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Confused: IE wants to use GPRS rather than GSM

Hi,
Very confused about this. When I go into connections it lists work connections and when I click on manage work connections there is one I added: VirginNet which uses CSD. No other exists.
Whenever I access a web page it keeps trying to connect to O2 Internet using GPRS.
Any ideas how I get it to stop? Do I have to hit the registry?
Cheers

R u sure there's only 'my work network' & no entry like 'my isp'.
if not create one for the csd type you want & check the advanced tab as well. 'my isp' is for internet. 'my work' for lan.
regards, M

Here goes..
If you open connections, go to the second tab, and click the "select networks" button. This is where you tell the operating system what network connection to ue for which application. You'll be specifically interested in the internet portion, which is the first section.

I had no My ISP section but it obviously still had the details somewhere. I've had to hard reset and start again.
Thanks for the replies though.
I guess, even with a CSD rather than GPRS, if something on my pocketPC tries to connect it will still cost me.
I seem to remember in Pocket PC 2000 that it couldn't do this on its own, it always needed permission.

borgs said:
I had no My ISP section but it obviously still had the details somewhere. I've had to hard reset and start again.
Thanks for the replies though.
I guess, even with a CSD rather than GPRS, if something on my pocketPC tries to connect it will still cost me.
I seem to remember in Pocket PC 2000 that it couldn't do this on its own, it always needed permission.
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Well, you are going to pay for the phone minutes if you use dial up, or you pay for GPRS useage. Actually, I didn't even realize the Magician had a dial up modem...
In any case, you can establish a connection by going to Connections and adding a connection. Select "Cellular Line" (which is the default, and go from there). I haven't done it with the Magician, but I have used dial up with WM2003.

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Man,as far as I learnt from my master courses, the GSM is a method for calling.For data transferring,it's GPRS........So if you wanna IE transfer data for ya,GPRS is needed.

That's not entirely true, you can configure a csd connection like with a regular modem.Which dials a number & have the data over the phone call.
Works OK PIE won't see the diff.
Cheers, M

I'm using CSD rather than GPRS because I can use my voice allowance of 200 minutes per month for data access. I've just checked my bill and, going via VirginNet dialup, it is using my allowance rather than being charged. It's slow but I can access the internet on the small number of occasions that I need to.
The question is; if something requires internet access on my pocket PC will it just go ahead and dial up now? Those 200 minutes won't last long if it fails to disconnect.
I would prefer it if the device would actually ask before it went ahead to get internet access.

Yes it will dial up & show shortly a message with the cancel/hide buttons. I'm on flatfee gprs from TMO & don't bother, so I can use journal bar, timesync, true imap mail (vgs mail), have automatic virus scan updates etc. etc. I guess your 200min. will be gone soon. In the Netherlands the internet dial-up numbers are seperate and expensive, so keep an eye on it.
Cheers, M

It all depends on the application you use.
IE won't connect on its own without you telling it to go to a web page. Messaging won't connect without you telling it to connect occasionally either.
Well-developed programs like Worldmate and PocketWeather won't either. You have to specifically allow them to connect, but it's program-dependent. If you install some rogue program that doesn't ask you, then yes, you will have problems.
Just remember that if you dial up using CSD, you will be connecting at around cellular speed 14.4Kbps (unless you connect to a HS connection, which I'm not sure the JARJAR even supports).

Hi,
Thanks for all the info.
In the end I've created 2 CSD profiles, one with user id info etc. and one without. When I don't intend to use the internet I set it to the one without. If anything attempts to get internet access it gets stuck at the network log on dialog and doesn't actually dial out - unless I accidentally hit the ok button on the handset. Best I can do I think.
When I want internet access I switch to the proper profile and it dials out normally.
Don't see why Microsoft couldn't provide a "Don't dial out" profile but there you go.
Cheers

I had a question pertaining to GSM/GPRS. Will the Magician/Jam, etc be able to upgrade to EDGE service once it is available in the U.S. at a decent rate? Will companies force us to upgrade our devices? How long will GPRS be available to consumers?

web & walk basic; penalities for using as a modem/ICQ/MSN??

Hi all,
I've just received my Vario II on upgrade yesterday; so far so good...
Just would like to know if anyone's web & walk internet connection has been capped/disconnected as a result of using instant messenger software or using the device as a USB modem?
Many thanks in advanced.

they used to not check. now I think they block the port. So don't count on using MSN at all.
If you want to use MSN 3 do a scheme for £5 a month. Even better, O2 have fabulous new unlimited data tariffs just by adding £10 a month to a voice tariff - this is the best deal at the moment

colonel said:
If you want to use MSN 3 do a scheme for £5 a month. Even better, O2 have fabulous new unlimited data tariffs just by adding £10 a month to a voice tariff - this is the best deal at the moment
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Have you got info on this O2 £10/unlimited data tariff? Couldn't find anything on their site...

MSN works for me on W&W basic, on it now

I've been using msn on the device and using the device as a modem. All works fine but I just wanted to know how long until T-mobile find out!

I dunno if you realise that using the phone as a modem - it is classed as a datacall and not web'n'walk - so you will be charged accordingly.
I found out this the hard way! I moved house recently so have been using VarioII/pc for internet - good speeds - got hammered on the bill though!
Cheers
Paul

pphillips001 said:
I dunno if you realise that using the phone as a modem - it is classed as a datacall and not web'n'walk - so you will be charged accordingly.
I found out this the hard way! I moved house recently so have been using VarioII/pc for internet - good speeds - got hammered on the bill though!
Cheers
Paul
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It shouldn't matter whether you are using the device directly or connecting to a laptop/pc as a USB modem- should never be charged for it; it's still using the same connection.
I used it yesterday for about 2 hours connected to my laptop and happened to check my bill online this morning and no charges have been applied.

pphillips001 said:
I dunno if you realise that using the phone as a modem - it is classed as a datacall and not web'n'walk - so you will be charged accordingly.
I found out this the hard way! I moved house recently so have been using VarioII/pc for internet - good speeds - got hammered on the bill though!
Cheers
Paul
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Hey,
without trying to sound patronising, I believe the reason you got charged for a data call is because you didn't set the modem up correctly. In order to access the proper GPRS/UMTS connection you need to specify the number as *99# which tells the phone to route the connection through its internal modem. Any other method would cause the phone to make an actual phone call (which can still accept data, this is how I used to connect my first PDA to the wonders of the internet). As long as you route through *99# there should not be any way for T-Mobile to tell that you are going through the computer.
Regards,
Phil
PS: Just noticed you said you were getting good speeds, how exactly did you set that connection up?

yep I agree with herman3101...
as for speeds, I'm currently getting about 220kbps- thats 3g is it not? it is a perferctly acceptable speed for general internet browsing- although high speed access would be good too!

220 kbps is UMTS ... which can be 3G if you want to call it that ..
HSDPA which will be in the range of 800-1000 Kbps

I am in the same boat, i really wanna use my MDA Vario 2 as a modem over the cable connection to my computer, i was reading a guide on it, the problem i have is that when i go to control panel on the computer, modem and phone options and to the modem lis i have an unknown connection but i cant click on the properties of it. Is this a problem if i have activesync on there too?

@cakonopka:
As long as you disable all ActiveSync connections from the system tray icon you should be ok.
Click on the 'wireless modem' option on the PDA; make sure the APN settings are correct for your provider and country.
Click on the menu button and click 'Start'; now connect the PDA to the PC (making sure AS is off and your applications/modem driver cd is in the drive). The PC should auto recognise the device and search driver from the cd. That should be it- check in modem/phone connections and it should read something like HTC USB modem.
Setup a new connection with the number *99# with no username or password.
You should be ready to go!

sh500 said:
@cakonopka:
As long as you disable all ActiveSync connections from the system tray icon you should be ok.
Click on the 'wireless modem' option on the PDA; make sure the APN settings are correct for your provider and country.
Click on the menu button and click 'Start'; now connect the PDA to the PC (making sure AS is off and your applications/modem driver cd is in the drive). The PC should auto recognise the device and search driver from the cd. That should be it- check in modem/phone connections and it should read something like HTC USB modem.
Setup a new connection with the number *99# with no username or password.
You should be ready to go!
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this is exactly what i did, i get the error as outlined in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284050
any suggestions?

bluetooth/internet or modem

A am sure this has been asked before, but i couldn't find a clear answer.
1) What are the steps I have to take to connect my bluetooth enabled laptop to my 8125 so that I can surf the internet on the laptop? I have an unlimited data plan for my 8125.
2) What are the steps I have to take to use my 8125 as a wireless modem with a bluetooth connection to the laptop?
I have found different answers (set up the active sync and it should work, instructions how to use the laptop as a gateway for the 8125), but the answer to my questions above has so far eluded me.
Can you help? Thanks.

Once you find out....let me know....Ive been wanting to do the same thing.

its quite simple, turn on bluetooth on both devices and do a search for devices on your laptop, pair the two and one of the services from your phone should be dial up networking. select that, and it should i belive automatically set up a dial up connection, if not just create one with your blkuetooth device as the modem, and the phone number to dial wil be *99# that should be it, i figure you most prolly dont need a username/ password, and you would know if you had one or not.

Goldy said:
its quite simple, turn on bluetooth on both devices and do a search for devices on your laptop, pair the two and one of the services from your phone should be dial up networking. select that, and it should i belive automatically set up a dial up connection, if not just create one with your blkuetooth device as the modem, and the phone number to dial wil be *99# that should be it, i figure you most prolly dont need a username/ password, and you would know if you had one or not.
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Sounds simple....I think the info I was looking for was: Do I need a dial up account and/or a data plan on my cell phone?
I think they did away with the 5.99 T-zones.
So either its pay for a slow dial up account....or get raped by Tmobile for their internet plan.

Networking over USB?

Hi!
Is it possible to connect a WM6 PDA via a PC to the internet (over the USB-cable)?
I need to debug an application, and therefore run tcpdump somewhere do examine the packets. If I could route networking over my PC this would be possible.
Thanks!

unless you turn it off then when the pda is connected to activesync it have access to the same network as the pc running activesync

Rudegar said:
unless you turn it off then when the pda is connected to activesync it have access to the same network as the pc running activesync
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if thats the case then,why have i just received a bill of £22 for mobile data usage,when my kaiser is connected to my pc via usb???am i doing something wrong??if so,what? i'm a novice when it comes to these matters!!lol

maybe you did it the other way... and your pc used your pda as a modem...
on my touch dual...
if you are using the Internet Sharing app, the comp/laptop uses the gprs/3g modem on your pda.
any other time... i think the pda uses the computer's connection by default.
There is a setting somewhere in "Settings" I think, cant remember the exact wording. Sorry... dont have me phone on me.

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maybe you did it the other way... and your pc used your pda as a modem...
on my touch dual...
if you are using the Internet Sharing app, the comp/laptop uses the gprs/3g modem on your pda.
any other time... i think the pda uses the computer's connection by default.
There is a setting somewhere in "Settings" I think, cant remember the exact wording. Sorry... dont have me phone on me.
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I welcome your comments,thanks 4 getting in touch.I spoke to 3 different tmobile customer service reps and only after the 3rd person was I any nearer in finding out why i'm being charged for mobile data.i had 1 tmobile CSR try and tell me that tmobile own the wireless network and also that tmobile make the handsets not htc,how ill informed was she???one also siad that if i didnt refresh the page on my pc,then gprs would kick in and that was the reason iwas being charged,they also said i should contact my broadband provider,when i challenged them that i tmobile should not be charging me for mobile data,for using my own broadband,only then did i get passed onto technical advisors.They suggested that i totally erase all gprs settings,of which i had already done the previous night,i then asked them to see if any charges were on my account for yesterday,surprise surprise i'd been charged £1.27,i told them that i had erased all gprs settings,so why were charges still showing up on my account??i was met with your wireless signal is not powerful enough,of which i said hogwash because my next door neighbour can connect from her house,so i cant see as to how my signal is too weak for me to connect my kaiser or wizard to.They have rescinded all charges,but i cant understand for the life of me,if i aint got gprs settings,how can i still be charged by tmobile for using my own home network???might need to call ghostbusters!!LOL

Use PC INTERNET
On The Option Go To Connection And Choose Where It Says Your Computer Is Connected To Choose Internet And If Lan'd Choose Work Network

settings->connections->connections->advanced->select network
choose my work network in the dropdownbox

Rudegar said:
settings->connections->connections->advanced->select network
choose my work network in the dropdownbox
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i've tried what you have suggested,but still not working,i added to my previous post,let me know what you think pls,as it is really mysterious

Has anyone done this on there HTC HD

Good evening Gents,
Thanks for taking the time to read this but I am pulling my hair out here.
I want to use my HTC HD to dial a anlog modem (56k modem we all used to use for the internet)
Now in it not to connect to an ISP, it is for a management system. THe systems use a standard 56k type modem on a normal CSD connection (land line, PSTN).
I have so far setup the modem over bluetooth and I can query it and get a reply, all the usauly AT items in the list. When I try to send a dial out to the phone ie 0122234485858 the bluetooth connects and the phone will not dial the number.
everything else works find, internet connect sharing etc, but not standard old dial up.
Has anyone got this to work on WM6?
THanks for any replies.
Over and out
Cheers