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Hi I have my universal on contract with t-mobile i have the flext 25 which gives me £60 worth of calls included on an 18 month contract but only to the uk;
I was *****ing some with an irish friend of mine how he got cheap calls to the uk but I had to pay so i had a look on google and found this
http://www.yourcallworld.com/more.aspx
depending on your network you can make international calls on your call allowance. orange,O2, T-mobile and Virgin are best supported. Even on a pay as you go sim you can get some good prices at times 5p per min on pay as you go 02 for example at weekends.
of course skype is pretty competitive compared to this and technically your not going to beat about 1p a minute to international landlines.
but what really makes this good is the way you can use your call allowance
my contract gives me 20p a Min calls for 8p a Min effectively.
before international calls would be an expensive extra on my mobile (or done at home on skype)
one problem thou a lot of mobile numbers are only accessable through the access number monday to friday.
If you can live with that then the access number should be a welcome addition to your phone book
but can anyone do any better
Hey Telus users,
I'm sure you all know about the recent addition of the 15 cent incoming SMS charge. I'd like to know if anyone has called Customer service to cancel?
Does this change give us the option to bail on our contract early (for free) because of a change in terms?
I wish they would open up Canada to use American providers.
Any thoughts?
Tough luck, they've already publicly stated that they will not be freeing anyone.
That said, they've been doing this for months already on many accounts. Best bet is to complain to customer service... they'll probably offer a free unlimited text message add-on.
If enough people complain... I think you'll see Bell/Telus back off and forget the whole stupid idea.
guardianfox said:
Tough luck, they've already publicly stated that they will not be freeing anyone.
That said, they've been doing this for months already on many accounts. Best bet is to complain to customer service... they'll probably offer a free unlimited text message add-on.
If enough people complain... I think you'll see Bell/Telus back off and forget the whole stupid idea.
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unless you live close enough to the border, than you could get sprint
I do actually! I am in Vancouver, B.C most of my time
Wouldn't I need an American address or an American credit card?
hm.
Does anyone have any good success stories calling telus and whining about your plan? My work buddy tells me he yelled because of the misleading lack of wifi in the Touch and got free data and a decent voice package for 30 bucks a month.
Who knows if that is true or not...
guardianfox said:
If enough people complain... I think you'll see Bell/Telus back off and forget the whole stupid idea.
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Bell has clearly stated (I can't speak for Telus - but I believe it is the same deal), that if you sub to ANY plan that includes text messaging, you will not be charged for these incoming messages. This charge was put in place for those that do not have any text messaging as part of their plan.
TheIgster said:
Bell has clearly stated (I can't speak for Telus - but I believe it is the same deal), that if you sub to ANY plan that includes text messaging, you will not be charged for these incoming messages. This charge was put in place for those that do not have any text messaging as part of their plan.
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Yes, absolutely they will. However, for those who did not wish to incur the extra cost of a text messaging add-on or plan... there's nothing to do but complain.
Think about it this way. Let's say some fool friend of yours gets the bright idea to text you the first 10 books of the bible... not only is your phone going to sound like a busy highway, but it's also going to cost you some extra $$$. To prevent this, you have two choices: Turn off text messaging features, or subscribe to a package including text messages. Are you supposed to take responsibility for any unsolicited messages?
I've already experienced this situation. A short while ago, an idiot I know decided it would be funny to send my phone number to some crank-calling service online. I never did get the call, but I started getting spam text messages, at a rate of about 10 an hour. Telus started charging me $0.15ea from the very first one. After 2 weeks, I got the bill. Do the math.
Paying for incoming messages is not like paying for incoming phone calls. With a call you have a choice. You can choose not to answer, or hang up when you feel the call is too long. Caller ID is a low-cost feature on many plans that will help with this. With a text message, you do not have any option other than turning the feature off entirely. There's no way to weed out or prevent unwanted messages.
I've gotten over $100 worth of extras from them because I've complained about it... including the easiest one: free text messages added to my plan.
brynhewko said:
I do actually! I am in Vancouver, B.C most of my time
Wouldn't I need an American address or an American credit card?
hm.
Does anyone have any good success stories calling telus and whining about your plan? My work buddy tells me he yelled because of the misleading lack of wifi in the Touch and got free data and a decent voice package for 30 bucks a month.
Who knows if that is true or not...
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I've been paying for data ($15) and a $30 package. I've complained about the flaws with the Touch, misinformation from Telus service/sales/tech, this SMS issue, and more... IF you are willing to spend the time on the phone (mostly on hold), and make repeat calls, they'll slowly give more and more features. It all has to do with your complaining skills and the only way to improve them is to use them.
I've gotten:
-Free voicemail (for length of contract)
-1/2 price billing for six months (yet to be put in effect )
-The Touch Diamond as soon as it is available. No charge, no extended contract.
-Free TXT addon (for length of contract)
-Extra 50 daytime minutes twice, for 100. (for length of contract)
-100 Canadian Long Distance Minutes (for length of contract)
-Well over $100 in credits for incoming txt's, incorrect charges, etc.
I've only been a client for 8 months.
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Yes, absolutely they will. However, for those who did not wish to incur the extra cost of a text messaging add-on or plan... there's nothing to do but complain.
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Oh, I agree. I certainly don't condone what they are doing, but for the most part, it won't effect most consumers.
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I've gotten over $100 worth of extras from them because I've complained about it... including the easiest one: free text messages added to my plan.
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Yep, I have called Bell and complained about numerous things over the few years I've been with them. Let's put it this way, I get:
Call waiting, voice mail, unlimited Internet (including ALL data transfer), 3 way calling, calls between the 2 phones completely free anytime, unlimited evenings and weekends starting at 6, 250 text messages and 250 daytime minutes.
All this on TWO phones for $64.40 a month.
Trust me, I complained a bit. I don't know of anywhere else where you would get that kind of deal for two phones.
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I do actually! I am in Vancouver, B.C most of my time
Wouldn't I need an American address or an American credit card?
hm.
Does anyone have any good success stories calling telus and whining about your plan? My work buddy tells me he yelled because of the misleading lack of wifi in the Touch and got free data and a decent voice package for 30 bucks a month.
Who knows if that is true or not...
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i dont think so....call sprint and find out, as long as they can send you the bill then i don't think they care lol
wait nvm, that would be why they can't have you but you could why it wouldn't hurt you since you live in Canada they can't do anything
Incoming BS at $$$$
They just nickel and dime us. Then the rate goes up.
The entire system is digital.
What the heck then charge for call display?
Voice mail I can see, it takes up data space.
Text and voice can both be compressed. These monkeys are just ripping us off.
I am with bell and they screwed me hardcore but after a week of calling i got some some compensation for it. First i bought the htc 5800 phone as i loved the whole sliding qwerty keyboard. I asked for unlimited internet, unlimited text, msn, and then a basic voice plan as i barely talk on my phone. They told me they would have to add a minium of $25 for a data plan onto my $20 voice plan for the extra features that i asked for and i was fine with that as they told i would get what i requested. Everything was all dandy until i got my first bill $698.89. Apparently the 5800 doesnt support unlimited internet so i got nailed with data charges. No one told me this.
After calling bell for a week i was able to get a free htc touch, unlimited data, msn, text messaging, voicemail, free calling after 6pm and weekends, and free incoming calls for $60 a month. which is alot better than the close to $100 it would have costed me if i didnt complain that they screwed me over. It just makes u wonder how much money they get when they screw people over and they dont complain about it.
compared to touch pro it has:
+bigger screen
+compass
-hvga
-no radio
its even made made by the same people with simlar quality
and yet its $399 while the touck pro is more than $1K unlocked. is google subsidising this ferther
anybody knows how much the winmo licence costing htc
it wouldnt suprise me if htc are loosing profit in the short term.
the whole point of the g1 is for it to be cheap and available to anyone (open source). i think they're probably biting the bullet and hoping it will pick up.
G1 specs
the G1 is supposed to have a compass in it according to the HTC website, and I'm not sure... but I bet there's radio in it too. It also has the HVGA ur talkin about.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html
there's the page
compass is on the very bottom under the special features.
HTC Touch HD
OMG this thing has a 5.0 megapixel camera!
Well.... I guess I better pitch my 5.0 megapixel kodak digi camera quick lol
Who said it's unlocked? It's only being sold through T-Mobile, locked to their network, and the only way you can get it unlocked is by being a T-Mobile customer for 90 days.
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OMG this thing has a 5.0 megapixel camera!
Well.... I guess I better pitch my 5.0 megapixel kodak digi camera quick lol
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It's 3.2 not 5 although 5 would have totally rocked. I'm using a Sony Ericsson K790a phone at the moment I love the camera on this thing but it basically has a cybershot camera built into it. I wish the G1 had a flash built in.
Black93300ZX said:
Who said it's unlocked? It's only being sold through T-Mobile, locked to their network, and the only way you can get it unlocked is by being a T-Mobile customer for 90 days.[/QUOT
T-Mo isn't discouraging unlocking the phone and they said there will be an unlocked version available without contract for $399.
They also state that the phone is best used with their services. From what I have read at Engadget, I isn't compatible with AT&T 3G.
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pseudoproto said:
T-Mo isn't discouraging unlocking the phone and they said there will be an unlocked version available without contract for $399.
They also state that the phone is best used with their services. From what I have read at Engadget, I isn't compatible with AT&T 3G.
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I think you mean locked but without contract = $399. Locked and with a contract = $179. But T-mobile is good about allowing you to unlock it after 90 days (of good standing)
Also, as stated the phone is only using UMTS 1700/2100 for T-mobile's AWS 3G network. Unless different specs appear later, it certainly cannot be used on AT&T's 850/1900 3G network, and may not even work on any other global 2100 3G network. But it's quad-band EDGE so you can still get EDGE speeds.
fyi
windows mobile cost money
android is free
(+bigger screen)
(-hvga)
bigger screen maybe, but lower resolution
touch pro 640 x 480
g1 480 x 320
kaiser 240 x 320
i put the kaiser in just for ref.
and tmobile gets a discount for a mass order
they also lock the phone
(this is a hardware lock, not in the software
they might be more relaxed on unlocking the phone due to android (att will unlock there phone even if you are not on there network)(tmoblie will unlock after 90 days per line)
the touch pro doesn't have network yet
and it is unlocked
if a big carrier (with a huge market) gets the touch pro the price will drop
a new HTC TyTn II is still $600
and i am talking about the TyTn II not the Tilt
there is your cost difference
btw the spec look like it will work on at&t
http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html
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I think you mean locked but without contract = $399. Locked and with a contract = $179. But T-mobile is good about allowing you to unlock it after 90 days (of good standing)
Also, as stated the phone is only using UMTS 1700/2100 for T-mobile's AWS 3G network. Unless different specs appear later, it certainly cannot be used on AT&T's 850/1900 3G network, and may not even work on any other global 2100 3G network. But it's quad-band EDGE so you can still get EDGE speeds.
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Yeah that's what I'm saying, you can get it for $399 without a contract, but it is NOT unlocked. You'll be able to buy a Fuze from AT&T without a contract, but you still need to get it unlocked.
so anybody knows how much does a fully unlocked phone that i can use anywhare will end up costing
FYI
I preordered my phone last week and it said on the listing:
Retail $399
On-Line Upgrade Discount $100
Total Upgrade Price $299
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Plus in order to order this phone you must add to your rate plan a T-Mobile G1 rate plan. It's either Plan (A) $39.99 unlimited G1 internet and texting or Plan (B) Limited Internet and 400 text for $25.99 extra on top of your normal rate. It states the pre-existing rate plans will Alter to the change for the G1 service if the phone is purchased. I tried to add the phone without adding the G1 service and the website would not let me continue without (1) adding plan (A), plan (B) or (2) remove the phone from upgrade.
After ordering the phone T-Mobile's website stated that the phone would be delivered with free shipping on or by October 22nd 2008. BTW I ordered the Black with the $25.99 plan.
This is what I ordered in the USA other countries might be different.
Other countries don't have the G1 yet. UK is the next launch country (iirc) and won't get it until the end of this year or early next year.
I'm sure there will be individuals who are planning to buy the G1 from Tmo US to resell online (on ebay); whether or not they're fully unlocked will depend on the fine print. I would expect them to be around $500. But again the launch version of the G1 is 1700/2100mhz 3G, so you can't just use it "anywhere"; and by the time these launch units start becoming available unlocked, there will be other versions/models to choose from anyway.
danielbui23 said:
I preordered my phone last week and it said on the listing:
Retail $399
On-Line Upgrade Discount $100
Total Upgrade Price $299
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Plus in order to order this phone you must add to your rate plan a T-Mobile G1 rate plan. It's either Plan (A) $39.99 unlimited G1 internet and texting or Plan (B) Limited Internet and 400 text for $25.99 extra on top of your normal rate. It states the pre-existing rate plans will Alter to the change for the G1 service if the phone is purchased. I tried to add the phone without adding the G1 service and the website would not let me continue without (1) adding plan (A), plan (B) or (2) remove the phone from upgrade.
After ordering the phone T-Mobile's website stated that the phone would be delivered with free shipping on or by October 22nd 2008. BTW I ordered the Black with the $25.99 plan.
This is what I ordered in the USA other countries might be different.
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Sorry, I am editing my statement about G1 plan (B): Limited Internet and 400 text messages.
PLAN (B) is UNLIMITED INTERNET and 400 text messages allowed in or out going.
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Sorry, I am editing my statement about G1 plan (B): Limited Internet and 400 text messages.
PLAN (B) is UNLIMITED INTERNET and 400 text messages allowed in or out going.
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Hmm, I don't think I could stick to 400 texts a month... Haha oh damn, I just looked at my usage for AT&T for this month (only 2 weeks into the billing period)...
Anytime minutes: Used 113/1400
Night/Weekend: Used 1,794 of unlimited
Mobile To Mobile: Used 1,152 of unlimited
Messaging: Used 519 of unlimited
And, since I canceled my data plan, a whopping .06MB of data, woot. I know I use my phone a ton, but I can't really see anyone that texts semi-frequently using under 400... A single conversation via text can take 20 text messages, and 20 days having 1 full conversation is your 400 right there.
Well at $25 and $35, T-mobile's definitely going after the iPhone plans, which don't even include any texts in the base $30 rate, and goes up to $50 for unlimited internet/sms.
AT&T might have wider 3G coverage, but if it continues to underperform, Tmo could take the cake.
Anyway, online-presence apps (like IM) should eventually start phasing out text messaging as more and more people get internet-enabled phones; so 400 messages could conceivably cover all the messaging "when-needed", while users start adopting more interactive modes of chat -- especially once developers integrate them into popular social networking services, like Facebook et al.
And keep in mind that the IM software dings you for each message sent and received as well, with exception of Google Talk -- it's the only one of the bunch that uses the internet connection for messaging; all the rest use texting.
Who uses Google Talk? I didn't even know it existed
Black93300ZX said:
Hmm, I don't think I could stick to 400 texts a month... Haha oh damn, I just looked at my usage for AT&T for this month (only 2 weeks into the billing period)...
Anytime minutes: Used 113/1400
Night/Weekend: Used 1,794 of unlimited
Mobile To Mobile: Used 1,152 of unlimited
Messaging: Used 519 of unlimited
And, since I canceled my data plan, a whopping .06MB of data, woot. I know I use my phone a ton, but I can't really see anyone that texts semi-frequently using under 400... A single conversation via text can take 20 text messages, and 20 days having 1 full conversation is your 400 right there.
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If you use Google Talk, you're not touching your text message allowance, but any of the others on the G1 count each IM sent and received just the same as a text message. My primary IM service is MSN, and I know there's a mobile web client available -- not as pretty, but a lot cheaper to use...
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...Anyway, online-presence apps (like IM) should eventually start phasing out text messaging as more and more people get internet-enabled phones; so 400 messages could conceivably cover all the messaging "when-needed", while users start adopting more interactive modes of chat -- especially once developers integrate them into popular social networking services, like Facebook et al.
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And keep in mind that the IM software dings you for each message sent and received as well, with exception of Google Talk -- it's the only one of the bunch that uses the internet connection for messaging; all the rest use texting.
Who uses Google Talk? I didn't even know it existed
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Yeah Phone based IM services that are preloaded on phones are going to cost just as much as Texting and run along the samelines as they run as an MMS or SMS ie. yahoo messanger, AOL messanger ect....
I use GoogleTalk and It's pretty cool. If 2 people have a Gmail.com account it will allow the 2 to talk in chat form. No Software to load its all done through a popup or popout window. Nothing fancy just realtime conversations. There is a green bubble that pops up next to the name when they are logged on to Gmail so you know if they are by the computer. It turns orange if Google talk or Gmail has been at idle for too long and turns Grey if they are signed off. Also the chats are recorded in a chat folder so if you need to reference information from a previous Chat/ Conversation you can easily access it through your designated folder.
I installed it, and it's OK -- bare bones, the 'cheap motel room' (CNET reviewer remark) of chat products. My favorite feature is how you can set 'off the record' per contact in your list. Once set, chats are >not< stored for future searching (in your Gmail or theirs), and it isn't something your 'buddy' can change.
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...also the chats are recorded in a chat folder so if you need to reference information from a previous Chat/ Conversation you can easily access it through your designated folder...
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It seems ridiculous to sell a device that does all these things online, when the network won't even allow it. I'm talking about the 500mb fair usage policy (FUP) Vodafone place on their 'unlimited' mobile internet, when T-Mobile seems to allow you a 3GB limit.
But stop the press! I just got off the phone with Vodafone today and was told that they are in talks to INCREASE their FUP limit by Christmas! (in time for their take on the beloved iPhone). Does any one have any more information on this!? Because the FUP is the ONLY thing stopping me from getting the HD2 out from Vodafone now and not wait for T-Mobile!
Also, does anyone have any experience with Vodafone/T-Mobile voice and data coverage in the UK? That would be a big factor too in deciding which network provider to sign with.
I use TMobile in the Midlands and have no problem with voice and data reception, still waiting for my HD2 to arrive so cant comment if the reception is any better or worse than my Kaiser
serk1284 said:
It seems ridiculous to sell a device that does all these things online, when the network won't even allow it. I'm talking about the 500mb fair usage policy (FUP) Vodafone place on their 'unlimited' mobile internet, when T-Mobile seems to allow you a 3GB limit.
But stop the press! I just got off the phone with Vodafone today and was told that they are in talks to INCREASE their FUP limit by Christmas! (in time for their take on the beloved iPhone). Does any one have any more information on this!? Because the FUP is the ONLY thing stopping me from getting the HD2 out from Vodafone now and not wait for T-Mobile!
Also, does anyone have any experience with Vodafone/T-Mobile voice and data coverage in the UK? That would be a big factor too in deciding which network provider to sign with.
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The 500Mb FUP is the reason I left Orange when I had an Omnia HD. Stupid limit.
T-Mobile are excellent - even though they didnt work out for me - heres why:
I went in to get a HTC Hero - did the Street Check online - had excellent coverage and good 3G coverage. Got a great contract and the staff were very good. Got home - which is in a little town called leek (just outside Stoke) and had no 3g coverage at all. Left it a few days just in case it sprung to life then rang customer services. The very nice lady told me they have two versions of the coverage checker - one for customers and one for their Techies - the Techie one showed zero 3G coverage even though the online street check showed good coverage.
The T-mobile guys were great and I returned the phone no fuss - but be wary of the street checker - ring them to double check. There network seemed excellent and they will soon be merged with Orange who have a significant 3G network. If I had coverage I would defo go with T-mobile...
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I'm talking about the 500mb fair usage policy (FUP) Vodafone place on their 'unlimited' mobile internet, when T-Mobile seems to allow you a 3GB limit.
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T-Mobile nearly always has a one gigabyte limit. They make an exception for one or two Android-based phones, such as the Hero, which have a lot of constantly updating widgets - for those phones only, if you buy the phone from T-Mobile, you will get a 3GB limit. As far as I'm aware the limit on an HD2 will be 1GB - but it might be worth checking this with T-Mobile customer services.
T-Mobile also block some ports on their standard internet service so you can't use MSN Messenger on it, or access certain websites at all (e.g. iPlayer).
I just went with Vodafone as the T-Mobile signal is poor where I live. Almost went with O2 as there have the same Fair Usage Policy as T-Mobile but the Vodafone have a pay as you go option which is a max of 50p per day with a limit of 25 Meg. As I would not use my Phone for internet all that much it is the best option for me. As I don’t need to pay an extra £7.50 a month but can us it when ever I want and not pay through the noise for it.
For myself, the benefits of Vodafone, outweigh the downside of having only 500MB of data. I've never gone over my data for the month, and find it quite hard usually, to go over 15MB a day (roughly what 500MB is over the month). I use SPB Wireless Monitor to keep track of it.
It is nice to hear that Vodafone might be increasing this limit tho.
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T-Mobile nearly always has a one gigabyte limit. They make an exception for one or two Android-based phones, such as the Hero, which have a lot of constantly updating widgets - for those phones only, if you buy the phone from T-Mobile, you will get a 3GB limit. As far as I'm aware the limit on an HD2 will be 1GB - but it might be worth checking this with T-Mobile customer services.
T-Mobile also block some ports on their standard internet service so you can't use MSN Messenger on it, or access certain websites at all (e.g. iPlayer).
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lol. T-Mobile have 3 versions of internet for mobiles. Basic Web and Walk with 1Gb fair use policy and blocked ports. Web & Walk plus with 3Gb fair use and open for MSN etc and Laptop Tethering, and Web & Walk Max which has a 10Gb fair use policy and is open for everything including Skype and other VOIP calling. The difference in price between basic and Plus is about £3 -£5. All of these packages are available to all phones.
Shasarak said:
T-Mobile nearly always has a one gigabyte limit. They make an exception for one or two Android-based phones, such as the Hero, which have a lot of constantly updating widgets - for those phones only, if you buy the phone from T-Mobile, you will get a 3GB limit. As far as I'm aware the limit on an HD2 will be 1GB - but it might be worth checking this with T-Mobile customer services.
T-Mobile also block some ports on their standard internet service so you can't use MSN Messenger on it, or access certain websites at all (e.g. iPlayer).
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I have standard TMobile web and walk and can use MSN Messenger with no problems
Gajet said:
lol. T-Mobile have 3 versions of internet for mobiles. Basic Web and Walk with 1Gb fair use policy and blocked ports. Web & Walk plus with 3Gb fair use and open for MSN etc and Laptop Tethering, and Web & Walk Max which has a 10Gb fair use policy and is open for everything including Skype and other VOIP calling. The difference in price between basic and Plus is about £3 -£5. All of these packages are available to all phones.
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All of these may be available, but the point is that you have to pay extra for them. By contrast, other providers don't block ports in their standard Internet packages.
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All of these may be available, but the point is that you have to pay extra for them. By contrast, other providers don't block ports in their standard Internet packages.
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Depends how you view it. I would argue that their standard is web & walk plus, that allows you to tether, which O2 for instance would charge you an extra £15 on top of your data bundle to do. However T-mobile also offer a budget basic package for people who just want the football results on saturdays.
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Depends how you view it. I would argue that their standard is web & walk plus, that allows you to tether, which O2 for instance would charge you an extra £15 on top of your data bundle to do. However T-mobile also offer a budget basic package for people who just want the football results on saturdays.
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My point is that if you pay the advertised price for a T-Mobile phone you will not get Web'n'Walk Plus (unless it's a G1 or a G2, which are special cases). You get the Plus version if you pay £5 more per month than the advertised price. If the purpose that you want to use the connection for requires one of the ports that is blocked on the standard service, you need to be aware of this.
The discussion started because someone suggested that a 3GB limit is standard on T-Mobile, and it isn't - it's only standard if you buy a G1 or a G2. Otherwise it costs extra. You could reasonably argue that T-Mobile's upgraded package is better than other carriers' upgraded packages, but we need to make sure that people who decide to buy (say) an HD2 from T-Mobile aren't expecting to get the "Plus" package without playing extra for it.
I think there are also heavier restrictions on Web'n'Walk Plus than there are on a standard "Mobile Broadband" package. If you get a 3GB per month package from O2 you can do pretty much what you like with it up to the the 3GB limit. But (under the terms of your contract) you're not allowed to download audio or video over a Web'n'Walk Plus connection, or make Skype calls. (You need to upgrade to the Max version for that).
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I think there are also heavier restrictions on Web'n'Walk Plus than there are on a standard "Mobile Broadband" package. If you get a 3GB per month package from O2 you can do pretty much what you like with it up to the the 3GB limit. But (under the terms of your contract) you're not allowed to download audio or video over a Web'n'Walk Plus connection, or make Skype calls. (You need to upgrade to the Max version for that).
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With O2 you can't tether to your laptop
T-Mobile said:
How does Mobile Broadband Plus work?
As well as basic browsing and emailing, you'll be able to take full advantage of what the web has to offer, which means you can:
Send instant messages - chat with your friends in real-time
Stream video - watch clips on YouTube
Update your blog - write when inspiration strikes
Download - save and view music, image and movie files
How does Mobile Broadband Max work?
It's exactly the same as web'n'walk Plus except you can use voice over the internet (VoIP) software, such as Skype and Jajah.com, which allows you to make phone calls and instant message with people all over the world.
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Also with T-mobile you build your own package, so not sure what is advertised The final cost of the total bill determines the handset price. Which is why I've always had W&W Plus and never paid more than a standard £35 pm contract.
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Then allow me to enlighten you. If you go, for example here:
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n447/p27241.aspx#tabsAnchor
you will see an HD2 for sale on contract with T-Mobile. It costs £35 a month, 18-month contract, phone is free, it gives you 700 minutes, "unlimited texts", and "unlimited mobile web". Do you imagine that this deal will give you Web'n'Walk Plus? Obviously, it won't. If you see a T-Mobile deal advertised as "unlimited internet" or "unlimited web", then what that means is that if you pay the amount of money mentioned in the advert, you will get the basic Web'n'Walk package. If you want the "Plus" package then you will have to pay another £5 per month over and above the cost of "unlimited web" to get it.
T-Mobile's own advertising is similar: if you want Web'n'Walk Plus you have to pay £5 a month more than you have to pay for the same phone with the standard Internet package.
Now seriously, this discussion is getting boring, so let's leave it at that.
Never had a problem with T-Mo, even the 2 months I went over 1GB (only by a hundred MB or so). Didn't even hear from them. On the other hand the only horror stories I've read with people getting enormous over-data charges (both local and roaming) have ALL been with Vodafone.
Data was slow at times a year ago but seems ok now. I also get far better reception at home & work on T-Mo with poor/no reception last time I was on Voda, but that's obviously a local issue and will vary, but it was a deciding factor for me..
Likewise despite the T&Cs saying messenger isn't allowed on the baic service, I've always been able to get on no problem.
recently tmobile had a promotional offer which ended in febuary pay and go £10 top up unlimited txt n web.i got the sim because i use it as modem on my shift i can access many sites the only problem i have is msn i dont know if w7 is causing the issue of signing in or tmobile.but when i use the sim on my hd2 msn works fine as long as i untick proxy.i discoverd if the proxy is ticked the auto update of email dosent work or msn so i unticked it.i have used the tmobile sim from streaming to large file downloads they havnt complained although they do have a slower connection then o2.i stopped using o2 they started complaining then they barded me.
i used tmobile sim as modem for few months i think i used more then 3gb
If you go over your plan limit then T-mobile will throttle your usage between 16.00 and 00.00 (midnight) by restricting your access to gprs speed for certain connections (streaming of video is barred etc).
Other than that it's business as usual.
Here are some great links with all the official sprint details, as well as a link w/ some pictures from the live event which just occured...
Sprint EVO Press Release: http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...ol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1426178&highlight=
Sprint EVO fact sheet: http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=127149&p=irol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1426179
IntoMobile Live Coverage:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/12/live-sprints-htc-evo-4g-launch-event.html
Phandroid Summary:
http://phandroid.com/2010/05/12/htc-evo-4g-199-at-launch-available-june-4th/
Basically, $450 unsubsidized, $199 w/ two yr agreement, you will pay $10 extra data fee (b/c they think you will use more data "data rich experience" and it will cost $29 to use the mobile hotspot tethering feature. There will be an "upgrade" feature (from Qik?) that enables mobile to mobile video calls or mobile to desktop...similar to video skype (which verizon has locked down currently). HDMI out cable sold separately and there will be a car dock available as well as a tv docking station available at launch (dock and automatically sends video to your hi-def tv). Sprint is also rumored to be partnering with a video service to enable movie rentals over the air (similar to t-mobiles blockbuster app or Dell which is partnering with amazon videos).
I can't wait for the dev's to root this device!
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Here are some great links with all the official sprint details, as well as a link w/ some pictures from the live event which just occured...
Sprint EVO Press Release: http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...ol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1426178&highlight=
Sprint EVO fact sheet: http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=127149&p=irol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1426179
IntoMobile Live Coverage:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/12/live-sprints-htc-evo-4g-launch-event.html
Phandroid Summary:
http://phandroid.com/2010/05/12/htc-evo-4g-199-at-launch-available-june-4th/
Basically, $450 unsubsidized, $199 w/ two yr agreement, you will pay $10 extra data fee (b/c they think you will use more data "data rich experience" and it will cost $29 to use the mobile hotspot tethering feature. There will be an "upgrade" feature (from Qik?) that enables mobile to mobile video calls or mobile to desktop...similar to video skype (which verizon has locked down currently). HDMI out cable sold separately and there will be a car dock available as well as a tv docking station available at launch (dock and automatically sends video to your hi-def tv). Sprint is also rumored to be partnering with a video service to enable movie rentals over the air (similar to t-mobiles blockbuster app or Dell which is partnering with amazon videos).
I can't wait for the dev's to root this device!
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Agreed, I can't wait to root it and do video calling as well as tethering without having to pay WAY TOO MUCH.
I totally understand trying to make a buck, to run a business, but I'm not about to pay $29 a month, for a feature, that we can probably wait and get for free. I cannot wait to get this phone!
I'm with you on the tethering issue. I was willing to pay for such a good feature if it was 10, maybe 15$ a month.. but asking 30$ is just too much.
when you say tethering is that the same as making the evo a wifi hotspot?
( I am assuming so)
I think that it stinks that they are trying to charge for that....I will wait for a workaround.....anyway...if someone is abusive with data usage, cant sprint just boot the user?
Question: do you think that by upgrading a phone via online method, that you will receive the phone sooner? or is it best to just go to the sprint store or best buy?
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when you say tethering is that the same as making the evo a wifi hotspot?
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( I am assuming so)
Yes, you are correct. Wifi tethering = Hotspot.
qu1nn said:
Question: do you think that by upgrading a phone via online method, that you will receive the phone sooner? or is it best to just go to the sprint store or best buy?
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I was thinking the same thing about ordering the phone online @sprint. But BestBuy takes out the rebate so you don't have to pay for it. So looks like I'm going to BestBuy when this puppy comes out.
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Here are some great links with all the official sprint details, as well as a link w/ some pictures from the live event which just occured...
Sprint EVO Press Release: http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...ol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1426178&highlight=
Sprint EVO fact sheet: http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=127149&p=irol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1426179
IntoMobile Live Coverage:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/12/live-sprints-htc-evo-4g-launch-event.html
Phandroid Summary:
http://phandroid.com/2010/05/12/htc-evo-4g-199-at-launch-available-june-4th/
Basically, $450 unsubsidized, $199 w/ two yr agreement, you will pay $10 extra data fee (b/c they think you will use more data "data rich experience" and it will cost $29 to use the mobile hotspot tethering feature. There will be an "upgrade" feature (from Qik?) that enables mobile to mobile video calls or mobile to desktop...similar to video skype (which verizon has locked down currently). HDMI out cable sold separately and there will be a car dock available as well as a tv docking station available at launch (dock and automatically sends video to your hi-def tv). Sprint is also rumored to be partnering with a video service to enable movie rentals over the air (similar to t-mobiles blockbuster app or Dell which is partnering with amazon videos).
I can't wait for the dev's to root this device!
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$450 unsubsidized? I heard it was gonna be $600. Where did you hear this? I need to buy it sans contract since I got my Hero is Oct.
Edit: Nevermind. I see how they figure that.
$449 in sprint email
Below is the fine print from an email i received from sprint on the EVO...it shows the $449 price.
This is a promotional email from Sprint. If you wish to unsubscribe from Sprint promotional emails, please use the link below.
http://sprint.p.delivery.net/m/u/nex/n.asp
To contact Sprint Nextel, write to: Office of Privacy - Legal Department, Sprint Nextel, P.O. Box 4600, Reston, VA 20195.
View the Sprint Privacy Policy.
May require up to a $36 activation fee/line, credit approval and deposit. Up to $200 early termination fee/line applies. Phone Offer: While supplies last. $449.99 - $150.00 (two-year activation) - $100.00 (mail-in rebate) = $199.99 (final price). Mail-in Rebate: Requires activation at the time of purchase. Line must be active 30 consecutive days. Allow 10 to 14 weeks for rebate. Upgrade: Existing customers in good standing with service on the same device for more than 22 consecutive months currently activated with a service plan of $39.99 or higher may be eligible. See in-store rebate form, sprint.com/upgrade for details. Everything Data Plan: Includes 450 Anytime Minutes. Additional Anytime Minutes (overage): Up to $0.40/minute. Nights: Monday - Thursday 7pm - 7am; Weekends: Friday 7pm - Monday 7am. Partial minutes charged as full minutes. Any Mobile, Anytime (AMA)/Unlimited Calls to Mobile: Applies when directly dialing/receiving standard voice calls between domestic wireless numbers as determined when the call is placed using independent 3rd party and Sprint data bases. Standard roaming rates/restrictions apply. Only available with select Sprint Plans and while on the Nationwide Sprint or Nextel National Networks (excludes calls to voicemail, 411, and other indirect methods). Data/Web: Premium content/downloads (games, ringers, songs, certain channels, etc.) are additional charge. Messaging: Includes text, picture and video for domestic messages sent or received. International messages are $0.20 sent or received. SMS voice messages may incur an additional data charge of $0.03/KB. Text to 3rd parties to participate in promotions or other may result in additional charges. International services are not included. GPS Navigation: GPS reliability varies by environment. Voice/Data Usage Limitation: Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 minutes or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. For other usage restrictions, including limiting throughput, see sprint.com/termsandconditions.
Other Terms: Coverage not available everywhere. Nationwide Sprint and Nextel National Networks reach over 276 and 277 million people, respectively. The 3G Sprint Mobile Broadband Network (including roaming) reaches over 273 million people. Sprint 4G available in over 30 markets and counting and on select devices. See sprint.com/4G for details. Offers and service plan features not available in all markets or retail locations or for all phones or networks. Sprint reserves the right to modify, extend or cancel offers at any time. Other restrictions apply.
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I see reports that FroYo is gonna have built-in USB tethering and Wifi Hotspot functionality. Does anyone know, if sprint for example doesn't specifically block the app, if they can determine you are using it. I am curious if they can figure out what you do on your phone or if they can just see the traffic.
HarveyStyles said:
I totally understand trying to make a buck, to run a business, but I'm not about to pay $29 a month, for a feature, that we can probably wait and get for free. I cannot wait to get this phone!
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I agree 100%!
setite said:
I see reports that FroYo is gonna have built-in USB tethering and Wifi Hotspot functionality. Does anyone know, if sprint for example doesn't specifically block the app, if they can determine you are using it. I am curious if they can figure out what you do on your phone or if they can just see the traffic.
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I have also seen this information. With sprint offering this hotspot as an addon package it is very probable that they will probably disable it. Devs will fix that pretty quick. However I dont think if you are doing moderate surfing they will have any idea. Where it might become a problem is if you are downloading say 5-10gb worth of data a month after doing 500mb of data the previous month. They might get a little suspicious. Moral of the story.....just download 10gb every month from the get go, they will never know what hit them.
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I have also seen this information. With sprint offering this hotspot as an addon package it is very probable that they will probably disable it. Devs will fix that pretty quick. However I dont think if you are doing moderate surfing they will have any idea. Where it might become a problem is if you are downloading say 5-10gb worth of data a month after doing 500mb of data the previous month. They might get a little suspicious. Moral of the story.....just download 10gb every month from the get go, they will never know what hit them.
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I can do this. I have been intentionally finding ways to ramp up my data usage on my iPhone. The best thing I have found is to stream classical music when I sleep on the iheartradio app. It has a nice non-verbal classical station that ensures I go to sleep and stay asleep without getting into a dead sleep I find hard to wake up from Any other ideas on ramping up my monthly usage