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Trinity vs Vista

My Vista PC cant find HTC P3600 (or Qtek S200).
Had XP on the same PC, no problem.
Other USB items connects fine.
Any tips?

hpn said:
My Vista PC cant find HTC P3600 (or Qtek S200).
Had XP on the same PC, no problem.
Other USB items connects fine.
Any tips?
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That must be Vist beta???? I bet it works in the final.

This is the final Vista, it worked om RC2
HP

Sync problems in Vista
The reason for your problem is that the RTM version of Vista don't have Windows Mobile Device Center included because it was still in beta. To get the latest beta available download it from: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/devicecenter.mspx
I have no problem to sync my P3600 on Vista with the beta software.
Greetings
/Jan

In addition to sync/exchange files, which worked even without the above mentioned software, as it will see the Trinity as just another USB memory (drive letter) device, you'll need this beta software to install/add any non-cab file based programs on the Trinity.
Andy

So you guys can Sync files and outlook in Vista?
I have the Mobile Device Centre Beta 3 installed for use with my 6828 and all I get is Sync my media files.
Anyone else experienced problems with not being able to sync outlook data or being able to install programs?

Yes, I had a lot of problems getting the partnership with P3600 working. I was trying to pair it via Bluetooth, but that didn't work either. I then tried installing some Toshiba bluetooth drivers for my Dell TrueMobile BT, that installation failed but somehow Vista recovered by reinstalling its own BT-drivers and after that I got a perfect ActiveSync connection over Bluetooth.
Every now and then I get some sync errors, and most of the time these are solved by closing Outlook 2007 and then resyncing (which starts Outlook in a hidden thread). Rebooting the notebook helps also of course.

I've Vista too and my trinity was recognized automatically. The only problem is that i can't install application by Mobile Device Center because every program ask me to install Active Sync 4.2 but Vista not permit to install any release of active sync.

possible xp on shift?

speed and response on vista at shift is really slow.
any chance to install xp on it?

This is something I am interested in as well.
I am ordering a HTC shift today when it arrives I try and will make a image of the hardrive/vista and then try loading XP to see.

Just go ahead and load XP, you can always restore Vista from the hidden backup partition on the drive.
Bear in mind that HTC are unwilling to release the needed drivers for Vista, let alone XP.

XP Tablet Edition
I have already done this and it's a breeze.
However you have no functionality for touch as the drivers are not there.
But on XP you have 800MB RAM free and it's like lightening...
Let's hope we can get XP drivers for the touch screen, i can live without the snapvue and control etc and without the origami thing, but i have gone back to vista due to the lack of touch ability.
Regards
Blitz

Was the touch pad working in xp? as that might be livable. It should be possible to sort out a dual boot then we can have the three operating systems on the one device, vista, winxp and windows mobile.

dual boot
tried that by partitioning drive in two but it breaks vista,you need to install xp then vista but you can't do that either as you miss the builtin drivers for vista.
the mousepad worked fine

besides the touch screen, is there any other hardware component that does NOT work under XP? i was under the impression that lacking XP drivers, a bunch of stuff did not work.

blitzspear said:
tried that by partitioning drive in two but it breaks vista,you need to install xp then vista but you can't do that either as you miss the builtin drivers for vista.
the mousepad worked fine
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Hey blitzspear, I have managed to get XP working alongside the HTC vista oem install. First you boot into in to vista and shrink the current drive c using disk management mmc, then reboot into xp install using usb cd. After XP completes Copy bootsect.exe from the boot folder of a Windows Vista DVD and paste it into your Windows XP Windows\system32 folder. Then in XP CMD issue the following command bootsect /NT60 ALL. Ok now the only issue I have is getting all the drivers, where did you get the drivers from? I have downloaded the XP drivers for the graphics card ironically the file is called winvista_1523.exe althoughintel webpage assures that this driver covers vista xp 2k etc. but it dont work! So just wondering if you could point me in the right direction

Drivers
Sadly I didn't find them all...
Only ones are the intel VGA (which disables some of the resolutions)
A usb network and sound and the synaptics mousepad.
The rest were missing which is why i'm back on vista.
Regards
Blitz
PS - I think if we get SD / wifi / GPS / in WM6 this will do what i need it to do and then i'll keep vista when plugged in so i can have it on best performance instead of balanced mode. This may be the best compromise for many people.
But in my opinion HTC could have made this SOOOO much better if they'd put Tablet XP on it... or gave us 2GB of RAM in VISTA...

Device Manager?
Can you guys post a list of devices that were not installed correctly when in XP? I see that the touch screen doesn't work...do we have other devices that were not identified or functioning properly in the device manager?
If we can identify the devices maybe the chipset manufacturer can supply drivers, etc.

ltxda said:
Can you guys post a list of devices that were not installed correctly when in XP? I see that the touch screen doesn't work...do we have other devices that were not identified or functioning properly in the device manager?
If we can identify the devices maybe the chipset manufacturer can supply drivers, etc.
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I actually got most of the devices working (HTC ones)by searching the inf directory of the original Vista installer. However touchscreen is not identified or does not work, the SDIO Wifi card is not seen by XP at all, although BT works

[Q]Vista x64 sync problems

Hey folks,
I've got a problem syncing my Blackstone to my laptop, which runs Vista x64. The Blackstone syncs with XP perfectly though, but Vista tells me the device is not recognised. Does anyone else suffer from this or does someone have a solution?

Very easy. You have to update WMDC to 6.1.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F1-E46A-4A5F-A791-09F07AAA1914&displaylang=en

Nope. Won't work. Windows still doesn't recognize my device.

NeoS2007 said:
Hey folks,
I've got a problem syncing my Blackstone to my laptop, which runs Vista x64. The Blackstone syncs with XP perfectly though, but Vista tells me the device is not recognised. Does anyone else suffer from this or does someone have a solution?
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Hi, I have it working on Windows Vista x64. I do not remember I had to do anything to get it to work, besides downloading the Microsoft Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 Driver for Windows Vista x64. You even get the HTC touch HD picture in Mobile Device Center

david-v said:
Hi, I have it working on Windows Vista x64. I do not remember I had to do anything to get it to work, besides downloading the Microsoft Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 Driver for Windows Vista x64. You even get the HTC touch HD picture in Mobile Device Center
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Ditto, no problems with vista 64 here

*sigh* Then i'll just have to reinstall it i guess. See what happens.

Active Sync Windows Vista x64
When you connect your device it asks you for the type of connection
"active Sync" "hard disk" "internet sharing" you must select active sync then everything should be just fine ....
Actual Phones in use
HTC Thouch HD, T-mobile mda compact 2

Had that too, popped in one of the 2 black discs and installed MDC.
then it worked.

NeoS2007 said:
... Vista tells me the device is not recognised. Does anyone else suffer from this or does someone have a solution?
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Same here. Two things to try.
1. PC: reinstalled Windows Mobile Device Center (repair option);
2. Htc: uncheck advanced network in USB setting (USB aan PC).

I've tried everything in this thread. But Windows Mobile Device Center will still not recognize my HD
edit: I solved it. I had to use a different USB port. I had to plug it directly to my pc, was using a hub before.

Touch HD: Vista bluetooth driver issue

Hi,
Having my HD since a week, I am doing synchronisation with windows mobile on vista x64.
Everything is fine using the usb data cable but not using bluetooth.
The HD is recognized as I can see HTC50 but as soon vista starts, I am requested to provide a driver that I have found nowhere.
If I go in the vista device control panel, there is a bluetooth device not working properly as no driver available.
Contacted the HTC hotline, they told me they will call me back within 48 hours.
It was 5 days ago...
Anyone having the same problem or a solution?

Friend of mine with Vista64bit also had problems, and bought Bluesoleil 64bit for better profile support. You can testdrive it with 2mb limit.
http://dontknowme.at/http://www.bluesoleil.com/

Thanks Lucas but for me it is the job of HTC to have a smooth integration within an OS like vista.
If not I will sell this device and go for an iphone.

UP :-(
Hi,
Having my HD since a week, I am doing synchronisation with windows mobile on vista x64.
Everything is fine using the usb data cable but not using bluetooth.
The HD is recognized as I can see HTC50 but as soon vista starts, I am requested to provide a driver that I have found nowhere.
If I go in the vista device control panel, there is a bluetooth device not working properly as no driver available.
Contacted the HTC hotline, they told me they will call me back within 48 hours.
It was 5 days ago...
Anyone having the same problem or a solution?

feratk said:
Thanks Lucas but for me it is the job of HTC to have a smooth integration within an OS like vista.
If not I will sell this device and go for an iphone.
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The problem is probably the driver on windows vista, so switching to another phone will not help much. Besides..."smooth integration within an OS like vista" and "iphone" you have got to be joking!!!

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Please guys,
Could someone tells me he succeeds to synchronise the touch hd with a vista x64 through bluetooth?
The HTC support finally called me back asking to reinstall windows mobile 6.1 vista x64 but didn't work...

AFAIK this will not work with Vista. At least not with the Vista bluetooth stack.
I have the same problem you describe with my Wizard and my Diamond.
After switching to the Widcomm bluetooth stack I remember being able to synchronize my phones over BT.
I don't know exactly where the problem lies and if only HTC is to blame here.
I'm sorry, I can't give you a solution here.
Still, if you like to give it a try, go to
http://update.broadcom.com/BTWUpdate/downloads/btwinitialupdate.exe
Regards
K_Hismoom

I sync my Hermes with my Vista 64bit.
But I don't know wich BT-Stack is installed.
My laptop is an Asus V1S.

HTC customer support line
Dont hold your breath waiting for them to get back to you, i waited two months to get a reply email asking me to call their helpline.
Absolutely useless!!!!!!!

yeah, same problem at my side......
I'm using IBM T61p, and the update from broadcom site doesnt work......

Yesterday I have come across something interesting.
I had to hard-reset my device and afterwards it would not be recognized in Windows Mobile Device Center when connecting via USB cable. I heard the sound from the Device Manager, so Vista knew the device was connected, but it wouldn't show up in WMDC.
So I reinstalled WMDC, but still no luck.
But - and here comes - I was able to pair my HD over bluetooth with my PC and Vista installed the bluetooth drivers for the phone! I am now able to synchronize over bluetooth!
Sadly synchronizing over USB cable does not work any more.
For all of you having trouble with WMDC and bluetooth, try reinstalling WMDC 6.1, maybe this helps.
Regards
K_Hismoom

I too could never get a connection initiated from WMDC to the HD, with standard Vista Bluetooth. Pairing the the Vista desktop pc with the HD never was a problem, but Activesync. Then I tried to start the sync from the HD - and it worked.
Go the the Settings tab in TouchFlo3D, and use the first tab "Sync data" (Daten synchronisieren in German), and the HD connected itself to the WMDC, via the Hama Nano bluetooth dongle using standard Vista drivers. Give it a try!

OK, finally I got it work successfully.
The way to connect HD with PC, have to from HD to PC, can't from PC to HD.
I'm doing steps as follow:
1. set your PC's bluetooth as discoverable.
2. at HD side, search PC with bluetooth
3. after that, pair HD with PC
4. open your active sync on the HD, and select connect with bluetooth
5. after connected, everything works
Now I can explore my HD on my PC, everything is OK.

I have the same issue. I keep getting a message on my vista pc that Windows cannot install the device driver for a bluetooth peripheral.....very annoying!!

i also have this problem (vista cant find drivers). i'm trying to get the beta sideshow app workinng.
any help would be great.
thanks

Touch HD driver problem
I am having some bluetooth problems too but not exactly as you describe. I have a Touch HD and have it syncing over bluetooth with my Lenovo laptop (Vista32) and my PC (Vista64) fine. However, everytime I connet the phone, Windows tries to install drivers for it but can't find them. The drivers seem to be bluetooth related because if I go into Bluetooth Devices and click the Touch HD and search services, either nothing is listed or sometimes just "telephony". So I can't use any of my phones bluetooth profiles like internet sharing.
I have a weird feeling that it has something to do with the Touch HD Hotfixes that HTC has released recently.
Has anyone out there been able to fix the issue?????

luketoms, I have exactly the same problem as yours with my HTC Touch Pro and vista x64. This related to bluetooth driver in my point of view.
I haven't found any solution for that.
Has anyone a clue ?
Thx

I share your problem too, luketoms & gbouille. Espescially annoying, since I have connected my HD before sucessfully, with Vista locating the right drivers from Windows Update, displaying it as a HTC Touch HD T8282. Independent from WMDC.
Now, it seems my HD and laptop are no longer friends.

Does it say 'Missing bluetooth peripheral device'? If it does, right click on the device for properties. Click on update driver OR
Go to device manager, you'll see an unknown device named bluetooth peripheral device. Double click it to open its properties
Click 're-install driver' on the second tab.
Click Browse my computer for driver software' button
Click 'Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer'
There may be a list asking for device type, select 'bluetooth radios'
On the next page there will be a list of company names on the left side and a list of drivers on the right. In the company list choose 'Microsoft Corporation' ... not 'Microsoft'. Confirm selection is microsoft corporation.
On the drivers list there may be one or more driver versions for the mobile phone, select a newer version.
Click next, and ignore any warnings and keep pressing next
Then it shows successfully installed drivers

phabreel : it does indeed! Thankyou. Still, windows will not recognize the HD as a PAN compatible device when searching for it through the bluetooth wizard. And it has done just that before!

Bluetooth Peripheral Device (Other devices)

Hello.
When I plug in the HTC HD2 I got a new device in Windows 7 Ultimate - Bluetooth Peripheral Device with a yellow mark (code 28).
Windows mobile center is working.
Tested some typical actions (update drivers, uninstall, disable PAN, ...) without success.
Any idea?
Thanks.

SOLVED
Update drivers in device manager.

what make is your laptop/pc and what bluetooth stack do you have on your pc/laptop?

INFO
Sony Vaio VGX-TP3/Z (No bluetooth integrated)
External Bluetooth MSI Dongle (old)

I have exactly the same problem with my HD2 and Fujitsu Siemens Amilo with windows 7, built in bluetooth. (peripheral bluetooth device exclamation mark and error 28)
I tried the broadcom update but it wont install. I dont really know what bluetooth stack is on this laptop but I've been hunting around for a driver for a few days now but nothing seems to work.
Anyone any ideas how to get this paired succesfully?
Cheers

Try seaching ALL OF C:\ when looking for a driver
I've had the same issue, just browse for the driver yourself, and when you
can enter an location, enter c:\ and have it run for a few minutes.
For me, my comp. found the driver on my c:\ drive, even when auto-update and look for drivers on my computer failed.
Please report

Cheers. I'll give that a try tommorrow at work

Still cant get this to work.
Can anyone else help?
Cheers

Hi mates,
I had the same problem as you. But I don't think that driver is that important. But however I figured it out.
- First you have got to install the driver for your Bluetooth Device (either it's integrated or a seperate device)
- Then you go to Device Manager and double click on that yellow marked driver
- You go to Driver->Update Driver-> Browse My Computer for Driver Software-> Let me Pick From a List of Device Drivers on My Computer-> Mobile Devices->
- Then you find Microsoft Corporation and and install Windows Mobile-based Device ..... (something)
That will fix your problem...
And to activate the ActiveSync or HandFree or Stereo Sound (music playing through your PC's speakers, you go to Settings, in the righ corner Menu and then advanced. There you will have the Bluetooth Manager thingy.
You know the rest....

I have the same problem, I was following the guide above and when I chode the mobile devices there was no list of the manufacturers and the only option is to "Have a disc".
Any idea please ?

sorry misstyped - not "chode" but "chose".

lutanica said:
- Then you find Microsoft Corporation and and install Windows Mobile-based Device ..... (something)
That will fix your problem...
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I have 5 choices under Microsoft there: Windows Smartphone 2002 and 2003, Windows PocketPC 2002 and 2003, and Microsoft USB Sync. I tried PocketPC 2003 - no luck. Tried some other ones for fun, no luck. Tried HTC as manufacturer but all the drivers there are for USB Sync.
I have a Dell E6500/Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth Mini-card, Windows 7 Pro.
Anyone have any other ideas? At this point, I just want to sync via Bluetooth...

I have the same issue. Can't get bluetooth to work on Windows 7, 64 bit. I get the same options as the reply above.
Tried the bluetooth.zip file in this thread but the computer does not recognize the files.
Haven't found anything on the HTC-website either.

Gunnarson said:
I have the same issue. Can't get bluetooth to work on Windows 7, 64 bit. I get the same options as the reply above.
Tried the bluetooth.zip file in this thread but the computer does not recognize the files.
Haven't found anything on the HTC-website either.
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Here's what I found: connect via bluetooth, ignore the missing driver warnings, and start the sync from ActiveSync on the phone. This seems to work for me...

Thanks! It solved my problem.

I'm having the same problem with my HD2 on Win7 x64. I tried the solutions above but no success. Any new ideas to try? Thanks!

Sorry, forgot to subscribe to the thread.

Spizella said:
Update drivers in device manager.
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What are we meant to do with these files exactly? My computer doesn't recognise them.

I'm still having this problem too.
I've tried all suggestions including the one to select Microsoft Corporation for both the Mobile Devices and Bluetooth Radio categories. However, Microsoft Corporation is not listed as a manufacturer for either of those categories.

iphoneresister said:
Here's what I found: connect via bluetooth, ignore the missing driver warnings, and start the sync from ActiveSync on the phone. This seems to work for me...
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Dear iphoneresister - you are a genius!
Just spent 3 hours trying to connect my HD2 to my Lenovo laptop with Win 7 Ultimate.
Whyt didn't i see your solution earlier