Database Users

Unlock the G1-Sim Unlock

compared to touch pro it has:
+bigger screen
+compass
-hvga
-no radio
its even made made by the same people with simlar quality
and yet its $399 while the touck pro is more than $1K unlocked. is google subsidising this ferther
anybody knows how much the winmo licence costing htc

it wouldnt suprise me if htc are loosing profit in the short term.
the whole point of the g1 is for it to be cheap and available to anyone (open source). i think they're probably biting the bullet and hoping it will pick up.

G1 specs
the G1 is supposed to have a compass in it according to the HTC website, and I'm not sure... but I bet there's radio in it too. It also has the HVGA ur talkin about.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html
there's the page
compass is on the very bottom under the special features.

HTC Touch HD
OMG this thing has a 5.0 megapixel camera!
Well.... I guess I better pitch my 5.0 megapixel kodak digi camera quick lol

Who said it's unlocked? It's only being sold through T-Mobile, locked to their network, and the only way you can get it unlocked is by being a T-Mobile customer for 90 days.

arteshiftedscreen said:
OMG this thing has a 5.0 megapixel camera!
Well.... I guess I better pitch my 5.0 megapixel kodak digi camera quick lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's 3.2 not 5 although 5 would have totally rocked. I'm using a Sony Ericsson K790a phone at the moment I love the camera on this thing but it basically has a cybershot camera built into it. I wish the G1 had a flash built in.

Black93300ZX said:
Who said it's unlocked? It's only being sold through T-Mobile, locked to their network, and the only way you can get it unlocked is by being a T-Mobile customer for 90 days.[/QUOT
T-Mo isn't discouraging unlocking the phone and they said there will be an unlocked version available without contract for $399.
They also state that the phone is best used with their services. From what I have read at Engadget, I isn't compatible with AT&T 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

pseudoproto said:
T-Mo isn't discouraging unlocking the phone and they said there will be an unlocked version available without contract for $399.
They also state that the phone is best used with their services. From what I have read at Engadget, I isn't compatible with AT&T 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you mean locked but without contract = $399. Locked and with a contract = $179. But T-mobile is good about allowing you to unlock it after 90 days (of good standing)
Also, as stated the phone is only using UMTS 1700/2100 for T-mobile's AWS 3G network. Unless different specs appear later, it certainly cannot be used on AT&T's 850/1900 3G network, and may not even work on any other global 2100 3G network. But it's quad-band EDGE so you can still get EDGE speeds.

fyi
windows mobile cost money
android is free
(+bigger screen)
(-hvga)
bigger screen maybe, but lower resolution
touch pro 640 x 480
g1 480 x 320
kaiser 240 x 320
i put the kaiser in just for ref.
and tmobile gets a discount for a mass order
they also lock the phone
(this is a hardware lock, not in the software
they might be more relaxed on unlocking the phone due to android (att will unlock there phone even if you are not on there network)(tmoblie will unlock after 90 days per line)
the touch pro doesn't have network yet
and it is unlocked
if a big carrier (with a huge market) gets the touch pro the price will drop
a new HTC TyTn II is still $600
and i am talking about the TyTn II not the Tilt
there is your cost difference
btw the spec look like it will work on at&t
http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html

fhsieh said:
I think you mean locked but without contract = $399. Locked and with a contract = $179. But T-mobile is good about allowing you to unlock it after 90 days (of good standing)
Also, as stated the phone is only using UMTS 1700/2100 for T-mobile's AWS 3G network. Unless different specs appear later, it certainly cannot be used on AT&T's 850/1900 3G network, and may not even work on any other global 2100 3G network. But it's quad-band EDGE so you can still get EDGE speeds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah that's what I'm saying, you can get it for $399 without a contract, but it is NOT unlocked. You'll be able to buy a Fuze from AT&T without a contract, but you still need to get it unlocked.

so anybody knows how much does a fully unlocked phone that i can use anywhare will end up costing

FYI
I preordered my phone last week and it said on the listing:
Retail $399
On-Line Upgrade Discount $100
Total Upgrade Price $299
------------------------------
Plus in order to order this phone you must add to your rate plan a T-Mobile G1 rate plan. It's either Plan (A) $39.99 unlimited G1 internet and texting or Plan (B) Limited Internet and 400 text for $25.99 extra on top of your normal rate. It states the pre-existing rate plans will Alter to the change for the G1 service if the phone is purchased. I tried to add the phone without adding the G1 service and the website would not let me continue without (1) adding plan (A), plan (B) or (2) remove the phone from upgrade.
After ordering the phone T-Mobile's website stated that the phone would be delivered with free shipping on or by October 22nd 2008. BTW I ordered the Black with the $25.99 plan.
This is what I ordered in the USA other countries might be different.

Other countries don't have the G1 yet. UK is the next launch country (iirc) and won't get it until the end of this year or early next year.
I'm sure there will be individuals who are planning to buy the G1 from Tmo US to resell online (on ebay); whether or not they're fully unlocked will depend on the fine print. I would expect them to be around $500. But again the launch version of the G1 is 1700/2100mhz 3G, so you can't just use it "anywhere"; and by the time these launch units start becoming available unlocked, there will be other versions/models to choose from anyway.

danielbui23 said:
I preordered my phone last week and it said on the listing:
Retail $399
On-Line Upgrade Discount $100
Total Upgrade Price $299
------------------------------
Plus in order to order this phone you must add to your rate plan a T-Mobile G1 rate plan. It's either Plan (A) $39.99 unlimited G1 internet and texting or Plan (B) Limited Internet and 400 text for $25.99 extra on top of your normal rate. It states the pre-existing rate plans will Alter to the change for the G1 service if the phone is purchased. I tried to add the phone without adding the G1 service and the website would not let me continue without (1) adding plan (A), plan (B) or (2) remove the phone from upgrade.
After ordering the phone T-Mobile's website stated that the phone would be delivered with free shipping on or by October 22nd 2008. BTW I ordered the Black with the $25.99 plan.
This is what I ordered in the USA other countries might be different.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, I am editing my statement about G1 plan (B): Limited Internet and 400 text messages.
PLAN (B) is UNLIMITED INTERNET and 400 text messages allowed in or out going.

danielbui23 said:
Sorry, I am editing my statement about G1 plan (B): Limited Internet and 400 text messages.
PLAN (B) is UNLIMITED INTERNET and 400 text messages allowed in or out going.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm, I don't think I could stick to 400 texts a month... Haha oh damn, I just looked at my usage for AT&T for this month (only 2 weeks into the billing period)...
Anytime minutes: Used 113/1400
Night/Weekend: Used 1,794 of unlimited
Mobile To Mobile: Used 1,152 of unlimited
Messaging: Used 519 of unlimited
And, since I canceled my data plan, a whopping .06MB of data, woot. I know I use my phone a ton, but I can't really see anyone that texts semi-frequently using under 400... A single conversation via text can take 20 text messages, and 20 days having 1 full conversation is your 400 right there.

Well at $25 and $35, T-mobile's definitely going after the iPhone plans, which don't even include any texts in the base $30 rate, and goes up to $50 for unlimited internet/sms.
AT&T might have wider 3G coverage, but if it continues to underperform, Tmo could take the cake.
Anyway, online-presence apps (like IM) should eventually start phasing out text messaging as more and more people get internet-enabled phones; so 400 messages could conceivably cover all the messaging "when-needed", while users start adopting more interactive modes of chat -- especially once developers integrate them into popular social networking services, like Facebook et al.

And keep in mind that the IM software dings you for each message sent and received as well, with exception of Google Talk -- it's the only one of the bunch that uses the internet connection for messaging; all the rest use texting.
Who uses Google Talk? I didn't even know it existed
Black93300ZX said:
Hmm, I don't think I could stick to 400 texts a month... Haha oh damn, I just looked at my usage for AT&T for this month (only 2 weeks into the billing period)...
Anytime minutes: Used 113/1400
Night/Weekend: Used 1,794 of unlimited
Mobile To Mobile: Used 1,152 of unlimited
Messaging: Used 519 of unlimited
And, since I canceled my data plan, a whopping .06MB of data, woot. I know I use my phone a ton, but I can't really see anyone that texts semi-frequently using under 400... A single conversation via text can take 20 text messages, and 20 days having 1 full conversation is your 400 right there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

If you use Google Talk, you're not touching your text message allowance, but any of the others on the G1 count each IM sent and received just the same as a text message. My primary IM service is MSN, and I know there's a mobile web client available -- not as pretty, but a lot cheaper to use...
fhsieh said:
...Anyway, online-presence apps (like IM) should eventually start phasing out text messaging as more and more people get internet-enabled phones; so 400 messages could conceivably cover all the messaging "when-needed", while users start adopting more interactive modes of chat -- especially once developers integrate them into popular social networking services, like Facebook et al.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

benjimen said:
And keep in mind that the IM software dings you for each message sent and received as well, with exception of Google Talk -- it's the only one of the bunch that uses the internet connection for messaging; all the rest use texting.
Who uses Google Talk? I didn't even know it existed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah Phone based IM services that are preloaded on phones are going to cost just as much as Texting and run along the samelines as they run as an MMS or SMS ie. yahoo messanger, AOL messanger ect....
I use GoogleTalk and It's pretty cool. If 2 people have a Gmail.com account it will allow the 2 to talk in chat form. No Software to load its all done through a popup or popout window. Nothing fancy just realtime conversations. There is a green bubble that pops up next to the name when they are logged on to Gmail so you know if they are by the computer. It turns orange if Google talk or Gmail has been at idle for too long and turns Grey if they are signed off. Also the chats are recorded in a chat folder so if you need to reference information from a previous Chat/ Conversation you can easily access it through your designated folder.

I installed it, and it's OK -- bare bones, the 'cheap motel room' (CNET reviewer remark) of chat products. My favorite feature is how you can set 'off the record' per contact in your list. Once set, chats are >not< stored for future searching (in your Gmail or theirs), and it isn't something your 'buddy' can change.
danielbui23 said:
...also the chats are recorded in a chat folder so if you need to reference information from a previous Chat/ Conversation you can easily access it through your designated folder...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

HTC EVO 199.99 Arrives June 2 2010 Sprint confirms

Sprint sending out emails confirming HTC EVO on june 4
http://now.sprint.com/evo/?ECID=MA:EM:20100512:EVO:1BT:chkitout
May require up to a $36 activation fee/line, credit approval and deposit. Up to $200 early termination fee/line applies. Phone Offer: While supplies last. $449.99 - $150.00 (two-year activation) - $100.00 (mail-in rebate) = $199.99 (final price). Mail-in Rebate: Requires activation at the time of purchase. Line must be active 30 consecutive days. Allow 10 to 14 weeks for rebate. Upgrade: Existing customers in good standing with service on the same device for more than 22 consecutive months currently activated with a service plan of $39.99 or higher may be eligible. See in-store rebate form, sprint.com/upgrade for details. Everything Data Plan: Includes 450 Anytime Minutes. Additional Anytime Minutes (overage): Up to $0.40/minute. Nights: Monday - Thursday 7pm - 7am; Weekends: Friday 7pm - Monday 7am. Partial minutes charged as full minutes. Any Mobile, Anytime (AMA)/Unlimited Calls to Mobile: Applies when directly dialing/receiving standard voice calls between domestic wireless numbers as determined when the call is placed using independent 3rd party and Sprint data bases. Standard roaming rates/restrictions apply. Only available with select Sprint Plans and while on the Nationwide Sprint or Nextel National Networks (excludes calls to voicemail, 411, and other indirect methods). Data/Web: Premium content/downloads (games, ringers, songs, certain channels, etc.) are additional charge. Messaging: Includes text, picture and video for domestic messages sent or received. International messages are $0.20 sent or received. SMS voice messages may incur an additional data charge of $0.03/KB. Text to 3rd parties to participate in promotions or other may result in additional charges. International services are not included. GPS Navigation: GPS reliability varies by environment. Voice/Data Usage Limitation: Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 minutes or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. For other usage restrictions, including limiting throughput, see sprint.com/termsandconditions.
Other Terms: Coverage not available everywhere. Nationwide Sprint and Nextel National Networks reach over 276 and 277 million people, respectively. The 3G Sprint Mobile Broadband Network (including roaming) reaches over 273 million people. Sprint 4G available in over 30 markets and counting and on select devices. See sprint.com/4G for details. Offers and service plan features not available in all markets or retail locations or for all phones or networks. Sprint reserves the right to modify, extend or cancel offers at any time. Other restrictions apply.
See store, sprint.com or the link below for details.
© 2010 Sprint. Sprint and the logo are trademarks of Sprint. Android, Google, the Google logo and Google Search are trademarks of Google Inc. Other marks are the property of their respective owners. All rights reserved.

1) Your title date and posting date conflict - Im sure it was just a fat fingered thing.
2) Post #4 about this, but that aside, why are you in the Theme and App sub forum with this LOL.

Kcarpenter said:
1) Your title date and posting date conflict - Im sure it was just a fat fingered thing.
2) Post #4 about this, but that aside, why are you in the Theme and App sub forum with this LOL.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the weird thing is at the top it says general even though i know i was just in themes. Makes me wonder if the rumor about the search button breaking is true.

Yes it was a fat finger typo.... and this thing should of been somewhere else. Mods handled it. and post # 4 wasn't there at the time. Besides that is relatively small amount of post compared to other listings like Android 2.1 release dates .lol
On a side note sorry for the discomfort.give a man a break why dont you .lol

[Q] Wirefly Vs. T-Mobile Store

I'm looking into buying the Vibrant as my first Android device and I was comparing the pro/cons on getting it on Wirefly and from T-Mobile. So far, I can only see pros with getting the Vibrant from Wirefly so I have a few questions.
1. Is the Vibrant $99.99 instead of $199.99 because of the instant rebate or will I be charged extra later in my bill?
2. Is the $30 Unlimited Data truly unlimited, or is it capped at 5GB?
3. Should I still buy the warranty from Wirefly even though I plan to root my device?
4. I've heard that there is a way to get unlimited texts/minutes via Google Voice. If true, I have no need to get an additional text messaging and can get the minimal amount of minutes (500) available from T-Mobile. With that said, is there anything wrong with using Google Voice as my primary communication instead of T-Mobile?
5. Why are there different plans offered on Wirefly and T-Mobile?
6. Has anyone ordered their Vibrant from Wirefly and have any problems (billing, shipping, etc)?

Killer Bee said:
I'm looking into buying the Vibrant as my first Android device and I was comparing the pro/cons on getting it on Wirefly and from T-Mobile. So far, I can only see pros with getting the Vibrant from Wirefly so I have a few questions.
1. Is the Vibrant $99.99 instead of $199.99 because of the instant rebate or will I be charged extra later in my bill?
2. Is the $30 Unlimited Data truly unlimited, or is it capped at 5GB?
3. Should I still buy the warranty from Wirefly even though I plan to root my device?
4. I've heard that there is a way to get unlimited texts/minutes via Google Voice. If true, I have no need to get an additional text messaging and can get the minimal amount of minutes (500) available from T-Mobile. With that said, is there anything wrong with using Google Voice as my primary communication instead of T-Mobile?
5. Why are there different plans offered on Wirefly and T-Mobile?
6. Has anyone ordered their Vibrant from Wirefly and have any problems (billing, shipping, etc)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Vibrant is $250 with a $50 mail in rebate to bring it to $200. I am assuming (but could be wrong) that you'll be out $150 with a $50 MIR through Wirefly.
TMo's unlimited data is just that, unlimited (within reason). If you're streaming movies from somewhere they're going to say "No, it's not really unlimited". OTOH, if you're streaming movies over HSPA you have other issues than worrying about your data bill. Best confine that activity to when you're on WiFi.
You will get unlimited texting with Google Voice, but not unlimited minutes.

If you go through tmo and get in touch with their loyalty department, they will give you a good deal especially if you've been a customer for a while... Plus you get the warranty through them and the insurance through assurian...
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

tmobile has a soft cap on data at 5gb. What this means is that once you go over 5gb they throttle your data, they don't charge you more.

the unlimited calling though google voice no longer works, you can still do txt messaging for free.

I get to 10gb and I get a text saying my bandwith will be cut until next billing cycle. I have an older contract...still have Myfaves.

I just checked. My data plan is $34.99! Thats why I probally get 10gb before Tmob gets mad.

I did 7gigs last month... No prob from tmo... 5 last month...
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Not sure about Wirefly but Amazon has it for $99.99 With New Contract if you want it through someone you can trust.

Does anyone have any experience with getting phones on contract from Wirefly? What was it like.
Gr8gorilla said:
tmobile has a soft cap on data at 5gb. What this means is that once you go over 5gb they throttle your data, they don't charge you more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, so thats it. They slow down your connection eh, well thats smarter/better than charging more imo.
subnormyle said:
Not sure about Wirefly but Amazon has it for $99.99 With New Contract if you want it through someone you can trust.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is Amazon any good? I've bought other products from them, but I've never got a phone on contract through them. Any experience with them?

Go to a local frys in CA, they have it for $79.99 for new activations.

1. Wirefly requires sub-contracts that T-Mobile doesn't do. i.e. If you break contract/change plan within a set timeframe, Wirefly may charge you extra fees that T-Mobile would not (outside of the ETF). Typically it's better to go through tmo but if you don't mind the risk you MAY save some money with Wirefly/Amazon/etc.
2. The data soft cap is 10gb for everyone. The 5gb cap ONLY applies to USB data sticks. There is no surcharge for going over the 10gb.
3. Skip any warranty you have to pay for. Add insurance through tmo.
4. Only downside I can think of with depending on GV for voice/text is the reliance on data connection. If you're anywhere that has a spotty connection or roam on a different network you may be SOL.
5. Plans are the same, just worded differently.
6. I've heard of many problems with third-party dealers in general, but I'm a little biased towards the quality of corporate stores. =)

Wirefly is hit and miss. Usually to get said rebates you have to agree to certain standards and even then its hard to get the rebates. I work in a Tmo store and have had to fix issues made by wirefly. Plus like other people have said you will have to agree to a secondary contract with wirefly.

pololoy23 said:
Go to a local frys in CA, they have it for $79.99 for new activations.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Link? There is probably an after rebate your missing because thats a steal.
jayzusfk said:
1. Wirefly requires sub-contracts that T-Mobile doesn't do. i.e. If you break contract/change plan within a set timeframe, Wirefly may charge you extra fees that T-Mobile would not (outside of the ETF). Typically it's better to go through tmo but if you don't mind the risk you MAY save some money with Wirefly/Amazon/etc.
3. Skip any warranty you have to pay for. Add insurance through tmo.
5. Plans are the same, just worded differently.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. This does affect early upgrades as well?
3. How does this work, you just go to a T-Mobile store and ask for insurance on your device or do you call them and they do a mo/ charge? How much?
5. True I guess, but Wirefly/non T-Mobile sites have more flexibility. They have an option to not have unlimited texts for an additional $10 which is unfortunately built into the T-Mobile plans.

Killer Bee said:
Link? There is probably an after rebate your missing because thats a steal.
1. This does affect early upgrades as well?
3. How does this work, you just go to a T-Mobile store and ask for insurance on your device or do you call them and they do a mo/ charge? How much?
5. True I guess, but Wirefly/non T-Mobile sites have more flexibility. They have an option to not have unlimited texts for an additional $10 which is unfortunately built into the T-Mobile plans.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1- if you are not eligible for a full upgrade good luck dealing with a third party, odds are once they see that they won't even talk to you, and all third party full no contract phones are more expensive.
5- No third party dealer will ever have plans that you can not get at a t-mobile store. You can get a plan without texts anywhere. If anything you get more flexibility at a corporate store because the employees will know what they are doing in the computer and may find you a better deal.
I mean this in the nicest way - you seem to have a lot of questions, you should probably go to a corporate store and let them help you. You could easily be taken advantage of by a third party dealer.

I bought my Vibrant from Wirefly, for an extremely early upgrade(after breaking my poor Nexus that Google gave to me for free ), and have been pleased with the experience. I felt the discount was extremely fair, as I still had almost a year left on my contract, and the order went through smooth and fast. Its actually the second time I've dealt with them(Ironically, the first was another Sammy phone which lasted me nearly 2 years before getting the G1). I honestly have recommended to friends Wirefly because of my transactions with them.
As others have mentioned, there is a secondary contract that applies to you keeping a fixed rated plan with T-Mobile, meaning if you had a 1000 minute plan, and decide to drop it to 500 before Wirefly gives you a thumbs up, they will start charging your card extra. If you don't do this much, you might find it to be a fair trade-off

Killer Bee said:
Link? There is probably an after rebate your missing because thats a steal.
1. This does affect early upgrades as well?
3. How does this work, you just go to a T-Mobile store and ask for insurance on your device or do you call them and they do a mo/ charge? How much?
5. True I guess, but Wirefly/non T-Mobile sites have more flexibility. They have an option to not have unlimited texts for an additional $10 which is unfortunately built into the T-Mobile plans.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As mentioned, early upgrades are USUALLY a no-go with 3rd-party dealers.
Plan flexibility is definitely not more available in non t-mo sites. Call em up or pop into a store and you can find all sorts of options, not to mention the fact that they'll review what you actually use instead of leaving you with the guesswork.
In fact, before you even consider ordering one through wirefly, you may want to call up customer care and see if they'll help you out. They'll do a lot of nice things for loyal customers. Although even if they can't I would prefer to pay a little more and not have to hassle with a different company.

Tmo Rep here. If you already have a T-Mobile account and you are near the end of contract date, you can get excellent deals from the Loyalty Department. They have a lot of flexibility in pricing because their job is to keep you from canceling so usually they will give you really nice deals to stay.
In terms of Corp vs 3rd Party, it really depends on where you go. I've been to Best Buys where employees knew their stuff about phones and plans and I know of other corporate stores in my area where the reps don't know what they are doing.
If you are a new customer, try bringing that Wirefly price into a store and see if they will give it to you. "Technically" we aren't supposed to pricematch websites but go to the right store, they will do it for you. I pricematch stuff all of the time lol

nice to hear from rep. lol

Ok guys, thanks for answering my questions. Guess I'll just go to a store before I buy from Wirefly.

verizon prepaid on xoom 3g

I have a 3g Xoom that I never activated (just use Wifi). I'm moving next month and think it would be useful to have the xoom with me when I go to find a house and do all that other stuff that you need internet for. I think what I'll need it for is mostly just craigslist, google maps, and email.
Does anyone have any experience using their xoom with a prepaid verizon data plan, or some other plan that will not require a contract? Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: So, called both Verizon and Best Buy (that's where this Xoom was purchased). The Verizon rep didn't know what a "zoom" is and said I could sign up for a 1 or 2 year plan. She also couldn't find my MEID# in their system. The Best Buy person wanted to help but didn't get that I only want 1 or 2 months. He also suggested I set it up with AT&T. How do these people feed themselves?

Okay, go in to a Verizon store with your Xoom in hand, tell them you want a Month to Month plan, I forget there exact term for it, but they should understand. Its not pre-paided, Verizon only offers pre-paided data with smartphones (odd? I think so too) its month to month because you aren't on contract but pay a monthly bill that you can cancel at anytime without consiquence , except that there is a 15$ re-activation fee you have to pay when you turn it back on. There reason behind this is that they assign your Xoom a phone number to be able to link it to their network (odd? I know). So basically you want a month to month plan, but you must go into a verizon store to do this, try to pick a bigger one rather than a smaller local one, so the people aren't doing this for their first time. And just a note, stay in the store after its activated and get them to call customer service so they can issue you a password to sign into their website. In order to sign into their website the first time you need to use your new phone number, and have them text you an initial password. Well since Xooms aren't phones and don't receive text messages on the number Verizon assigns you, you won't get the text message and there for won't be able to get your password to sign in. If the Verizon rep calls the customer service on the phone, they can get them to issue a temporary password to sign you in on spot with your Xoom like they did for me, if you don't do it this way, and try to do it thru the website or customer service without a Verizon Rep calling for you, you will be forced to wait for them to mail you the temporary password. Which some have reported long wait times in this forum after the initial launch. And you'll want to be able to sign in to their site to be able to track your data consumption.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App

OHHHHH and I forgot the most important part!!!!!!
THEY WILL RUN A CREDIT CHECK AND POSSIBLY MAKE YOU PAY A SECURITY DEPOSIT OF UP TO 400 USD IF YOU HAVE BAD CREDIT.(odd? I know)
Even though your not signing a contract, your not signing up for pre payed, so they will run the credit check.
If your not sure just go try, my girlfriends credit isn't great but she didn't have to pay anything to put data on my xoom. They tried to charge me $400, but that's because me and my dad have the same name, and he screwed my credit over before I even turned 18.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App

Thanks Tommy!
Do you use wireless tethering with your service? Is there a restriction on tethering to a laptop? How much data do I need (it will be for email, craigslist, GPS, google chat, light web)?
I appreciate your help!

I pm'd you. I work for VZW and can hook it up easy. Plans are $20 for 1gb, $35 for 3gb, $50 for 5gb. You could probably get by on the 3gb plan and can always bump it up. The tethering is unlimited and just goes against the allowance.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

Ferradinho said:
I pm'd you. I work for VZW and can hook it up easy. Plans are $20 for 1gb, $35 for 3gb, $50 for 5gb. You could probably get by on the 3gb plan and can always bump it up. The tethering is unlimited and just goes against the allowance.
Not understanding how tethering is "unlimited" if it is charged against a plan. For example, if I had a 1gb plan, tethered and used 1.2 gb, won't I get charged for going over?
C_K
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

The prepaid plan is not available for the Xoom. After receiving my 4G upgrade, I call Verizon and was transferred 3 times while the different departments tried to figure everything out. Basically, Verizon's website shows that Tablets have a prepaid plan, but they don't specify what tablets are supported. Based on their website, all tablets are supported, but that isn't the case. They told me that 4G plans aren't supported for prepay. I was really looking forward to activating my Xoom, but I only wanted prepaid since it costs the same as the month-to-month minus any activation, overages, and reconnect fees.
I was planning on only having my service active when I needed it for work. If I choose the month-to-month plan, I will have to pay an activation fee every time I need to reactivate it. I really hope they update their website to reflect this information as I was very disappointed to learn this information over the phone. They tried to sell me a mobile hotspot, but I was not interested as I already tether my Xoom to my Sprint 4G phone.

Im on their early $20 1gb plan, that I know of I'm not on contract but I didn't want to pay the Sept bill cuz of the 4lte update so I didnt pay and thought they just cut it off till you pay for the next month but I got charged that month and a late fee.

luckie19 said:
Im on their early $20 1gb plan, that I know of I'm not on contract but I didn't want to pay the Sept bill cuz of the 4lte update so I didnt pay and thought they just cut it off till you pay for the next month but I got charged that month and a late fee.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not on Verizon, but I do know that they have an option where you can "suspend" your account for a period of time where you don't have to pay.

jm9843 said:
I'm not on Verizon, but I do know that they have an option where you can "suspend" your account for a period of time where you don't have to pay.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can suspend for up to 90 days at a time. Just need to make sure to go online or call in to re-suspend it afterwards if you want it suspended longer (technically you can do that the same day and have it suspended as long as you want).
VZW did, however, just start offering actual prepaid data on tablets literally a few days ago. Prices are $20 = 1GB, $30 = 3GB, $50 = 5GB, and $80 = 10GB and $35 activation.
IMHO the postpaid plans are a much better way to go because you can turn it on and off whenever and prorate your data usage and only have to pay an activation once. With prepaid the account will go inactive after a certain period of time and you will have to pay another activation fee to reconnect it. Only downside to postpaid is the credit check.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk

Odd, but I've been on the 5GB plan since new in May. I never use that much, so just went to the Verizon Wireless web site. I'm on a post-paid plan and was only presented with these options:
2GB for $30, 5GB for $50 and 10GB for $80. It's odd that this doesn't seem to reflect what others are seeing, so I'll go into the store at some point.

Ferradinho said:
You can suspend for up to 90 days at a time. Just need to make sure to go online or call in to re-suspend it afterwards if you want it suspended longer (technically you can do that the same day and have it suspended as long as you want).
VZW did, however, just start offering actual prepaid data on tablets literally a few days ago. Prices are $20 = 1GB, $30 = 3GB, $50 = 5GB, and $80 = 10GB and $35 activation.
IMHO the postpaid plans are a much better way to go because you can turn it on and off whenever and prorate your data usage and only have to pay an activation once. With prepaid the account will go inactive after a certain period of time and you will have to pay another activation fee to reconnect it. Only downside to postpaid is the credit check.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know that you work for Verizon and hoped that you could clear some things up about Xoom prepaid plans. You state that there is an activation fee with prepaid data on tablets, but the this page states the following under "Prepaid Mobile Broadband/Tablets":
No activation or reconnection fees, and no overage charges.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So is there or isn't there an activation fee?
Are you familiar with or know much about the new Xoom system update (HLK75F) that enables a prepaid 4g option on the Xoom? See this thread and the attached pdf.
I already applied the HLK75F update, but when I go to "Settings/Wireless & networks/Mobile Networks/Verizon data service", it takes me to a "Mobile Broadband quick access" page in the browser. The page states:
Please try again or contact us to complete your order. Sorry! We are unable to complete your order online at this time. Please try again later or contact customer service at 800-786-8419 (18079782).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is this error because I don't have a Verizon account and my Xoom isn't registered with the network? Fyi, I did have the LTE upgrade performed and my sim card is installed.
Is this something that you could assist me with? I want to have the option of using prepaid data on the Xoom without any contract, credit check, or activation fees. Thanks.

I to would like this without the pathetic credit check

Love the Turbo but...

There is so much about the Turbo that is totally better than my last phone the Galaxy Nexus, root, latest Liquid Smooth Rom. But, and it is a big but: WiFi Hotspot is something that I use often, not every day; and I no longer have it. I've had the Turbo 4 days and really like it but the more I read the more convinced I become that a Wifi hotspot app. is not likely to come out any time soon... it really sucks.

Is tethered hotspot a non option?

Is not an option right now, FoxFi has an app. that supports non-root Hotspot on many phones, just not the Turbo. I don't need root just wifi hotspot... the more I read the more I'm convinced is not around the corner... or any time soon if ever. Hope I'm wrong, really like the Turbo.

smokie11 said:
Is not an option right now, FoxFi has an app. that supports non-root Hotspot on many phones, just not the Turbo. I don't need root just wifi hotspot... the more I read the more I'm convinced is not around the corner... or any time soon if ever. Hope I'm wrong, really like the Turbo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your not wrong. Back in September, I contacted the company that makes FoxFi and asked them if they were going to update pdaNet to work with Motorola phones running Kit Kat on Verizon's network. This was before the Turbo but it relates to all Motorola phones:
Here was their reply:
At this point we do not know if a solution exists around the WiFi blockage but we will keep looking. A solution has only been found for Samsung, LG or HTC phones, just not Motorola.
You can only use bluetooth mode or USB mode.
Thanks,
June Fabrics PDA Software Support
http://www.junefabrics.com

Now you know why is bumming me out, all my previous smartphones I made informed decisions, with the Turbo it was an impulse buy. The phone exceeded my expectations but I failed to do the research into a feature that is very important to me, my wife's Note 3 has hotspot , is not a total disaster but it burns me up.

smokie11 said:
There is so much about the Turbo that is totally better than my last phone the Galaxy Nexus, root, latest Liquid Smooth Rom. But, and it is a big but: WiFi Hotspot is something that I use often, not every day; and I no longer have it. I've had the Turbo 4 days and really like it but the more I read the more convinced I become that a Wifi hotspot app. is not likely to come out any time soon... it really sucks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not gonna say that I have never used workarounds to get tethering on an unsupported data plan, but truth be told you are "stealing" from Verizon by doing so, so I can't really mark the phone down for it. That being said my fingers are crossed that root will be coming soon so that you, and even people like me with a plan that allows tethering can ditch the Verizon app for something better.

renegadeone8 said:
Not gonna say that I have never used workarounds to get tethering on an unsupported data plan, but truth be told you are "stealing" from Verizon by doing so, so I can't really mark the phone down for it. That being said my fingers are crossed that root will be coming soon so that you, and even people like me with a plan that allows tethering can ditch the Verizon app for something better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are not the only that shares the opinion that it is "stealing", I gave up unlimited data for the Turbo, so I pay for a fixed amount of data up front whether I use it or not; since the fixed amount of data is "paid" for how I use it is my business , if I exceed the prepaid amount: again I will pay more for it, the hotspot feature is part of the phone is not "created" by Verizon. All Verizon does is block a feature that comes with my phone to restrict whether I use the data that I pay for up front: on my tablet for example.... I do believe there is "stealing" going on, not by me of that I am sure.

smokie11 said:
You are not the only that shares the opinion that it is "stealing", I gave up unlimited data for the Turbo, so I pay for a fixed amount of data up front whether I use it or not; since the fixed amount of data is "paid" for how I use it is my business , if I exceed the prepaid amount: again I will pay more for it, the hotspot feature is part of the phone is not "created" by Verizon. All Verizon does is block a feature that comes with my phone to restrict whether I use the data that I pay for up front: on my tablet for example.... I do believe there is "stealing" going on, not by me of that I am sure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly. The fact that Verizon charges extra for activating the hotspot feature on tiered data plans is plain wrong, and will be made illegal when the new net neutrality laws fall in place.

I don't know why some think it is stealing when a user has an unlimited plan and they want to use tethering. I pay for an unlimited plan just like others play for a plan that is limited. It isn't stealing.

Ally Android said:
I don't know why some think it is stealing when a user has an unlimited plan and they want to use tethering. I pay for an unlimited plan just like others play for a plan that is limited. It isn't stealing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Except that contract you signed says it isn't allowed without a fee and ours doesn't
Sent from my Droid Turbo.

Coronado is dead said:
Except that contract you signed says it isn't allowed without a fee and ours doesn't
Sent from my Droid Turbo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Considering there was no option for using a smartphone as a hot spot when I signed my contract, no it doesn't.

Ally Android said:
Considering there was no option for using a smartphone as a hot spot when I signed my contract, no it doesn't.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then talk to Verizon, point it out in your contract, and have them enable it. They have contractual obligations as well.
Although if your contract is really that old I bet it had the 5gb limit before possible disconnect that my original plan did from when they atryed offering data at all. They never enforced it, but it's there. So I don't know how much benefit you'd get over a tiered plan if they decided to enforce for you tethering with something they can track.
Sent from my Droid Turbo.

Coronado is dead said:
Then talk to Verizon, point it out in your contract, and have them enable it. They have contractual obligations as well.
Although if your contract is really that old I bet it had the 5gb limit before possible disconnect that my original plan did from when they atryed offering data at all. They never enforced it, but it's there. So I don't know how much benefit you'd get over a tiered plan if they decided to enforce for you tethering with something they can track.
Sent from my Droid Turbo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't have a 5GB limit on an unlimted plan. Unlimited means unlimited, even the government agrees on this: http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/11/01/federal-government-to-att-wireless-unlimited-data.aspx

Well I am glad to see they finally cracked down on that, because for years unlimited did not really mean unlimited at all, lol.
Sent from my Droid Turbo.

Verizon start messing with the unlimited plan back in July of 2011. That is when they first started trying to charge extra for using the hot spot option. Back then it was an additional $30 a month for unlimited use of the hot spot. So you would have had to pay $30 a month for unlimited data and then another $30 a month for unlimited data using hot spot.
Have you seen their latest price structure:
1 GB $40 (Considered Light Usage)
2 GB $50 (Considered Heavy Usage) * Seriously? The Turbo can use that much doing nothing.
3 GB $60
4 GB $70
10 GB $80
15 GB $100 (Was 12 GB)
20 GB $150
30 GB $225
40 GB $300
50 GB $375
60 GB $450
80 GB $600
100 GB $750
No wonder they keep trying to get rid of us unlimited plan users. My unlimited plan is less than the 1 GB plan.

I currently have the 15gb plan, 3 lines,a 4g hotspot device, unlimited talk and text, edge plan on the turbo, ensurion, caller ID, and premium visual voicemail all for $208 a month after taxes. 15gigs seems to be enough for me but if I could I would use much more.
Sent from my XT1254

All of the new tiered data plans (the more everything plans) include tethering for no additional charge. You are on a "legacy" plan that technically no longer exists because it is from a time when not everybody and their dog had a smartphone. You have an option to change that. If there was no tethering when you got your plan then quit living in the stone age. It is perfectly legal for them to change the terms when asking you to sign a new contract. If you want to pay 200 bucks for an 800 dollar phone, you have to sign a contract it's as simple as that.
Yeah it sucks that we all lost unlimited data, but thats they way it is. Your laptop has the capability of pulling WAY more data than any smartphone in the world. There is a reason they don't want you tethering on an unlimited plan. People using it for torrenting, and netflixing on their 60 inch TV have potential to ruin the network quality for everybody else.
Like I said, I have tethered in the past too with third party apps, but you signed a contract that VERY specifically states you aren't allowed to do that, and we are using loopholes to get around it. If they catch you in the act they can do anything from blocking your workaround, to completely dropping you and not allowing you to use their network anymore. I've never heard of it happening, just saying it can. I sell VZW, AT&T, and Sprint service on a daily basis I have read every one of those contracts word for word, and third party tethering apps are very specifically prohibited which makes any other argument a moot point. You signed a paper that said you wouldn't tether without paying for that right.
It's also a straight up fact that 98% of people who got booted from unlimited plans were using less than 2GB per month anyway. It's only people like us here on XDA that are heavy users like that, and our abuse of the system is the entire reason they took away unlimited in the first place. If people hadn't been watching 100GB of netflix and pornhub every month on their smartphones then maybe it would never have become an issue. It isn't designed to replace your home internet service so stop acting like it should perform that way.

renegadeone8 said:
If you want to pay 200 bucks for an 800 dollar phone, you have to sign a contract it's as simple as that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Didn't pay $200 for my Turbo, paid full price so I didn't have to sign a new contract and be charged double for a 2GB plan ($50 a month) then I pay for my unlimited data. ($24 a month)
renegadeone8 said:
but you signed a contract that VERY specifically states you aren't allowed to do that, and we are using loopholes to get around it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not true, they didn't come up with charging for the Hot Spot feature until July of 2011. I signed my contract way before then for unlimited data. I've paid full price for my past two phones to keep it. So there is nothing in my contract that says it isn't allowed.
renegadeone8 said:
netflixing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seriously? Data is data regardless of if you are watching Netflix, YouTube, or just doing emails. The government is already going after AT&T and Verizon because "Unlimited" should mean "Unlimited". There shouldn't be any throttles on the data, blocks on the data, etc.
renegadeone8 said:
It isn't designed to replace your home internet service so stop acting like it should perform that way.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't expect it to be. I have a very good IP at my home. For me it is when I am on the road with the grandkids that I need to have my phone turned on as a hot spot so that they can use their tablets. Ever try to go on a road trip with 8 grand kids ranging in age from 6 to 12?

Ally Android said:
Didn't pay $200 for my Turbo, paid full price so I didn't have to sign a new contract and be charged double for a 2GB plan ($50 a month) then I pay for my unlimited data. ($24 a month)
Not true, they didn't come up with charging for the Hot Spot feature until July of 2011. I signed my contract way before then for unlimited data. I've paid full price for my past two phones to keep it. So there is nothing in my contract that says it isn't allowed.
Seriously? Data is data regardless of if you are watching Netflix, YouTube, or just doing emails. The government is already going after AT&T and Verizon because "Unlimited" should mean "Unlimited". There shouldn't be any throttles on the data, blocks on the data, etc.
Don't expect it to be. I have a very good IP at my home. For me it is when I am on the road with the grandkids that I need to have my phone turned on as a hot spot so that they can use their tablets. Ever try to go on a road trip with 8 grand kids ranging in age from 6 to 12?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is copy and pasted verbatim from a Verizon contract from 2009
PDA/smartphone and BlackBerry® Plans: These VZEmail plans cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect.
I was formerly a Verizon employee and now I sell phones for all 3 carriers I know wtf I'm talking about. Your plan falls under PDA/Smartphone plans, and it explicitly describes the need to have BroadbandAccess Connect to use anything that is not a NATIVE phone application. A third party tethering app is not considered native as it doesn't come pre-installed on the device.
It goes on further to say this:
Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess, BroadbandAccess, GlobalAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service automation).
You aren't even legally allowed to use it for video streaming, gaming, torrenting, or any other high bandwidth application on those old plans.

renegadeone8 said:
This is copy and pasted verbatim from a Verizon contract from 2009
PDA/smartphone and BlackBerry® Plans: These VZEmail plans cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect.
I was formerly a Verizon employee and now I sell phones for all 3 carriers I know wtf I'm talking about. Your plan falls under PDA/Smartphone plans, and it explicitly describes the need to have BroadbandAccess Connect to use anything that is not a NATIVE phone application. A third party tethering app is not considered native as it doesn't come pre-installed on the device.
It goes on further to say this:
Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess, BroadbandAccess, GlobalAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service automation).
You aren't even legally allowed to use it for video streaming, gaming, torrenting, or any other high bandwidth application on those old plans.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wifi Hotspot is a native application that Verizon BLOCKS, it is not a third party app.
This is how a Verizon contract should read: Whatever we say is legal because we say so, whatever you think: is wrong, illegal and you the customers are thieves, the only one allowed to steal is Verizon period.
There you go is that better now?