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Battery Recalibration

I've purchased a second hand xda2, and found (not entirely to my suprise) that the battery life wasn't great - typically less than a day even if it had sit in the charging cradle the previous night.
So i went to o2 shop yesterday lunch time and purchased a new battery. They charged it for me on a rapid charger - took 30 minutes. However by the time I got home at 8.30pm the XDA2 was reporting very low battery - this is the new one - So I put that down to the rapid charger and I fully charged that one over night last night and took it out of the cradle at about 8 this morning.
It's already reporting 57% percent battery.
Now ok, i'm aware I've been using BT a lot to sort my active sync this morning etc, but surely battery life should be better than this? I used to have an IPAQ and that needed recalibrating because it was incorrect at guessing how quickly the battery would drain. Does this happen with the XDAs? if so how can I recalibrate or is something else likely to be draining the batt?
Thanks
Anthony

well the manual say you have to charge it for 24hours or so the first time
i would try to do that
also look if it's the normal batt or backup batt which is complaining
otherwise the batt life should inc the more times you charge it

Rudegar said:
well the manual say you have to charge it for 24hours or so the first time
i would try to do that
also look if it's the normal batt or backup batt which is complaining
otherwise the batt life should inc the more times you charge it
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Ok i'll try leaving it in the cradle over the weekend and switch back to my normal phone - backup battery is 100%. My old battery is in the aux battery holder in the cradle and has been since 1.30 this morning so maybe tommorow i'll give that one a whirl again!
Thanks

Try it with bluetooth switched off for a day and see if you get a different result. The other possibility is if you're in a low coverage area and your phone is constantly polling for network availability - is this likely to be the case?
If none of these apply, are you running any other peripherals, e.g. SD Wireless card? Just trying to whittle down the possibilities before blaming the hardware.
rgds,
Alex.

also upgrading to 1.72 should help.

M4io said:
also upgrading to 1.72 should help.
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Did this last night! thanks

anthonyeeles said:
M4io said:
also upgrading to 1.72 should help.
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Did this last night! thanks
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Make sure that you don't have the Blackberry Software running unless yoou're using Blackberry ! (Check the taskbar for an envelope icon). If you do run it, and you're not connected / subscribed to a Blackberry service then you'll get less than 12 hours on your battery.
Mark

mark.peters said:
Make sure that you don't have the Blackberry Software running unless yoou're using Blackberry ! (Check the taskbar for an envelope icon). If you do run it, and you're not connected / subscribed to a Blackberry service then you'll get less than 12 hours on your battery.
Mark
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Would BB be running by default if i've upg'd to 1.72?
I've uninstalled it as I don't plan to use it - I'll see how we go.
Thanks
Ant

My wizard battery only lasts half a day now?!

Hi, my batter has been working great since Christmas, but now for some reason won't last more than a fwe hours without saying battery low. I have my gprs check email every 5 minutes, but it has always been that way and I have been gettnig a good 2 days out of my phone before.
Now i take it off of the charger in the morning and then around lunch the batter is low already...
Is my batter just toast?
Should I get another?
THANKS!
T

Just a question, but have you been overclocking your TI OMAP processor? Maybe there's a correlation?

contaygious said:
Hi, my batter has been working great since Christmas, but now for some reason won't last more than a fwe hours without saying battery low. I have my gprs check email every 5 minutes, but it has always been that way and I have been gettnig a good 2 days out of my phone before.
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Mine is brand new (tmobile MDA) and when I enabled 802.11g I noticed a dramatic drop in battery life. I think for the sake of the battery I will only enable that as needed.
I wonder also if you are in the same proximity to the mobile towers, if you are on a border between coverage you will see a drop in battery life becuase it is transmitting more frequently to register with the mobile network.
To try to see if its your battery or something you are using, and while this may be incredibly difficult with a mobile, especially a mobile/pda that you use frequently, you may want to see about turning off features to see if that helps. Turn off wifi and see if that helps, turn off bluetooth and see about that, etc. Once you rule them out as the major culprit ...
While I highly doubt this may be the case, it is a possiblity, and worth looking into, especially if you noticed a sudden drop in battery life as opposed to a gradual diminishment. You may have some rogue software that is sending out more data via a wireless device than you desire. A worm, trojan, whatever. There are anti-virus packages available, I dont know how good any of them are, http://www.freecabs.de has some, some of the big commercial guys make some. Again I dont think its that becuase of the rules of probability, however it is possible and some have been known to exist in the wild for a few years now.

T,
I had the same thing with my c500, now I know they are two entirely different phones but after I flashed the device it was as good as new in terms of battery life.
It may be worth a try before you go and buy a new battery.
Marc

I have the same problem.
Not overclocking, no anti-virus, just regular phone use and my battery does not last a day!!
I keep it on charger most of the day to avoid shut-down.

me too
I've the same problem and I've an other big problem, when I turn off my Vario, it's dont't start on power botton (i must extract and insert a battery turn on the telephone).
We can make a test if anyone have a HTC diagnostic software (see service manual.pdf)

Check your today screen.
I too had the same issue. Mainly, PhoneDashboard was causing the battery drop. Along with any today elements that poll your hardware to display the amount of battery, memory and storage. Those all drain your battery.
To check whether it's really a today screen issue or not. Charge your battery to it's full 100%, remove ALL today screen elements, then use your mobile normally and keep checking the battery level drain rate.
Hope this was useful.

Mine dies, 100% when leave work, some usage and then dead in the morning.
I only have Pocketbreeze and a few plug ins installed.
There is NO wireless /bluetooth in that time.

KINetics said:
Just a question, but have you been overclocking your TI OMAP processor? Maybe there's a correlation?
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nope.
I have not been using wifi at all lately either
I have spb today stuff but have had them since I first got my wizard. really, I have not changed anything....

some programs "eat up" battery life. Investigate by doing a HARD reset, then do not install ANY software for two days. I bet you will see your normal battery life ;-)

I took all today programs off
100% at 5.30
32% at 7.30
This is O2 Mini Rom without all the 02 crap.
I will investigate further. Hard reset here we come!!

Last night my battery was 100% at 5.30 after a hard reset, no o2 software installed and very light usage.
This morning at 7.35 it was 50% which is good I guess???
Suggestions as to whether it is the battery?

byronsp said:
Last night my battery was 100% at 5.30 after a hard reset, no o2 software installed and very light usage.
This morning at 7.35 it was 50% which is good I guess???
Suggestions as to whether it is the battery?
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Still not good enough, should hold for 3 days if you do not use it. Get a battery replacement.
Typically I charge every other day, little phone talks however.

PhoneDashboard was causing the battery drop
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Ah, I run this. Is it bad? I've turned off all the scrolling updates etc - did you find that helped?

Got a battery replacement but still after no real use dropped to 50% in only 13 hours.
Any other ideas?

mine works for about 5 days normal usage with this options:
- phone on
- bt off
- wifi off
- automatically receive IrDa incoming... (Connections ->beam...)
so the wifi on my batt only last for a few hours, but when you disable wifi and the irda incoming you should have more batt. life

Thanks I will give this a try and have taken out irDA.
However my figures were with Bluetooth and Wireless off as well

I have noticed that with wifi on (and particularly if I'm using it) the battery drops at a frightening rate. Whereas with wifi disabled (which it's been for most of today - first day since I've had the XDA that I've been busy working and so haven't been 'fiddling' with it at all ) the battery still seems to be sitting happily at 80% after around 8 hours.
Funny, I thought that if the phone was suspended, the wifi would be inactive, so the battery wouldn't drop. Appears that's not the case...

Do u have Spb Pocket Plus installed? this program sucked my battery flat in 1 day. I removed it and now its up 2 or 4 days depending on how long i have wifi on. Checking email every 5 min also reduces battery life allot.
goodluck

No pocket plus... My today screen just has phmtray, resco today, taskplus, and the pocketmusic plugin...

Battery soon exhausted - case hot

Hi All,
I haven't seen this as an issue reported by othyers.
I graduated from an Artemis, which had good battery life.
My Orbit 2 runs down "quickly" (I know this isn't scientific), and the battery cover gets warm when using Tom Tom, for example, and the battery is down to 60% after an hour or so.
I feel it is not normal - any thoughts?

well, though TomTom sucks more energy from the battery, I don't think it's usual that the case gets hot. Mine doesn't. I would check for warrenty.
You could find out if the heat comes from the battery pack or the device itself. Then you might solve the problem using a new battery pack.
If you use TomTom offroad a lot you might me interested in the advanced battery pack with more "mA" which includes a double think battery and a bigger backplate.

SpiggyTopes said:
Hi All,
I haven't seen this as an issue reported by othyers.
I graduated from an Artemis, which had good battery life.
My Orbit 2 runs down "quickly" (I know this isn't scientific), and the battery cover gets warm when using Tom Tom, for example, and the battery is down to 60% after an hour or so.
I feel it is not normal - any thoughts?
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Check that Wifi power save mode is on "best battery".

Battery on my HTC touch cruise drains after a little more than two hours of using GPS.

SpiggyTopes said:
Hi All,
I haven't seen this as an issue reported by othyers.
I graduated from an Artemis, which had good battery life.
My Orbit 2 runs down "quickly" (I know this isn't scientific), and the battery cover gets warm when using Tom Tom, for example, and the battery is down to 60% after an hour or so.
I feel it is not normal - any thoughts?
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Are you using the official ROM or have you installed a cooked one?
Reason for asking is that I've read other posts where people have had batteries running down quickly after flashing cooked ROM. Way to fix that was to do a hard-reset immedialely after flashing the ROM.
The Polaris will get a bit hot if it's working hard for a long period of time.

Thanks so much for the replies - I feel better about it now!

3g also makes phone hot, if you're not using video calls turn 3g off it saves alot of battery.

You can't reduce the blacklight during using TomTom. So the battery life will be more than 3 hours in TomTom navigation.

If you are using HSDPA al lot..than it gets verry hot to.
And like other also told..wifi use is a big drainer and heater to!

sadax said:
3g also makes phone hot, if you're not using video calls turn 3g off it saves a lot of battery.
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Thanks for that.
I can see how to switch off HSPDA, but not 3g; sometimes the phone goes mad jumping between edge, 3g and HSPDA.
How do I switch of 3g?

In phone settings you can set the radio to GSM only.
Just lanch the phone app and then choose Menu->Options.
You can then access to the Network or radio Tab in order to desactivate 3G.
No matter with this setting if you don't use MMS or Mobile internet.

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How do I switch of 3g?
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Settings -> phone -> band -> select your network type -> GSM

Brilliant, many thanks.

Diamond 2 problems

Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?

Cairo_ said:
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
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Well, Its normal to get hot when taking a long call.. (10 min or more), but while in standby, it should NEVER get even WARM (mine stays cold as ice ) !!!
The power drain maybe is cuz your phone is heating.. The heat expands circuits and increase the power drain.

Cairo_ said:
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
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..the heating is normal!
Concering the battery drain is up to the rom and completly different!

cyron_at said:
..the heating is normal!
Concering the battery drain is up to the rom and completly different!
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Not normal if the phone is on stand by mode (And I believe that`s what he`s saying ) !!!

I just installed Copilot
the battery was 14%
after the installation ended and the phone restarted
it got about 4%
Also i used the MP3 player for around and hour the battery dropped about 20%
how's that?
or should i take it back? I'm still having the phone warranty

Cairo_ said:
I just installed Copilot
the battery was 14%
after the installation ended and the phone restarted
it got about 4%
Also i used the MP3 player for around and hour the battery dropped about 20%
how's that?
or should i take it back? I'm still having the phone warranty
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About using the MP3 player for 1 hour and drop 20%, its normal.
But, 14% then sunddely goes to 4% ? Thats not freaking normal...
Just take it back to warranty ok!

haranbh said:
About using the MP3 player for 1 hour and drop 20%, its normal.
But, 14% then sunddely goes to 4% ? Thats not freaking normal...
Just take it back to warranty ok!
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I wouldn't rush to send it back. It all sounds normal to me.

You must remember that the batteries will take a few weeks to attain full capacity operation.
Keep them on charge as much as you can (mains or car/plane etc), don't switch off at night, don't cycle them and don't drain them excessively.
If that does not give an improvement THEN take them back.
When I first got my TD2 I was appalled at the battery life and bought a spare battery. I have never used it.
And when they get warm it shows that they are happily being used or recharged and is no cause for concern.

Hi Cairo,
First of all, sorry for my english.
In my case, I bought my TD2 this summer, & I had some of these problems with the battery.
I'll tell you my steps, perhaps it could help you, if not, you must talk with HTC support.
First, use modaco's nodata to disable HSDPA/3G, use only GSM, it's much better to save battery. the link :http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Second: Active Sync.
You need a task manager to see notifications.
you must find one of the repllog event.
Use this http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm.
In notifications tab find "repllog AppRunAfterTimeChange" and disable it.
In my case I have disabled two events more, PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged and PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged1 and everything works fine.
After that, in process tab, if repllog appears, kill it, and in notifications tab find again the event "repllog.exe /remote /h",disable too, and use a reg editor (dot's taskmgr has one) and search in hkcu\software\microsoft\ActiveSync, find "KeepAlive" and you must change 1 to 0.
In this case, activesync will never start again, till you connect td2 to laptop or pc with activesync (it changes the value from 0 to 1).
I hope you could understand me and the info is ok for your td2.
Regards

pa49 said:
You must remember that the batteries will take a few weeks to attain full capacity operation.
Keep them on charge as much as you can (mains or car/plane etc), don't switch off at night, don't cycle them and don't drain them excessively.
If that does not give an improvement THEN take them back.
When I first got my TD2 I was appalled at the battery life and bought a spare battery. I have never used it.
And when they get warm it shows that they are happily being used or recharged and is no cause for concern.
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Thank you for the advice i did do what u said and noticed it became a bit better
makix13 said:
Hi Cairo,
First of all, sorry for my english.
In my case, I bought my TD2 this summer, & I had some of these problems with the battery.
I'll tell you my steps, perhaps it could help you, if not, you must talk with HTC support.
First, use modaco's nodata to disable HSDPA/3G, use only GSM, it's much better to save battery. the link :http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Second: Active Sync.
You need a task manager to see notifications.
you must find one of the repllog event.
Use this http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm.
In notifications tab find "repllog AppRunAfterTimeChange" and disable it.
In my case I have disabled two events more, PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged and PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged1 and everything works fine.
.
I hope you could understand me and the info is ok for your td2.
Regards
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Thanks a lot makix
your post were really helpful
i was looking for the way to disable HSDPA and i couldnt found it
Thanks a lot for your help

Hi Cairo,
the hsdpa is in Settings->More->Connections tab->Advanced Network and then u must disable hsdpa.
in settings->communications->phone->advanced->band
I've gsm and gsm(900+1800)umts(900+2100).
(my winmo & touchflo is in spanish, but i hope u can find the options )

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Hi Cairo,
the hsdpa is in Settings->More->Connections tab->Advanced Network and then u must disable hsdpa.
in settings->communications->phone->advanced->band
I've gsm and gsm(900+1800)umts(900+2100).
(my winmo & touchflo is in spanish, but i hope u can find the options )
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Thanks Makix
I disabled it
now my phone after one day of use with about 30 minute GPS of use
and 30 minutes of Mp3 and its 50%
better than befor

my Htc touch pro quickly consumes the battery power

my Htc touch pro quickly consumes the battery power, the battery lasts 8 hours, I don't use many my mobile I've run over by a new WM 1.6 but the problem persists and disable all type of connexion problem also persists
i buy another battery but the problem persists
any body have solution??

Which ROM are you using?

RobyMax1 said:
Which ROM are you using?
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the official ROM of HTC
_HTC Touch Pro_RUU_Raphael_HTC_FRA_5.05.406.1_Radio_Signed_Raphael_52.58.25.30_1.11.25.01_Ship.exe

You sure you don't have your Wifi or GPS turned on ? If you have that location service turned on, that uses you GPS I beleive... Those are the 2 things that kill that battery the fastest for me.... mt batterys typicalyl lasts 2 days using the Energy rom

Use Advanced Config 3.3 and enable all power saving features.
Disable 3G when not needed.
You should get more than a week standby time with stock battery.
Sascha

SaBo said:
Use Advanced Config 3.3 and enable all power saving features.
Disable 3G when not needed.
You should get more than a week standby time with stock battery.
Sascha
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Thanks, I'll try that. I usually get 2 days on standby.

Fred Doolie said:
Thanks, I'll try that. I usually get 2 days on standby.
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That`s very nice - I`m getting only one day :/ (though I`m using raph100 only for 4 days now). Maybe it`s because I`m doing so much stuff on it very often, make some benchmarks, 3D games, applications tests , customization, xandroid(one time a day for 5-10 minutes), etc... I`m using the newest Energy rom (20th of march).

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Maybe it`s because I`m doing so much stuff on it.....
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Perhaps. I meant 2 days from 100% to dead with all the radios *turned off* and phone just sitting there doing *nothing*. However, after a few cycles of draining the battery totally dead (the phone turns on and then shuts off right away) and letting it charge for 24+ hours I now only get a 10% power loss for each day of standby; even with the phone radio left on. Wifi kills the battery fast though. REAL fast. Maybe two hours of you tubing and it's dead.