uk/...uct_reviews_info&products_id=160&reviews_id=4
Will this product work with an MDA Pro as a speakerphone through the car speakers? What about for playing MP3 files? Mono or stereo?
Also, if I later retire my old XDA 1 from TomTom duties and get a BT GPS unit for the MDA Pro, will it work at the same time as the BT parrot CK3100?
Also, I assume the CK100 is powered by the car: how do you cope with powering GPS and Universal devices? Run off the battery or multiple cigar lighter attachments?

This can help you take the right decision
http://www.lordpercy.com/tomtom_go_500.htm

Sounds like an expensive way of getting tinny sounds through a small speaker to me. I already have bought TomTom 5 and use it on my old XDA 1 with a wired GPS unit. What I want is to use my MDA Pro as an mp3 player and telephone through the car speakers and expect one day to get a BT GPS unit and use the Pro for Tomtom instead of the XDA 1, but I'm just wondering about the feasibility of such an idea.

What I have is a similar set up but I guess it should work for you.
I am currently running my Universal with a BT headset and a BT GPS receiver. I use the headset to hear all the commands for turning by the navigation software and so far it works great.

That's great, Vapor, thanks. I'll see if a vendor can help with compatibility then.

I have o2 MiniS paired with a Parrot CK3100. It works fine. The quality of the sound is very good as it uses the car system.
The Parrot can be set up to sync with up to 5 separate bluetooth devices. If you want GPS there is the Parrot LS3400 GPS which does everything.
I have not tried it playing MP3.
The fixing costs are exorbitant and the unit can be bought for around £100 (less for 3100) and fit it yourself it is very simple. Just two link cables for speakers and power plus install dashboard unit and microphone.

vapor said:
What I have is a similar set up but I guess it should work for you.
I am currently running my Universal with a BT headset and a BT GPS receiver. I use the headset to hear all the commands for turning by the navigation software and so far it works great.
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Vapor, I use a Qtek 2020 (Himalaya) with a wired GPS and a Midland BT Intercom. I get the sound from the phone, no problem, but I cannot receive any sound from the Tom Tom Navigator 5. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Javiersen

well I am not too sure about the other set ups but what i did to my universal was to disable the voice command from launching when i pressed the button on my headset. there's a reg hack for it somewhere on this forum about it.
once the buttonn is pressed, it opens the audio gateway (though in mono) between my phone and the headset and every sound from the phone (including the clicks) gets played to the headset.