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O2 XDA 2 BLUETOOTH HEADACHES

Hi,
I've recently purchased an xda 2 from O2 it came with a free bluetooth headset, but I've a few problems and wondered if anybody could answer a couple of questions.
1. The little blue flashed LED, is it meant to flash all the time that bluetooth is being used? It seems to start flashing and then just stop.
2. When I go into my bluetooth settings and turn it back on when it's switched itself off I don't get the LED flashing then I go back into the settings again and it says that it's off. Is this what it's meant to do?
Any good guides/tools about using bluetooth with this device?
Beginning to pull my hair out and I've not much to spare!
Cheers
Marc

Free? from O2? how?
1stly howd u manage 2 get sumit out of O2 for free? i would be worried about that allready!!
what bt Headset did u get? with mine, i get a blue light flashing intermitently when the headset is turned on, and it doesnt change when im making a call.
which bt settings are you talking about? obviously you need to have bonded with the device, which the headsets instructions should cover.
to turn bt on the phone on you click on the bt icon at the botom of the active screen and select the On radio button.
if headset profile is enabled then there should B a small blue headset symbol next to the bt symbol, if its not set, or not turned on then it will be gray. if it is gray then click on it and hopefully it will turn blue to activate the headset profile.
there are sum interesting bt tools around, but the "recomended" setup is the Pocket Bluetooth Tools for the O2 XDA II and the MDA II which is available from here:
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
I hope that helps.
Smiley

sounds like you are using bluetooth tools and have got the clock symbol live (not greyed out), it times out the internet connection but doesnt seem to tell o2's software that it turned it off so when you go in, it quite often seems to think its on when its actually off !!

Hi, I didn't have the bluetooth tools loaded, but I've downloaded them from the site you suggested and everything seems to work better.
The headset did indeed come free from O2 I was quite surprised too.
I've think I've attached an image of it, not sure what make it is does BlueTrek sound good?

Yeah that sounds about right, their website doesnt actually give any details, helpfull as allways!! :roll:
neway, have u got everything working properly now?
Smiley

Hmm...somebody had the same problem with his Bluetreks G2 and the XDA2.
He did a special pairing mode and it solved the problem.
I think its in the G2s instruction manual.

Had a look at the manual can't see anything special in the way that you pair the G2 to the XDA2.
Do you use this bluetooth toolkit?
It still seems flaky, I tried answering a couple of calls with the headset yesterday and nobody could here me at the other end of the phone. Sometimes I get it where the phone says that I have "no bluetooth available" I have to remove the battery and insert it again. Is this normal?
Regards
Marc

Marc,
I get the same symptoms you describe when I'm using ActiveSync with my XDA2 over bluetooth, but never with my HBH-65 BT headset. I'm not using any additional bluetooth tools or anything like that. Just the standard built-in bluetooth on my original (November 03) ROM.
Sometimes if my bluetooth ActiveSync connection is idle for a while the connection drops and the flashing blue light on the XDA2 goes out. However, if I tap the little blue BT icon at the bottom of the Today screen, the setting shows that BT is still turned on. I have to tap it on, then off then on again to cycle the status and convince the machine that bluetooth is really back on again. :? This sounds like the problem you describe.
However, no problems like this with my BT headset, which works perfectly.
This isn't any help, but at least you know you're not alone!

Does anybody know if a registry entry exists to turn the bt headset profile on and off?
I've got headset working now but it switches off frequently.
Cheers
Marc

I have a BlueTrek G2 for my Imate and it's working with no problems at all ... I tried BT tools but didn't find it useful as I thought it will give me a "Hands free" profile but it doesn't :x
mokl: maybe it's a ROM issue ... mine is 1.72 WWE, what's yours ?

The rom version is 1.60.00WWE

Just to let everybody know, I had some major problems with my bluetooth on my XDA 2. Tried everything, eventually got a replacement from 02 and the new one works fine now, so it must have been a hardware fault.

Widcomm Bt Stack On Wizard - Howto

Hi!
In the last some days i read a lot and found the following :
1. download the widcomm stack from axim site : LINK
2. install it + do a soft reset
3. get a registry edittor (Resco, CECMD etc.)
4. change these values :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\BtConfig\SerialTransport]
BaudRate=115200 (Won't start at higher rate.)
Device=COM
FlowControl=0
Parity=0
Port=1 (This is the most important thing!)
-soft reset
-at the today screen you will find a BT icon, click on it and have fun
TESTED FEATURES
-BT FTP, tested with : SE K750i, hx4700.
-ActiveSync : NOT WORKING
KNOWN ISSUES
-unable to control from comm manager
-blue led not flashing, easy to forget
-a2dp not tested
-tested on aku3.2 and aku2.3 roms, others maybe ok.
-other devices can't download bt services list, but the services works well.
-maybe unable to remove, not tested yet
-turns off, when you trun off your device, that maybe a problem with BT headset.
DO IT ON YOUR OWN RISK

Great news! Posted an announcement to the SP & Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog too!

Problems!!!
I've just installed the bluetoth stack in my phone. I've not yet tested it but i've found two showstop problems:
- activesync doesn't work anymore
- i cannot start the comm manager anymore (when i press the comm manager button in the upper left corner i can see only a small dialog with wifi and bluetooth power levels)
This is what i've done (maybe i did something wrong):
- copied the cab to storage and ran it (installed in device)
- soft-reset (required by the installer)
- edited the registry according to the first post
- soft-reset
I'm using an aku3.2 rom
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Comm manager is working again. I had to reassociate it in Start-Settings-Buttons
Still no activesync (over USB at least)
bye
bye

Has anyone else tried this then? Has anyone tried the hermes cab install found in here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1072292#post1072292
There has been reports that it works on the trinity as well, so it may work on the Wizard.
Edit: No it doesn't. I have just ried it and it gives the memory error.

took the plunge and tried it
Bluetooth works and I can connect my itech S35 to it. The A2DP profile is detected and can connect... problem is, the signal is too weak to maintain a connection, in other words, I just heard 2 seconds of music and that's it... Another problem is my speakers now don't work... must do more reading...
It's hopeful though...
I am using a Dopdo838...

new2city said:
Bluetooth works and I can connect my itech S35 to it. The A2DP profile is detected and can connect... problem is, the signal is too weak to maintain a connection, in other words, I just heard 2 seconds of music and that's it... Another problem is my speakers now don't work... must do more reading...
It's hopeful though...
I am using a Dopdo838...
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Did you try tweaking the BT params (for example, lowering the bit speed) to see whether it would work at lower bit speeds? See my related articles.

got look out for the links to your tips and tricks again
Hi Menneisyys,
Surrendered on Widcomm stack almost 2 months ago, now have to look again for the links for your tips and tricks for the Widcomm stack again...
Any idea on how to restore audio to my speakers... still dead at the moment... sigh... don't want to restore my back up yet...

i found that you don't really need to remove the shift* keys. if you already removed it, download the BTSpeedSwitcher from the download link, and set the speed to 921600bps. that may help.

Got it working fine
Thanks, but now I am a bit unclear, but will clear things up later. I used the speedswitcher as you suggested and but I had to disable audiogateway before it could work... now I am stuck as I put my wizard into standby and now it won't come back.... on... doh!
Well, one thing I can confirm, you can put it into standby and the bluetooth is still on.......
will feed back more when I get a clearer picture of what happened.... The sound quality is great..... just skipped for a second but is not back to normal again...
My wizard has now a nice quality A2DP sound without the high pitch noise...
went to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1073003&posted=1#post1073003
and used the files from Superdave... all is well now... look at my reply at the hermes thread.. Now I will just back up this "working configuration" and retry these settings on the cab from Aximsite... All the same, thanks to the legendary Mikelspikel
Just wanted A2DP to work so bad.... and it does now. nicely..

new2city said:
Got it working
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Okay, when you get time can you stick up how you got it all working? Many Thanks!
Ive installed the Superdave BBS_HERMES_03.CAB file and then modified the registry to use the above settings but every time i do the soft reset, the registry settings go back to the original values. Im stuck here.
Oh and i am using the last T-Mobile UK rom. (2.0 i think)
Edit 2: Now got it working. I had to kill voicecmd and cprog for it to load without giving the memory issue!

new2city said:
you can put it into standby and the bluetooth is still on.......
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as it should - BT is on on PPC PE devices in standby mode, unlike on plain PPC's.

peetking said:
-unable to control from comm manager
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It looks like comm manager is just an HTML document in the /windows directory. (Should be simple to redirect the button)

Leaskovski
sorry for the late reply but had a few setbacks during the night(I am in Malaysia)..
Got A2DP running all night and by mid morning... suddenly all went to hell..
1) No skipping with your suggestion of using MikelSpikel's speed switcher.
2) While trying to put it to standby to test if BT still works and it hung at first attempt. Something must have happened here as I recovered using the reset button and then suddenly I could get it to revert back to built in speakers and headset without issue. I thought, cool, it is like complete solution...
And then, I decided to backup this "complete solution" with SPB backup.. and after the softreset, I lost the ability to switch between headset and speakers. Then during the night while I sleep and use the headset, at around 3 am... the skipping came back...
and then... I restored the backup and now... got to tackle the skipping again.. never mind the muted speakers..
What linespeed(I use 320 dec), Blocks(16) and subband(8) do you use? I followed MikelSpikel's settings which work ok... last night...
back to the drawing board..

Right, i installed the superdave 03 version and then opened up the registry to make sure the settings matched the ones above. I had to kill cprog and voicecmd to start it without the memory error.
I have tested it now and although it is loading up ok, my headset connection is just not working properly. Its paired ok but nothing is getting routed through. However, my gps bluetooth device paired okay and is working fine with iGO 2006 after doing a detection. Damn shame about this headset! I am using a parrott ck3000.

redo..
Re-installed everything again and now I got a working version, some things to note though on my wizard..
1) I must overclock to 260mhz(battery status method) before I get skip free music.
2) Leaskovski, I had the same problem too in the beginning, where there is no audio getting through. Did you go to Bluetooth Manager and check the status of your headset? i went to mine(ItechS35) and I can see that the Wizard is sending data through successfully but there is no sound coming out of the headset. I solved this(that time, I don't know why it worked but it did) by going to Bluetooth services and removing the Check box for audio gateway enabled, and then music started coming through. I know, does not sound logical but it worked... that time..
Now hoping to find a way to redirect audio back to speakers when bluetooth is not used..
not tonight though.. its 10.46 pm now where I am...

This doesn't look promising for how i though the BT audio might work with this stack. I was hoping for something like the following...
"A good example of this is MS Voise command running on the MS BT stack. The two devices are paired and connected, however there is currently no streaming. You then receive the text message and MS Voice command reads the message back to you. Just before the message is read, the connection between the devices is made live, and thus the message gets read over the BT headset."
I was hoping that this was going to work for all applications like media player and iGO. I can reproduce what it is doing at the moment using the BTAudio programme that is available on these boards. I just wanted to get around this 'constant' streaming of silent noise.
Damn shame.

Okay for anyone wanting to play with this, here is how i installed and got it running...
1) Download from this thread post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1072773&postcount=72 the file BBS_HERMES_03.zip.
2) Install onto your wizard and soft reset when asked. Upon the reset, the device will moan at you about not having enought memory to load the drivers. Click ok to close this.
3) Load up your registry editor (i use FDCSoft Task Manager) and make the following mods as stated in the first post...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\BtConfig\SerialTransport]
BaudRate=115200 (Won't start at higher rate.)
Port=1 (This is the most important thing!)
If you only want audio routed to headset when there is audio to route then make this reg edit...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugins\handsfree]
Audiohandling=21
4) Do not do a soft reset yet.
5) Now fire up your Task Manager (i use FDCSoft Task Manager) and kill any memory hungry tasks. The ones i kill which then allow me to start the stack is voicecmd.exe and cprog.exe.
6) Now click on the BT icon in the system tray and turn BT on.
Obviously there must be some memory leaks some where in the wizard because a couple of people have said that later in the day, if you try to turn BT on again it wont start due to memory requirements. Anyway, the best thing i can think of is to leave BT on after you have turned it on.
Currently, the blue led will not flash when BT is one. Try not to use the Normal Comms Manager to turn BT one as well as i think this trys to turn the MS stack on which won't work (probably due to memory requirements! )

new2city said:
I solved this(that time, I don't know why it worked but it did) by going to Bluetooth services and removing the Check box for audio gateway enabled, and then music started coming through. I know, does not sound logical but it worked... that time..
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I didnt get this to work in the end by the way.

I tried your idea to leave BT all the while but some problems pop up..
1) If turn off the headset without disconnecting it(BT still left on and the phone goes on standby, sometimes it won't come back.. a poke at the reset button is the only way..
2) I left BT on and disconnected the headset properly. Great BT is still on... BUT after a few hours, I can still connect the headset, but audio is not going there anymore... ??? but goes into internal speakers?

new2city said:
I tried your idea to leave BT all the while but some problems pop up..
1) If turn off the headset without disconnecting it(BT still left on and the phone goes on standby, sometimes it won't come back.. a poke at the reset button is the only way..
2) I left BT on and disconnected the headset properly. Great BT is still on... BUT after a few hours, I can still connect the headset, but audio is not going there anymore... ??? but goes into internal speakers?
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Hmm, i dont have those issues. I am using it with my carkit, so when i turn the engine off and remove the keys, the kit turns off. I haven't had to reset the device apart from when i have turned BT off and then tried to turn it back on again at a later stage (then giving me the memory issue).

8525 Bluetooth disconnects with headset mid-call

Hi All,
I have been reading a lot of messages on both 8525 and 8125 trying to isolate the issue and there doesn't seem to be a straight asnwer anywhere and hence I am trying to get the attention of the users here...
I have a pioneer navigation system with a bluetooth built-in. My previous phone (blackberry) and my wife's treo650 both stay connected with car's bluetooth when on call (never a disconnect). But my new 8525 gets disconnected mid-call (usually after 2 to 5mins, but have also seen a disconnect within 1min). That is, it does pair with the car kit and when there is no call going on, the bluetooth connection never dies. This disconnect only happens mid-call, almost all the times.
I have the latest ROM (1,34.502...., radio: 1.16), got the phone about 2 weeks ago from Amazon.com. Called cingular and they say could be faulty phone and I have searched other forums like audi message board where their car kits are also having the same disconnect problem with 8525, so I doubt this is a single phone issue.
I have taken the 'band' hack and forced the phone to be in either GSM or WCDMA mode and in either modes, the phone still exhibits the same problem (there might not be any connection between the two at all, bluetooth with GSM/WCDMA, but thought there might be some weird connection...but not the case thankfully).
I read somewhere about some bluetooth tweaks on 8125, but never found what those were. I need some help here otherwise I am going to return the 8525 and stay away from it. I need the bluetooth to work efficiently.
thanks for all your help
Phal
San Jose, CA

please help
I really need some help, clue or direction on solving or at least isolating this bluetooth issue. I love the 8525 but if I cannot fix this bluetooth mid-call disconnect issue, I will unfortunately have to return, which I don't want.
What headsets the 8525 works fine with (no drops mid-call)? May be that is a starting point.
Please also give me some links to 8125 tweaks that some talked about? pof/other moderators/anyone?
thanks a lot in advance!!
Phal

I have an Motorola H700, and every once in a while it will disconnect, looking at the phone after that, BT is turned off, turn it back on and it works again...
There are problems with the hardware and the API used to access it, good phone, but I don't think it was ready for the market yet when they released it. It is likely to be corrected in the next ROM release, last I heard from Cingular is mid 2007, but by the way things go, prolly around late 07/early 08.

I'm having similar issues with the BT headset I use, which is a Samsung WEP150. It'll drop midcall to the handset. I'll look and BT is turned off.
The only remote correllation I've found is that it seems to occur when I've received a new email or something a la ActiveStink.. And I haven't really been able to confirm that... But I have definitely noticed it happening then though.

my 8525 does this as well with my factory BT in my 05 Acura TL. Kind of frustrating, have not been able to figure it out yet.

Problems w/ Audi BT as well
Same issues with my Audi Q7 BT. I have seen posts in this and other forums blaming the MS bluetooth stack.
My 8525 worked flawlessly with my Garmin NUVI 660, never disconnected or failed to connect automatically. This is frustrating.

8525 Fix
I had the same problem with the 8525 and my Pioneer Avic-Z1 bluetooth kit.
I hacked the registry to force the bluetooth radio to stay ON, rather than going into sleep mode. This seems to have fixed the problem (although with limited testing at this point).
My calls would consistently disconnect with 2-4 minutes. After the hack, I've had 2 45-minute+ conversations with no trouble.
Here's the fix... install a registry editor (like PHMedit), and add a DWORD here:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Suspend
Add a DWORD called btl1: (note the colon, the colon must be there), with a DWORD value of 2.
Good luck!

My Q7 as well i took the advice of wolfgram and did this to my phone i will let you know how it works it would be a shame to give up this phone but it is really useless if this feature does not work right.

Well this is what i did i did what wolfgram said and it still cut out but not as much so i took the checks off in the advance power mode and never let the phone go to sleep and it works all the time. HTC needs to upgrade thier bluetooth setting not to go to sleep. It must stay active at all times MY phone book and all other info posted into my Q7 with no issues at all and it even sees the bluetooth b4 the MMI system in the car Boots up..
Lance

Resolution I think
I turned off 'Making device discoverable to other devices' and it seems to have solved this problem, I am using the phone with a parrot kit and it kept disconnecting now it works all the time.

Treo 750 doesn't have this problem
Well, hopefully you owners of Hermes have figured out the fix. I had to return it and now got the Treo 750 and can gladly say the problem is not there. The treo 750 has the v1.2, but I guess following the replies here, that possibly Palm fixed the problem by keeping the BT radio on at all times.
In any case, here is the post I wrote in avic411.com forum - if you want to see any follow up responses by other owners..
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24170
cheers
Phal

Bluetooth cut out
I am having the problem too with the garmin Nuvi and the Tytn - which is ineresting seeing as how one poster had no problem with the Garmin device. Here is something else that is interesting - I did not have the problem when I had the HTC 1.18 Rom installed. After I flashed the HTC 1.35 Rom, the problem began. I have already tried upgrading my firmware on the Nuvi - that did not help. I also use a Nokia 800 bluetooth headset - and that never cuts out with either ROM. I will try turning off the bluetooth discovery first. If that does not work, will try editing the registry. Keep you posted.

Turning off bluetooth discovery did not work.

Turning Off Bluetooth Did Not Work For Me Either

this worked for me.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247520&page=10

drains the battery quicker, but no more bluetooth problems.....

Hey guys, has anybody found a solution for the auto turning off of the BT in suspend mode? its gettin really annoying

A2DP

A2DP is not working well.. when i use ad2p headset the audio fails VERY Much. If i turn off A2DP wmp plays well the music.
Is there any patch?
Thank's!

Fix!
I found this patch! It's not 100% good (sound fails ONLY time to time and drains battery ), but is almost, i think that with some work could get there...
lets make it 100% good...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974

this patch is not really working for me :/ i tried tons of patches but no go as of yet...
Is WM6 and ad2p no go? does it work better under WM5? or some issues? >.>
Or am i doing something wrong? Has anybody succesfully fixed thier ad2p under WM6?
if yes, what rom, what fixes? maibe radio rom? etc..
Thanks in advance
btw; tried Xplode's rom and now using Helmi's..
radiorom 1.13.. (not sure if that has anything to do with bluetooth >.>)
Xplode's i actualy ran perfectly once.. but never managed to recreate that after repairing my bt620s

thought I fixed it but nope.. softreset and no way to get it workin again..
Anyone mind posting thier registery settings, rom etc if they have no skipping with ad2p? >.>

Twistit said:
thought I fixed it but nope.. softreset and no way to get it workin again..
Anyone mind posting thier registery settings, rom etc if they have no skipping with ad2p? >.>
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Use a registry editor and add the following to your BA registry:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/Devices
Add a new DWord: DefaultMTU with the Hex value of 2a0
Capitalization counts in te DWord.
BTW, I posted this 2 days ago in this same forum under the "muppet" thread. Search is your friend.

Thanks ^^ ill try it when i get home.. forgot my bt620s today >.>
Geh i did search ^^ but i never figured the Muppets would have anything to do with ad2p *grins* So many random topics in this forum it feels like searching for a needle in a haystack

No devices under bluetooth, only device.. and under bluetooth/ad2p there is a map devices.. under device and ad2p/devices it didnt do the trick
wait wait.. hard reset.. and it worked.. now to see where it helped.. i stuck the key in 3 places.. lol
Jup just another soft reset killed it again (without removing one of the keys).. seems my ad2p only works right after a hard reset.. and then dies again.. no matter what fix..
Nother funny thing, before adding my bt headset it sees my laptop bluetooth.. after connecting the headset it sees no devices..
HmHm.. going to flash pdaviet on it in a sec radiorom 1.15.. try that.. maibe try the helmi's broadcom bluetooth stack..
My solution with pdaviet and radio 1.15 ^^ connect the wireless stereo.. startup mediaplayer and listen how sucky it sounds..
hit pauze.. turn off bluetooth.. turn on bluetooth.. go back to the mediaplayer and make sure it listens to your bluetooth headset.. (play and pause if it the mediaplayer responds its OK ^^) And then turn on wireless stereo again.. its a hassle after every softreset.. but hey.. it works ^^

Twistit said:
No devices under bluetooth, only device.. and under bluetooth/ad2p there is a map devices.. under device and ad2p/devices it didnt do the trick
wait wait.. hard reset.. and it worked.. now to see where it helped.. i stuck the key in 3 places.. lol
Jup just another soft reset killed it again (without removing one of the keys).. seems my ad2p only works right after a hard reset.. and then dies again.. no matter what fix..
Nother funny thing, before adding my bt headset it sees my laptop bluetooth.. after connecting the headset it sees no devices..
HmHm.. going to flash pdaviet on it in a sec radiorom 1.15.. try that.. maibe try the helmi's broadcom bluetooth stack..
My solution with pdaviet and radio 1.15 ^^ connect the wireless stereo.. startup mediaplayer and listen how sucky it sounds..
hit pauze.. turn off bluetooth.. turn on bluetooth.. go back to the mediaplayer and make sure it listens to your bluetooth headset.. (play and pause if it the mediaplayer responds its OK ^^) And then turn on wireless stereo again.. its a hassle after every softreset.. but hey.. it works ^^
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check this page:
http://translate.google.com/transla...arch?q=KB831722&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us
for some reason this KB article is only in Japanese but google translates it well. This is where I got my information and I can tell you I never have the difficulties yoiu are describing. Try the following steps and let me know if it working:
1. Connect the headset
2. open the media player of choice
3. start playback
4. pause playback
5. wait a couple seconds
6. resume playback
at this point it should play without any pauses/skips (works fine for me, but my BT range blows so bad, and my S9 headset is so uncomfortable I hardly ever use it. (If anyone wants to buy a nearly new S9 heatset let me know)
BTW It seems to be a known issue with BA + WM6 that headset disables all other BT connections. I would love to be able to use my GPS and headset together, but alas it disconnects the GPS everytime the headset is connected. Drop the headset and the GPS reconnects immediately.
One final note. All my testing has been done with the MS BT Stack. I read that Widcomm has no hands free support so I didn't try it.

Helmi's Broadcom Bluetooth Stack 1.7
I could never get the MS BT Stack to work right. Helmi made this test cab. It works well with my BA using WM6 and my Motorola S9 headset. The range is about 1 meter but the sound is good.
The BT manager format is accessed through the BT icon on the bottom toolbar.

I cannot upload the .cab file. Search for this file: HELMI_BA_WM5_BT1.7_TEST for great quality BT on BA WM6.

One way to solve the BTA2DP problem & it supports stereo. You can find these by the following link http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware & this software works too http://www.trianglepowers.com/PPC/ViewApp.aspx?ID=52 (have to register to download). I prefer Teksoft freeware as I am using it. Sometimes it takes a while after a few toggle u get it right

thanks alot trying the teksoft one and so far it works fine ^^ maibe ill see if its possible to skin the buttons tho
@kasush That method doesnt work for my headset, the Jabra BT620 can be a real ***** even on my laptop at times.. so i really need to turn off the wireless stereo.. So gues the S9 isnt that bad apart from the fact its not so comfortable.. the BT620 is great.. when it works ^^ just turning off the bloody blue rings on the headset everytime is anoying *grins* people think ufo's landed when i ride around with those on.
(Lol, just noticed there is a firmware upgrade available for my BT620s :O.. lets see how that works out ^^)

Mogul Widcomm stack
Has anyone successfullly installed the widcomm stack on their mogul. My pioneer Avic D3 hates the Mogul's MS Bluetooth stack. Keep me posted hackers! I love this site btw. I'm it's *****.

Bluetooth pairing diagnostics?

Hi all,
I am unable to pair my XV6800 to my Pioneer DEH-P980BT car stereo. The phone detects the stereo and requests the PIN, but fails after I enter the PIN with a 'Cannot Connect, connection failed or pin is wrong' error. I have used this stereo with my xv6600 Blue Angel for over a year (Can you say Widcomm stack?).
Anyway, I have been unable to come up with fruitful answers or even a next good step by searching the forums or general internet searching. I am wondering if there is some kind of Bluetooth tool that would allow me to determine what actual error is occurring?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I had the exact same problem with the same head unit. Here's what I did to correct it:
Code:
The vario II identifies itself as a PDA bluetooth device. The pioneer modules are searching
for a phone or smartphone, so it just ignores the Vario II.
Solutions:
Change the COD (Class of Device) from a PDA device to a smartphone device.
This can be done this way:
1. First make sure you've got a backup, or remember all settings you change in the registry.
2. Edit with a registry editor the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS\COD
By default my vario II does have the value: 1048852 (decimal)
Change this to: 5374476 (decimal).
3. Soft restart your device
4. Voila! Your device now identifies itself as a smartphone, and my pioneer unit finds it without problems.
That SHOULD work for you. Please let me know if does, because when I do it, the stereo finds the handset fine, but I can't hear any conversation coming out the speakers. It's like it is on permanent mute. This also happens with my BT headset - all controls work, but I can't hear anything nor can people hear me. Plus, my Mogul's speaker cracks and pops when I try using it with another BT device. I think it may be a bad unit. I want to know if you have better luck with the Mogul and 980BT.
I am using the newest ROM (2.17) and radio. The same thing happens to me with the older 2.09 ROM also.
sup191

Eureka!
It worked! I had tried this COD change before and had tried initiating pairing from the stereo, but had not tried both at the same time. I am able to connect the phone and bluetooth stereo simultaneously, and both are working with excellent sound quality. That's leap and bounds from where I was yesterday. Thank you very much!
Regarding your problems, I am not experiencing them at all. I can hear both sides of a conversation as can the other side. As it stands I think I will have to manually pair every time I get in the car (a pain, but I will work on it).
I am not sure what differences exists between the Hermes and Titan, but I would be happy to investigate for you wherever I can. My ROM is version 2.09 and my radio is version 1.30.
Thanks again. Feel free to post or PM me if I can help you figure your issues out.

Thanks for the offer to help. I think my first step is going to Sprint and showing them that BT is crap on my Mogul and see if they'll swap it for me. I'm also going to try pairing my headset there on the demo and see if it works. If it does, my unit it broken. I'll let ya know what happens.
sup191