any help is gratefully received.
i was doing a rom update(pugs) and the unit has become stuck in what i think is bootloader mode. the screen is dark and displays "serial v1.01
after much searching on this forum i tried to hard reset then run maupgradeut again.
problem is that activesync no longer detects my device.
ive tried pressing power/reset/action buttons to no effect.does this mean i now have a pretty coffee coaster.
now you were at bootloader mode. try remove the device n put it back on cradle, for sure windows will detect it. after that, try run the upgrade again. The problem that you're having now are same like me when I first bought my device. The answer is good being a newbies n ready to ask question at here. hahahahah
thanks
now youve hit the nail squarely on the head. i thought i knew enough to update but when its gone boobies up realised i dont.
ive tried resetting the device and then connecting to my pc several times with no success.
anyone know how to take the device out of bootloader mode. im hoping theres a backup stored on the device that will boot...or...anyone know how to get the pc to recognise the damn thing before i launch it out of the window(all the way to an o2 shop).
im sure im not alone(can hear the voices)
took some brain power on my part. turns out microsoft activesync was the problem.
upgraded to the latest version and everything went as it should.
Hi, this is my first post on this forum after going through it for days, and i think i can ask this question without being referred to a wiki or previous post related to my problem. Here goes:
So i just bought a (second hand) QTEK S200. Now, when the guy i bought it from demonstrated it worked flawlessly, but when i got home and reset the whole thing, i can't get bluetooth to work properly.
Let me just note that i've worked with plenty pda's before and have a pretty good (intermediate) knowledge about bluetooth (had a nokia 6680 before, bluetooth heaven btw).
So when i go to settings>connections>bluetooth and i turn bluetooth on (wich works, the blue leds blinks) i try to install a few bluetooth devices (none installed so far), so i click devices>new partnership. It starts to search for devices and show them with theire mac address, he doesn't want to show the device name like all bluetooth enabled device do.
But ok, nevermind that it could be somekind of feature, you never know. So ok i recognize the device i want to add (only two showing, the gps and my pc) and click on it to install it. It asks for the pass, and here i notice that the blue led isn't blinking anymore, so i enter the correct password for the gps (i've added him thousands of times on my ex-cellphone and my GF's cellphone, the code is 0000, like almost all gps mouse) but then it says that the password is incorrect. I try multiple times and nothing.
So ok, i notice the flashing blue led stopped so i re-enable the thing and try again, this multiple times again with the same result.
But then i tried tricking it to keep the blue led flashing, i was trying to make the pda connect to the internet through usb, and that way i got in the settings>connections>connections menu. When i press the 'Add a new modem connection' link you can select a modem that runs on bluetooth, so i got the idea to try and add the gps through this menu. This time it worked, the devices found showed the correct names, and i could add them OK.
So happy as i was i added the com ports and such, all worked ok. Then i started tomtom6, all good, i added the gps with no problems, but when i actually got to navigate, the bluetooth connection dropped constantly, always like: no gps device found for like 40 seconds, then it resumes the navigation and 5 seconds later the connection gets dropped again, so this goes on in a loop forever i guess (tried it about an hour).
Oh, and working with that Comm Manager program doesn't help, i don't think it even works properly, that program doesn't know if the bluetooth is running or not, it just remember the state the button was in last, or something, cause it almost always indicates that the bluetooth is running without it actually running, so i click on it, it 'shuts down' the bluetooth, and when i click on it again, the bluetooth then works for real.
So my conclusion was, i need to get a working firmware or whatever there is some software-related problem here. Because the hardware does actually work, maybe not for long, but it does when it does.
Also, i feell like the pda is running in slowmo, slow reaction times (i know it's not a uber fast device, but sometimes it's really ridiculous how long i have to wait for a program to boot up, or just pressing the start button)
So i checked out the wiki to see if i have a G3 or G4 chip, so won't ruin the s200 when flashing it.
But i just can't make out if i have the G3 or G4. I suppose i have the G3 because SPL shows: 2.09.0000 (all zero's, but 4 of them) but the IPL shows 2.09
everywhere i read about those digits they always compare it to *.*.0001 for the spl and ipl. But there is no 1 at the end! Does this 1 matter? Or is it just the 4 digits at the end?
So this is what my screen shows on the boot up:
IPL 2.09
SPL 2.09.0000
GSM 02.07.20
OS 2.9.7.24
I think this is pretty old.
And another problem (this just doesn't end!) the SD card reader doesn't always show the storage card! I mean like, this is so basic, i don't understand why it doesn't, i've tried with multiple cards, on my pc it works but on the S200 it doesn't.
I hope someone can help me.
I'm also looking into unlock the CID first, and ofcourse it all depends on the type of chip i use, can somebody please confirm what i have?
Also, since all the roms have been removed, and there are soo many, wich is the right one for me? What are those AKU roms? Are they compatible with g3 chips? I don't really know the difference, how does this work?
/edit: ok found out what those aku roms (just updates?), but what then is the difference with the other roms available? And the sd card reader still doesn't work, it's been hours now, i've tried everything. Please someone, help!
Maybe i should shorten my first message:
Bluetooth drops the connection constantly, when i search to pair a device on the s200, when the search is over, the bluetooth shuts down (blue led stops flashing) and i can't add the devices it found, wich is logic, how can you make a connection when bluetooth is disabled? How do i keep bluetooth enabled no matter what? While still being able to shut it down manually.
Comm Manager doesn't work properly (bluetooth shows on when it's off and vice versa)
My SD card reader suddenly doesn't want to work, tried multiple cards, and simultaniously checking them on my computer card reader.
Sometimes slow respondtime.
I've tried everything multiple times, with multiple hard resets.
There's no software installed, everything been tested on a 'clean machine'.
Would upgrading the ROM (wich rom?) solve my problems? And how would i go about that? I've read the wiki but i'm none the wiser (half of the links don't work, i've read the post that everything's been taken down)
Why thank you for all the help. Thought i would at least get a "sorry but it seems your ... is defect you will have to replace it" or "here [link] you will find similar stories with a possible solution"
anyways, to update my post, i rma'd my s200 and it's been two months and two weeks since.. is that normal?
As a new O2 xda exec user, I thought I should play safe and upgrade to latest ROM etc on the O2 web site. After a couple of false starts and after checking the excellent wiki advice, I got the thing to run through and complete the upgrade.
But on doing the final hard reset, I find myself with a completely garbled screen instead of the O2 splash screen. After a couple of seconds the 3 lines of text appear on the screen (the R, G and D numbers) but against the background 'snow' I can't read them. No response to keyboard or to 'random' pressing the screen. The screen eventually turns off after a few minutes but when switched back on remains with the same garbled screen as before.
Tried going through the whole process again but sadly got the same result.
Tried going into bootloader and doing a soft reset (as advised one of the many upgrade problem threads I've checked) but that also took me to the same garbled screen.
Can anyone help me out with this? I can't find anything quite like this on the Wiki or in any recent threads.
Should I try an alternative ROM? Stupid question, but is a Jasjar ROM OK on an O2 exec?
Hi - just thought I'd save people any wasted effort. This problem is now sorted.
It seems the O2 web site had linked to an out of date ROM which I downloaded and installed in blissful ignorance. Went back to the web site and found the link is now updated and gives the correct ROM version. This loaded and started up with no problems.
In case anyone reads this - although I didn't get any direct responses from the community I would still like to say a big thanks cos the Wiki and the responses to other threads are a real help. You guys have put a lot of effort into this and created a resource which is invaluable.
Top bananas!
lol...well i guess me and u were in the same boat my dude...i def did exactly da same thing u did..jus a new user getting the update and fu**ed my ish up...thanx 4 posting this tho it was some help*goes to download new update*
I cant even sync with my pc anymore i dont know wat to do
I'm no expert - as the screw up above amply demonstrates - but the failure to sync was one of the rage inducing steps I went thru too. Sometimes the PC would recognise the xda but other times it wouldn't. In my case, it was sorted by reading in another part of the forum how to get into bootloader mode by pressing the light and on/off button at the same time as using the stylus to press the soft reset. This should take you into boot loader - an apparently dead screen but if you look closely you should see 'Serial' at the top and 'v0.xx' at the bottom.
If you reconnect by USB cable to your PC the 'Serial' should change to 'USB' and in my case I was able to run the software on my PC to update the ROM.
Sorry if I'm stating the obvious but hope this works for you. Otherwise check out the Wiki section (wiki.xda-developers.com) which has lots of good tips.
i fixed it i had jus installed a new rom
I have a Hermes (Orange SPV 3100 but unlocked). The phone has stopped working but everything else is fine.
I've tried putting other sim cards into it, cleaned all the sim contacts etc with no success at all. As far as it's concerned, there is no valid connection. Phone and data connections don't work. All the Windows settings and programs run fine, it's just the phone that doesn't so I have a pda without a phone! I wasn't trying to flash a rom - the op system is all as original except for the unlock.
I don't think it's worth enough to pay for a professional repair so any suggestions for tracing and curing the problem and hints as to whether its likely to be a faulty connection, faulty parts or software problem?
Thanks.
I have the exact same phone, and similar problem. The difference is my phone is not completely unusable, it sometimes works for a while and sometimes doesnt.
I have just - 10 mins ago - flashed a new radio rom to see if it helps and so far (10 minutes!), so good. But I will need to leave it for a couple of days to see if it works properly.
Is there an "X" beside the signal icon? Also have you checked the Comm Manager and disable the phone and enable it again?
Ah well I didnt need to leave it for a couple of days, its not working again even with new radio rom.
Ive tried new o/s, new bootloader and new radio but still the same problem, nothing else to try really ?
(btw: Mine usually has an exclaimation mark next to signal strength.)
Carthief When did the problem first start occurring? Did you flash a radio/OS ROM and it started to happen, or did it just happen out of the blue?
Sorry I did not see this post...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562486
I don't know dude. Maybe one of the senior members can help out.
Shawn80 said:
Is there an "X" beside the signal icon? Also have you checked the Comm Manager and disable the phone and enable it again?
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I will check tomorrow. I am using a different phone at the moment and have left the Hermes at the office.
Hi Shawn, yeah that post covers when my phones problem started - I hadnt flashed anything recently when it started messing up.
I've tried tonight;
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems
Problem 5:
METHOD 1
But I didn't flash the patched radio.
Phone is working at the moment... I'll update if it is still working or not tomorrow, if its still working maybe Batxda could try it out as well
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Phone worked all night, and this morning, but froze up this afternoon and needed rebooting. It's currently working ... but probably not for long! My battery is running out very fast as well.
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Is there an "X" beside the signal icon? Also have you checked the Comm Manager and disable the phone and enable it again?
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Hi again. Yes, there is an "x" beside the signal icon (normally meaning that phone is turned off) and also beside the connectivity icon (two horiz arrows and a "x" meaning no active connection). Also, I've just noticed that both of those icons no longer respond to stylus taps. All the other icons do.
I've tried turning the phone on via Setup > Connections > Comms and Setup > Personal > phone. Neither work, in fact, they do not respond at all.
I haven't tried the cure that Carthief tried but then, I've never flashed any roms on this phone either. I am apprehensive about that because I haven't done it before so, if that's the solution, I would need to find a free evening and do lots of reading.
BTW, the unlocking was done ages ago professionally, not by me.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Batxda said:
Hi again. Yes, there is an "x" beside the signal icon (normally meaning that phone is turned off) and also beside the connectivity icon (two horiz arrows and a "x" meaning no active connection). Also, I've just noticed that both of those icons no longer respond to stylus taps. All the other icons do.
I've tried turning the phone on via Setup > Connections > Comms and Setup > Personal > phone. Neither work, in fact, they do not respond at all.
I haven't tried the cure that Carthief tried but then, I've never flashed any roms on this phone either. I am apprehensive about that because I haven't done it before so, if that's the solution, I would need to find a free evening and do lots of reading.
BTW, the unlocking was done ages ago professionally, not by me.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
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Maybe I missed it but I did not see any mention of your doing a Hard Reset. (I assume you have tried soft resets) In general if the problem persists after this it rules out most software issues. I also think it's worth a try because of your comment about the icon being unresponsive.
Mike
Mike
I had done a hard reset but, just to be sure, I've just done it again. After the first it locked up at the password screen so I did a few more. Next, I let the Orange config run through. With the third, I removed the battery before Orange it did its thing. Both the same - no active phone but no lock-up either.
Icons on top bar still not active and x's against them.
When I go to settings > Personal > Comms, the phone icon is highlighted and appears to be "on" (no "x") but the top bar icons still show that it isn't. When the comms phone icon is clicked, the cross appears and the phone is, presumably, turned off and can't be turned on again.
When I go to settings > Personal > Phone, it says that the phone is off, would I like to turn it on. Click yes but it doesn't work.
BTW, I'm using an O2 sim card which works perfectly in a NIKI (touch dual).
I hope this is a software not hardware problem. Is there any point in flashing a new radio or complete windows rom? If so, which one would you recommend (it's a minefield for one of little brain)
Many thanks.
B
I did think you might already have tried a hard reset. In general that tends to point towards hardware, BUT corruption of the ROMs can occur. Unfortunately that is not my area of expertise. Hopefully someone will recommend something here. You could always look on http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/ making sure you have Hardspl installed.
Mike
Hi all, my phone is still not working completely but it does seem to be staying alive for longer periods now.
I have just downloaded the latest (from Oct. 2007) software upgrade from Orange for the Hermes - I think it is windows mobile 5, not sure yet. I cant install it tonight but Im going to try that tommorow.
I downloaded the Orange update but it wouldn't load on my phone. all I got was an error message which said it was the wrong rom for the phone. I don't know whether that's because I've had it unlocked or maybe my rom is newer than the update. anyway, I'm no further forward.
I've just noticed that, in Settings > Device Information, it is blank against the radio version and the Protocol version and that there is no IMEI listed either. I guess that means the radio is corrupted so I will try installing a new one. It is op version 14.123.1.614 and ROM version 1.23.61.4. Which radio is recommended.
What does the missing IMEI number mean or is that also connected with the missing radio?
B
Hi Batxda, I dont know which radio to recommend, mine is Radio version: 1.47.30.10 and ROM version: 3.54.255.3
My phone has now been working for over 24hrs, battery has stayed charged as well... so I haven't installed the Orange rom yet.
I bought a new phone having pretty much given up on this one... and now it seems to be working again!
Nope. Not working. Ran for over 48hrs but locked/froze up today with calls going straight to answerphone, battery drained from 70% to 20% in about two hours as well!
My last attempt is going to be running the phone with no memory card in, and no sim card with phone disabled. Will report back.
Have you had any luck Batxda ?
Radio flashes all lock up - help please
carthief said:
Nope. Not working. ...............
Have you had any luck Batxda ?
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Sorry to hear that. I've had different but similarly unsuccessful times. I hope your experiment goes well.
I flashed with HardSPL (SPL-2.10.Olipro) then tried to flash a Radio.
1st I tried v 1.11.00.00 running from the PC. It froze so I had to unplug it. That messed everything up and I ended up with it stuck on the bootloader screen (Type 2a) so I used mtty and found that command "set 16 0" worked so I could return to WM5.
2nd I tried to flash radio v 1.47.00.10 from the SD card. It started OK, got to about 20% and stopped. That was at 11:15. Its now 13:30, 2.25 hours later and it hasn't moved in that time. I am going to have to stop it but I'm sure it will end up corrupted again.
H E L P anybody, how can I flash a radio to this damned thing?
BTW, it is a Hermes 100.
B
Batxda when I reflashed a new radio I just followed the guide here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=26
It sounds like you've gone through the same procedure as me so you've probably already followed that guide...
I don't know what to suggest, but if it was me, and the radio wouldn't flash, I would (being a bit dim ) try it a few more times until I was exhausted...
I've just rebooted mine to see if I could provoke it to do anything with no sim/memory cards in. It gets to the password entry screen and tells me I've entered the wrong password but I know its the right password !! Does anyone know where/how these phones store the password ?
carthief said:
Batxda when I reflashed a new radio I just followed the guide here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=26
It sounds like you've gone through the same procedure as me so you've probably already followed that guide...
I don't know what to suggest, but if it was me, and the radio wouldn't flash, I would (being a bit dim ) try it a few more times until I was exhausted...
I've just rebooted mine to see if I could provoke it to do anything with no sim/memory cards in. It gets to the password entry screen and tells me I've entered the wrong password but I know its the right password !! Does anyone know where/how these phones store the password ?
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I have a AT&T 8525 Hermes that was having No GSM issues.
I'm not sure if both of you seen the No GSM message when booting the phone (when it was bootable) & if you did, here's what I did to get the phone working again.
I removed the battery & pressed hard against the back stainless steel plate especially around the area near the battery contacts. It worked for mine & the No GSM issue would go away. If it happened again, then I repeat the same procedure & it works again.
My conclusion is that the GSM chip has broken or loose contacts with the motherboard so as long as the contacts is good, that keeps the radio working. BTW, this phone was dropped before & after that, this issue started happening.
Lastly, I'm not sure if your issue is really with the password...that's just a symptom of something else that is wrong with the system...not sure if it's entirely software or perhaps hardware or combination of both.
konker said:
I have a AT&T 8525 Hermes that was having No GSM issues.
I'm not sure if both of you seen the No GSM message when booting the phone (when it was bootable) ...
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No, I haven't seen that message.
Since the last post, I've tried to flash various radio roms, two WM6 roms and what XDA says is the original WM5 Orange SVP M3100 rom for my phone (v slightly different version number though). All of them hang at around 11% or give an error message. I've ended up with a Dopod start screen (from one of the WM6 attempts) and a funny mixture of colours but I can still start Windows so I've got a pda with no phone access.
Taking your message on board, I'm starting to think that there is a hardware fault preventing the radio from being recognised. That is unless there is something fundamental that, being a n00b at this, I'm not doing. I've put Hard SPL on the phone, flashed roms and failed, reset it with MTTY (set 16 0) and used a variety of radio and main roms. Is there anything else I should have done?
I'm about to give up and see what it's value is and then see if I can get a hardware repair (if it's worth it). Otherwise, I've heard that some fetes have a throw the mobile competition ......... !!!!!!
B
Hi Guys
Please could any on help me i have a orange spv m5000 i think i flashed wrong rom killed phone, but have managed to hard reset via, on button plus the two minus buttons and the soft reset hole, but when i press 0 to restore factory defaults i then see the text ( serial and v2.01 ) but phone will not start up, when i plug in usb cable the only thing that shows up in windows is (pocketpc smartphone) in the safely remove hardware on taskbar then i tryed uni_exitbootloader but get error (cannot open usb port) i have stopped activesync usb detection, but still no joy.
is there a way to get the usb port opened or is this phone bricked, Man i hope not i loved this phone and cant really afford to get another (Real hard times!) Man i hate learning the hard way.
I also read somewhere that the phones batterie memory can get curupted and there is a way to fix it by shorting out the pins if any one has that info that would be great as well.
a million thanks for any help any one could give I mean that folks.
if you think you can help would you be so kind as to send me an email telling me howto, [email protected]
again many thanks for any help
Regards
Daz
PS sorry if this is in wrong forum if it is could you tell me where its suppose to go cheers
Try doing Doc format and/or running MTTY
All information can be found on my signature link
Good luck,
Double post!
Thanks orb3000
ill try them out
and sorry about double post really unsure where it was suppose to go.
Thanks again for answering
PPC
Hi Again
tried mtty, says
com1 port can not open
even though i disconnected active sync and usb cable as recommended but still no joy,
i still have the faint serial and version displayed on screen but it seems as though theres no way of finding a connection to the phone,
i havent tried doc format still looking on how to do that but i remember reading about that and i think i will still have same issue as mtty has, weird that in my task bar i can see ppc smart phone in safely remove hardware and yet no prog can get to it.
got a feeling this is a lost cause, sending it in for repair costs the same as buying a secondhand one so whats the point of repair! crap man this sucks
Orb could you suggest a good working rom for my spvm5000 so i could try a differant rom to see if that might make a differance ill try any thing at the mo,
oh well thanks for trying dude.
regards PPC
I would recommend Tomal 8.2, 8.5 or 8.9
Let´s see if other member can give you more alternatives for your problem.