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Short battery life on HTC, is this what you are seeing?

I've read a few posts on HTC Wizard battery life and I'm trying to quantify what I'm seeing (which is hard given varying conditions under which the device can be used and what features are active but I'll attempt that here). I'd really like to hear what other pepole are experiencing under similar conditoins.
I’m getting about two days worth of battery life before the unit is warning that the device needs to be recharged. Here’s what I’ve done with it over the past 2 days:
· 47 minutes time spent using the phone. I get the full 4 signal bars just about everywhere I go, including and the office and at home. I have not used the speakerphone at all.
· About 1 hour of PDA use
· Bluetooth and WiFi have been off. There was no GPRS use during this time.
· The screen brightness is set to the lowest level possible, one setting above the backlight being completely off.
· When on battery power, the backlight automatically shuts itself off after 30 seconds and the device turns itself off completely after one minute.
· I’m running Windows Mobile 5.0
The battery currently reads 18% after 2 days.
Is this in line with what other people are seeing?

I used to drain my wizard to about 50-60% in one day (from morning to evening), when I still let it go to standby, so that seems about right. It goes down a bit faster now because I always leave it on (just let the backlight go off of course) so agile messenger will stay online...
I'm pretty sure this battery life is pretty good for a pda phone though, you can't compare this to a regular phone.
I always connect it to the charger at night so it's no problem for me, and I bring a very small usb cable (like 15 cm) when I don't sleep at home. Usually there's an opportunity to connect the wizard to a computer somewhere so it'll charge, the computer doesn't need to recognize the wizard for that.

I need to charge my Wizard evry night, if it's friday with party etc alot of calls i need to have my samsung d600 with me becuase the qtek goes empty around 23.oo :/

Just done a typical "intensive" day, and I'm really pleased of that thing. Here's what I've done:
~50 min on the phone
~2h30 MP3 playing with TCPMP, LCD off of course
~30min e-mail and internet through wireless
obviously a bit more PDA use, cause uptime meter says 4h39 :wink:
I still have 54% battery at the moment.
Useful to mention, forgot to turn off wireless after browsing, so it stayed on for like 1hr with device off, and that still drains juice.
Backlight is set at the middle.
Once again, my BA would be dead by now. I had ~4h PDA use at standard clock settings, 2hr with wireless on. The Wizard just doubles both these figures. I definitely understand why they've dropped that guzzling XScale... wish there could be an optimised version of TCPMP soon though, video playback is the only thing where i see a real difference in speed, haven't managed to have a video playing smooth without hangups yet.
Skype doesn't run well, but it didn't either with the BA without overclocking it at the maximum it would hold, giving a stunning 1h30 battery life (with wireless on obviously). The device was really hot while doing this, and the standard charger would not give enough current even to power the device, battery was still going down when connected. Had to use a 2A Axim adapter to charge while skyping :shock:
So definitively a GREAT improvement.

I used my MDA Vario the other day and it went down to 18% in approx 4 1/2 hours.
Screen was at max brightness and on for the whole time,
Tom Tom running.
Bluetooth on
About what I'd expect. I don't think my Treo 650 would be much better in similar circumstances.

I just updated the other thread about the battery that up till now its been fine but two days ago the dreaded issue started with me too
I've just lost 20% in 3 hours without doing anything (its been off since)

AKU2 rom gives a definite improvement, I can have 85% left after a day of normal use.

meschle said:
AKU2 rom gives a definite improvement, I can have 85% left after a day of normal use.
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Which AKU2 rom. T mobile hasn't released one for my phone yet, to my knowledge.

The qtek rom, many vario users are using this rom out of frustration for t-mobile not releasing theirs.

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The qtek rom, many vario users are using this rom out of frustration for t-mobile not releasing theirs.
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Thanks

Hey if you upgrade the ROM you should run some tests before installing any applications. It would be a definite advantage to make sure it's not some buggy app that's causing your battery drain.

agreed... I think that is my issue too that it could be a memory leak somewhere in one of the programs
can only put it down to registrywizard, uptime, or resco, the latter i doubt very much though

I upgraded my vario to the newest imate rom and would totally recommend doing so.. my battery life is about double what it used to be now (may have installed something dodgy that was draining it though)
Its also much faster in operation and seems to be a lot more stable too (I suffered a lot from the random reboot problem previously)

what did you upgrade from?
and what rom version are you running? the ones on the ftp for kjam are numbered a bit strange and can be confusing

The numbers are confusing for me as a noob to WM5/wizard.
What is the difference between the Qtek & the Imate roms?

kilrah said:
... Useful to mention, forgot to turn off wireless after browsing, so it stayed on for like 1hr with device off, and that still drains juice.
Backlight is set at the middle. ...
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WiFi doesn't drain battery when the device is turned off, cause the WiFi module will also be turned off automatically - just test it: leave WiFi on and press the power button - after a few hours look at the effect on the battery... :wink:
I usually recharge my Vario every 3-4 days. Although I don't use WiFi and I also don't make many long calls I usually use GPRS always on to receive my mails. I also use BT quite often to listen to music over my A2DP headset - maybe one hour per day on average...
So there must be something wrong with the devices of some of the people posting here... :!:

[Solved] Battery usage

So im trying to figure out where my battery is draining to... I cannot go a full day on a battery charge and its really annoying at night it jsut dies and plus i cant really do too much on it for fear of battery drainig itself. Is there a way.. i can check to see what might be taking up battery
Wifi off
GPS Off
no 3G in the US
Bluetooth Off
Push Mail off... (though am syncing 3 mail accounts every 2 hours... minimal mail though)
Internet usage 30 minutes (besides, weather stocks)
Phone usage .. about 60 minutes in the day
Gyrator on
General usage.. games, tinkering etc (60 minutes... hey its still relatively new)
Appreciate the input.

Strange..
I've got two mail accounts, talked for 15 minutes with a bluetooth headset (been connected all day).
From 06 in the morning until now at ten in the evening I still have 7 bars on the battery. (three in the TF3D)
Consider doing a hard reset and set up stuff and see if that helps..

After tinkering for a couple of weeks, I hard reset and just put back on what I want. I also used Tweak HD which has a few tweaks to lengthen battery life. It made a big difference to me.
Orinigally it had drained in about 18 hours, afterwards it went slightly over 40 hours.

this is strange - i use my phone alot and it easily lasts 2 days
have you tried replacing it? when i bought my first diamond it was faulty, replaced it and batteyr life changed
also try flashing a stock rom on again and see what happens - less than a day - defo not right!

diamond v hd
had 3 diamonds, battery was lucky to last 10hrs, ate 2680mA battery packs like jaws ate boats!
HD, charge 1 every 2 days.... huge improvement... would love it to last longer, but its a million times better than the diamond and thats all that matters...
HD battery life in conclusion, is great, and i do hammer my phone usage!

I'm seeing similar battery issues as the OP. I barely make it through a 12 hour day on a charge, although I get a lot of e-mail on 2 accounts (one checked every 15 minutes, the other every 2 hours). In an effort to track down battery drain, I downloaded and installed HomeScreen PlusPlus and find that at rest with screen intensity at 60% my HD draws 150 mA, with the screen dimmed at 10% it draws 70 mA, and in standby (blank screen) it's drawing 30 mA. When the data connection is active, it draws between 250-300 mA, and when using the phone with screen on about 400 mA. I figure that with those numbers and a 1350 mA battery, 10-12 hours is all I can expect. If anyone else is monitoring their battery draw, I would appreciate seeing your numbers for comparison.

Oooh this is a good idea...
anyone else done homescreen++ to find battery drainage.. im going to get to it this weekend...

Have the same issue.... I have nothing special installed and for some reason it drains very fast on basic features.....

Same issue here
Recently I've been getting less than 12 hours out of a full charge. I've uninstalled a few things and turned bluetooth and wifi off and today it seems better with about 80% left after 10 hours
Vaguely considering a hard reset if the problem continues...

have fixed certain aspects now using the new version of Tweak HD

For our benefit.. could you please tell us...
1) your version of Tweak HD
2) WHat did you do to improve battery life
Thanks

Progress
So I installed Homescreen++ to be able to monitor my battery utilization... and im averagin 150mA to 350mA with it being closer to 300mA most of the time... no wonder I am getting 10-12 hours of battery life.. and this is with the device not doing anything.. except cehcking mail accounts.. NOTHING else...
I really need help with this.. every night at around 9:00pm.. i am without battery and its driving me nuts...
short of a hard reset... what can I do to monitor what programs or processes are taking up my battery?

I really feel your pain. I must recharge during the day everyday. I've ordered a second battery, but it hasn't arrived yet. I've done all I can do with HD Tweak and Schap's Advanced Config, even turned the screen brightness down further to no avail. I don't want to hard-reset, but I'm going to give that a try this weekend. Before I do, If any of you experiencing good battery life has a few moments and is willing to install HomeScreen ++, please post your numbers to compare to ours (mine are in a previous post). The download link is:
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_batterystatus_xda_neo_wm5_im_cs.htm#Download
It can easily be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" later.
Thanks in advance for your help; I am so enamored with this amazing device that I can't bear to give it up!

Battery life much better than my Kaisers...
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Apparently Batti uses a lot of battery (ironically).
I've just replaced it with Ariel battery and will let you know how it goes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364278

I'm not running Batti.
I have been through an Apache, a Blue Angel, a Hermes and most recently a Kaiser before springing for this amazing Blackstone. All my previous devices made it through at least a full day before requiring a recharge.
My ROM is 1.14.405.3 and Radio is 1.09.25.14

I'm thinking of springing for the HD, I currently have a Hermes. Battery life is a major concern of mine, and on my Hermes I had to purchase a larger battery with the extended back plate.
Does the HD turn off the screen when not in use or is it on all the time? Also how does it do with WiFi on?

ent_doctor said:
I really feel your pain. I must recharge during the day everyday. I've ordered a second battery, but it hasn't arrived yet. I've done all I can do with HD Tweak and Schap's Advanced Config, even turned the screen brightness down further to no avail. I don't want to hard-reset, but I'm going to give that a try this weekend. Before I do, If any of you experiencing good battery life has a few moments and is willing to install HomeScreen ++, please post your numbers to compare to ours (mine are in a previous post). The download link is:
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_batterystatus_xda_neo_wm5_im_cs.htm#Download
It can easily be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" later.
Thanks in advance for your help; I am so enamored with this amazing device that I can't bear to give it up!
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I've got the same problem of the battery draining... i've just installed the plug in to monitor the battery and it's showing me 450ma when using opera through gprs ...isn't it a lot?please let us know if the hard reset fixes the problem
thanks

Tonight's the night
Gonna hard reset the little fella

What about WCDMA/GSM/Auto? Which one is better for batteryusage?

Battery drain

Trying to figure out 1) cause of battery drain and 2) poor power mgmt.
I had a fully charged phone yesterday at 5pm, leaving work.
When I tried to turn it on this morning it was completely, completely drained.
I have 4min timeouts set on the phone for backlight off, and 5min for device off when on battery. I had WiFi tuned off, Bluetooth on.
I did have Wayfinder and GPS active on the way home, and may have just turned off the phone. If I turn off the phone with Wayfinder active, would this continue to drain the battery, GPS reception is passive, is it not ???
How come the battery drained to such an exent, it took 5 min on a charger before it would even power up, from a full reset and WM load.
My old XDA would hibernate at low battery percentage, and still have a reserve charge to keep the phone content/settings intact.
Any views, suggestions.
Peter

When I first got my x1 end of last year, I found I only got around 6 hours out of a battery.
Now I get about 36 hours of normal use out of one charge. Including 1 hour of gps each day/ half hour of wifi.
What worked for me was to, reduce back light time to 10 seconds when standalone. I also found S2U unlock drained the battery, so I now use the standard unlock.
Also, ensure that no auto updates (only manual) are done e.g SPB weather, insight RSS etc.
I have also changed my battery to a Mugen 1800 mAh. This seems to have increased my time by around 25% on average use.

S2U2 no longer drains my battery, one of the old versions did and so did the old version of AE Button but they are both good now, I get min of 2 days and max of about 5 depending on load of use... normal use is about 3... (internet for emails and dling rss feeds and some reading of forums 1 hour, reading books/texts about 4-5 hours and listening about 2hours plus calls and texts is a normal day for me...)
GPS does drain your battery pretty quick though...

pokdub said:
I did have Wayfinder and GPS active on the way home, and may have just turned off the phone. If I turn off the phone with Wayfinder active, would this continue to drain the battery, GPS reception is passive, is it not ???
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There is no poor power management in there.
It is all because of wayfinder. GPS is still active if you leave Wayfinder active all the time and it will drain the battery supoerfat.
Try closing Wayfinder and you will what I am talking about.

I found out that any Battery applications greatly reduces my (juridically - my wife's) X1i lifetime.
AFAIK to measure any battery charge you need to short circuit it for a millisecond or so and measure the current, not the voltage. When any Battery software does it (through the hardware) every few seconds your battery looses its charge faster.

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I found out that any Battery applications greatly reduces my (juridically - my wife's) X1i lifetime.
AFAIK to measure any battery charge you need to short circuit it for a millisecond or so and measure the current, not the voltage. When any Battery software does it (through the hardware) every few seconds your battery looses its charge faster.
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I am running Home++ and its fairly decent as far as drain goes... I dont notice much more than when its not running...

Tks for all your feedback.
I am fairly ok with normal use and battery life.
In this particular instance the drain happened so fast, overnight, and I was not using the X1 at all. (or so I thought so).
So I am curious to know what caused the rapid drain, and why the X1 does not have a more controlled low power close down.

pokdub said:
Tks for all your feedback.
I am fairly ok with normal use and battery life.
In this particular instance the drain happened so fast, overnight, and I was not using the X1 at all. (or so I thought so).
So I am curious to know what caused the rapid drain, and why the X1 does not have a more controlled low power close down.
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I have already explained. It was the GPS application that drained the battery, nothing else.
Just as a test try leaving it for as few hours running again and you will see.

battery drain
I do have the same effect. but I do not use GPS or wifi at all.
Sometimes it put the phone down, screen disabled and fully charged. No application running.
Next morning the battery is dead.
It happens about once every two weeks without any sign why...
My solution: I bought a desktop charger which is able to charge a second battery and simply exchange it, when this happens again.
Not ideal - but right now we seem to have to life with it.

do you have an old version of S2U2 or AE Button plus on your phone? And I have also read that batti used to cause drain problems... this might be the case with yours(?) if you have none of these installed then I am of not much help...

If u use Push email or active sync, Google sync Hotmail sync any Email sync on arrivel option ur battery will only last 5hours cause the phone is using mobile web at all times and constantly sending and recieving, turn it off an ur phone will last over 19hours with out charge... EG i turned my email sync off at 10am an the batt level was 60% didnt charge it till next day 11am when the batt levels drop to 20%

Is your X1 fairly new?
I experienced exactly this issue about a week after I bought my X1. No apparent reason for it, but the battery just drained right out overnight.
Strangely, the same thing happend about a week after I bought a HTC Touch Pro.
In both instances it has happened only the one time. Since then things have been normal, or drains caused by known software issues (like the buggy version of S2U2).

As earlier suggested, I loaded the Wayfinder app, with its GPS active.
I tuned off the phone when the app was on screen.
Left it for 3 hours, and there was a noticeable drain of the battery.
Lets hope the new WM 6.5 improves Power Mgmt, and has a more elegant low power handling.

Do you have G-Alarm installed? My Battery gets drained very fast when I have this installed. I tried many different versions within the last few month, allways the same.

I experienced this last night for the first time with my X1. I left the X1 on the bedside table at 11:30 with 90% charge and was awakened by the battery low alarm at 6:30 am (not good).
The only thing that I noticed that was unusual was that my X1 had been connected to the PC with ActiveSync in the connected state. I shut down the PC and then unplugged the X1. In the morning after the battery low alarm I noticed that the phone thought it was still connected. I use SPB Phone Suite and it was still showing the Cradle profile. This would not change in the automatic mode so I had to reboot the phone. Everything has been fine since.
So ... I am wondering if ActiveSync can sometimes go crazy and drain the battery more quickly??

I have a faster draining battery since i installed g-alarm. can anyone confirm that?

In my case I dont have G-Alarm installed.

Well my battery is not draining that seriously. it's ok i guess.
But maybe you should try what is suggested in the last post of this thread:
http://www.xperiax1.net/forum/x1-problems-issues/2113-another-kind-battery-drain.html

Deep discharge my X1-battery just almost doubled my battery life in average

Seafal said:
I have a faster draining battery since i installed g-alarm. can anyone confirm that?
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I have been using G-Alarm since the very moment I got my X1 and there is no noticeable battery drain. Lasts 3-4days.

[Sol] Maybe: Sdcard Powermanagement disabled gives me more batterylife

I have noticed one thing yesterday.
From the moment i had my Rhodium (2weeks ago) i installed advanced Config 3.3 on my Rhodium.
From the start i had the "SDcard power management" enabled.
Since then i had a terrible battery life, 20% loss in 3 hours so at the end of the day my battery was empty.
And did not blame the powermanagement of this.
Trying to locate the power loss i used acbPowermeter.
After two weeks i came till the conclusion that there was nothing which drains my battery.
True out the day i use my phone for just a couple off calls and sms messages.
3G is disabled because the poor reception.
Also auto weahter updates every 2 hours and my mail is also checked every 1 hour.
Bluetooth is always discoverble which does not effect battery drain more then bleutooth off.
Activesync is killed and Opera does realy close and used the nopushInternet tweak.
So after testing al these and more.
Even how much those apps uses de proc.
I had to try one more thing, disable the SDcard power management in Advanced Config 3.3.
And today that config change made me verry happy.
Normaly i start working at 5am and work till 3pm in that time the battery has lost 60% power.
And today i was supprised my Pro II had 91% power left.
So i just want to let you know that in my case the SDcard Power management f*****k up my batterylife.
Specs
HTC Touch Pro II
ROM-Vers: 1.19.404.1 (51489) NLD
ROM-Date: 06/22/09
Radio-Vers: 3.44.25.27
Engergy Info Tab says at 90% battery life:
Last fully charged
23:24 Thu 18aug 2009
Standby time:
18 hours and 40 minutes
Speak time:
1 hour and 4 minutes
Device Use:
5 hours and 4 minutes
I believe these specs aren't that bad because before i disabled the power management my battery would be emty in 16 hours.
So i hope that my findings will help you all.

Bluetooth is always discoverble which does not effect battery drain more then bleutooth off.
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Are you sure about that?
in most devices bt in descovery mode drains the hell out of the battery!
I always have my BT ON only, because thats all you need once you devices have been paired.

faria said:
Are you sure about that?
in most devices bt in descovery mode drains the hell out of the battery!
I always have my BT ON only, because thats all you need once you devices have been paired.
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Hey Faria,
First off all i still love your rom on my old wiza200.
Back ontopic:
As i found on the internet and my findings with the discoverble mode that it is not on all the time.
It only opens the BT pairing when a device want to pair.
After that it closes and acts as BT on mode.
BT does not sends it signal all the time.
But correct my if i am wrong
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If i may believe AcbPowerMeter the power drain with BT on and BT discoverble is nill and BT off against BT on is that it isn't a power drainer

Hey Faria,
First off all i still love your rom on my old wiza200.
Back ontopic:
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Wow!
As i found on the internet and my findings with the discoverble mode that it is not on all the time.
It only opens the BT pairing when a device want to pair.
After that it closes and acts as BT on mode.
BT does not sends it signal all the time.
But correct my if i am wrong
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If i may believe AcbPowerMeter the power drain with BT on and BT discoverble is nill and BT off against BT on is that it isn't a power drainer
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ha.. you mean you have it in a timed descovery mode. if that is the case then it is correct.
if i m not mistaking bt on only, drains less than 1% in 24 hours of the battery.

I get 7 hours of battery life and I'm a heavy user. I already have that option disabled. I need to improve this battery!!!

incredible!! your results are great!! any other detailed report, to clarify things a bit?? it would be interesting to have some data to elaborate some statistics and see what we come up with
in your fisrt post, you mean that you achieved the written results at the cost of only 10% battery life, or have I misunderstood it all??? if it's correct, wow!! °_° you have a nuclear battery! from 100% (and powermanagement enabled) I usually achieve 24 to 26 standby hours, 30min calls, 5 hours device usage (most of them connected on 3g). no bt nor auto connections of any kind.
thinking about it, it sounds a bit strange though: the OS is basically the same since quite a long time, and so the management of sd power (I think). so why would it do good (if enabled) on many devices, and not on TP2, having on the contrary such a bad impact on battery life?? I hope my question is clear enough!
since I'm no expert or programmer, I'd really like to have a little explanation by someone who really knows how these things work!
thanks a lot for the contribution, everything that may improve battery life even just a minute is super appreciated! best regards!

faria said:
Wow!
ha.. you mean you have it in a timed descovery mode. if that is the case then it is correct.
if i m not mistaking bt on only, drains less than 1% in 24 hours of the battery.
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Nope my is discoverble the whole time.
About the 1% drain i am not sure, but after i am done with testing we will see how much it drains our battery.
HeavyComponent said:
I get 7 hours of battery life and I'm a heavy user. I already have that option disabled. I need to improve this battery!!!
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I am still testing how to improve our battery and be able to do something with it.
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incredible!! your results are great!! any other detailed report, to clarify things a bit?? it would be interesting to have some data to elaborate some statistics and see what we come up with
in your fisrt post, you mean that you achieved the written results at the cost of only 10% battery life, or have I misunderstood it all??? if it's correct, wow!! °_° you have a nuclear battery! from 100% (and powermanagement enabled) I usually achieve 24 to 26 standby hours, 30min calls, 5 hours device usage (most of them connected on 3g). no bt nor auto connections of any kind.
thinking about it, it sounds a bit strange though: the OS is basically the same since quite a long time, and so the management of sd power (I think). so why would it do good (if enabled) on many devices, and not on TP2, having on the contrary such a bad impact on battery life?? I hope my question is clear enough!
since I'm no expert or programmer, I'd really like to have a little explanation by someone who really knows how these things work!
thanks a lot for the contribution, everything that may improve battery life even just a minute is super appreciated! best regards!
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I expect that my testing will be done with in two or three weeks.
Because i want to exclude every possible power drain and drain the battery till its empty to besure how long it takes.
Althought my battery isn't empty jet i will post some screens of the actual battery state.
And later this weekend when the battery is empty i will also post data of my findings.
With my tests i hope to save power and still be able to use the Pro II as its ment to be.
Or else it will be useless expansive plastic brick after 7hours of use time.
At this moment my battery has 43% power left.
And the last full charge was at 4am on 20-08-2009.
So its standby for a little over 54 hours. (current time 11:30am)
In my attached screen it say standby time 49 hours.
I do not know if this standby indication is the actual standby or what is left.
I mean that my Pro still has 49 hours to go.
Think there is a bug in de energy tab, but can not find anything on the NET.
This is what i have done the last 54 hours.
Why is tell you this? althought i am not an heavy user like many people here.
It maybe can help to compare my use with all you people.
- 4am 20-08-09: woke up and disconected my phone from the charger.
- 5am got to work, at work no provider connection so phone is searching for connection for little over 8 hours.
- 3pm got home, so now and then check the weather, play arround with new appz, had to put is some new appointments and contacts.
- Tryed some new reg tweaks, and took some pictures and make a short movie (1.39min) off the awefull weather over here.
- 10pm got to bed with 73% power left in my battery.
- Same story: 4am woke up and got to work to arrive at home at 3 pm.
- Did some checking on the weahter app, added a new contact, tryed some g-sensor games.
- And made two phone call about 10 minutes (not much for the last two days)
- Also send about 12 sms and 2 emails.
- Got to bed at 11pm and woke up at 10am with 43% power left in my battery.
- My mail is checked every two hours, no pushmail by the way
- I used the alarm function as my wake up call
I will let the battery drain completly and try some other possible power savers later this week.
And will post my findings over here including some findings i made with acbpowermeter and what effects background services or programms have on the battery.
At this moment i think i have charge my battery tomorrow morning if it does not shut it self off because of an empty battery over night.
If 4 days standby time is possible with little use then i'm not happy with the power drain.
Why: my wifes Omnia i900 is not used for over 3days (Backup phone at the moment) and has a been standby for 4,5 days and has 50% power left.
Okay i know i can not compare these two devices.
Because there different and we do not use the devices the same.
Later this weekend i will post what i have done and post some data and statistics.
And i will post which changes i made for my new tests week.
What i have done so far,
Energy settings:
-screenlight in battery power is full
-screen goes off after 1 minute
-device goes off after 2 minutes
Phone settings:
-band settings are set both to auto
Bluetooth:
-is set to discoverble
WiFi:
-Did not use it this test
Commanager
-Do not know whoe made it.
but is use the new commanger to quickly switch between 3G on or off.
Because in my area there is a poor reception of 3G
So currently 3G it is switched off
Advanced Config:
-sdcard powermanagment is disabled
-also the others mmc, nand, sim, async, pptp,l2pt
-Data connetions (gprs auto attach) disabled
-miscellaneous (auto daylight savings) disabled
Appz & tweaks
-manilla nopushinternet
-Opera wil close instead of minimize
-Activesync is killed by faking a server
-No2chem 1% battery bar
-Zuinigerijder TouchLockPro
-XDA-Developers GPRS 1 minute auto detechment
Rhodium settings tool:
-Auto rotation is off
-Power special tweak is switched off (next week testing it switched on)
So next week more data and background info

waiting to see the final results!!
btw, what is "power special trick"?? never heard of that.. sounds useful
the more minute of battery life we can obtain, the better!

how do you disable the sd card power management? i want to give this a try. also this is my first post and id like to say this site has alot of useful information!

any updates

I tried disabling and...well maybe there is some little improvement here, but I don't know if it's really because of this or if it's because of different patterns of usage during the days.. mine varies a lot.
as a raw comparison, it went from almost 60hrs standby and 5 of usage to almost 75 and 6 /6.5. both test with phone always on on 3g network, no data connections, no wifi, bt and such. just simple usage (documents reading, editing, tweaking, mostly PIM related tasks.
again, I'm not really sure it's power management related.. maybe V6Maniac did a more rigid comparison, mine's not worth it
waiting for updates
cheers

Palringo
Guys,
I am not a techie so dont flame me if what I say proves to be wrong.
When I installed cleanRAM and when went to the Customized Process List, I saw Palringo as one of the running processes. I remembered using Palringo on the day I installed it, but never after that, which is at least 10 days before. And it stayed there even after a day. Hence I decided to remove the installation and the process is gone now.
Now my batter is really good!!! I had a full charge by 6 pm yesterday and now it is holding at 84%. I did connect to Internet through WiFi for about 20 to 30 mins for skype call, updated weather and stock. Yet it is holding at 84%.
Let me observe it for few more days and let me come back to you if I find anything interesting.

it is known that certain programs are really nasty battery drainer. there's a recent thread somewhere reporting that a (maybe older( version of ESET mobile antivirus did the same. so we have another entry for the black list of abnormal battery drainer
thanks a lot!

Battery Drain HD2?

Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.

+1
-1% every 3 minutes
-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS

Crash95 said:
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-1% every 3 minutes
-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS
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I wish I got 2 days

we really need extended battery ,hd1 battery was much more better.

Good mate but yes i agreee HTC has come up with a battery eating device this time around. My device on full charge just gives in around 8-10 hrs. This might be dat my EDGE is on and 7 mails accounts sending mails back and forth.
but truly i think that HTC better look into this very seriously cause more and more ppl are suffering in this battery drain..
Any of flashing roms and radio not helping either... did a complete hard reset but no step up
HTC come with longer battery battery for bigger devices soon......
The only solution i see now is get one of those extra battery worth mind bogling £52.87

I've had this problem ever since flashing to 1.66, I flashed the radio to 2.07.50.27 as this was said to solve the problem but it hasn't made any difference after a few days of use. My battery life used to be significantly better when I was on the original stock ROM, so much so I'm considering going back to it
I also know all the tricks as to clawing back the battery drain, my phone is idle on my desk at work most of the time and I don't use Wi-Fi, all the location stuff is turned off as are weather, stock and other updates plus my screen is set to 30% then off after 60 seconds. Despite all of that I lose 1% every 2-3 minutes
It seems to me that perhaps the radio is checking for reception pretty much constantly rather than say, 5-10 mins perhaps? This used to be a problem on my old Blackberry Storm but a few fimware updates solved it, eventually!
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Suggestions/hints welcome! I've had a semi-thorough look into this on the forums and tried most of the suggestions but still the problem remains. Will battery life improve after a few charges perhaps as this was a trait of my Storm's battery, the more you charged it the better the day to day battery life was (and no it wasn't because I had it plugged in all the time! Over time the general charge just seemed to improve when roaming).
Thanks!

Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.

Hexjibber said:
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Thanks!
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That is a very interesting comment. Although since upgrading to radio 2.07.51.05_2 I have had very good battery life, I too have noticed a slowdown after 50%

romac said:
You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
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Nothing is turned on, everything is set to manual.
As I stated I know all the basic stuff. I understand that all these things have a bearing on battery loss.
Everything I stated in the first post is for when I have nothing running. The phone is just sitting there running sense, thats all.

I have had my HD2 for a few days now. I am on Vodacom in South Africa.
I have not had a problem with battery life.
Yesterday i unplugged from the charger at 07:00. I spent about 1 and 1/2 hours of talk time on the phone, it was permanently connected to 3g doing weather updates etc. Sent and received a couple of sms's. Also played with a few tweaks and reboots.
When i got home at about 18:00 i had over 30% battery. I then surfed the web for over 2 hours to drain the battery.

try setting Network Selection to Manual

Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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Same here with and without stock ROM.

yeah.. the phone is a battery sucker.... another cons of HD2....

This is very interesting to read because I do not have this problem. When I left my HTC HD2 on last night (I woke up at 4 in the morning to get something to drink and unplugged it) and then woke up at 8, it was at 98%. That means it went from 100% to 98% in 4 hours. Not to bad imo.
I am now at work and it is 15:34, and I am at 87%. I have made some calls, watched some videos, send a few text messages. Not much (I am at work so I got other things to do). So 08:00 (98%) - 15:34 (87%) - that's 7 and a half hours, with some calls, text messages and a video.
I am pretty sure when I get home at 18:30 the battery will still be above 75%. Then I connect to my wifi at home, refresh twitter, weather, browse the web a little bit, check e-mail etc. So that will drain my battery a little more.
But overall I have not had any problems with my battery life. I always make it trough a day, and never have a problem like 'damn my battery is almost done and I am not near a charger'.
Some info that might help:
I do not sync ANYTHING automatically. I still have some things to do with my Vodafone contract and do not have an unlimited plan yet. I only sync at home on my own wifi connection. For me this is not a problem, because I only need to refresh the weather each morning to see what the day is going to be like. Twitter I only do when I have the time. Stocks I do not use.
I have screen brightness set to automatic.
I am on 3G most of the time.
I am running the official 1.66 Dutch ROM.
I have some tweaks, games and programs installed.
I hope you all solve this issue, because it just can not be that my HD2 has a good battery life, and your HD2 not
Kind Regards
EDIT @ 17:00 still 87%.

I am in a 3G 2100 only network (I don't have 2G functionality).
ROM: Artemis 3.0
Radio: 2.06.50.23_3
Customization: Seiya 6.5.5
I don't leave any automatic updates on, except for my e-mail account every 2 hrs.
I never close my connection.
The drainage overnight is -3% (8hrs).
The battery lasts at least 12 hrs of intense usage.
Normally I have to recharge every second day (e.g. I charged last night, I answered a few calls, I did some IM and browsing and I still have 73% left).
For a phone with a 1 GHz processor, a 4.3" screen and a tiny 1250 mAh battery I find the drainage is rather decent.
Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.

27firesnake said:
Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
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I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?

maybe its also becouse some of us couldnt wait using the hd2 when they got it (like me) before it was fully charged for the first time
anyway my battery life has improved a little bit, i was at 74% this morning and did a lot of browsing, installing, tweaking and now its at 3%. it used to be much worse

I have battery consuming problem from time to time.I did everything:
installed new stock rom 1.66;
transfered all data which phone is using from card to phone memory(pictures,icons,sounds.etc...)
all updates are done manually;
Gprs connection is swiched off on the idle after one min;
One night it is loosing from 2 to 4%;
another from 30 to 40%
and it is eating memory from 10 to 15mb
I think that it is radio which is causing battery drainage so fast(to much communication wit a base stations,because when I am checking spb wireless monitor in the morning,there is no any data traffic.
I hope they can solve problem,because it is getting me mad and crazy

Try setting the screen brightness to 10-20% (on battery powered)
and dim backlight after 10 seconds (on batter powered).
It helps a lot, at least for me.

creed said:
I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
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as far as i know, the battery has an integrated digital circuit (ic) which estimates the state-of-charge (soc). the procedure resets/calibrates the ic to obtain a more accurate estimation. since the radio rom is in charge with the power management (among other things), by changing it you decalibrate the "gauge".
i don't know if i've got the theory right but i tested this myself and it surely works.