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I can upgrade for £399 (inc vat). Told them "no way, I'll go to O2 thanks". They dropped the price instantly to £250 and then to £200 (for an 18 month contract). They'll have a date for me maybe by the end of the week.
For reference and comparison, I'm about 2 months past the end of my 12 month contract of £15+VAT/month for 100mb and expensive voice calls, normal spend is around £25-£30 inc vat.
I'll wait to see what O2's new data tariffs are like, but if T-mobile can maybe do something to decrease my voice call costs then I think I'll go for it
What tarif is that?
All I found in the T-mobile lists is a 100mb a month 3g datacard tarif, but it was £25 a month, voice at 25p a minute.
£15 a month for 100meg is great!!!
I pay 25p a minute on payg for voice anyway, so id love this tarif, but not sure if yours is similar? where did you see it?
Oh, and forget o2 for data. They suck. They are pushing the blackberry thing, and its like £15 a month for 5meg. Extra data bundles cost a fortune and ive never had a consistant answer on what is included, and what does what, if its full internet access or wap or whatever.
When is the universal due out with our uk carriers?End of the month?
I'm on the old version of that tariff - T Mobile Communication Center (sic) GPRS card at £15+VAT for 100mb and then 50ppm for voice. I bought from http://www.directmobilephones.com
On the downside, if you go over your 100mb, they sting you at £7.50/mb. Ouch.
On the other hand, I'm sure they have billing problems and I reckon I transfer around 40mb/month, not the 25mb on my bill. Or maybe Onspeed is doing a greater job than I thought 8)
O2 do some OK data tariffs - Data 36 at £14.50 and data 512 at £40 (both + VAT iirc) seem like fairly good deals to me, particularly as voice calls are only 25p (inc vat) on that deal.
ps - if anyone wants to try onspeed, please pm me for an affiliate code.
jay,
1st October: T Mobile - source - recent, "off the record" T mobile manager
3rd October: O2 - source - recent, on the record O2
28th October: Vodafone - source - not too recent, on the record vodafone manager
Uknown probably towards the end of October: Orange - source, nothing more than sales droids
Probably never: Three - source, wild speculation :wink:
Cheers for that.If it were to come out on three you'd probably get it for a fiver with free mb forever!Shame everyone else is such a rip off!
If it were to come out on THREE youd be wasting your time as they still dont offer a data service yet!
Correct me if im wrong, but youd want proper internet on your Universal not just the crappy THREE walled garden filled with Manure from THREE.
At risk of straying off topic, Three now offer proper internet access for £45 inc vat (for 512mb iirc). So, based on my current usage of 40ish mb and 30 minutes:
T mobile, 100mb, 30 minutes peak all networks
£30 per month x 12 = £360 + £250 for the handset = £610
O2, using say 40mb + 30 minutes
£27 x 12 + £229 for the handset = £553
I could take out a new contract with T mobile, based on http://www.scancom.co.uk/ on ufix with
ufix 15
£15 x 12 + £305 = £485
My mistake on the THREE data, I didnt know they finally had it. Its a bit much for me though!
a 256meg for £20 would do me. Even 128meg for £10 now thats what we want!
Do you know if the £2.50 for 5meg is restricted at all? it seems strange, but id like to try that first before plonking down £45 quid a month
The "wireless web" £2.50 option does not give full http access - but it does cover a lot of popular websites: most of the bbc, ebay.com (but not .co.uk :lol: ) and quite a few others. But
1) 5mb is nothing :?
2) Once you've used it, you can't have anymore until next month, not even for more money
3) Erm, can't VPN on it
just a question ..
I'm french and living currently in uk - was a student and get a nice IT job. So from my pay as you go card I though getting THE exec or whatever name will the cheaper give to it
-> I really think to use VOIP over GPRS ..
Is skype usable with it ?
What the cost such solution ? (only the data on the carrier)
Could the carrier block or put on the contract a restriction on the VOIP ? (From what I get from my friends in France Orange(FR) and some other do)
Same question for IM (aim/msn/icq/jabber) VS SMS
was looking for some comparison on the web to get roughly an idea but didn't get something serious enough.
Q> Is skype usable with it ?
A> No, not the voice part anyway. IM, yes.
Q>What the cost such solution ? (only the data on the carrier) depends on network, but for non-bundle gprs its from £2 per meg to £8 per meg
Q> Could the carrier block or put on the contract a restriction on the VOIP ?
A> Yes, they do block things randomly and not tell you.
Q> Same question for IM (aim/msn/icq/jabber) VS SMS
A> O2 Pay as you go DOES NOT allow anything other than wap and http, all IM and email is blocked. I do not know about other carriers, but ive heard tmobile blocks email too.
Forget Pay as you go for Data, its expensive and slow gprs. You want to use a 3G link to make the most of the universal, so get a vodafone/orange/tmobile datacard tarif with bundled data. I think T-mobile let you make calls at 25p a minute on top of the data bundle, dont know about voice on the others though.
Hope this helps.
o2 isnt 2 bad for gprs i got 50mb for 4 pounds uk and 750 mintes and 150 txt for 25 pounds uk on o2 uk but that was a sim only deal as was going to go for vodaphone quite good really hope they can o somthing for the exec when it comes out
about the IM, I got a Jabber account on a server that get https...
For those who don't know jabber is an open source IM solution and it's not centralised (understand you can build your own server at home and communicate with all the other jabber server in the world - a bit like the mail) The beauty of jabber is the gateways I got AIM/ICQ/YAHOO/IRC/MSN gateway to be able to speak with other protocoles..
So .. I'll chat
it's quite a shame that they block randomly ports or whatever without telling you. I'll explicity ask them and list the price.
please do ask them too; normally 3g is far enough for skype (skype needs 3-5kbps)
Just spoken to T Mobile again - the chap on the end of the phone told me the same £200 and I said "well, I can get an XDA Exec for that on a much better tariff". So they halved it to £100 or free if I go for an 18 month contract. Bargain
That's a £15 + VAT/month tariff, typical spend under £30. They'll call me back as soon as they have a date. I'm hoping that date will be 1st October :wink:
"please do ask them too; normally 3g is far enough for skype (skype needs 3-5kbps)"
Id love to hear from anyone who has skype VOICE working on a 3g connection. As far as im aware the latency/ping time etc kill voice over 3g. The total data speed isnt really the issue, its the terrible network!
Id love for it to work, but im pretty sure its IM only and no voice.
Please correct me if you have actual evidence to the contrary
I am considering purchasing either the O2 Exec or the Orange M5000 but can not make my mind up.
I would be interested in what other members experiences have been on both networks.
Also is there any difference in the preinstalled software options etc.
I share your dilema
Also wondering, whats the best deal peopel found for it ? expecially with data
dunno about deals but the o2 exec is black with a blue backlight on the keyboard... Cool
I was with orange for a number of years using both the spv e200 and the spv m1000 (Best phone i've had in my opinion) but could not get a signal at home, this is why i switched to o2.
What about one of the T-Mobile Web'n'Walk tariffs?
I think Exec is not network locked and M5000 is... but with Orange you get 2-for-1 Orange Wednesday movie tickets!!!
There are reviews of both phones here,
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/index.php?Itemid=55
Its a news article so if you dont link to it today (28th) it will love down the page, basically its a double review comparing the Orange unit and o2 unit.
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I was on Orange for years, but went O2 contract for my magician (impatience), and then got my Universal on O2 data tariff for £5pcm, phone at £245 (impatience++)
I don't use my universal for phone calls, so it's great and on free PAYG sim for when i do. I wouldn't use the Universal as my phone, so this setup works well.
But between o2 and orange, I've found little difference of note. At least o2 makes an effort with o2 active, bloatware that it is. Orange's little UI is a bit weak, but strip it all off anyway.
Customer service is univerally unsatisfactory everywhere, although that's generally no issue day to day.
I like the o2 Exec's granite black like coldness. Silvery would be nice though if poss.
Frankly, little in it. Hardware's the same, system will be stripped down in use to what you want, so go with price and bundle. And play off your current operator if you've got one, to get a good deal. Call orange disconnections to put the heat on them.
V
True to the point - both devices have the same hardware. I have an exec and donot have any troubles with my device (running in corporate mode). I too would say it comes down to the network and colour of the device.
Orange in the least cares if you leave their network, as they have reached their customer target for the year, unless you are a business customer in which case they might try to retain your business. No matter what your monthly spend they are not making any efforts to keep customers, so it is very unlikely they will give you a better deal even if you call retentions.
Also from 1st Dec 2005 on all orange plans freephone calls will be chargeable. i.e. 0800/0500/0808 are no longer included in your inclusive minutes.
Also, if you take an OVP tariff or £50+ tariff, you would not be able to downgrade for the term of your contract. You can upgrade though whenever you want.
Orange is making many such changes to its tariffs and so if you decide to join them or upgrade with them, make sure you read the fine print first.
Being with o2, I can highlight some benefits I see. See if they suit your need better as well.
o2 active browsing is free till dec end. In-store they are doing exclusive 3G tariffs - 02 500 - also till dec end in both 12 and 18 mnth variants.
1000mins+200txts for 6mnths and 500+100 thereafter + 100kb o2 active browsing allowance @ £35pm for 12mnths.
750mins + 150txts + 100kb o2 active browsing allowance @ £35pm for 18 mnths.
o2 online offers only 18 mnth tariff in talker and texter option but inclusive o2 active active allowance is 1MB @£35pm.
Inclusive minutes include UK fixed line calls,WAP over GSM data calls, calls to O2 mobiles and calls to other UK mobiles (‘cross network’).
The Universal has the option to lock to GSM or UMTS network signal for services. But, browsing is slower on GSM as compare to 3G.
Also SIM provided is usuable is non-3G handsets as well.
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True to the point - both devices have the same hardware. I have an exec and donot have any troubles with my device (running in corporate mode). I too would say it comes down to the network and colour of the device.
Orange in the least cares if you leave their network, as they have reached their customer target for the year, unless you are a business customer in which case they might try to retain your business. No matter what your monthly spend they are not making any efforts to keep customers, so it is very unlikely they will give you a better deal even if you call retentions.
Also from 1st Dec 2005 on all orange plans freephone calls will be chargeable. i.e. 0800/0500/0808 are no longer included in your inclusive minutes.
Also, if you take an OVP tariff or £50+ tariff, you would not be able to downgrade for the term of your contract. You can upgrade though whenever you want.
Orange is making many such changes to its tariffs and so if you decide to join them or upgrade with them, make sure you read the fine print first.
Being with o2, I can highlight some benefits I see. See if they suit your need better as well.
o2 active browsing is free till dec end. In-store they are doing exclusive 3G tariffs - 02 500 - also till dec end in both 12 and 18 mnth variants.
1000mins+200txts for 6mnths and 500+100 thereafter + 100kb o2 active browsing allowance @ £35pm for 12mnths.
750mins + 150txts + 100kb o2 active browsing allowance @ £35pm for 18 mnths.
o2 online offers only 18 mnth tariff in talker and texter option but inclusive o2 active active allowance is 1MB @£35pm.
Inclusive minutes include UK fixed line calls,WAP over GSM data calls, calls to O2 mobiles and calls to other UK mobiles (‘cross network’).
The Universal has the option to lock to GSM or UMTS network signal for services. But, browsing is slower on GSM as compare to 3G.
Also SIM provided is usuable is non-3G handsets as well.
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Orange had the nerve to run an advertising campaign about looking after existing customers. Funny. I shifted over to T-Mobile for 2 contracts and left Orange which I had 3 contracts on. Contrary to comments above, the customer service people at orange are a complete bunch of luddites. Its a good job ringing them is free, although I'm sure they will start charging soon, they'd save loads of money and also make it too. T-Mobile customer services whilst chargable is much better and they people on the line don't get attitude with you.
I'm also sure that Orange is the worst value network in the UK for sure.
i've never paid for t-mobile support. It's free by dialling 150. Not everyone knows all the answers but they usually find out.
I have just phoned Orange to ask for an upgrade to the M5000 - want £199.99 and will not budge on that price (been with orange for 10+ years, £30 per month contract).
O2 website got fairly good deal (online talker deal):
+ £149.99 for handset
+ 400 mins x-net
+ 150 texts
+ can use text allowance for SMS or MMS
+ 1mb data included
+ video calls charged at same rate as voice calls (is this permanent?!? not mentioned anywhere that a promotion - therefore free video calls within my 400 mins allowance?! If yes, this is superb?!)
+ Non geographical numbers included in monthly allowance
- 18 month contract
- Need to install into the Corp mode
Any other comments on this deal?
yeah the data allowance is tiny. the universal is all about being connected, and you will need lots of data to use the potential.
No, the video call is a promotional offer and only for o2 to o2 video calls. It is mentioned in the tariff details. Video calls will cost 50p once the promotion is over, but as of now they are free. Don't remember when the promotion is ending but might be 31st March 2006. Please check with customer services. Might want to look at the o2 500 promotional tariff, which costs just £5 more and gives 600 more minutes pm. i.e. £35pm and gives you 1000 minutes + 150txts throughout the 18 month period.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/shop/o2uk/jsp/handsets/3GPhones.jsp
Cost of phone is same but £25 cheaper is u buy through the student website.
www.o2.co.uk/nus
Yes, the data package is less, you can get a bolts on though I think for more data. As of now it is free till 31st dec.
Also data calls over WAP are included in inclusive minutes - this I think should mean that if I lock the phone to GSM mode and use the browing features, i will use data over WAP from my inclusive minutes to browse. I may be wrong, for I won't know for sure post-dec as till now all browsing is free and they do not provide with any usage details.
ahh ok - thought it must be a promo !
Hopefully I'm being stupid, but O2 shop doesn't let you select the 3G tariff with the EXEC ??
Yea, its not you. Actually they keep putting the exec with the 3g tariff and then removing it every now and then. They are selling them out at a faster pace than they can stock em, me thinks. So trying to sell more on other tariffs.
Anyways, just select any 3G phone deal, choose talker/texter and later in the basket choose continue with the displayed package and then click edit phone and choose O2 XDA Exec - 3G from the drop down list.
Cheers :wink:
Thanks ordered Exec today, due tomorrow
i have just left orange, they seemed to be coming across a bit carefree about keeping my custom over the last 6 months, when they then made a press statement to say they were launching the m5000 in the UK but wasn't then available for another 2 months i got fed up
i have now moved to o2, got the xda exec for £139 and on the 3G 500 online package, 1000 minutes, 150 texts etc, very pleased with o2 so far, had to ring o2 to make my order as i couldn't get the exec and the 3G package on the web order as stated in post furthur up.
looks like orange would have charged me £299 for the m5000 which for me is way too much.
so well done O2, i well recommend them. only small gripe is they don't seem to be quite as transparent as orange when it comes to looking at costs on tariffs.
oh another thing, ordered phone at 20:55hrs on tuesday night, phone arrived via DHL 07:30 on the thursday, was expecting to have to wait several weeks as phone was in such demand.
Same here... Orange were not at all bothered about me moving..
O2 have been great so far, quick delivery! 750 mins and 750 texts can't be beaten!
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only small gripe is they don't seem to be quite as transparent as orange when it comes to looking at costs on tariffs.
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Yea their website needs a lot of improvement. Think they are working on it as they are doing a survey on the website for customer friendliness. Just popped up last time I visited www.o2.co.uk
As for tariff details, you can always call them else you bill states the various call charges for your selected plan - right column page 2.
Was wondering if I could get some feedback on this:
I've just signed up to a contract with T-Mobile where for 92 pounds a month inc VAT I get
2 sim cards that share 2000 cross network minutes anytime between them,
calls between the sims are free for the life of the contract
included in the minutes are calls to north America and Europe
I get 3 free months line rental
i get free insurance for the term of the contract on both my handsets
the contract is 18 months
I get a FREE MDA PRO and a MDA VARIO
are there better deals out there?
Out of curiosity, does the insurance cover theft without visible signs of forced entry, ie, someone picks your pocket/lifts your manpurse/whatever?
Anyway, if you're really so heavy a user that you plan on using a significant fraction of those minutes, especially with calls abroad, it might well be a decent deal. Contract is 18 months with three free, so you've contracted to pay 15*92=1380 quid for the two phones plus however much you end up using of the minutes etc. I wouldn't be able to even begin to make it a good deal, but I barely use my phones to make calls with.
Thanks for the reply, I actually will probably end up exceeding those minutes.
I also managed to convince them to throw 10MB free in as well today. Its amazing what you can get if you say such and such company is prepared to give me this.....................
thought i would start this thread as i'm looking for the best deal out there so people may be able to advise
been offered off t mobile
18 month contract free phone
600min
500 text
unlimited internet with 3gig FUP
1x flexi booster either freelandline calls or free calls to t mobile phone
does the t moblie HD come unlocked and does it have any t mobile branding on the phonev
just took the plunge phone coming tomorrow cant wait
MPD as usual is still my best option as the phone will come sim free and on a t-mobile £30 per month tariff. this gives you 900 mins, 500 texts, 1gig data and phone is FREE. if get direct from t-mobile phone will be sim locked and its only free on £40 tariff
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MPD as usual is still my best option as the phone will come sim free and on a t-mobile £30 per month tariff. this gives you 900 mins, 500 texts, 1gig data and phone is FREE. if get direct from t-mobile phone will be sim locked and its only free on £40 tariff
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people are reporting the phones from t mobile are coming unbranded and unlocked,i got it free also on the £35 per month and its unlimited net with a 3 gig FUP so suits my needs , i dont text alot but do use the net alot
e2save.
£25/month for 24 months on T-mobile. Phone is free. 600 mins/500 text/1gb internet.
£46 quidco as well
Phone is unbranded and unlocked (in my hand now!)
I just ordered from phones4u:
Orange £35/pmth 18/mth
500 mins
ultd texts
500mb internet
FREE phone
Its the best 18 month contract I could find!
As an ex-Vodafone customer returning because of the DHD, I managed to negotiate this amazing deal: 300 minutes, unlimited texts, 'unlimited' Internet, 18 months, free phone, £26 a month. The phone arrives next week....
Voda is looking to stem a fall in market share right now so it's a good place to push for a good deal.
Thats funny because when I tried to negotiate a deal with them to renew my contract with them (bearing in mind it was not as good as a deal you got) they really could not be interested.
So cutting a long story short I have said good bye to voda and hello again t-mobile.
looking at buying the desire HD before the new policy changes take effect in a few days... but i heard something saying that only android phones bought direct from Tmobile will be eligible for 3GB allowance and HSDPA connection speeds?
I have looked at Tmobile prices and frankly there rediculous...
Is there no way to buy cheaper through a 3rd party seller and still get the 3GB and fast connection speeds?
I did find 1 3rd party seller who states on the page itself ..
`*Fair use policy applies to Unlimited Internet: so you get up to 1GB with standard phones and and when you get the Internet flexible booster; up to 3GB with Andriod phones and 50MB with the BlackBerry email booster.`
so now im wondering if they just dont know about the 3rd party seller restrictions?
thanks for any help...... desperate to get it sorted before the 500mb comes into force,,
What prices have you seen? The t mobile prices seem very reasonable to me...
I forgot to mention, its always worth calling them and asking them to please you. It can help if you are an old customer, but not always! I have 900 mins, 500 texts, 3gb net, and two flexible boosters (ultd texts and ultd landline calls) for about 30 quid a month
As of today if you buy a T-Mobile contract which is non-Android (give away is that they sell the "unlimited broadband" via a free booster you will have a 1GB FUP but more importantly your data speed is capped to 360Kbps.
I had this "problem" when I bought my DHD from mobiles.co.uk. However a quick call to T-Mobile to log a "fault" with my mobile data saw me moved happily onto the standard Android setup - ie where a booster is not used for the unlimited broadband.
direct with T-mobile , they give you the 3GB on top for android phones, still got your booster to use.
3rd party, they use the booster for the basic unlimited 1gb internet.
Note, go via quidco, as new direct t-mobile contracts pays you £80 back.
i think direct works out the same if you take into account the extra booster and use / need it. For me the £5 euro talk and text saves me a few quid, as i pop into the eurozone a fair bit.
my contracts up for renewal on the 24th, so gotta get it sorted before 1st feb too, or ill have to go to 3
Giffgaff.com unlimited data unlimited texts 200min that's all for 10£
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MattSkeet said:
Giffgaff.com unlimited data unlimited texts 200min that's all for 10£
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just had a look, ( 250mins now btw ) they are a sim only provider, so not that great a deal compared to contracts when looking at 24 months with a phone deals.
Looking for 500/600ish mins per month, and giffgaffs £20pm x24 £480 not much more with tmobile and ill get a DHD oh and some euro calls.
Nice if you allready have a decent phone tho
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After another phone call to Tmob.. retentions offerdf me there best price for the DHD,,, was a joke,,, basicly 40 quid a month... the same deal any normal new customer can buy it for from the website.... needless to say i declined..
Phoned back laster to ask about the 3rd party reseller thing and the 3gb/faster data speeds... and was told that yes... if i buy my phone from somewhere like CPW or MPD.. it would only have the standard 1gb and slower data connection speed..... if bought from tmob them i would have 3gb/faster data connection as standard.... but ,, 40 quid??
After a few more questions she also mentioned that `official` 3rd party Tmob resellers also would have the 3gb/fast data on there android contracts..
I didnt even know of such places.... but phoned 1 this morning... and got a great deal on an upgrade...
Basicly 600 mins... 500 texts.. 3gb allowance with extra booster of my choice...(unlimited land line calls).. for £25 a month (although had to pay 30 quid up front for the DHD)
well pleased with that
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kBasicly 600 mins... 500 texts.. 3gb allowance with extra booster of my choice...(unlimited land line calls).. for £25 a month (although had to pay 30 quid up front for the DHD)
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who did you get that from?????
Daz555 said:
As of today if you buy a T-Mobile contract which is non-Android (give away is that they sell the "unlimited broadband" via a free booster you will have a 1GB FUP but more importantly your data speed is capped to 360Kbps.
I had this "problem" when I bought my DHD from mobiles.co.uk. However a quick call to T-Mobile to log a "fault" with my mobile data saw me moved happily onto the standard Android setup - ie where a booster is not used for the unlimited broadband.
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I got my DHD from mobiles.co.uk just under 2 weeks ago but i haven't yet used the new sim card. Once i start using it next month am i likely to be restricted or should i be ok since i got it almost 2 weeks ago?
beasty54 said:
I got my DHD from mobiles.co.uk just under 2 weeks ago but i haven't yet used the new sim card. Once i start using it next month am i likely to be restricted or should i be ok since i got it almost 2 weeks ago?
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Probably restricted, I was when I first received mine from mobiles.co.uk. As said above though, just give t-mob a call and explain your internet is slower than expected, as long as you get a decent enough/stupid enough operator they should upgrade you to the full 3gb and release an extra add-on. I did exactly this, she didn't query where I bought the phone from and simply said "oh yes, looks like someone messed up on your order, i'll change that to unlimited internet now which also free's up a booster for you, which would you like?" Sorted.
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who did you get that from?????
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Place online called Chitterchatter,,,, i had never heard of em untill the Tmobile rep told me they were a accepted reseller.... glad i tried em
Know the shops, they are T-Mobile only highstreet sellers
And walked passed one an hour ago, may pop back Monday
my deal was for an upgrade,,,,, but they still do a crackin deal on a new contract too,,
FREE Screen Protector and Car Holder with HTC Desire HD
* 900 minutes
* 500 texts
* £30 per month 24 month contract
* Handset Free
i woulda went with this if they hadnt sorted out the £25pm line rental...
couldn't do that deal for me wanted £125 on top for the phone,
went direct with T-mobile in the end.
£30.64 per month 24months = £735.36 !
900min
500 texts
3GB internet
And euro booster
phone cost £0
Similar deal here when I upgraded on T-Mobile a few weeks ago. After calling 150 and telling them all the upgrade deals on their website sucked, they tempted me to stay with £30 p/m, free Desire HD, 600 any time / any network minutes, unlimited texts (with booster) and I'm still on the 3GB data plan. The best bit is they had no phones in stock so let me pick one up from my local Car Phone Warehouse... so it was unlocked and unbranded
I've taken my from third party reseller few months a go. (It was normal desire but I've sold it and bought dhd)
Sent email to tmobile after purchase that my internet is slow and received txt that I've used 80% of my allowance (by 3g watchdog i've used only 800mb)
They fixed that gave me 3gb allowance and hsdpa speed but didn't leave me a extra booster. My miss is in Italy and I had to ring her so decided to call tmobile first and tell them I can't pick my free booster. Guy over the phone put a booster for me and what is better reset my together rewards (i've used it few days a go).
So now I have normal plan like I would buy it directly from tmobile and what's better for £25 I have:
900min
600txt
3gb internet
Booster
Desire HD
Wicked!!!
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