Bluetooth hands-free and GPS at the same time - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

OK, I've never used BT but am thinking about getting a BT hands-free kit, possibly the Parrot CK3100
http://www.scancom.co.uk/product.php/45/620//c66c440609f0edcbea5715dd8b464692
http://www.carcommunications.co.uk/...uct_reviews_info&products_id=160&reviews_id=4
Will this product work with an MDA Pro as a speakerphone through the car speakers? What about for playing MP3 files? Mono or stereo?
Also, if I later retire my old XDA 1 from TomTom duties and get a BT GPS unit for the MDA Pro, will it work at the same time as the BT parrot CK3100?
Also, I assume the CK100 is powered by the car: how do you cope with powering GPS and Universal devices? Run off the battery or multiple cigar lighter attachments?

This can help you take the right decision
http://www.lordpercy.com/tomtom_go_500.htm

Sounds like an expensive way of getting tinny sounds through a small speaker to me. I already have bought TomTom 5 and use it on my old XDA 1 with a wired GPS unit. What I want is to use my MDA Pro as an mp3 player and telephone through the car speakers and expect one day to get a BT GPS unit and use the Pro for Tomtom instead of the XDA 1, but I'm just wondering about the feasibility of such an idea.

What I have is a similar set up but I guess it should work for you.
I am currently running my Universal with a BT headset and a BT GPS receiver. I use the headset to hear all the commands for turning by the navigation software and so far it works great.

That's great, Vapor, thanks. I'll see if a vendor can help with compatibility then.

I have o2 MiniS paired with a Parrot CK3100. It works fine. The quality of the sound is very good as it uses the car system.
The Parrot can be set up to sync with up to 5 separate bluetooth devices. If you want GPS there is the Parrot LS3400 GPS which does everything.
I have not tried it playing MP3.
The fixing costs are exorbitant and the unit can be bought for around £100 (less for 3100) and fit it yourself it is very simple. Just two link cables for speakers and power plus install dashboard unit and microphone.

vapor said:
What I have is a similar set up but I guess it should work for you.
I am currently running my Universal with a BT headset and a BT GPS receiver. I use the headset to hear all the commands for turning by the navigation software and so far it works great.
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Vapor, I use a Qtek 2020 (Himalaya) with a wired GPS and a Midland BT Intercom. I get the sound from the phone, no problem, but I cannot receive any sound from the Tom Tom Navigator 5. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Javiersen

well I am not too sure about the other set ups but what i did to my universal was to disable the voice command from launching when i pressed the button on my headset. there's a reg hack for it somewhere on this forum about it.
once the buttonn is pressed, it opens the audio gateway (though in mono) between my phone and the headset and every sound from the phone (including the clicks) gets played to the headset.

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Bluetooth car kit

Hi chaps,
Ive got a brand new XDA2 2 weeks ago and I bought a Bluetooth GPS receiver from these guys:
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI...ex_gensales&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50
Works perfectly without patching, hotwiring or standing on my head - NICE 1!
My question is, can anyone recommend an incar bluetooth handsfree kit rather than headset that works with the xda2???
And is it true that I can run 2 bluetooth devices at the same time if I patch my xda with the now world famous bluetooth patch featured on this forum?
Thanks guys...
Darren
I am running tomtom 2 with the 2.09 gps driver and also a bluetooth headset at the same time without any patch.
ahhhhhh....
so you *can* run more than one device now *without* patching hhhmmmm.... ahhhh... cool, what model is your headset? I really want a bluetooth car kit which detects the phone and takes control when i get into the car but it'll be good to know a headset that definatly works.
Thanks man
I have a sony-ericsson hbh-200 which works ok but only for answering the phone, also it needed rebonding many times. I am now using a Skypower EZ232 ez clip which works the same but re-connects after going out of range, I am as I type, linked via activesync over bluetooth to my pc, I have internet working on the xda2, my bluetooth headset is also working and I also have tomtom2 working using gpsmart gps bluetooth receiver, so more than one device is definitely ok without any patches.
top BT Carkit: Parrot CK2000 or later
I use these fix built in BT-carkit. it makes a good word with the htcII
nice one
Thanks guys.......
Darren
Nokia CK 1-W doesn't work
I've tried the Nokia CK 1-W carkit, but this carkit doesn't work properly with the MDA II. Nokia only supports the handsfree profile and the MDA II is only supporting the headset profile.
The headset profile has got less features than the handsfree profile. I know that Sony Ericsson and Parrot supports both profiles. When you want to have supported all handsfree features by your carkit you need the handsfree profile!
Does anybody knows an update to fix this problem?

Best setup for using both a carkit and GPS Nvigation?!

I am soon to buy the Magician in one of it's many forms. However noe thing i have been woundering is how am i am going to achieve the in-car setup i desire. Basically I need both a carkit (conversation through car stereo speakers etc) and i also want to run GPS navigation on the Magician. First of all is this possible? What happens if i am using the GPS and i recieve a call? Also what hardware are people using to achieve this as i assume i can't use both a bluetooth carkit and a bluetooth GPS reciever?! any hlp is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
Hi Tom,
I've got an iMate Jam & recently installed a Parrot BTluetooth CK3300 GPS Car Kit into my 1999 RAV4. The installation was pretty straight forward for cars with ISO connection, simply put in the mic, GPS ant & control display, plug into the car harness & HiFi & off you go. The GPS part of the kit is simply & effective, I use Tom Tom Navigator 5 & it's pretty faultless, obtaining a fix in seconds. Here's the bad part, the call quality through the kit using the Jam is AWFUL. Making and receiving calls is accompanied by a loud, high pitched warbling sound which eventually subsides, but is replaced by so much interference that the call is unworkable. I know it's not the kit because my wife's SE T68i works flawlessly. Everything else about the setup works perfectly (pairing muting, upgrading via BT etc etc). This a MAJOR problem which I have sent on to Parrot & am waiting for a reply. I understand they are pretty good at customer enquiries and expect them to come back to me pretty soon. I'll post again when I hear something. Despite all the bad press the Jam gets I think it's the best one I've owned so far (I'm on my 5th) and with the right software is excellent, but the choice of car kit is essential, until these problems are ironed out I wouldn't recommend using the PDA with a BT carkit.
Apart from the poor audio, how does it work when you are being navigated by TomTom and you receive a call? Does TomTom stop talking to you? Does the display show who's calling and then go back to tomtom display etc?
Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre
Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre
so it is possible then to have two bluetooth connections running at the same time? ie. i can use a bluetooth GPS reciever such as the one that is supplied with tom tom and also use any bluetooth carkit at the same time? and this will not cause any problems even if i am making a call and have the GPS running?! If so then i will probably just buy the Tom Tom 5 bluetooth kit and get something like a parrot CK3000? would this setup work?
thanks for everyones help,
Tom
It should work. Mine does. See above. Bluetooth GPS uses a serial profile, bluetooth headset uses a headset profile. No problem to use them both at the same time.
Andre
I used my Jam as phone, mp3 player and GPS all at the same time.
1. MP3 thru my car's aux input
2. GPS thru aux input:
hardware: Tomtom BT receiver
Software: Routis 2, TomTom USA 2004 (can open both if U use GPSGate)
3. Phone thru BT headset or aux input
To answer yr question:
Since I can use both BT GPS and BT headset together. I don't think it's a problem for both BT carkit and BT GPS to works.
Phone call always get highest prioity, all other apps (GPS software, mp3 player) will be mute until U finished yr call.
Phone call is not a problem (see above) but dialing is a big trouble since no voice calling built-in. Third partner software like intellidialer and voice commander (from MS or Cyberon) helps a bit
Ive also got my jam working fine incar. I use a socket bluetooth gps unit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717 with tomtom 5 then I have a SE HBH-600 Akono Bluetooth Headset for calls both work together! When I have a incoming call it mutes tomtom and displays the normal caller id app on top, answering the call (via the green hardware button) results in my jam going to the phone app totally and leaving tomtom minimized in the background. As soon as the call ends tomtom jumps back to the foreground, it all works very well in my opinion. Ive also assigned the camera button to switch me back to the today screen so I can launch any app (with tomtom still running in the background) via a icon.

Trouble on Hermes 200 (SFR1605), BT headset and BT359 GPS receiver.

Hi all,
I just bought a Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 stereo headset, which worked very well in the shop (handsfree functions and music from WMP).
I use Tomtom V6 and a Globalsat BT359W receiver. Tomtom works very well with the BT359 and the original Tytn headset. The SE HBH-DS970 works very (very) well alone, but when I want to use Tomtom, SE HBH-DS970 and BT359 all together I got a sound chopped and unusable, even from WMP. If I power off (for tests purpose) the BT359, the sound goes back very well. I make a lot of tests: remove BT headset and coupling back, remove BT359 and coupling again, soft reset... and sometimes, it works perfectly. Yesterday I reinstalled Tomtom from scratch and it ran OK, I started more than 10 times and it worked, I believed the trouble was fixed, but this morning, after powering on the device, it was back. I am unable to find how it becomes working because it seems to be aleatory.
Does somebody know this trouble ? Could somebody help me to fix this trouble ?
Thank you very much.
I have the same problem with Garmin Mobile 10 GPS and R35 bluetooth clip. As soon as I start using GPS I my sound through R35 gets choppy. Is it about how the bluetooth stack is implemented in the Hermes?
JohnieWalker007 said:
I have the same problem with Garmin Mobile 10 GPS and R35 bluetooth clip. As soon as I start using GPS I my sound through R35 gets choppy. Is it about how the bluetooth stack is implemented in the Hermes?
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I don't know, it seems that what we hear in the headset is the polling of the GPS receiver. It could be from the MS BT stack or from the BT driver in Tomtom (or Garmin), but I am not enough expert in PPC to diagnose properly. I am impatient to be able to install Widcomm stack on my Tytn, but it is not ready.
BR.

TOMTOM instructions on hands-free

Can enyone tell me if it is possible and how??
I have a Parrot 3100 and works fine for calls but can't put it saying nothing that comes from TOMTOM.
I have a friend that one time he heard the tomtom on a head-set.
But only one time and never more.
He doesn't know how!
Can enyone help me?
seem to recall people saying it works if
gps is connected first and then headset
You need a bluetooth headset with AD2P proflie. The standard hards free profile will only route calls to the headset. That said, if you press the voice dial button on your headset when an instruction is being read out, you will hear it in the headset (once only) - probably what the friend experienced.
Hi. I use a piece of software with my standard bt handsfree.
Chartcross Bluetooth Audio Router
The sound quality isn't stunning, but it lets all sounds that usually come from the inbuilt speaker to go through the handsfree instead
Tryed Chartcross Bluetooth Audio Router on my Trinity WM6 using hands free car kit (Delta System)... When activated it switches off the car speakers (like when calls arrive) but sounds still are on the speaker of pda...
Do you thing it will be necessary a reg tweak?
THX
No idea sorry. I only got my Trinity 2 days ago. I was using a prophet before which worked fine with it. I'll let you know if i do find anything though
IN MY HAND-FREE car kit my tomtom turned off the radio and instructions in car speakers.
right now that doesn't happen.
Infortunately i've tried so many roms i don't know i used at that time, and how make car speakers work again. Any help?

Force TomTom audio commands to HFP and not A2DP?

I have searched the forums and haven't found a solution to this problem. I have a WM6 Athena, and whilst tomtom has no problem routing audio to my Jabra BT8010 headset, my car stereo receiver will not pass the signal to the speakers when the radio is playing.
A suitable workaround is to force the tomtom audio signal to HFP (Hands Free Profile) so that priority is assured on the car stereo.
Is there a registry command or hack to accomplish this?
I have tried BTAudioNav but it isn't doing anything for WM6 devices - it only routes my Athena to Voice Speed Dial software.
I am not the only one with this problem, so this is why I am posting to this forum.
Thanks
kww
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Here are similar threads about TomTom and car reciever exasperation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385257
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397452
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261109&highlight=tomtom+car+receiver+stereo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319729&highlight=tomtom+car+receiver+stereo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358539&highlight=tomtom+car+receiver+stereo
keithwwalker said:
I have searched the forums and haven't found a solution to this problem. I have a WM6 Athena, and whilst tomtom has no problem routing audio to my Jabra BT8010 headset, my car stereo receiver will not pass the signal to the speakers when the radio is playing.
A suitable workaround is to force the tomtom audio signal to HFP (Hands Free Profile) so that priority is assured on the car stereo.
Is there a registry command or hack to accomplish this?
I have tried BTAudioNav but it isn't doing anything for WM6 devices - it only routes my Athena to Voice Speed Dial software.
I am not the only one with this problem, so this is why I am posting to this forum.
Thanks
kww
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My solution was to ditch my BT8010 for a headset without A2DP and then calls get properly routed along with TomTom etc. OK I admit it... I lost my BT8010 and replaced it with Plantronics 520.
keithwwalker said:
I have searched the forums and haven't found a solution to this problem. I have a WM6 Athena, and whilst tomtom has no problem routing audio to my Jabra BT8010 headset, my car stereo receiver will not pass the signal to the speakers when the radio is playing.
A suitable workaround is to force the tomtom audio signal to HFP (Hands Free Profile) so that priority is assured on the car stereo.
Is there a registry command or hack to accomplish this?
I have tried BTAudioNav but it isn't doing anything for WM6 devices - it only routes my Athena to Voice Speed Dial software.
I am not the only one with this problem, so this is why I am posting to this forum.
Thanks
kww
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Technically the problem is with the radio. TomTom does not use HFP. Since it is only a one way communication program it use A2DP, which your radio treats as a completely separate audio source and can only play one source at a time (unless you have one with zones).
So there is nothing you can do on the PDA side, TomTom would have to program it to be a HFP device and then you wouldn't be able to have both TomTom and your phone synced to the radio at the same time.
I started to get one with zones but I thought it was something I wouldn't use since I don't have kids. I kinda wish I had looked into it a little more now. Put the radio on the rear speakers fairly loud and let TomTom use the front speakers.
Given the choice between phone service and GPS, I would take GPS.
So is there a registry setting or hack where this can be forced into HFP?
And for the record, I wish to use the tt6 without my Jabra head set.
also for the record, tt6 works when I have the bluetooth enabled on my car receiver, but it is total silence in between instructions. This is stupid, desired action is for tt6 audio to cut in during music.

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