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screen rotation software please

Does any one know where I can get the software to switch views on the xda2 screen between portrait & landscape formats ? When I am trying to view spread sheets it becomes extreemly frustraiting having to scroll accross every time I want to view things !!! :x

hey mate,
when i was still using my xda1 i tried out 2 kinds of software; ny-something (forgot the name) and another one called jslandscape. the ny works better but i never got the correct settins to make the appearance right (based on resolution). and the worse part is to uninstall the sucker you have to do a hard reset. now that i'm using an xda2 i haven't heard of anyone successfully using either of the 2 softwares i mentioned; a friend of mine had to do a hardreset after trying it out on his unit. my 2 cents worth is that be VERY careful when you decide to try out orientation software; make sure you back up your data well.
cheers
robson

Have a look at http://www.nyditot.com/
I never testesed it but it seems very good (pocketpc award 2003)
bye
Carlo

I use nyditot quite a lot, at 480x360 landscape for terminal services and web browsing, and it works perfectly. Note that there were issues with PC2003 until recently, so make sure you get the latest version.
I beleive you can uninstall it without a hard reset. However, you need to do a soft reset between screen changes which can be a bit irritating.
Also, the SIP is scaled too, so can be a bit fiddly to use at finer resolutions, although I rather like it tiny.
I just wish PPC devices would start to use, and properly support, the new 640x480 screens that are becoming standard on Palm5 devices.

I also use the nyditot software. I first started using it when I had an iPAQ but since it works with WM2003 is was able to migrate to my XDA II

CITRIX ICA CLIENT

Hello, Hopefully someone has already had this problem and fixed it.
I am using the Citrix ICA client to launch Applications on my Companies Web Server.
The apps load in okay however they are always launched zoomed into the whole application at once.
Trouble is this makes the Writting very small and difficult to read.
There is a Giant bar at the bottom of the screen with the keyboard icon that takes up far to much room. and on it are the ICA zoom in and out buttons. only thing is they dont work on WM5.
Anybody got any ideas for either hiding the bottom bar or getting the zoom buttons working.
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aajs: with respect to terminal services, see here
I'm working to get a beta version of full screen terminal services out within a week; I've posted that if someone show's me a screenshot of the Citrix client (or sends me a copy of the client paying attention to pirating and copyright issues, and a test server address to test on) I'll have a play with it to see if I can sort it out as well. No promises on time frame though.
V

V,
you can download the Citrix-Client for free from www.citrix.com
Wolfgang

Thanks Wolfgang; I'll try to look into it.
If you've got a screenshot of it running, I'll be able to give you a quick idea if I can fix it. I don't quite understand how the problem looks on your PDA, and can't really install and test it right now.
V

I'd like to send you a sreenshot, but I have still some problems to configure the program.
Citrix tries to connect to http://127.0.0.1 and the MDA tries to open a connection to through the phone instead connecting to the localhost.
I'm searching still (on my Blueangel it worked without any problems)
Wolfgang

aajs said:
The apps load in okay however they are always launched zoomed into the whole application at once.
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This is working the way it should. I'm assuming that you're comparing this to the way the Citrix ICA client looks on another PocketPC. Because the Universal's screen resolution is 640x480 you'll be able to see much more of your application than you can with a 'standard' PocketPC who's screen resolution is only 320x240 (or one quarter of the Jasjar's screen). Since the screen on the universal and the screen on most PocketPC's are about the same physical size and you're able to see four times as much information on the universal that has the effect of making everything look much smaller.
Personally, I love the fact that it does this and this is one of the only reasons why I got a universal. It is much more useful to me because you can see so much more information on the screen at once.
Anybody got any ideas for either hiding the bottom bar or getting the zoom buttons working.
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The zoom buttons do work, but they don't do what you think. Because the Universal's screen does have those bars on the top and bottom of the screen you don't get the full 640x480 resolution for your Citrix session - you need to scroll up or down to see the parts of the screen that the bars are covering. The zoom buttons can 'shrink' the citrix screen so that the whole height of the screen fits between the two bars - it actually makes the screen smaller so that you don't have to scroll up and down.
As far as I know there is no way to completely hide the bars unless vijay is able to work his magic on them
Brett

Brett, if you've got a screenshot I'll get an idea of what you guys mean.
I'll be working on the Terminal Services client this weekend hopefully, and then I'll see what else can be thrown together!
V

Looking to buy a Universal

I'm interesting in the current asking price of a Universal.
My primary interest is to use it with the RDP client to connect to windows due to its VGA screen - and thats about it.
Is it still quite an expensive bit of kit? And are there any hopes of swapping Blue Angel for one, as thats only a QVGA screen.
Cheers for any advice that can be given.

FYI, RDP client is there only in WM6(which has its share of bugs). If you use those files in WM5 for RDP client, you cannot use the built in hard keyboard or soft(onscreen) keyboard.
Note: RDP is not there in any WM5 ROM

I have a .cab that runs perfectly on my WM5 rom for the BA.
I've attached the one I use fine on BA.

Biohead said:
I have a .cab that runs perfectly on my WM5 rom for the BA.
I've attached the one I use fine on BA.
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I was talking about this file exactly

Biohead said:
I'm interesting in the current asking price of a Universal.
My primary interest is to use it with the RDP client to connect to windows due to its VGA screen - and thats about it.
Is it still quite an expensive bit of kit? And are there any hopes of swapping Blue Angel for one, as thats only a QVGA screen.
Cheers for any advice that can be given.
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Check your PM.

@Kdskamal: So would I be able to fully use RDP @ 640x480 on a Uni at all?
@bukwit: PM'd back

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@Kdskamal: So would I be able to fully use RDP @ 640x480 on a Uni at all?
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Yes, only if you use WM6. As I have already said, using the abovementioned cab by you wont let you enter any input via keyboard. So, if you can live with the issues of wm6(mainly, inability to connect to wpa-tsk wifi network and some video call issues), then, you'll be happy with universal

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Yes, only if you use WM6. As I have already said, using the abovementioned cab by you wont let you enter any input via keyboard. So, if you can live with the issues of wm6(mainly, inability to connect to wpa-tsk wifi network and some video call issues), then, you'll be happy with universal
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Not true, if you install the above CAB on WM5, then you can use fullscreen RDP and there is no problem with the hardware keyboard at all! I just tried it yesterday on my WM5 Uni, it works great! There are a few bugs with it however:
- You must manually connect to the internet first, the RDP client will not connect for you. If you don't do this, then the RDP client will just report a strange error message.
- The "fit remote desktop to screen" option is permanently enabled. It doesn't make any difference if you tick this option box or not. This means that the remote screen will always be 640x480, which is no problem for me.
- It doesn't seem to close properly on first attempt. I have the X button of SPB Pocket Plus, and this does not close it first time - I have to ALT+TAB back to it and close it a second time before it will be properly closed.
Some or all of these bugs may only appear on WM5, but they are all very minor IMHO. Once again I can confirm that both fullscreen 640x480 VGA mode and the hardware keyboard on the Uni works perfectly in WM5, so enjoy!!! This new RDP client is incredibly fast and responsive, I use it all the time to connect to my home PC with the T-Mobile unlimited 3G data plan

Increase Resolution? - Remote Desktop Mobile

Is there a way to increase the 6800s displayed resolution for remote desktop mobile. Tried all the settings & need to at least double res. Don't see any reg entries that deal with this.

I'd like to second this question.
My wish would be for a remote desktop client that could "zoom out" to view a larger resolution, similar to how the Opera Mini or Picsel browsers work.

Have you guys tried LogMeIn dot com ? Unless I'm confused about your need, this remote client does what you're looking for. It runs my desktop at 640x480 and has a "fit to screen" size option (and 50%, 75%, 100% zoom). Performance is sluggish but usable over EVDO.

As crazy as this sounds, I now surf the internet almost exclusively through logmein.com because I honest to goodness think it's faster than regular surfing. Anyone with a Mogul/Titan that hasn't tried logmein.com and orb are really missing out.

cheesiest said:
Have you guys tried LogMeIn dot com ? Unless I'm confused about your need, this remote client does what you're looking for. It runs my desktop at 640x480 and has a "fit to screen" size option (and 50%, 75%, 100% zoom). Performance is sluggish but usable over EVDO.
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rdp mobile also runs the host at 640x480, we were hoping for a client that would run the host at a higher resolution

I see, I did misread the question a bit. I agree that higher resolution on the desktop side is sometimes desirable. Like rivera I find myself surfing through logmein (doing it right now), but there are a few web sites that assume 800x600 or higher. Looks like I'm a +1 to the original poster now.

I'll try editing rdp mobile exe, see if we can get anywhere.

I tried logmein. I get the PDA site and when I go to the remote desktop or whatever the function it is to go to the desktop it always goes back to the same thing. I could see my files though. Does anyone know what exactly Im suppose to do to see the desktop.Thanks in advance.

three letters for you all:
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VNC is the open source remote desktop client. Your device's resolution is always going to be 320x240 because that's physically how many dots there are. However, many VNC clients for PPC allow you to zoom in/out.
Google it.

ya we know about VNC but i just prefer if i dont have anything external installed. rather used the ones built in the system. and i think RDM runs really fast and really well if they have higher resolution.

Nyditot
http://www.nyditot.com/Home.asp
Works with WM6 on the Mogul. Make sure you select FIT WIDTH in the options before rebooting and do not select "restart on reset" as you will not be able to get out of a loop if the program messes up the phone. Text is harder to read, and the Today screen looks iffy, but we browsing is better.

Remote Desktop Resolution

I'm running WM6 (and WM5 behaved the same way) Remote Desktop and need the desktop resolution of 1024x768. I understand I will do some scrolling because of the native 640x480. I'll just do quite a bit less than on my 8525 (TyTn).
The 8525 and the Athena give me the same server desktop size. On the 8525 I get scroll bars to scroll around the 640x480 virtual desktop using it's 320x240 screen. On the Athena I get the 640x480 desktop and no scrolling. Nice but since the program on the server needs 1024x768 I'm still stuck. Is there anyway to set the resolution like on the desktop version of the Remote Desktop Client? The only option is "fit remote desktop to screen" on the Athena.
I monitor multiple servers and some of the management tools need bigger than 640x480. My whole organization is Remote Desktop so installing another remote control system is not an option.

you can use vnc insted

Can't use VNC
hammermedia said:
....... the management tools need bigger than 640x480. My whole organization is Remote Desktop so installing another remote control system is not an option.
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I have 20 servers in our environment and installing VNC would be a chore not to mention. I don't like to install ANYTHING on production servers. Hence the need for 1024x768 in RDP.
It's odd that 320x240 allows you to scroll to 640x480 but no other resolution is available for 640x480.
By the way I love the old VNC. I used to use it on my PDQ Smartphone by Kyocera running Palm OS in 2001. Back then it would allow scaling. It seems silly that RDP can't do the same.

hammermedia said:
I have 20 servers in our environment and installing VNC would be a chore not to mention. I don't like to install ANYTHING on production servers. Hence the need for 1024x768 in RDP.
It's odd that 320x240 allows you to scroll to 640x480 but no other resolution is available for 640x480.
By the way I love the old VNC. I used to use it on my PDQ Smartphone by Kyocera running Palm OS in 2001. Back then it would allow scaling. It seems silly that RDP can't do the same.
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qvga screens have to allow scrolling otherwise the application would be unusable! Is there any way to scale your applications at the server end to be compliant with VGA resolution? what issues does it throw up? As far as I know VNC is your only alternative. You could try running remote desktop in portrait mode to see if that helps your cause any....
shame there's no application to allow resolution interpolation (as seen on 800 by 480 oqo UMPCs) this might 'trick' the remote desktop client into thinking it was running on a 1024 by 768 display and scale it accordingly.
I think I'm talking rubbish. Anyway maybe remote desktop client has a set resolution that it scales to: i.e. 640*480.

NYDITOT
I know Nyditot used to work on my ipaq but it's functionality on WM 6 is another story.
Does anyone have any experience with it on the Athena other than:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1379191&postcount=1
The following link gives hope:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1787128&postcount=11
The mocha client mentions that they didn't use higher resoutions because of licensing concerns and Microsoft. Bummer.
Vijay555 says the 640x480 resolution is hardcoded.
Does anyone have a microsoft contact to find out if there is an update coming in WM 6.1 / WM 7?

I had this working fine with the latest nyditot (you have to reboot with the keyboard disconnected) but dropped it when I went to the far far far superior Z2software remote 2PC

i used vnc from desktops but tinyvnc client connected without problems to windows RDP.(but colors is little shaped compared to ms rdp client)
in my sight your problem is good rdp client software.. try vnc, sources available maybe you can even find or implement rdp desktop image software zoom on pda.

Sort of ...
I did this yesterday, I RDP'd to a PC and then from there RDP'd to the server I needed access to. The PC connected to the server with a 1024 x 768 connection, so with scrolling I was able to move around the remote server's screen.
Not perfect by any means, but it does the job if needed.

ice_coffee said:
I had this working fine with the latest nyditot (you have to reboot with the keyboard disconnected) but dropped it when I went to the far far far superior Z2software remote 2PC
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where you using Real VGA? If so did you have to go back to standard resolution reset then start nyditot then reset?

I have the same problem. My servers use 1024x768 resolution and many things dont work well with only a 640x480 desktop (which is what I get with Remote Desktop Mobile). I did try the mocha one and it works a little better, but only allows up to 800x600. I need one that supports at least 1024x768, anyone know of a RDP mobile client that would support 1024x768?

wildcard said:
I have the same problem. My servers use 1024x768 resolution and many things dont work well with only a 640x480 desktop (which is what I get with Remote Desktop Mobile). I did try the mocha one and it works a little better, but only allows up to 800x600. I need one that supports at least 1024x768, anyone know of a RDP mobile client that would support 1024x768?
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Yes www.z2software.com supports what ever res your computer is running and gives you the option to zoom in to 640X480 or closer
@hammermedia, yes I was using real VGA it worked well all you had to do, when first activiating nyditot reboot with the keyboard disconnected ! and when you get into Remote desktop go into the settings and tick "FULL SCREEN" and "FIT REMOTE DESKTOP TO SCREEN"

I will suggest to check the LOGMEIN professional solutions ( www.logmein.com, the IT reach solution or the PRO solution. May be you will discover also that the FREE solution is enought ).
Test them for free.
I managed a medium sized IT company and the remote production machines management is ALWAYS a pain in.... and no solution is the "final solution".
In Logmein I love the resolution settings, (I use 800x600 resized on athena) and the settings to improve the speed and screen size on-the-fly
In 1024x768 on the athena I use the external mouse and just moving it in the corner the screen it scrolls in the direction needed, and is really fast.
The client is an IE or pocket IE plugin (firefox client available)

sergiopi said:
I will suggest to check the LOGMEIN professional solutions ( www.logmein.com, the IT reach solution or the PRO solution. May be you will discover also that the FREE solution is enought ).
Test them for free.
I managed a medium sized IT company and the remote production machines management is ALWAYS a pain in.... and no solution is the "final solution".
In Logmein I love the resolution settings, (I use 800x600 resized on athena) and the settings to improve the speed and screen size on-the-fly
In 1024x768 on the athena I use the external mouse and just moving it in the corner the screen it scrolls in the direction needed, and is really fast.
The client is an IE or pocket IE plugin (firefox client available)
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Another thumbs-up on LogMeIn. I use the free version for home and the "Pro" version for work, which allows more features like file transfer. It allows resetting the resolution on the host, then scaling the display (auto or a certain percent) on the Athena so you can get optimal control. The touchscreen sends mouse events. Very usable.

ice_coffee said:
Yes www.z2software.com supports what ever res your computer is running and gives you the option to zoom in to 640X480 or closer
@hammermedia, yes I was using real VGA it worked well all you had to do, when first activiating nyditot reboot with the keyboard disconnected ! and when you get into Remote desktop go into the settings and tick "FULL SCREEN" and "FIT REMOTE DESKTOP TO SCREEN"
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Just checked it out, it doesn't look like it's RDP. Are there any RDP mobile clients that support 1024x768 resolution?

wildcard said:
Just checked it out, it doesn't look like it's RDP. Are there any RDP mobile clients that support 1024x768 resolution?
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it's true that it does not use MS remote desktop, it uses there own s/ware but it is truly excellent ! far superior to the MS stuff

Do any solutions offer remote sound so that I can hear my pc's sound on my phone? I've tried LogMeIn, the Z2 app, and the normal MS RD. None of them will actually let me hear the sound of my desktop (i.e. if I play a music file). LogMeIn says it supports remote sound on the Pro version, but I tried it, and it must only work with other desktop pc's and not pocket pc's.

if you want to listen to music from your computer at home, I suggest you install ORB as it is free of charges and excellent ! (+ you can watch videos from home too)
The sound quality over RDP is poor and scratchy, it is also buffered badly

How about this one: http://www.zatelnet.com/zadesktop/main.php
Haven't tried it so no idea, but it does say it supports 1024x768 over RDP

excellent
i have just started using LogMeIn for remote desktop, it is significantly better than RDP although requires a bit of set up.
for remote admin and access to standard windows apps from the Athena it is really very good.

Mocha
I installed the Mocha client and it works pretty good for 800x600.
The whole point of RDP is that it's standard on Windows PC's and it works well in low bandwidth much better than VNC. Don't get me wrong, I love VNC and have been using it for almost 10 years on my home PC.
However, I have a dozen Windows servers that must run 24 hours a day and I don't install ANYTHING on them if I can help it. It's a matter of stability.