Hi All,
I haven't seen this as an issue reported by othyers.
I graduated from an Artemis, which had good battery life.
My Orbit 2 runs down "quickly" (I know this isn't scientific), and the battery cover gets warm when using Tom Tom, for example, and the battery is down to 60% after an hour or so.
I feel it is not normal - any thoughts?
well, though TomTom sucks more energy from the battery, I don't think it's usual that the case gets hot. Mine doesn't. I would check for warrenty.
You could find out if the heat comes from the battery pack or the device itself. Then you might solve the problem using a new battery pack.
If you use TomTom offroad a lot you might me interested in the advanced battery pack with more "mA" which includes a double think battery and a bigger backplate.
SpiggyTopes said:
Hi All,
I haven't seen this as an issue reported by othyers.
I graduated from an Artemis, which had good battery life.
My Orbit 2 runs down "quickly" (I know this isn't scientific), and the battery cover gets warm when using Tom Tom, for example, and the battery is down to 60% after an hour or so.
I feel it is not normal - any thoughts?
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Check that Wifi power save mode is on "best battery".
Battery on my HTC touch cruise drains after a little more than two hours of using GPS.
SpiggyTopes said:
Hi All,
I haven't seen this as an issue reported by othyers.
I graduated from an Artemis, which had good battery life.
My Orbit 2 runs down "quickly" (I know this isn't scientific), and the battery cover gets warm when using Tom Tom, for example, and the battery is down to 60% after an hour or so.
I feel it is not normal - any thoughts?
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Are you using the official ROM or have you installed a cooked one?
Reason for asking is that I've read other posts where people have had batteries running down quickly after flashing cooked ROM. Way to fix that was to do a hard-reset immedialely after flashing the ROM.
The Polaris will get a bit hot if it's working hard for a long period of time.
Thanks so much for the replies - I feel better about it now!
3g also makes phone hot, if you're not using video calls turn 3g off it saves alot of battery.
You can't reduce the blacklight during using TomTom. So the battery life will be more than 3 hours in TomTom navigation.
If you are using HSDPA al lot..than it gets verry hot to.
And like other also told..wifi use is a big drainer and heater to!
sadax said:
3g also makes phone hot, if you're not using video calls turn 3g off it saves a lot of battery.
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Thanks for that.
I can see how to switch off HSPDA, but not 3g; sometimes the phone goes mad jumping between edge, 3g and HSPDA.
How do I switch of 3g?
In phone settings you can set the radio to GSM only.
Just lanch the phone app and then choose Menu->Options.
You can then access to the Network or radio Tab in order to desactivate 3G.
No matter with this setting if you don't use MMS or Mobile internet.
@lber said:
How do I switch of 3g?
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Settings -> phone -> band -> select your network type -> GSM
Brilliant, many thanks.
Related
Hey again,
Had my vario for a couple of months now, but really getting annoyed with the battery now...
Charged it to full in the car this morning (11am ish) and now 15:30 it's dead.
It does have push mail enabled and has received around 20 emails, but surely this should kill the battery by then.. I wouldnt mind, but have been at the pc, so havent even switched the screen on....
any comments / advice?
I'm having the same problem with mine. Does the battery pack feel really warm even when it's not charging and just on standby. This is my second Vario, the first had a faulty keyboard latch, but the battery didn't get hot and it lasted for days on standby.
Its the Edge/UMTS/3G chip..
I had the same problems.
Since I switched to GPRSW instead of UMTS/Edge/3G connection my battery will do twice as long. Search for the free tool "BandSwitch" on these forums and you will find a solution to switch between GPRS and 3G without a hassle...
Regards
Apple*
Applestar said:
I had the same problems.
Since I switched to GPRSW instead of UMTS/Edge/3G connection my battery will do twice as long. Search for the free tool "BandSwitch" on these forums and you will find a solution to switch between GPRS and 3G without a hassle...
Regards
Apple*
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I can confirm more or less twice also for me. This is a wonderful danielherrero's idea, well developed from forum's suggestions and well coded from danielherrero
Applestar said:
I had the same problems.
Since I switched to GPRSW instead of UMTS/Edge/3G connection my battery will do twice as long. Search for the free tool "BandSwitch" on these forums and you will find a solution to switch between GPRS and 3G without a hassle...
Regards
Apple*
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Hmm... whilst that may work, it's one of the reasons I got the Vario is that it has 3g bandwidth, so to disable it to have more than a couple of hours batter seems crazy.....
sem92 said:
I'm having the same problem with mine. Does the battery pack feel really warm even when it's not charging and just on standby. This is my second Vario, the first had a faulty keyboard latch, but the battery didn't get hot and it lasted for days on standby.
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Cant say that it does, altho when using it, it does... how are t-mob in view of changing a faulty unit?
an0key said:
Hmm... whilst that may work, it's one of the reasons I got the Vario is that it has 3g bandwidth, so to disable it to have more than a couple of hours batter seems crazy.....
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Well it's a balance - the idea is not to disable it altogether but to switch it on when needed but not keep it on routinely. For example much of what I do does not need the bandwith and so it's only needed from time to time.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Well it's a balance - the idea is not to disable it altogether but to switch it on when needed but not keep it on routinely. For example much of what I do does not need the bandwith and so it's only needed from time to time.
Mike
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ok so basically 3 hours standbye use is acceptable?
an0key said:
ok so basically 3 hours standbye use is acceptable?
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you should get longer than that, you might have an application that is running and draining the battery, also try updating to the latest rom
good luck
R
rob61280 said:
you should get longer than that, you might have an application that is running and draining the battery, also try updating to the latest rom
good luck
R
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have had a look at the running processes, and has been running nothing today, still a pants battery.
As for the rom, am a bit dubious, as if I do that and it turns out to be a hardware problem, then surely that would void my warrenty?
sem92 said:
I'm having the same problem with mine. Does the battery pack feel really warm even when it's not charging and just on standby. This is my second Vario, the first had a faulty keyboard latch, but the battery didn't get hot and it lasted for days on standby.
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mine also feels warm when on standy. not using andy wifi bt or g3 or highspeed just the phone on standby. Only have had the thing work and hold charge and run cool a few times since I have it. Battery drains in a matter of 6-8 hours
i bought my phone in june and i was little bit angry to see, that the battery lasts only one day by normal using it without bt, wlan and gps only sometimes internet and phone. i went to my vendor and it was sent to htc 3 times to get it repaired back, but it still exists the battery problem. now i read, that some roms are less battery catcher than other. which rom is good for saaving battery life.
thank you very much or are there other tricks to improve battery life.
mfg
dietmar
dietmarlechner said:
i bought my phone in june and i was little bit angry to see, that the battery lasts only one day by normal using it without bt, wlan and gps only sometimes internet and phone. i went to my vendor and it was sent to htc 3 times to get it repaired back, but it still exists the battery problem. now i read, that some roms are less battery catcher than other. which rom is good for saaving battery life.
thank you very much or are there other tricks to improve battery life.
mfg
dietmar
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TC,
Are you using stock ROM or..? I've not change my phone's ROM yet and even until today, I get 3 days worth of normal usage (I charge my phone at about 20 ~ 35% range depending). I don't use it much for anything except being a phone, occasional web surfer, and very very importantly, an organizer/calender.
Also, do you leave applications running in the background? Do you close all of em? What is your brightness setting? How long does it take for your phone to dim the screen? Since I don't really care for 3G and HSDPA (couldn't even if I could), did you set it to GSM only? Do you turn off your phone module in signals with very low bars?
My point is, a lot of factors can affect battery drain, I hope the questions I've asked might help you better pinpoint what the problem seem to be. I wouldn't be surprised if the drain is due to the phone being in a constant 0 ~ 2 bar zone.
Cheers.
hello ,
thanks for writing back so fast
no i didn´t change or updated my rom with any roms which are able to be downloaded here. my phone was updatet when i brought it for analyzing in the htc shop.
i charge it always when it has nearly nothing anymore.
i use it for the same reasons you need. i use 3g because it was written, that gsm uses more battery than 3g
i always push down programs in the background only activesync is not easy to close
...... Do you turn off your phone module in signals with very low bars?
that i don´t know what you mean by "in signals with very low bars"
i also use mort player an windows player and by using these programs the battery drains a lot
thanks
dietmar
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
Cairo_ said:
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
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Well, Its normal to get hot when taking a long call.. (10 min or more), but while in standby, it should NEVER get even WARM (mine stays cold as ice ) !!!
The power drain maybe is cuz your phone is heating.. The heat expands circuits and increase the power drain.
Cairo_ said:
Hi
I just purchase Topaz
also i'm new to the windows mobile phones
I'm completely like the phone but i have a weird problem with it
while i use it i notice the battery produces too much heat that i can notice
the battery can be drained very easily with any action
I just turn off my phone it was 21% charge i noticed the heating issue
and i turned it on again and the battery was 14%
just to restart my phone i lost 7%
Is the heating issue normal?
The battery drain is it normal?
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..the heating is normal!
Concering the battery drain is up to the rom and completly different!
cyron_at said:
..the heating is normal!
Concering the battery drain is up to the rom and completly different!
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Not normal if the phone is on stand by mode (And I believe that`s what he`s saying ) !!!
I just installed Copilot
the battery was 14%
after the installation ended and the phone restarted
it got about 4%
Also i used the MP3 player for around and hour the battery dropped about 20%
how's that?
or should i take it back? I'm still having the phone warranty
Cairo_ said:
I just installed Copilot
the battery was 14%
after the installation ended and the phone restarted
it got about 4%
Also i used the MP3 player for around and hour the battery dropped about 20%
how's that?
or should i take it back? I'm still having the phone warranty
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About using the MP3 player for 1 hour and drop 20%, its normal.
But, 14% then sunddely goes to 4% ? Thats not freaking normal...
Just take it back to warranty ok!
haranbh said:
About using the MP3 player for 1 hour and drop 20%, its normal.
But, 14% then sunddely goes to 4% ? Thats not freaking normal...
Just take it back to warranty ok!
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I wouldn't rush to send it back. It all sounds normal to me.
You must remember that the batteries will take a few weeks to attain full capacity operation.
Keep them on charge as much as you can (mains or car/plane etc), don't switch off at night, don't cycle them and don't drain them excessively.
If that does not give an improvement THEN take them back.
When I first got my TD2 I was appalled at the battery life and bought a spare battery. I have never used it.
And when they get warm it shows that they are happily being used or recharged and is no cause for concern.
Hi Cairo,
First of all, sorry for my english.
In my case, I bought my TD2 this summer, & I had some of these problems with the battery.
I'll tell you my steps, perhaps it could help you, if not, you must talk with HTC support.
First, use modaco's nodata to disable HSDPA/3G, use only GSM, it's much better to save battery. the link :http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Second: Active Sync.
You need a task manager to see notifications.
you must find one of the repllog event.
Use this http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm.
In notifications tab find "repllog AppRunAfterTimeChange" and disable it.
In my case I have disabled two events more, PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged and PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged1 and everything works fine.
After that, in process tab, if repllog appears, kill it, and in notifications tab find again the event "repllog.exe /remote /h",disable too, and use a reg editor (dot's taskmgr has one) and search in hkcu\software\microsoft\ActiveSync, find "KeepAlive" and you must change 1 to 0.
In this case, activesync will never start again, till you connect td2 to laptop or pc with activesync (it changes the value from 0 to 1).
I hope you could understand me and the info is ok for your td2.
Regards
pa49 said:
You must remember that the batteries will take a few weeks to attain full capacity operation.
Keep them on charge as much as you can (mains or car/plane etc), don't switch off at night, don't cycle them and don't drain them excessively.
If that does not give an improvement THEN take them back.
When I first got my TD2 I was appalled at the battery life and bought a spare battery. I have never used it.
And when they get warm it shows that they are happily being used or recharged and is no cause for concern.
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Thank you for the advice i did do what u said and noticed it became a bit better
makix13 said:
Hi Cairo,
First of all, sorry for my english.
In my case, I bought my TD2 this summer, & I had some of these problems with the battery.
I'll tell you my steps, perhaps it could help you, if not, you must talk with HTC support.
First, use modaco's nodata to disable HSDPA/3G, use only GSM, it's much better to save battery. the link :http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Second: Active Sync.
You need a task manager to see notifications.
you must find one of the repllog event.
Use this http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm.
In notifications tab find "repllog AppRunAfterTimeChange" and disable it.
In my case I have disabled two events more, PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged and PushInternetScheduleTimeChanged1 and everything works fine.
.
I hope you could understand me and the info is ok for your td2.
Regards
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Thanks a lot makix
your post were really helpful
i was looking for the way to disable HSDPA and i couldnt found it
Thanks a lot for your help
Hi Cairo,
the hsdpa is in Settings->More->Connections tab->Advanced Network and then u must disable hsdpa.
in settings->communications->phone->advanced->band
I've gsm and gsm(900+1800)umts(900+2100).
(my winmo & touchflo is in spanish, but i hope u can find the options )
makix13 said:
Hi Cairo,
the hsdpa is in Settings->More->Connections tab->Advanced Network and then u must disable hsdpa.
in settings->communications->phone->advanced->band
I've gsm and gsm(900+1800)umts(900+2100).
(my winmo & touchflo is in spanish, but i hope u can find the options )
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Thanks Makix
I disabled it
now my phone after one day of use with about 30 minute GPS of use
and 30 minutes of Mp3 and its 50%
better than befor
After standby about 10 hours, my HD2's battery decreases from 100% to 71%.
Is this normal? Or I should get a battery replacement?
I'm using the 1.48 WWE ROM.
There's already a thread discussing that exact thing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=607873
Join in there.
with a bit of research in these forums you can find your answer and ways to make your battery last longer...
mine lasts more than 2.5 days with a single charge and normal use.
i have disabled 3G and data connections -when i dont need them- and i use flight mode during the night..
oh! and as johncmolyneux said, a bit of search never harmed anyone eh?!
Thanks for the information.
djngal,
What is ROM you're using? I always disable data connections when not use, turn on Power Saving. But overnight the battery is drained 30% .
And are you using G-Alarm? I doubt that G-Alarm causes this problem.
kengkaj.s said:
Thanks for the information.
djngal,
What is ROM you're using? I always disable data connections when not use, turn on Power Saving. But overnight the battery is drained 30% .
And are you using G-Alarm? I doubt that G-Alarm causes this problem.
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im using the stock 1.48 WWE and im also using g-alarm because it helps to put the phone out of flight mode in the morning and its also a great alarm compared to the buggy win alarm
during the night with flight mode on, mine consumes around 5% of the battery. i would suggest to try for a couple of days to use nodata app that it can be found on this forum, leave the phone on 2G so virtually using it only for calls as u would use a non smartphone ( ) and see how battery holds on. it should hold for 2 days with minimal settings like that...
i suspect that your reception might not be good at your home and the phone struggles to hold a 3G data connection therefore draining your battery..
if everything else fails, hard reset, leave the phone for a few days without any software installed and inspect the battery..
for me, a problematic battery would be the last place i would look...
i also think there are some apps that you can monitor your battery usage and which apps are consuming it, although i have never used it so i cant help u further with that...
good luck with troubleshooting and dont panic
djngal said:
im using the stock 1.48 WWE and im also using g-alarm because it helps to put the phone out of flight mode in the morning and its also a great alarm compared to the buggy win alarm
during the night with flight mode on, mine consumes around 5% of the battery. i would suggest to try for a couple of days to use nodata app that it can be found on this forum, leave the phone on 2G so virtually using it only for calls as u would use a non smartphone ( ) and see how battery holds on. it should hold for 2 days with minimal settings like that...
i suspect that your reception might not be good at your home and the phone struggles to hold a 3G data connection therefore draining your battery..
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Many thanks for the suggestions, much appreciative.
So I think G-Alarm has nothing to to with the battery life in this case.
I'm using NoData, and I always use 2G because in my country 3G is not fully supported. I'll try to turn on Flight mode.
kengkaj.s said:
Many thanks for the suggestions, much appreciative.
So I think G-Alarm has nothing to to with the battery life in this case.
I'm using NoData, and I always use 2G because in my country 3G is not fully supported. I'll try to turn on Flight mode.
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Haaa! I´d like to have your problem with 3g In my hometown theres only 3g.. can´t change to 2g..
my Htc touch pro quickly consumes the battery power, the battery lasts 8 hours, I don't use many my mobile I've run over by a new WM 1.6 but the problem persists and disable all type of connexion problem also persists
i buy another battery but the problem persists
any body have solution??
Which ROM are you using?
RobyMax1 said:
Which ROM are you using?
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the official ROM of HTC
_HTC Touch Pro_RUU_Raphael_HTC_FRA_5.05.406.1_Radio_Signed_Raphael_52.58.25.30_1.11.25.01_Ship.exe
You sure you don't have your Wifi or GPS turned on ? If you have that location service turned on, that uses you GPS I beleive... Those are the 2 things that kill that battery the fastest for me.... mt batterys typicalyl lasts 2 days using the Energy rom
Use Advanced Config 3.3 and enable all power saving features.
Disable 3G when not needed.
You should get more than a week standby time with stock battery.
Sascha
SaBo said:
Use Advanced Config 3.3 and enable all power saving features.
Disable 3G when not needed.
You should get more than a week standby time with stock battery.
Sascha
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Thanks, I'll try that. I usually get 2 days on standby.
Fred Doolie said:
Thanks, I'll try that. I usually get 2 days on standby.
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That`s very nice - I`m getting only one day :/ (though I`m using raph100 only for 4 days now). Maybe it`s because I`m doing so much stuff on it very often, make some benchmarks, 3D games, applications tests , customization, xandroid(one time a day for 5-10 minutes), etc... I`m using the newest Energy rom (20th of march).
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Maybe it`s because I`m doing so much stuff on it.....
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Perhaps. I meant 2 days from 100% to dead with all the radios *turned off* and phone just sitting there doing *nothing*. However, after a few cycles of draining the battery totally dead (the phone turns on and then shuts off right away) and letting it charge for 24+ hours I now only get a 10% power loss for each day of standby; even with the phone radio left on. Wifi kills the battery fast though. REAL fast. Maybe two hours of you tubing and it's dead.