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UK Yearly costs per provider for webnwalk200 equivilent

Hi
Have you seen the price of the universal on www.orange.co.uk ?? madness!! £299 on a £30/mnth contract !!! And they are yet another provider that refuse to sell it data-only.
Here are the costs per year for 200 any network mins + 40MB 3G/GPRS data. (aka webnwalk200) + an HTC Universal for each provider. I will consider consumer products only, and it should all be orderable online (as opposed to speaking to a brain-dead dimwit in a call centre).
Orange
£30+~£25 = £55/mnth + £299 for the device. Cost for 1 year: £959
(they dont do 40MB, they do 80MB or £42)
T-Mobile
12x£16 + 6x£35 + £149.99 Cost for 1 year: £551.99
(and you are actually getting 18 months of webnwalk200 rather than 12 months for this)
O2
£30/mnth for the voice mins incl 1MB data, + £8 for 5MB Data + (34x£3) for the remaining 34MB data = £140/mnth. Device is 139.99. Cost for 1 year: £1819.99
To sumarise:
O2: £1899.99
Orange: £959
T-Mobile: £551.99
I suspect vodafone will be just as bad if they ever release the universal!
T-mobile, would then be a clear winner, trouble is that unless you live in one of about 10 cities in the UK then you'll not get any ruddy 3G off of them. I see zero reasons to choose orange (overpriced data and expensive handset). The only reason to choose O2 is if you never intend to use the unit for 3G/GPRS data.
None of the providers have got the tarriffs for flogging data centric devices correct, but T-mobile comes the closest. If they would offer an option to ditch some mins in favour of some text messages then they would have it sorted!!
Nigel

O2 will sell you a Exec on a data only tariff, the basic is £9.40 per month and the Exec can be between £180 and £230 (with and without a trade-in). I know as I have done this.

I assume that was £230+VAT ??
I cant find this online, and whenever I phone up they say, 'you what?, data only, oooh dont know wot that is mate! try our business lot' I phone the business lot and cannot get a more intelegent response from them either.
bunch of dimwits!
The only time I did speak to someone who would do data only, they wanted to charge me £400 quid for the exec. Also, you cannot get data on a consumer contract, only on a business contract. i.e their data 36,75,200 etc products are business products.
Unless you know different?
Nigel

The prices I mentioned include VAT.
You can only get this deal from O2 stores.
There are lots of references to the Data 5 data only tariff if you do a UK google search: you'll even find a reference at the O2 web site.

I think it depends on how informed the staff in the local store are!! Certainly, they know nothing about it in my local branch! I will re-myther them. Data 5 aint gonna be a whole lot of use tho! I tried to get data200 beforehand.
Why on earth you cant get these online like you can with everyone else I will never know.
Nigel

depends on what you want , if you want an unlocked black version
with either a mainly data ( shop) or mainly voice ( online) tariff then o2 do seem better
If you want a combined ( mid say 200mb) data and voice tariff , T Mobile seem competitive on standard tariff versions, but a trip to the o2 shops might also get you a low voivce and mid data tariff with a reasonable handset price combination

It depends on the tariff and the deal you get.
I got an M5000 added to a business tariff. The phone was about £200 plus cashback of £100 and with another £50 cashback for giving them an old phone (a moto movistar).
Granted, theres the ongoing business cost, but if you get someone in the shop who knows what they're talking about, you can get quite a lot off the price.
But I'll give you ... theres no sensible data tariffs in the UK. The best I've seen is £1 per day GPRS which you can only get on PAYG. Dual sims a go-go.

O2 or ORANGE UK

I am considering purchasing either the O2 Exec or the Orange M5000 but can not make my mind up.
I would be interested in what other members experiences have been on both networks.
Also is there any difference in the preinstalled software options etc.

I share your dilema
Also wondering, whats the best deal peopel found for it ? expecially with data

dunno about deals but the o2 exec is black with a blue backlight on the keyboard... Cool
I was with orange for a number of years using both the spv e200 and the spv m1000 (Best phone i've had in my opinion) but could not get a signal at home, this is why i switched to o2.

What about one of the T-Mobile Web'n'Walk tariffs?

I think Exec is not network locked and M5000 is... but with Orange you get 2-for-1 Orange Wednesday movie tickets!!!

There are reviews of both phones here,
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/index.php?Itemid=55
Its a news article so if you dont link to it today (28th) it will love down the page, basically its a double review comparing the Orange unit and o2 unit.

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I was on Orange for years, but went O2 contract for my magician (impatience), and then got my Universal on O2 data tariff for £5pcm, phone at £245 (impatience++)
I don't use my universal for phone calls, so it's great and on free PAYG sim for when i do. I wouldn't use the Universal as my phone, so this setup works well.
But between o2 and orange, I've found little difference of note. At least o2 makes an effort with o2 active, bloatware that it is. Orange's little UI is a bit weak, but strip it all off anyway.
Customer service is univerally unsatisfactory everywhere, although that's generally no issue day to day.
I like the o2 Exec's granite black like coldness. Silvery would be nice though if poss.
Frankly, little in it. Hardware's the same, system will be stripped down in use to what you want, so go with price and bundle. And play off your current operator if you've got one, to get a good deal. Call orange disconnections to put the heat on them.
V

True to the point - both devices have the same hardware. I have an exec and donot have any troubles with my device (running in corporate mode). I too would say it comes down to the network and colour of the device.
Orange in the least cares if you leave their network, as they have reached their customer target for the year, unless you are a business customer in which case they might try to retain your business. No matter what your monthly spend they are not making any efforts to keep customers, so it is very unlikely they will give you a better deal even if you call retentions.
Also from 1st Dec 2005 on all orange plans freephone calls will be chargeable. i.e. 0800/0500/0808 are no longer included in your inclusive minutes.
Also, if you take an OVP tariff or £50+ tariff, you would not be able to downgrade for the term of your contract. You can upgrade though whenever you want.
Orange is making many such changes to its tariffs and so if you decide to join them or upgrade with them, make sure you read the fine print first.
Being with o2, I can highlight some benefits I see. See if they suit your need better as well.
o2 active browsing is free till dec end. In-store they are doing exclusive 3G tariffs - 02 500 - also till dec end in both 12 and 18 mnth variants.
1000mins+200txts for 6mnths and 500+100 thereafter + 100kb o2 active browsing allowance @ £35pm for 12mnths.
750mins + 150txts + 100kb o2 active browsing allowance @ £35pm for 18 mnths.
o2 online offers only 18 mnth tariff in talker and texter option but inclusive o2 active active allowance is 1MB @£35pm.
Inclusive minutes include UK fixed line calls,WAP over GSM data calls, calls to O2 mobiles and calls to other UK mobiles (‘cross network’).
The Universal has the option to lock to GSM or UMTS network signal for services. But, browsing is slower on GSM as compare to 3G.
Also SIM provided is usuable is non-3G handsets as well.

zillocx said:
True to the point - both devices have the same hardware. I have an exec and donot have any troubles with my device (running in corporate mode). I too would say it comes down to the network and colour of the device.
Orange in the least cares if you leave their network, as they have reached their customer target for the year, unless you are a business customer in which case they might try to retain your business. No matter what your monthly spend they are not making any efforts to keep customers, so it is very unlikely they will give you a better deal even if you call retentions.
Also from 1st Dec 2005 on all orange plans freephone calls will be chargeable. i.e. 0800/0500/0808 are no longer included in your inclusive minutes.
Also, if you take an OVP tariff or £50+ tariff, you would not be able to downgrade for the term of your contract. You can upgrade though whenever you want.
Orange is making many such changes to its tariffs and so if you decide to join them or upgrade with them, make sure you read the fine print first.
Being with o2, I can highlight some benefits I see. See if they suit your need better as well.
o2 active browsing is free till dec end. In-store they are doing exclusive 3G tariffs - 02 500 - also till dec end in both 12 and 18 mnth variants.
1000mins+200txts for 6mnths and 500+100 thereafter + 100kb o2 active browsing allowance @ £35pm for 12mnths.
750mins + 150txts + 100kb o2 active browsing allowance @ £35pm for 18 mnths.
o2 online offers only 18 mnth tariff in talker and texter option but inclusive o2 active active allowance is 1MB @£35pm.
Inclusive minutes include UK fixed line calls,WAP over GSM data calls, calls to O2 mobiles and calls to other UK mobiles (‘cross network’).
The Universal has the option to lock to GSM or UMTS network signal for services. But, browsing is slower on GSM as compare to 3G.
Also SIM provided is usuable is non-3G handsets as well.
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Orange had the nerve to run an advertising campaign about looking after existing customers. Funny. I shifted over to T-Mobile for 2 contracts and left Orange which I had 3 contracts on. Contrary to comments above, the customer service people at orange are a complete bunch of luddites. Its a good job ringing them is free, although I'm sure they will start charging soon, they'd save loads of money and also make it too. T-Mobile customer services whilst chargable is much better and they people on the line don't get attitude with you.
I'm also sure that Orange is the worst value network in the UK for sure.

i've never paid for t-mobile support. It's free by dialling 150. Not everyone knows all the answers but they usually find out.

I have just phoned Orange to ask for an upgrade to the M5000 - want £199.99 and will not budge on that price (been with orange for 10+ years, £30 per month contract).
O2 website got fairly good deal (online talker deal):
+ £149.99 for handset
+ 400 mins x-net
+ 150 texts
+ can use text allowance for SMS or MMS
+ 1mb data included
+ video calls charged at same rate as voice calls (is this permanent?!? not mentioned anywhere that a promotion - therefore free video calls within my 400 mins allowance?! If yes, this is superb?!)
+ Non geographical numbers included in monthly allowance
- 18 month contract
- Need to install into the Corp mode
Any other comments on this deal?

yeah the data allowance is tiny. the universal is all about being connected, and you will need lots of data to use the potential.

No, the video call is a promotional offer and only for o2 to o2 video calls. It is mentioned in the tariff details. Video calls will cost 50p once the promotion is over, but as of now they are free. Don't remember when the promotion is ending but might be 31st March 2006. Please check with customer services. Might want to look at the o2 500 promotional tariff, which costs just £5 more and gives 600 more minutes pm. i.e. £35pm and gives you 1000 minutes + 150txts throughout the 18 month period.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/shop/o2uk/jsp/handsets/3GPhones.jsp
Cost of phone is same but £25 cheaper is u buy through the student website.
www.o2.co.uk/nus
Yes, the data package is less, you can get a bolts on though I think for more data. As of now it is free till 31st dec.
Also data calls over WAP are included in inclusive minutes - this I think should mean that if I lock the phone to GSM mode and use the browing features, i will use data over WAP from my inclusive minutes to browse. I may be wrong, for I won't know for sure post-dec as till now all browsing is free and they do not provide with any usage details.

ahh ok - thought it must be a promo !
Hopefully I'm being stupid, but O2 shop doesn't let you select the 3G tariff with the EXEC ??

Yea, its not you. Actually they keep putting the exec with the 3g tariff and then removing it every now and then. They are selling them out at a faster pace than they can stock em, me thinks. So trying to sell more on other tariffs.
Anyways, just select any 3G phone deal, choose talker/texter and later in the basket choose continue with the displayed package and then click edit phone and choose O2 XDA Exec - 3G from the drop down list.
Cheers :wink:

Thanks ordered Exec today, due tomorrow

i have just left orange, they seemed to be coming across a bit carefree about keeping my custom over the last 6 months, when they then made a press statement to say they were launching the m5000 in the UK but wasn't then available for another 2 months i got fed up
i have now moved to o2, got the xda exec for £139 and on the 3G 500 online package, 1000 minutes, 150 texts etc, very pleased with o2 so far, had to ring o2 to make my order as i couldn't get the exec and the 3G package on the web order as stated in post furthur up.
looks like orange would have charged me £299 for the m5000 which for me is way too much.
so well done O2, i well recommend them. only small gripe is they don't seem to be quite as transparent as orange when it comes to looking at costs on tariffs.
oh another thing, ordered phone at 20:55hrs on tuesday night, phone arrived via DHL 07:30 on the thursday, was expecting to have to wait several weeks as phone was in such demand.

Same here... Orange were not at all bothered about me moving..
O2 have been great so far, quick delivery! 750 mins and 750 texts can't be beaten!

macca said:
only small gripe is they don't seem to be quite as transparent as orange when it comes to looking at costs on tariffs.
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Yea their website needs a lot of improvement. Think they are working on it as they are doing a survey on the website for customer friendliness. Just popped up last time I visited www.o2.co.uk
As for tariff details, you can always call them else you bill states the various call charges for your selected plan - right column page 2.

Free(?) GPRS on O2

My Xda has never caused me to be charged for GPRS useage. Even on O2 active downloads..........
I've checked my contract and I can see no reason for this strange occourance there.
Does anybody else have this strange ummmmm "problem".
The main problem I have is i'm now completely used to having the internet on my phone, and check my e-mail constantly, and am never signed off of MSN. I don't want to suddenly be hit by a HUGE bill.

tomw86 said:
My Xda has never caused me to be charged for GPRS useage. Even on O2 active downloads..........
I've checked my contract and I can see no reason for this strange occourance there.
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Is that O2 in the UK? I have just changed from O2 to T-Mobile but for the whole year I didn't get charged a penny for GPRS. My contract included 1MB free per month and I was regularly using 2 or 3MB. I read two possible causes for this: one was that they were offering free GPRS until 31st Dec '05, and another was that they simply had no way of working out charges for GPRS. Neither sound plausible to me.
Anyway - T-Mobile Web'n'Walk 100 - 100minutes per month, 40MB of data (£1 per MB after that), 18month contract, free MDA Compact II.....and nice and cheap as well....averages out at £22 per month.

I unfortunatly signed for 18 months (in june) on my O2 contract, to get my 50% extra free ("for life").
I technically only get 100kb free per month, and can often use 5Mb.....And web access isn't cheap on O2!

I've never been charged also.
Having been keeping on using 5~6M/Month,I'm waiting to check the bill of Jan,2006 to see wether they will charge or not.

I've had my O2 contract since January and never been charged for GPRS, and even swapped my original XDA II for an XDA Exec (Universal). I regularly use loads of bandwidth (about 500M+/month) as I don't have internet access at home.
I'm looking forward to see if the same applies to 3G!

Man, this is crazy! Sure you guys aren't going to have to leave the country when your bills come?!
I should download Platform Builder 5 like this
V

DAMMIT i have a 8 meg bundle on mine (O2)
i wonder if that means i will be charged as they know i will use it
HMMMMMM

never ever been charged a penny

Free GPRS
Good news for you guys,
Spoke to 02 earlier.
For pay monthly contract customers GPRS is completely free and unlimited until around May 2006, no matter how much you use you will never be charged.
For pay as ya go customers, 1st month on pay as you go comes with 5mb downloading included only.

So will o2 be charging existing customers after may 06 or is just new customers??
cheers

I'm glad I know when they're going to start charging, a grand for the internet is a bit much!
If only I could get bittorrent working without having to buy winmobile torrent ;-)!!!

Now I know that i'll leave it perminantly connected until then, and delete the connections after that!!!

tomw86 said:
Now I know that i'll leave it perminantly connected until then, and delete the connections after that!!!
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That's how I feel !
It seems to be mainly the online contracts that get this "perk" (I know people on o2 contracts that certainly do get billed for data !
I had an online tarrif for a year with my XDAII (cant remember the name . but it was 500 texts and 50 xnet minutes for £19) and found that I got never got billed a penny for data ! I was impressed ,and having previously abused the port 8080 loophole for free GPRS on PAYG online sims , I assumed that something in the seetings of the XDAII was doing something similar ! - but then I used the sim in my Nokia 9500 and then my Qtek s100 and found that I just never got billed , no matter what settings I used
This was something I took into consideration when looking for a new "deal" when I purchased my Exec (obviously crossing my fingers that it would still be free on my new contract !) -All you can eat GPRS is worth a fortune when you think about it and (IMO ) worth at least an extra £50 on your bill !
At least (if you are on an online contract) you can keep an eye on your usage on the website - My last contract always showed an inclusive 1mb , of which I had used 0 ( :lol: ) despite having used untold amounts !
I think I'll start to pay special attention to this in May/June :roll:
Just one thing - Have o2 not threatened to begin charging a few times before ? I am sure I recall a few "Deadlines" being mentioned in the past year or so ?

oops - double post , sorry !

yeah i heard that too was may last year also that they said theyd charge for gprs lol still free today :roll:

Hmmmm interesting.
I am on o2 200 (not an online contract) and was paranoid about gprs use as there is only 100k included. I have never paid for any data on this contract (even before getting the exec 2 weeks ago) but certainly must've used more than that.
I just logged into to their incomprehensible website where you can view your charges so far this month and it is showing nothing used - and I've been playing with Opera on the Exec!

I've had my O2 200 tariff for about 18 months & use the GPRS quite alot per month, even abroad, & have never been charged.

zoidster said:
All you can eat GPRS is worth a fortune when you think about it and (IMO ) worth at least an extra £50 on your bill !
At least (if you are on an online contract) you can keep an eye on your usage on the website - My last contract always showed an inclusive 1mb , of which I had used 0 ( :lol: ) despite having used untold amounts !
I think I'll start to pay special attention to this in May/June :roll:
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THat explains it! I've only just joined O2 (as an online customer) and I've been confused about having used ZERO of my free 5 meg browse. I assumed it was free because it was all free until 31st Dec. I am meant to get 1 Meg a month.
I agree with EVERYTHING I have quoted above: It's worth a fortune; I keep checking online and have used 0; and I will pay close attention in future! :lol:

Not sure where I will go after o2 stop this "madness"
Probably orange PAYG on the £1 per day thing if it is still availabe(despite having existing contracts with Orange and Voda at the moment )

Is this still working?
I have been on o2 250 for the past month - their online billing shows 0 used despite me using it regularly. The inclusive 100K seems to disappear after a few pages.
Does anyone know if it is really free until May 2006? I note another thread where someone says they have received a text message from o2 saying that their free trial is over and they will be charged after 31st March.
I cannot see that o2 aren't aware of this, or that they cannot measure it as they are a technology company :roll:.
As I only had the Welcome Download (5MB) in the first month, and nothing appeared to be logged (on the website anyway), how would I know if I was part of their free trial? (mentioned above about text message stating it had ended). Are we sure that they are not logging it and it just hasn't appeared on the website due to a technical problem (only for them to present a bill later). Is there a limit to how long after you have used this that they can bill you?
Many thanks
Anon

I'm planning to buy universal in UK-contract advice wanted

I'm thinking of getting either the T-Mobile MDA Pro or O2 Exec in the UK. Or if I was to get an unlocked one could I use my existing sim card (not O2 or T-Mobile) which is just a voice pay as you go?
Which one have people found to be the best?- probably more interms of contract rather than function as they should be the same??
Anything I should be looking out for?
Can I assume that if you don't take the "Data download" extra then you can't use GPRS???
Also is the O2 4mB "Browse and download" a better deal than the T-Mobile "Web & Walk"? While the web&walk is unlimited it's restricted to web browsing only (no internet radio steaming!). In your usage have you found 4Mb per month be enough or shouldn't I worry.
My main use would be for occasional remote access and sending emails on the move.
Any advice would be welcome.
Thanks,
Bill

Hi Billuk
I'd be very suprised if 4mb was enough for internet radio streaming anyway. There is a version of Web n Walk that is designed for higher users. It's about a tenner extra (Web n Walk Pro).

Thanks for the reply.
The W&W Pro version may be overkill but as it's only a 12 month contract I can always switch or move onto a different contact if my usage doesn't match my contract.
Anyone else any other thoughts?
Are you all enjoying your Universals?
Is the T-Mobile offering the best one in the UK?
Thanks
Bill

Re: I'm planning to buy universal in UK-contract advice want
I was charged hugely (recently refunded) for one days internet streaming on O2, 32Mb it was, and was charged close to a hundred quid. I reserve it for when I'm at home on Wifi now.
Nobody touches T-Mobile for data. I'm sure the odd bit of streaming won't arouse their suspicions.
Get the T-Mobile Relax plan (12 month) with WebnWalk. Flext is 18month, you'll probably want to keep on the cutting edge of hardware in 12 months.

T-Mobile Web n Walk 3G, GPRS bundle
I am with T-mobile currently have a 3G/GPRS web bundle that lets you surf unlimited for £6.80 per month, not bad for 384k speeds when in 3G coverage. When you dont have 3G, it slips back to gprs at no extra cost.

I am under a 12-month contract with O2, which offers 200MB data flow per month at 25.99 exc. (29.7 inc.). This offer is a pure data offer and I use Nokia 6680 from 3 for voice & text. I enjoy this offer very much for its nearly unlimited access to online content if you don't download software, music and video.

i386 said:
I am under a 12-month contract with O2, which offers 200MB data flow per month at 25.99 exc. (29.7 inc.). This offer is a pure data offer and I use Nokia 6680 from 3 for voice & text. I enjoy this offer very much for its nearly unlimited access to online content if you don't download software, music and video.
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As a consumer, that deal isn't open to me, it's business only.
Sad, dark ages stuff.

since one of your thoguhts was to buy an unlocked device -
for me by far the cheapest way to own the exec was to go thorugh the 02 website I paid £150 and now £20 per month over 12 months on contract
Mostly I use wifi for all my data - there are so many unsecured / free ones, andof course at home and work I'm coverd.
Occaisionaly I use 3G and haven't had any problems/excessive bills - bound to be cheaper than pay as you go and probably if you use it infrequently cheaper than a regalur data package.

Hi
I would go for the xda exec as you can get this from o2 direct (0nline) for £149.99 on a £19 month tariff which = £377.99 over the minimum term of your contract and my xda is unlocked (as has every other o2 phone I have had been) which means you could get an Orange PAYg sim and get unlimited GPRS access for £1 per day and use this above the 1mb you get with your o2 contract
Full details can be found on Orange's web site here: http://www.orange.co.uk/service_plans/payasyougo/extra_costs.html
Basically as long as you have some credit on your PAYG sim, all you need to do is dial 450 and select 'buy an extra' Select 'orangeworld extra' and the
£1 wil be deducted from your existing credit on your phone.

AndyChecker said:
you could get an Orange PAYg sim and get unlimited GPRS access for £1 per day and use this above the 1mb you get with your o2 contract
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"Access Orange World and send multimedia messages for less."
Is Orange World unrestricted Internet Access? If so, Wow.
Why the hell are O2 so expensive for their data, if I can get unlimited data from ORange for £30/mth.

Hi
Yeah Orange is - you pay your £1 and you have ulimited access for that day (starts and ends at midnight)
Loads of people have been using it but not many people know about it hence my post here and on my forum

AndyChecker said:
Hi
Yeah Orange is - you pay your £1 and you have ulimited access for that day (starts and ends at midnight)
Loads of people have been using it but not many people know about it hence my post here and on my forum
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UK orange world is full internet and UK Tmob WnW is just http? Wow, talk about reverse worlds.
In the Netherlands, Tmobile WnW at 10 euros a month (6-7 quid) is unrestricted traffic, unrestricted internet, proxyfree -- just that on the UMTS/HSDPA network your connection speed is (supposed to be? may not be atm) limited to 64 kbit/s maximum rather than full UMTS.
Whereas Orange World is http-only through a proxy, costs 6 euros a month unlimited traffic, with regular internet traffic being charged by the meg.

Best Internet Price Plan

Ive been searching a few of the UK network websites for internet or data price plans such as o2, vodafone and T-mobile but i'm not to sure which is the best, Web n Walk certainly looks a good option.
I would have purchased the phone on contract but being a student it wouldn't be a wise option, does anybody know any decent price plans?
Aswell as how much would this cost.
thanks.

FREE XDA Exec on 18mth £30 contract:
http://www.mobileshop.com/mobile-phones/o2/contract-mobile-phones/xda-exec.php/PNEWO2EXEC0005
ADD 'Unlimited' (Reasonable) O2 Data for £10 per month

Internet Plan
T-Mobile has a web 'n walk tariff - unlimited download for £7.50 per month, subject to fair use. You get 3G where coverage exists, and drops to GPRS elsewhere...
Regards,

Whats this £10 a month option for resonable data from O2???

^^ This ^^

Carphone Warehouse only!
Tomtooter said:
FREE XDA Exec on 18mth £30 contract:
http://www.mobileshop.com/mobile-phones/o2/contract-mobile-phones/xda-exec.php/PNEWO2EXEC0005
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Oops!
The Carphone Warehouse sold me a O2 XDA Exec for £149.95 on a £30 400 minutes per month +£10 'Unlimited Data' contract....my contract is Bberry BIS Unlimited & O2 Customer Services have confirmed that CPW IS allowed to offer 'special terms'!
Shame is: I don't think I'm going to keep it - I simply can't get used to using he 640 X 480 screen for the Internet, even with Opera

I've just rang O2 customer services, and they say I can add the £10/month unlimited reasonable data bolt-on to my voice tariff!
It's called: BlackBerry Unlimited Monthly Roaming
I got my Exec on Pay Monthly £35/Month voice tariff for £149.99 so when I can downgrade my voice tariff on 29 January (6 months from contract start), I'll be adding this!
I don't see why they won't offer it to you guys!

r3bel said:
I've just rang O2 customer services, and they say I can add the £10/month unlimited reasonable data bolt-on to my voice tariff!
It's called: BlackBerry Unlimited Monthly Roaming
I got my Exec on Pay Monthly £35/Month voice tariff for £149.99 so when I can downgrade my voice tariff on 29 January (6 months from contract start), I'll be adding this!
I don't see why they won't offer it to you guys!
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Odd that they are offering you this as I enquired on Thursday and all O2 had were tarrifs way less competitive than the t-mobile ones. I'd have preferred 02 just for the black unit rather than the ugly silver!

Same here, plus O2 coverage is slightly better.
I had to ask specifically for that one, though; the 'offered' ones, although better than last time I checked, are still a bit pricey and not competitive with Web'n'Walk.
If you think T-Mobile's Universal is ugly, you should see the Orange one! Rock-grey with RED keyboard backlight! *shudders* Is T-Mobile's backlight pink?

T-mobile backlight is red. Aren't they all?

I use my Orange Uni (with beautiful red keyboard) with a 3G PAYG SIM in, which for £1 a day gives me unlimited use of 3G internet until midnight.
Phone 450 then follow the menus (3,1,1,1,1,1) and you will get it from when you phoned and listened for the confirmation until 00:00 that night.
Seems like a brilliant idea to me.

Mobiles4Everyone have the T-Mobile MDA Pro on a Flext 30 Web 'n Walk for £32.50 p/m with the phone costing £69.99 or
£27.50 p/m on Flext 25 Web 'n Walk witht he phone at £99.99.
http://sales.mobiles4everyone.com/display.asp?hs=mda4
The O2 Exec is £30 p/m on O2 400 tariff with the phone at £89.99 or
£35 p/m on O2 600 with the phone at £49.99.
http://sales.mobiles4everyone.com/display.asp?hs=xdaexec

DHarman said:
T-mobile backlight is red. Aren't they all?
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O2's is looooovely blue

Hi guys,
I bought my Exec in February 2006. I have the 12month contract(£19) and i also bought the 4 meg GPRS bundle(£4)
O2 however have never charged me for using any data. Whenever I go onto the online bill the amount of data usage is always 0.
£24 a month unlimited data usage + some free minutes and txts (although i'm not a crazy data sucker so probably dont use any more than 15-20 megs)
Don't suppose anyone has any ideas on why it's free? or for how long ? don't want to query it just incase

stualpha said:
Hi guys,
I bought my Exec in February 2006. I have the 12month contract(£19) and i also bought the 4 meg GPRS bundle(£4)
O2 however have never charged me for using any data. Whenever I go onto the online bill the amount of data usage is always 0.
£24 a month unlimited data usage + some free minutes and txts (although i'm not a crazy data sucker so probably dont use any more than 15-20 megs)
Don't suppose anyone has any ideas on why it's free? or for how long ? don't want to query it just incase
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I am looking for a good data plan in Canada. I really like to use Skype to make calls because its cheaper than GSM price plan. On skype you can have $15 for full year unlimited outgoing calls. I think it is $100 for 1 year for incoming calls. But i dont think i will have to worry too much about incoming calls. Anyone know any good package that will support skype calling?

it transfers a LOT of data compared to other GPRS applications. even if you get an "unlimited" deal, you'll probably exceed the fair use limit.

Tomtooter said:
Oops!
The Carphone Warehouse sold me a O2 XDA Exec for £149.95 on a £30 400 minutes per month +£10 'Unlimited Data' contract....my contract is Bberry BIS Unlimited & O2 Customer Services have confirmed that CPW IS allowed to offer 'special terms'!
Shame is: I don't think I'm going to keep it - I simply can't get used to using he 640 X 480 screen for the Internet, even with Opera
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Re web browsing with a small screen - do you guys know about the google portal for mobiles? It's a web proxy that reformats websites for small screens. The data transferred is much smaller than going direct.
save this site into your favourites and then when you want to brows just tyoe the url into the google window in the middle of this page:
http://www.google.com/gwt/n?q=
This proxy has transformed my browsing on the XDA.

evilv said:
Re web browsing with a small screen - do you guys know about the google portal for mobiles? It's a web proxy that reformats websites for small screens. The data transferred is much smaller than going direct.
save this site into your favourites and then when you want to brows just tyoe the url into the google window in the middle of this page:
http://www.google.com/gwt/n
This proxy has transformed my browsing on the XDA.
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Yeah i do that too. VGA display mode. Really awesome feature by google. There goes 1 more stock of google in my bank. Also I like oZVGA with that display mode from google ^^

O2 vs O2 Online
I've had my XDA Exec for 15 months, bought through O2 Online (i.e. the website) and I've been frustrated with envy since the Web'n'Walk tariff on T-mobile came out. Every month I ring O2 to ask if they can compete, and every month they tell me that the only unlimited tariff is the £70 all-you-can-eat tariff, designed for businesses. When I read the post about the Blackberry Unlimited bolt-on above, I was over the moon! I immediately called O2 Online customer services, only to be told that they don't support Blackberry and it's only tariffs bought via the O2 shops that offer that tariff - is that utterly infuriating or what? O2 simply don't want my money...
I'm going to wait out the remaining three months and then go to T-Mobile for one of those tastly little Varios with a slide out keyboard thingy.

Currently T-Mo are offering 25% off for life - which means you can get flext + web n walk for £20.62 a month. That's unlimited data and £34 worth of calls/texts/video calls, hard to beat.
Also if you aren't concerned about video calling give the Crossbow ROM a shot - Internet Explorer has gained a hi-res mode and looks amazing. Its as close to desktop browsing as Opera and about four hundred times faster...