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GPS and TomTom5 Problems

I recently purchased a bluetooth GPS receiver (branded as Fusion with X70 as the name on the back - purchsed from Polstar) and TomTom5 software but cannot get the two to work together.
I have bonded the receiver and set it as COM7 and I can choose that in TomTom5 as the COM port to use but it always says "No GPS Device!"
I have also downloaded and installed the BlueTooth Tools software but this hasn't helped either.
I have an o2 XDA2 and any help with this would be much appreciated.

I think mine is set to BT on com6. You must make sure the GPS receiver has a satellite signal before you try to configure tomtom (flashing light or whatever). Keep trying different settings, that's what I did

I think I have tried all the settings I can, I am beginning to wonder if i've got the correct version of TomTom5 installed! My device information says my platform is PocketPC and that is the version of TomTom5 I installed.
I have tried various settings and soft-rebooted my phone in the meantime after each change and tried without re-setting too!
This is getting rather annoying now

sorry, I'm using com5. Have you made sure you've got a satellite connection first.
Mine is version 5.000

When I turn on my GPS receiver I get two lights flashing, one to indicate that the bluetooth is sending a signal and the other to say that the device is receiving a GPS signal.

Try this...
Hi Dave,
Did you buy this via eBay? Couple of friends have bought from the same guy and neither worked, even though it seemed that they were (flashing lights, bonded etc). Both Polstar/Fuzion.
Anyway, if it won't connect via 'other bluetooth', try selecting 'other cabled device' and then select 4800 baud and your bluetooth com port.
Don't know why, but have had to do this with 3 different PDA's so far (2 XDA, 1 ipaq). It seems to work fine, although the data rate's a bit slow.

Any bluetooth gps I have has installed as com 5 when bonding, it asks if you wish to install serial profile and allocates com 5. I have noticed however that tomtom is very weird with its gps module, it keeps saying gps not found or signal lost etc and then I have to reselect other bluetooth and com 5 and even then sometimes I have to reinitialize the receiver before it is found. I always advocate the use of a wired gps if it is only required for vehicle use, it is less problematic, easy to configure and works 99.999999% of the time without problems.

If you run BT Manager and then check settings, it generally sets up as inbound com5 outbound com 6.
I have a Navman that behaved perfectly on Com 5 on TT3, on TT5 still behaves perfectly, but now uses Com 8 instead.
No idea why, don't really care that much -- it works.

I did buy the items from eBay and I am going to get back to the supplier (Polstar I believe) to see what I can fathom out.
Many thanks for all your advice, I have tried all options but still cannot get it to work so I will post a reply with the solution that works for me and hopefully it will work for others too.

No signal
Hi
the TomTom 5 has a new implementation, from the the TT3. It can manage the bluetooth connection. When you creat the connection with your pocket pc, by serial port, you must creat one connection of paired devices, as you created to your headset, bluethoot, of course. By the way, usually tt5 uses com 6 to connect with gps receivers.
The first time you configure your connection you must stay in position to receive signal from satelites, because its important to record all information from your gps receiver.
Regards

With regards to that marcusmodestus I think tonight, I will try and remove TomTom5 and delete my connection to the receiver and try installing again, from fresh.
Should I bond my reciever before or after I install? And should I run TomTom5 only with the bond in place?

bt gps
I bought one of these
set up as other cable on com5 but set baud rate at 38400 works fine 4 me

Success!
First, thank you all for helping me with this!
I have managed to successfully set it up now and here is the process...
Install TomTom5
Bond the device (I only had the option of Serial COM 7)
In TomTom5, change the preferences to use "Other Cable" and set the baud rate to 4800.
Magically I then get 5-6 satellites, a signal and an annoying American (which I will change to a nice english lady)
Thank you all again!

after hours of trial and error with tomtom5 and buzzmobile5.0 together with a xaiox wonde-xl bluetooth gps mouse (nemerix chipset) i learned the following:
it is recommended that you disable the gps manager of buzzmobile5.0 (not doing this has caused my device hang and auto soft reset some times). after that the following procedure worked for me:
1. pair your bluetooth gps device with your xda
2. assign a free outgoing com-port to that device (what com-port is best? please read text below.)
3. go to tomtom gps settings screen choose other bluetooth gps device
4. the assigned com-port number should appear in the next tomtom screen.
usually you should be done now and the connection should work, but i always had to delete the gps device in buzzmobiles bluetooth connection manager and had to re-pair it again, re-assign the com-port and re-start tomtom in order to get it work.
for any reason i then choosed to assign com8 as com-port for my gps mouse. and from this moment on tomtom5 was able to re-establish connections after switching of and on the gps or after switching xda on and off. i don't know what the exact reason is but choosing com8 was my solution to get tomtom5 working together with my gps on a comfortable way.
hope this helps others
regards
peter

I had this problem with Tomtom 5. No matter what I did it wouldn't work with my receiver.
I found that when I downloaded the 5.1 patch and installed it it worked fine with the GPS receiver set to COM6. Usually takes about 30 secs for the receiver to be found though. I think the update sorted out the Tomtom bluetooth support to a later version.

hi ...
how can i disable the gps manager of buzzmobile5.0?
thx mtc

settings --> system --> GPS
On the access tab uncheck the box
btw : I just saw that GPS hardware port shows com5 now. I'm sure I set both hard and software port to none cause somebody adviced this.
Anyway last week I didn't have to re-pair my gps in order for tomtom to find it ( which before I had to do every time I closed tt5). I've been messing in the registry to create extra com5 ports, maybe that's what caused it.
Anyways I now only have to switch on the gps and fire up tomtom and it immediately shows my position. Hope it will last..........

Tom Tom XDA problem

Hi all,
Just go the xda through work, and even though i have got the new version of tom tom of their website (5.2) for ppc, when loaded and docked in my cradle, it cant sem to get the GPS to receive!?!?! anyone else had this problem?

I have an O2 XDA Exec and its working fine with the TomTom 5.2 software. I got some very useful info from http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=6 ..... basically a post on there advised setting up an outgoing com port to the BT GPS device (I used Com0) ... this is found under Start>Settings>Connections>Bluetooth>ComPorts (after you have paired the BT device of course).
In TomTom you then select "Other Bluetooth GPS" in the GPS options screen, select the Com port set previously, and away you go.
I hope this helps

I bought a 32-channel QStarz GPS receiver from eBay, cracking little thing it is. I had problems getting it going though initially - what I had to do was setup a pairing, which was a little tricky as TT didn't want to behave.
Basically, TT tries to establish a serial connection whenever I open it. As TT loaded, just before it went into the TT interface, It showed a dialog box with all my serial connections in - I think it might've been the device pairing screen, but I've not been able to find it again... What I did was pick the gps receiver's serial port device entry I'd previously set up, select it, check the box to tell TT to always connect to this device by default, and then hit enter - all before TT managed to load into the interface. It took me a couple of goes, and I'm sure there's an easier way to do this (I don't think I was even supposed to see this dialog screen ) but now it works perfectly. I don't have to establish the Bluetooth connection to the GPS receiver, TT does that (and it'll even turn the Bluetooth on and off if it's not already on for me). However, I did have to choose Other NMEA GPS from the device options, and then tweak my COM port settings (I found a scant piece of information regardingthe fact that it should be something like COM5 for incoming data and COM6 for outgoing data, you would do well to doublecheck the TomTom site's FAQs for this info). There's a couple of seconds lag whilst TT correctly detects the device and begins to latch onto GPS sats (it says "No Compatible GPS Device Detected!", and then changes to something like "No GPS Signal Detected"... And then starts picking up sats.
This is all with TT5.0, by the way.

This document will be very useful.. principal is the same for most GPS Receivers..
http://www.parrot.biz/ressources/CK3400_Help_Files/Imate JASJAR - TOMTOM Mobile 5 - 2.01.pdf

Not sure if you are trying to receive through a Bluetooth GPS receiver - if you are, this worked for me (first poston the page);
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...ostorder=asc&highlight=tomtom+5+gps&start=100

Thanks for your help guys, but i meat to say i am using a wired GPS the small square official Tom Tom one, hard wired in to my cradle.
I can open the software and everything, but it just says, cant find GPS, the green light flashes on my GPS, but thats all it does.
Help!

Ok, so you're using a wired receiver.. That helps to know. You should be able to choose TomTom Wired GPS or Other Wired GPS, and it should just... work. If it doesn't, choose the nearest chocie to your receiver, and go into the Advanced settings (if the option button is available) - if so, doublecheck what your COM port settings are.

Where did you buy the cradel from, I just got ripped off to the tune of £48 off ebay due to the cradle not actually passing the srl connection through, all it does is provide power for a Bluetooth GPS Receiver out of the port on the side.

I think I've heard othe rpeople saying that wired GPS receivers will not work with the Universal. Can anyone confirm this?

What you have heard is correct the mini USB on the Exec WILL NOT accept a GPS connection, you need a bluetooth device for this to work - Mike

Tony B - that sounds like the cradle i am using - jasjar or jamjar something like that!
I have put my wired GPS straight in to the side, and nothing!!
think you might have got it mate!

hi there
i am using the wired gps with mda pro tomotm car cradle
tomtom software working like i can start the tomotm and see the setting etc
now when i connect the tomtom wired gps via rj11 in cradle but i can not recieve gps signal
device says "no gps device"
please help
Regrads
Gugi

TomTom keeps 'losing' BT receiver!

Hi
I've followed these superb instructions and have got my TT5 working like a charm with my BT receiver. I have one little problem though and I'm wondering if anyone has encountered it too?
I turn on my GPS receiver then fire up tomtom. After a few seconds, I can see that BT gets turned on on my exec, then i get a message telling me that it's trying to connect to my GPS receiver - i have to select yes or no. I obviously choose yes, at which point I'm prompted for the passkey. Once that's been entered, I then get the window where I need to select the serial port service. Once I've done all this, it works fine, but it's a bit of a pain. This happens every time - why can't it remember the settings?
Any ideas?
Cheers

Why don't you configure the device by clicking Start, System, Connections then Bluetooth icon, select devices tab then 'New Partnership.
It should then remember the partnership.
Mike

I've done that. The partnership is there and TomTom seems to know which device it wants to connect to - it just asks for confirmation each time and requests the passkey / services stuff. Don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Make sure you are running the latest version.
I had this issue with 5, but 5.21 solved it.
I don't think I ever had the issue with my TomTom GPS though, only with my Socket one.

Hi. It's v5.21 that I'm using, I'm afraid.

I've always been confused why people have a problem with the Universal and GPS receivers. I simply paired my device, set up an outgoing COM port (I have two receivers, and set one to COM0 and one to COM4, which seemed to be the only free ports), and simply select those within TomTom (5 and 6).
I've never had any problems.
Cheers,
Steve.

I have the same problem with my M600 and BT GPS receiver. Every time I use Tomtom I have to delete the GPS pairing and re-pair it for Tomtom to find it. Its very annoying. I'm using the V6 Tomtom. Never had this problem with earlier versions.

I take it your config file or SD card isn't set to read only? That might prevent TomTom from saving its settings or something?
Cheers,
Steve.

Bluetooth GPS Woes

Hi,
I seem to be having a problem with GPS bluetooth related connections with my Dopod 838 Pro.
Ive paired my Globalsat BT338 receiver and setup an outgoing serial port on my Dopod, and I can use Destinator 6 and TomTom 6 fine (for the time being).
The next day/time when I try to start the GPS applications, both programs report that they cant find the GPS signal/receiver even though its been correctly configured to work previously.
I then have to enter the Bluetooth settings to change and assign another outgoing serial port and reconfigure the GPS applications to the new serial port to work.
The programs and the GPS receiver worked fine with my old iPAQ hx4700 so its not a receiver or program issue.
I'm at my wits end and would appreciate any info on solving this problem.
Thanks in advance.

Delete / unpair your GPS
Make a new pair, and when you assign an outgoing COM port, use a NON secure COM port.
(Deselect the checkbox)
This should work

Rik_053 said:
Delete / unpair your GPS
Make a new pair, and when you assign an outgoing COM port, use a NON secure COM port.
(Deselect the checkbox)
This should work
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Hi,
Ive been through this unpair / pair scenario more than a few times and Ive never used a secure com port connection.

try destinator PN 6
also make sure you pair BEFORE starting Destinator PN; I spent a whole two days before I Got this to work ... then once it worked .. the answer was actually quite logical
sorry cant remember how i did it as it was months ago when I got and paired my tytn; now I use destinator pn 6

njay22 said:
try destinator PN 6
also make sure you pair BEFORE starting Destinator PN; I spent a whole two days before I Got this to work ... then once it worked .. the answer was actually quite logical
sorry cant remember how i did it as it was months ago when I got and paired my tytn; now I use destinator pn 6
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Hi,
The pairing has been done before any program was launched.
Im trying with both destinator 6 and tomtom 6

Bluetooth GPS Woes...
Is it the Bluetooth connection you are having problems with or getting a GPS signal. I have this exact setup working fine. What I notice is that often it will take a few minutes for the BT-338 to find enough satellites to provide a GPS signal (green light flashing). The bluetooth should connect immediately regardless of whether the GPS signal is available yet. The blue light on the BT-338 should flash twice as fast as when you first turn it on to tell you that it is connected to a Bluetooth device.
I am using TomTom 6 and it will say no GPS signal or GPS signal lost XX seconds ago. Is this similar to what you are noticing?

clearwave1 said:
Is it the Bluetooth connection you are having problems with or getting a GPS signal. I have this exact setup working fine. What I notice is that often it will take a few minutes for the BT-338 to find enough satellites to provide a GPS signal (green light flashing). The bluetooth should connect immediately regardless of whether the GPS signal is available yet. The blue light on the BT-338 should flash twice as fast as when you first turn it on to tell you that it is connected to a Bluetooth device.
I am using TomTom 6 and it will say no GPS signal or GPS signal lost XX seconds ago. Is this similar to what you are noticing?
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Hi,
Both the bluetooth reciever and the software work fine and obtain a fix.
the next time the software is started it cant find the reciver and i have to unpair, repair and set a new comm port for it to work.
the gps reciver obtains a fix but the pda cant see it.

Destinator PN has an automatic reconnect tick box on the GPS Settings page. I don't know if D6 or TT have a similar thing. If so, make sure this box is ticked.
I use D PN with a Parrot CK3300 combined handsfree and GPS receiver, and after major stuffing around trying to get D PN set to the correct port initially, it has worked fine since.

Ive sorted the issue out and hopefully this will help others experiencing the same problem.
The problem was that although an outgoing serial port was setup, for some reason it was not mapped to the bluetooth device.
It just specified "COM9" instead of having the bluetooth device "BT338(COM9)" under the bluetooth COM Ports setting.
This seems to be the reason why when the device was unpaired/paired and a com port setup it worked for the time being. After the bluetooth device was disconnected the settings mapping to the device were not retained.

Rambler76,
I am looking to get a GPS unit for my Dopod 838Pro. Which of the two, Destinator or Tom Tom, do you like best?
I know where to get Destinator 6 in Sydney, where does one get Tom Tom 6?

Rambler76 said:
Hi,
the next time the software is started it cant find the reciver and i have to unpair, repair and set a new comm port for it to work.
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Can I ask, with a new com port being asssigned each time you have a problem, when you run out of ports what happens?
Are you able to regain the use of these once assigned ports ? by resetting any settings ?
Does this make any sense?
Thanks for any input ..
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killabeezz said:
Rambler76 said:
Hi,
the next time the software is started it cant find the reciver and i have to unpair, repair and set a new comm port for it to work.
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Can I ask, with a new com port being asssigned each time you have a problem, when you run out of ports what happens?
Are you able to regain the use of these once assigned ports ? by resetting any settings ?
Does this make any sense?
Thanks for any input ..
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hi,
what i mean to say is that i switch com ports.
the issue was resolved by mapping the com port to the bluetooth device.
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Yes I understand what you have done but can I ask again :-
Are you able to regain the use of these once assigned ports ? by resetting any settings ?
Thanks,,

Tom Tom Woes
Hi,
I had the same problem until recently.
To fix I did the following:
Delete pair with GPS receiver,
Create new pair with GPS receiver (put in passkey 0000)
Tick the box for Serial Port
The in Bluetooth Settings -> COM Ports tab, I clicked 'New Outgoing Port'
Selected the GPS unit, and selected Port 4 and unticked the 'Secure' checkbox
Now open TomTom, Select Change Preferences, then Show GPS Status, then Configure, then Other Bluetooth Receiver, then Select COM 4.
Now TT works as it should - turning on and off Bluetooth on Open/Close, and no problems with needing to re-pair.
Previously I had always paired the BT GPS on COM 0 with Secure ticked. This worked the first time only, and I had to re-create the same pair each time I wanted to run the app.
Hope this helps some of you.
(btw I was using TT6 when I found the solution, but I imagine it would have worked for 5 too)

dopod bluetooth problems
Guys I have the same problem with my bluetooth and my dopod. It connects then disconnects.
I have also noticed that the systems unchecks the turn on bluetooth check box and the make this device discoverable to other devices.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Guys I just read this at another forum.
"The Dopod 838 pro and WM5 have chronic problems with the bluetooth stack, which is why everyone is waiting for the new ROM to appear, which will hopefully be WM6. HTC (manufacturers of Dopod 838 pro) announced that the new ROM will fix all of the known problems"
This I learn after having a car accident (minor) in my car playing with the bluetooth and trying to get it to work. Hutchison 3g should only be selling these with a warning.
I assume there is also a problem with the JasJam as they are the same phone.

Knight__Mayor said:
Hi,
To fix I did the following:
The in Bluetooth Settings -> COM Ports tab, I clicked 'New Outgoing Port'
Selected the GPS unit, and selected Port 4 and unticked the 'Secure' checkbox
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Have to concur with Knight_Mayor. Was having trouble getting a signal/satellite fix using a Holux GPSlim236. Then I set it to COM9 with the "Secure" box unchecked. I had barely closed the window and my M3100 had a fix from inside my house! (tomtom 6 had been running in the background whilst the adjustments were being made)

dabs1 said:
Have to concur with Knight_Mayor. Was having trouble getting a signal/satellite fix using a Holux GPSlim236. Then I set it to COM9 with the "Secure" box unchecked. I had barely closed the window and my M3100 had a fix from inside my house! (tomtom 6 had been running in the background whilst the adjustments were being made)
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yeah i recon its the screwy MS bluetooth stack, im interested to hear from anyone running tomtom on hermes with the widcomm bluetooth

Tomtom And Gps
I have found that the best cure for gps woes and pocket pc is to use GPS Gate. It make a virtual com port and will always be the same. I have used it always and never have problems connecting.
G

Tomtom 6 installed, by no GPS?

I've just installed tomtom 6 on my pda and also got it all paired up with by bluetooth gps. Also opened com0 as an outgoing port. I can see in the gps status screen the little yellow and blue circle going round, but i cant seem to pick up any sattelites, have kept in the same position for over 40mins. I used the same gps unit on my old MDA III pda and it worked perfect.
Is there anything else i need to do?

You could try downloading and trying VisualGPSce or summat to test the output from the GPS BT unit, just in case it's a TT issue.
You might even have some sort of other SW on your PPC confirming the information received from your BT GPS

Have tried the above program but dont get any response from it. Not too sure what the problem could be.
Anyone else with a similar issue?

So you've switched on your bluetooth gps unit and paired the two, and you know that's all working. Except that no gps unit can see it?

I've paired up my Vario II with the GPS unit. Opened and outgoing Com port (i've tried com0 and com4). Now i start tomtom through preeference etc i select the correct com port. Now the yellow/black icon starts to move, but even after an hour of standing in one place in the open air i dont get any gps response.
And i used the same gps unit on TT5.

Connecting a non-tomtom gps to tomtom 6
1. You need to pair your bluetooth GPS to your TYTn
2. you need to connect it to a com-port (take a high port like 9)
3. start tomtom and set a non-tomtom bluetooth gps at com 9
thats it.

hmmm, i've tried the above too on com9 but no change. The gps device does work as it worked with TT5.

ump001 said:
hmmm, i've tried the above too on com9 but no change. The gps device does work as it worked with TT5.
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My be the GPS device is faulty... test with another app, test with windows mobile live search maps, is freeware http://wls.live.com/

My COM Settings
As a novice, I went through a lot of trial and error before getting my GPS to work.
My COM Ports settings now work fine:
BT GPS (COM9)
Incoming Port (COM2)
Have you set an incoming as well as an outgoing port? Maybe a silly question.

beam
try turning off beam receive all incoming beams this makes it work on xda1 this might help

Time has come said:
As a novice, I went through a lot of trial and error before getting my GPS to work.
My COM Ports settings now work fine:
BT GPS (COM9)
Incoming Port (COM2)
Have you set an incoming as well as an outgoing port? Maybe a silly question.
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You shouldn't need an incoming port.. only outgoing.. (at least on the 10 or so BT GPS unit's ive tried none have needed it)
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(Also note on the hermes you cant use COM8 reliably as it messes with the USB Modem options as they seem to use COM8 internally so stay clear of that one)
VisualGPSce doesnt seem to work properly on my hermes.. I use free.mytracking.net's client to test gps easily.. just set the right com port and hit start.. ignore the user/pass bit as thats not important.. if you have a good signal you will get a green bar and number of satellites if communications are working and a red bar and 0 satellites if they are not.

Make sure you do not have the "secure connection" box ticked in port settings, otherwise you will not connect.

Tytn has an interesting feature: To pick up a satellite signal with TomTom 6 the radio of the Tytn must be switched ON. If the radio is switched off no signal is beeing received from the bluethooth device.

Thanks
char05 said:
Tytn has an interesting feature: To pick up a satellite signal with TomTom 6 the radio of the Tytn must be switched ON. If the radio is switched off no signal is beeing received from the bluethooth device.
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Configured lots of tomtom and GPS. Paired, outgoing, no secure, etc. I Know how.
Flashed to WM6 and spent all the afternoon till I read this thread.
Almost fool!
Thanks a lot, man!!