Voice dialer program (Cyberon SD vs MVC) - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

I currently have Cyberon Voice Dial installed on my JAM, but I have heard enough good things about MVC so I am tempted to give it a try.
Right now I use Cyberon to do BT voice dial with my Moto HS850 headphone, and Cyberon works fine. But it's a little lacking in terms of capability, and you have to record voice tag for every contact you try to call (or application you try to open). I think MVC goes a little further, where it 1/ recognizes voice automatically, no need to record voice tags, and 2./ it does more ... for example, other than calling a person I can open the contact, and it can also announce the upcoming schedule to me, so on and so forth.
After reading a lot of stuffs on this forum though, it seems that regardless of Cyberon or MVC, the HW limitation of the Magician will NOT allow audio to be streamed to, or from the BT headset.
When I drive, Cyberon has no problem picking up and recognizing my voice if I put the phone nearby, so I'm not as concerned about streaming of voice FROM the BT headset.
However, if I cannot stream audio TO the BT headset from the Magician, then it greatly affects the usefulness of MVC. I can no longer ask it to 'announce' next appointment, or announce a contact etc.
In fact, it gets hard to interact with MVC. For example, I say "Call so and so", and it's supposed to ask me "Home, mobile or work" ... but I won't hear that if it's not streamed to the BT headset.
OTOH, Cyberon is much cheaper (well, it's free ... MVC is not) and takes up less $$ ... I just wonder without streaming of audio to/from the BT headset, is MVC still that much more useful than a simple, free Cyberon speed dial program to justify its price tag.
Too bad MVC doesn't have a trial version, so I gotta ask you guys from your experience if it's worth it or not.
thanks in advance,

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MS Voice Command still does not work through Bluetooth

I changed the path to voice command in the registry (HKLM/Software/OEM/VoiceCommand/ Path=\Program Files\VoiceCommand\voicecmd.exe), but my Cardo Scala-500 headset still does not activate Voice Command. I searched extensively, was not able to find how to make them talk to each other. Any ideas? Anybody else using MDA+Scala-500 combination with Voice Command successfully? I am on the last official T-mobile ROM.
I don't know if it is anything related. When I first paired my Wizard with a Motorola Bluetooth, the pairing process says it is hands free device. However, it will not do voice dial. Then I tap long on the selection of this device in Bluetooth configuration and bring up the menu. In the menu, I select make this device the default hands free. Afterwards, it will work with voice dial.
You need to check to see if that headset supports voice dialing. I beleive that there are some out there that don't.
The "Hands Free" checkbox is checked on the device. And the manufacturer says it does support voice dialing. Anecdotal evidence (online search) also says that some people were able to use MDA with this headset and MS Voice Command.
Can it be a function of my ROM or any radio versions? They are in my signature if it matters.
Also, the headset has "Bluetooth version: 1.2 Class2". I do not know what that means, maybe that is why I think it may matter.
Different headsets behave in wildly different ways when it comes to activating voice dialing. My Moto HS850, for example, activates VC on the second push of the button, and you can tell at the same time it is pulling all sounds from the phone so you can hear the "bling-bling"... and then it takes its sweet long time in allowing the phone to return to normal so you cannot use VC again until that happens. My Bluespoon AX2 is different, in that it works every other time, and my Jabra BT800 just plain doesn't even work.
I suggest you play around with the BT config in your phone to see what works best for you.
I tried one click, double-click, tripple, and push-and-hold - nothing works.
Also, just tried a colleague's headset (Jabra JX10), it does not activate Voice Command on my Wizard either. I am going to talk to the manufacturer of my headset, see what they say.

BT voice command: Cyberon, MS voice command - solution!!!

Hi all!
I'm quite new to this forum and even though I've read every single post about the bluetooth issue obviously evident on the HTC TyTN and all the tweaks regarding disabling the cyberon speed dial in the registry and installing MS voice command and later on Cyberon Voice command, I never got the whole bluetooth voice command thing going perfectly, like many others I guess...
I could get the music playing trough my SE bluetooth headset, with all the controls working perfectly, and I could use the hardware button for voice dial, but the feedback of commands from the voice command program would never play up in the ear phones, even though it recorded my commands in the microphone and would actually call my contacts if I had the TyTN in front of me to time in and watch the top icon to see when the microphone would pop up after the keypress on my headset... Music would play perfectly but the voice command was never problemfree......
I finally uninstalled all voice command programs and went back to the included cyberon speed voice dial which works very well. I just record in my 20 or so contacts into Cyberon Speed dial and then get the connection seamlessly from my bluetooth headset and microphone when wanting to make a call with the headset!
I can listen to music all the way to uni and recieve calls and actually press the headsets voice command button and recieve + place perfect calls with the music commin back on right after my finished call!!!! FINALLY!! And I dont really mind recordin in, what like 20 names...
So to all newbs like me, don't tamper with all the registry hacks and dlls here and there, just record some contact names in cyberon speed dial and use ur favourite bluetooth supported media player (like pocket player or so, with some bluetooth enabling downloads) and enjoy true handsfree!!
PS. Sorry for the long post, and sorry if I'm repeating already given advice...

8525 and Voice Dial with Headset Problems

I have been using the voice dial option on my Cingular 8525 without any problem since day #1 and it is great, especially after downloading that file on XDA that allow me to reprogram the 5th pushbutton for voice dial.
I also admit that i am knew to the headset arena, having just purchased, for voice dial and incoming calls, the 'Jawbone' device, which was highly rated on CNET and PCWorld.
It doesn't work. What I mean is it rings and I can answer phone calls and it sounds OK, but when I go to voice dial out, the phone either gives me a message that it didn't understand my request or I get a wrong phone number. Failure rate on voice dial is 98%.
The manual says to rerecord the voice tag with the Jawbone on, for maximum effectiveness. so i turned it on, put it on, went to voice dial and just re-recorded the voice tags, still with 98% failure.
So, is this how it is with the 8525 and ALL headsets or do I return and try a different headset? Are there tricks to get this working? If I could just get 10 numbers to work, that would be 75% of my calls. Thanks.
Doesn't anyone use a headset with their 8525?
I hope someone posts an answer...please.....
I've been using a Southwing SH310 Bluetooth headset with my Cingular 8525 and Custel's WM 6 for several months now without probs; position can sometimes be tricky for VoiceDial and/or Voice Commander to work well, but once in the correct position it's good. I have found, however, that Bluetooth devices, especially the high end ones that are particularly sensitive, can have problems with external noise, i.e. wind and car noise when driving, etc.

Is using MS voice command through BT hands free possible?

I've done some searches and not found anybody who manages to use MS voice command through a hands free headset.
I've just bought a parrot bluetooth hands free for my car. I'd hoped to be able to use MS voice command for voice dialing. I get the actual phone call through the hands free, but the voice prompts for VC come through the phone and the mic on the phone is used for voice recognition.
I've read people hacking about to get all audio through the hands free, but the hack I've seen disables VC.
Does anyone know if it's possible? Or is there any other software that can be used for voice dialing through the hands free. I'm guessing not if it's htc bad implementation of the bluetooth stack.
Cheers
it is definitely possible - if with BT handsfree you mean bluetooth headsets. With my Jabra BT620s i could use MS voice commander 1.6 and give instructions....it ALMOST works, in the sense that it technically does the job but, at the end, i didn't like it: too sensitive to noise and to....my english....
andrewpmoore said:
I've done some searches and not found anybody who manages to use MS voice command through a hands free headset.
I've just bought a parrot bluetooth hands free for my car. I'd hoped to be able to use MS voice command for voice dialing. I get the actual phone call through the hands free, but the voice prompts for VC come through the phone and the mic on the phone is used for voice recognition.
I've read people hacking about to get all audio through the hands free, but the hack I've seen disables VC.
Does anyone know if it's possible? Or is there any other software that can be used for voice dialing through the hands free. I'm guessing not if it's htc bad implementation of the bluetooth stack.
Cheers
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I have the same problem - has anyone found a fix?
Incoming calls are fine, also connections that are made after the initial user-to-phone command.
I also have a diamond and this operates just fine ie the MSVC prompt comes through the bluetooth OK.
Thanks
PS yes, I have tried changing HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway
BTAGExtModule =vcbthag.dll to BTAGExt.dll

Voice Dialing Application for HD2 - Available?

Correct me if I am wrong, but there is no built in voice dialing capability tools included with the HD2?
I would like to be able to (like I have with the last 2 HTC Smartphones) be able to voice dial a contact over a bluetooth headset or car unit....
Any recommendations, or is this feature hidden somewhere that I simply have to activate? If there is an app I can get, preferrably free, please advise. Thanks!
Microsoft Voice Command is probably the best out there... its almost uncanny how you can just talk to your phone and ask it stuff with no training.... Call blah blah blah.... what are my apointments? .... open file explorer.... etc etc etc....
I use it with a bluetooth headset all the time to make and receive calls all the time.... calls received will have the caller's name read to me via BT headset
Thanks, so nothing is included with the HD2 then correct? Is there a free version we can get for our HD2 here or elsewhere of Voice Command?
eskasi said:
Microsoft Voice Command is probably the best out there... its almost uncanny how you can just talk to your phone and ask it stuff with no training.... Call blah blah blah.... what are my apointments? .... open file explorer.... etc etc etc....
I use it with a bluetooth headset all the time to make and receive calls all the time.... calls received will have the caller's name read to me via BT headset
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eskasi said:
Microsoft Voice Command is probably the best out there... its almost uncanny how you can just talk to your phone and ask it stuff with no training.... Call blah blah blah.... what are my apointments? .... open file explorer.... etc etc etc....
I use it with a bluetooth headset all the time to make and receive calls all the time.... calls received will have the caller's name read to me via BT headset
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And that's on an HD2?
MSVC is pretty much the best out there...the other alternative is the Cyberon Speed Dial, but you do have to record for each contact.
eskasi said:
I use it with a bluetooth headset all the time to make and receive calls all the time.... calls received will have the caller's name read to me via BT headset
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Which MSVC version are you using?
I've been having strange problems with my Blueant Supertooth light and MSVC 1.6.
The problems are:
- My Blueant doesn't terminate the connection after calls, the lights and speaker just stays on eventhough the call has been terminated.
- No incoming call announcement from the blueant device.
- Sometimes when I press the call button on my BT device, voice commander responds on the phone's speaker??
Weird... I didn't have the above problems with my TD, although I never could get the incoming call announcement to work as well.
on the same lines, is there any application to type what you speak? This way we could use speech to text instead of using the keyboard!
It is a huge letdown that the HD2 does not already INCLUDE a voice dialing application like the past several HTC phones have had, for years.
HTC needs to step up the plate and both provide this and make sure that bluetooth voice dialing protocols are in place.
Has anyone used the Cyberon app yet? I believe the one is called "Voice Dialer" and the other is called "Voice Commander", not sure what the actual difference is or if either work fully on the HD2.
Hi. I'm using Cyberon Voice Sped Dialer on my HD2 and have set up my voice dals.
However, when I go to use the voice dial I only every get the 'tone' through the phone speaker and no longer through my BT headset. I have a Jawbone 2 BT headset.
My Touch HD worked fine with it and you could dial using voice through the headset but I no longer can on the HD2.
Is there a way to fix this? Do I need different software or is it just one of those things?
Thanks.
Owen.
Hi,
Im having the same problems with my HD2 device. I have a parrot bluetooth carkit and with this new device it doens't work like it should because there is no voice dialing.
I've tried several programs like Microsoft Voice command and other voice command programs like VITO voice command and Cyberon.
Is there any program that just looks like the voice dialing on the HTC Diamond? I just want to record my own voice and use it with my bluetooth carkit.
Thanks,
187ed187
The problems with bluetooth is down to the HD2 using a widcomm bluetooth stack as apposed to a microsoft one. I personally havent found a voice dialing app that will work with the widcomm stack.
So what do we do now? I really love this phone but this is a huge problem for me...
Good question.... experiment!? E-mail voice recognition manufactures?
I have cyberon voice speed dial 1.2
I cant get it to work through my BT but I have sort cut on home that I press and it opens all my progs and dial contacts, one of the best things about my phone now I love that it opens all my programs...
I used to have a n95 and this put an auto voice tag on each contact and worked through any BT, shame the HD2 hasnt got an app that can do that ... and open my progs..
I'm also still waiting for a solution.
I have 2 bt handsfree devices on my 2 cars (Parrot and Blueant)...and MSVC only works for the first try after a soft reset.
After the first go, MSVC just goes thru the phone's mic and speaker. Very annoying when you still need to hold the phone up while driving AND you have a bluetooth handsfree device.
optiknerv said:
The problems with bluetooth is down to the HD2 using a widcomm bluetooth stack as apposed to a microsoft one. I personally havent found a voice dialing app that will work with the widcomm stack.
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Is it possible for someone to cook a ROM with the MSFT bluetooth stack? Or is that too hardware/driver dependent?
You guys should check out the threat with the name: Voice Dial Removed! WTF?
Since I cannot post links yet I can't post the exact link but I'm sure you guys are able to use the search function on this website
Someone claims to have found a working solution for the problem, it's on the second page of the thread.. I'm going to test it right now
Edit: IT WORKS!! At first holding the call button didn't work for me, so I followed the instructions on the first page and now it works!!
Link :
Voice Dial Removed! WTF?
About to try it, hope it works with BT voice dial, if not then Duttys WM6.5 works as well as it can and includes the long press fix as standard.
Owen.
To install .CAB according to order of their numbering.
Do not forget to put a tick in Audio-adjustments sets (' To reproduce system sounds on removed set ').
I did not check it by myself yet.
I tried to make ONE .CAB but did not find apropriate software.
Let's try this way.
wandel said:
To install .CAB according to order of their numbering.
Do not forget to put a tick in Audio-adjustments sets (' To reproduce system sounds on removed set ').
I did not check it by myself yet.
I tried to make ONE .CAB but did not find apropriate software.
Let's try this way.
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I have succeeded to activate the CVSD with BT Headset button press with the "4_CVSD_1.2_build_61226_1_BTHeadsetFixed.cab" given in the mail above.
But I can not hear the Voice Tag of the contact from the BT Headset but from the speaker of the HD2 as a confirmation to my speed dial speech.
And I have to check the screen when dialing started if I am motocycling
Any proposal to fix that little problem?
TUNCAYCETIN said:
I have succeeded to activate the CVSD with BT Headset button press with the "4_CVSD_1.2_build_61226_1_BTHeadsetFixed.cab" given in the mail above.
But I can not hear the Voice Tag of the contact from the BT Headset but from the speaker of the HD2 as a confirmation to my speed dial speech.
And I have to check the screen when dialing started if I am motocycling
Any proposal to fix that little problem?
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Can you give us a little more information? Which ROM ver? Which other soft you installed? Did u use: 1_CyberonVoiceSpeedDial_1_2_b080227_0R3.cab ?
Isn't there an option in the BT setup, sending all systemsounds to BT?

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