speed and response on vista at shift is really slow.
any chance to install xp on it?
This is something I am interested in as well.
I am ordering a HTC shift today when it arrives I try and will make a image of the hardrive/vista and then try loading XP to see.
Just go ahead and load XP, you can always restore Vista from the hidden backup partition on the drive.
Bear in mind that HTC are unwilling to release the needed drivers for Vista, let alone XP.
XP Tablet Edition
I have already done this and it's a breeze.
However you have no functionality for touch as the drivers are not there.
But on XP you have 800MB RAM free and it's like lightening...
Let's hope we can get XP drivers for the touch screen, i can live without the snapvue and control etc and without the origami thing, but i have gone back to vista due to the lack of touch ability.
Regards
Blitz
Was the touch pad working in xp? as that might be livable. It should be possible to sort out a dual boot then we can have the three operating systems on the one device, vista, winxp and windows mobile.
dual boot
tried that by partitioning drive in two but it breaks vista,you need to install xp then vista but you can't do that either as you miss the builtin drivers for vista.
the mousepad worked fine
besides the touch screen, is there any other hardware component that does NOT work under XP? i was under the impression that lacking XP drivers, a bunch of stuff did not work.
blitzspear said:
tried that by partitioning drive in two but it breaks vista,you need to install xp then vista but you can't do that either as you miss the builtin drivers for vista.
the mousepad worked fine
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Hey blitzspear, I have managed to get XP working alongside the HTC vista oem install. First you boot into in to vista and shrink the current drive c using disk management mmc, then reboot into xp install using usb cd. After XP completes Copy bootsect.exe from the boot folder of a Windows Vista DVD and paste it into your Windows XP Windows\system32 folder. Then in XP CMD issue the following command bootsect /NT60 ALL. Ok now the only issue I have is getting all the drivers, where did you get the drivers from? I have downloaded the XP drivers for the graphics card ironically the file is called winvista_1523.exe althoughintel webpage assures that this driver covers vista xp 2k etc. but it dont work! So just wondering if you could point me in the right direction
Drivers
Sadly I didn't find them all...
Only ones are the intel VGA (which disables some of the resolutions)
A usb network and sound and the synaptics mousepad.
The rest were missing which is why i'm back on vista.
Regards
Blitz
PS - I think if we get SD / wifi / GPS / in WM6 this will do what i need it to do and then i'll keep vista when plugged in so i can have it on best performance instead of balanced mode. This may be the best compromise for many people.
But in my opinion HTC could have made this SOOOO much better if they'd put Tablet XP on it... or gave us 2GB of RAM in VISTA...
Device Manager?
Can you guys post a list of devices that were not installed correctly when in XP? I see that the touch screen doesn't work...do we have other devices that were not identified or functioning properly in the device manager?
If we can identify the devices maybe the chipset manufacturer can supply drivers, etc.
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Can you guys post a list of devices that were not installed correctly when in XP? I see that the touch screen doesn't work...do we have other devices that were not identified or functioning properly in the device manager?
If we can identify the devices maybe the chipset manufacturer can supply drivers, etc.
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I actually got most of the devices working (HTC ones)by searching the inf directory of the original Vista installer. However touchscreen is not identified or does not work, the SDIO Wifi card is not seen by XP at all, although BT works
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I have attached my Cingular 8525 to by computer via the USB cable. I am running Windows Vista (32-bit, official product release [not a beta or release candidate version]). I have also inserted the original Cingular CD containing the drivers for the phone. However, these drivers are for Windows XP (or other versions of Windows, but not Vista). When I connect the phone to the USB cable I get an error:
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Windows needs to install the driver software for your Generic RNDIS.
Device driver was not successfully installed.
Generic RNDIS
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I have also searched the XDA-Developers Web site for answers, but have not found any relevant answers (http://forum.xda-developers.com/ and http://xda-developers.com/). Places I have looked for answers include:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837637
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=305
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279329&highlight=vista+drivers
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_USBModem
etc. etc. etc.
Any ideas?
Thank you,
Cameron
Install Windows Mobile Device Center Beta. It's available free from microsoft. After installing that my 8525 was recognized immediately and installed the following drivers automatically:
WpdRapi.dll
WUDFRd.sys
Microsoft Windows Mobile Remote Adapter
There may be some other things it installed, but the bottom line is my 8525 is working well with Vista and everything installed automatically. My 2125 is working well, too.
EDIT: I am using Vista RTM Build 6000.
Windows Mobile Device Center Beta is also working for me (on a T-Mobile Vario II). A little buggy but does the job.
Does anyone know when the final release of Windows Mobile Device Center will appear?
WMDC Beta 3 on Vista Ultimate is one of the most useless beta from MS ever. In fact apart from a connection sound my Vista doesn't do anything when I connect my TyTN - on my XP Pro home at least I can browse my device. Here at work I can't use it at all, period.
After 1-2 months of use I have to admit this Vista is an enourmously giant piece of sh*t for hundreds of dollars - stay away of this crap at least for another 6-8 months or as long as you can.
Firstly, Vista is a great OS. You need the hardware for it (it really needs more than 1Gb of RAM to perform well) but if you have then it makes XP look like the aged operating system that it is.
And although WMDC beta 3 is not perfect, it works OK on my PC and is much nicer than ActiveSync.
Yep WMDC beta is a little buggy but that's why they call it beta. And since Vista Ultimate hasn't even been officially released any criticisms of it or reports of problems with it on your system are mute until the release date.
With that said, I'm running Ultimate on a Toshiba laptop and love it.
I am having a simular problem. i cant connect my 8525 to the pc. when i attach the usb to the computer and the device nothing happens.
under device manager when i force it, the 8525 comes up as an unknown device and when i try to install drivers for it, it says it cant find any.
aroundlsu said:
Yep WMDC beta is a little buggy but that's why they call it beta. And since Vista Ultimate hasn't even been officially released any criticisms of it or reports of problems with it on your system are mute until the release date.
With that said, I'm running Ultimate on a Toshiba laptop and love it.
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I have a multple boot machine, running, XP Pro, VISTA Ultimate RTM, Knoppix on HD (linux kernel 2.6), ofiice 2007 on both Windows. I use also Virtual PC 2007 on VISTA to have an XP Home virtual machine inside VISTA
No way to have a reliable use of mobile devices in VISTA.
Windows media player Sync is a random event, connecting and syncing is the old and well known Windows "Plug and Pray"., Virtual PC can't use USB sync, no way
On Xp Office 2007 works perfectly with Active Sync 4.2, I flashed the Hermes BIOS, and Shared my phone Internet connection.
Vista is still in a growing up stage (buggy or NO drivers at all, old Sw unstable when running on Vista, USB devices like webcams, USB phones, printers not working) . As an example I have an all-in-one HP network printer, with drivers included in VISTA Ultimate RTM release. I can print my photos only with borders, no way to print borderless!)
To solve all VISTA issues and release the full power of VISTA-Mobile Devices integration I think a common effort is needed, between mobile 0S (crossbow will be released also with this purpose) and WMDC. Remember, at the beginning they said "no need of any other SW to connect and sync VISTA to mobile devices", then... we still have WMDC in BETA
aroundlsu said:
Install Windows Mobile Device Center Beta. It's available free from microsoft. After installing that my 8525 was recognized immediately and installed the following drivers automatically:
WpdRapi.dll
WUDFRd.sys
Microsoft Windows Mobile Remote Adapter
There may be some other things it installed, but the bottom line is my 8525 is working well with Vista and everything installed automatically. My 2125 is working well, too.
EDIT: I am using Vista RTM Build 6000.
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aroundlsu,
What driver(s) show for your 8525 under Device Manager? Mine is showing as HTC USB Sync and always generates a Code 10.
TIA,
Ninja1
cninham said:
I have attached my Cingular 8525 to by computer via the USB cable. I am running Windows Vista (32-bit, official product release [not a beta or release candidate version]). I have also inserted the original Cingular CD containing the drivers for the phone. However, these drivers are for Windows XP (or other versions of Windows, but not Vista). When I connect the phone to the USB cable I get an error:
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Windows needs to install the driver software for your Generic RNDIS.
Device driver was not successfully installed.
Generic RNDIS
----- end snip -----
I have also searched the XDA-Developers Web site for answers, but have not found any relevant answers (http://forum.xda-developers.com/ and http://xda-developers.com/). Places I have looked for answers include:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837637
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=305
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279329&highlight=vista+drivers
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_USBModem
etc. etc. etc.
Any ideas?
Thank you,
Cameron
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Do you have WMDC installed? If so, Update the RNDIS driver manually. You are looking for the Microsoft Corporation "Microsoft Windows Mobile Remote Adapter" drivers. You will have to use the Show All Drivers switch when you search for it. Then a second New Hardware window will pop-up, this is the one for the Hermes. Unfortunately it is also where I am stuck. I have my 4700 syncing, but my 8525 is not properly identified/loaded.
Ninja1
Vista works fine with my 8525.. everything sync'd up by itself. I think it automatically downloaded the HTC update.
After several failed attempts of cloning VISTA from the HTC Shift's to the my Samsung 64GB Solid State Drive using Norton Ghost (the cloned drive always blue screens at boot), I've decided to do a clean VISTA install from scratch to the SSD Drive.
With only one USB Port on the Shift, I didn't have enough ports for the Bootable USB Pen w/ Ghost on it + Drive 1 + Drive 2, so I had to stick both 1.8" ZIF drivers in USB adapter enclosures and then clone from one to the other from a desktop computer with multiple USBs (using a hub on the Shift to use the 3 devices at the same time from its single USB connector didn't work either because the drives are not detected at BIOS)
To do a clean install, are the updated VISTA drivers for the Shift posted on HTC's Support Site, all the drivers I will need? I don't seem to see certain things like the SIM Modem for example. Also how do I install the Windows Mobile Application to communicate with SnapVue, etc? I have the feeling I will be missing a ton of drivers and software by the time I have the Shift with a Retail Version of Vista, not the original system restore one with all the drivers (and clutter).
Once I get the system up and running (and tweaked), I'll post some benchmarks here and a video showing boot-up and app launch times with the Samsung SSD (currently the fastest 1.8" ZIF Drive on the market). I want to custom make VISTA as streamlined as possible with the least amount of garbage to gain maximum performance on the Shift and with the lowest possible mem usage On my dsktop my clean install is less than 1.5GB!
If you'd like a detailed post of the disassembly, drive swap and re-assembly as well as final description of all the tweaks performed, services disabled, etc., I can post them here in detail as well.
Thanks for the input of the software and drivers I will need before I start the work
VeEuzUKY said:
To do a clean install, are the updated VISTA drivers for the Shift posted on HTC's Support Site, all the drivers I will need?
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Yes, they are all you need. Windows Mobile Device Centre is included with Vista, and that deals with the connection to Snapvue. The sim card is managed by Snapvue, so wiping Vista will not affect it.
Thanks for the reply Pantaloonie
Im hoping that a Vista clean install will be a fraction of the work and time I've spent trying to install XP and Ubuntu Mobile. Both of them got "almost" to fully work but some functionality was always lost no matter my tries. Since I am "slimming" down Vista to its bare minimum, I wonder if there are components I have taken out on my desktop's clean install, that I may actually need for the Shift (Windows Mobile Device Centre being one of them that immediately comes to mind)! Is it required to upgrade to Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 on the version built-in within Vista is enough? I usually stay away as much as possible of ANY upgrades what-so-ever
By the way, what are the VistaECDrv and Extension Kit USBLan Drivers for?
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By the way, what are the VistaECDrv and Extension Kit USBLan Drivers for?
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Hi,
VistaECDDrv seems to be the Embedded Controller Driver. It is the part that manages communication between the build-in stuff such as USB and SD. It also might be the part that prohibits us from using the SD-card from the Snapvue side.
The other one seems to be the driver for the LAN adaptor... I am not sure what the "Extension Kit" signifies.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
(I actually don't really know what I am talking about )
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
Are the drivers needed for the Shift's video camera built-in Vista? I cannot find any available drivers to download from HTC's support site
Yes, it works quite happily with the generic USB Camera drivers in Vista.
can you do a benchmark of your SSD from Samsung? ans post the picture?
http://www.hdtune.com/
I think about a Mtron 3018 32GB or 64GB SDD (April 2009) with 100/100MB/s
I Thnik there is no other faster 1,8" PATA SSD on market?
Hi!
Is there any news on the speed on your Shift when changing to the Samsung SSD?
I don´t know, but i´m shure, with Mtron 3018 SSD it is much faster then with SAmsung SSD.
BTW: in the mid of april Mtron release the 64GB Edition with 100/100 Read/write (maybe 300€)
Hey folks,
I've got a problem syncing my Blackstone to my laptop, which runs Vista x64. The Blackstone syncs with XP perfectly though, but Vista tells me the device is not recognised. Does anyone else suffer from this or does someone have a solution?
Very easy. You have to update WMDC to 6.1.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F1-E46A-4A5F-A791-09F07AAA1914&displaylang=en
Nope. Won't work. Windows still doesn't recognize my device.
NeoS2007 said:
Hey folks,
I've got a problem syncing my Blackstone to my laptop, which runs Vista x64. The Blackstone syncs with XP perfectly though, but Vista tells me the device is not recognised. Does anyone else suffer from this or does someone have a solution?
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Hi, I have it working on Windows Vista x64. I do not remember I had to do anything to get it to work, besides downloading the Microsoft Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 Driver for Windows Vista x64. You even get the HTC touch HD picture in Mobile Device Center
david-v said:
Hi, I have it working on Windows Vista x64. I do not remember I had to do anything to get it to work, besides downloading the Microsoft Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 Driver for Windows Vista x64. You even get the HTC touch HD picture in Mobile Device Center
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Ditto, no problems with vista 64 here
*sigh* Then i'll just have to reinstall it i guess. See what happens.
Active Sync Windows Vista x64
When you connect your device it asks you for the type of connection
"active Sync" "hard disk" "internet sharing" you must select active sync then everything should be just fine ....
Actual Phones in use
HTC Thouch HD, T-mobile mda compact 2
Had that too, popped in one of the 2 black discs and installed MDC.
then it worked.
NeoS2007 said:
... Vista tells me the device is not recognised. Does anyone else suffer from this or does someone have a solution?
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Same here. Two things to try.
1. PC: reinstalled Windows Mobile Device Center (repair option);
2. Htc: uncheck advanced network in USB setting (USB aan PC).
I've tried everything in this thread. But Windows Mobile Device Center will still not recognize my HD
edit: I solved it. I had to use a different USB port. I had to plug it directly to my pc, was using a hub before.
Anyone else having these.
It worked only once for me.
I'll plug in my Evo then windows will detect and ATB device and the it will disappear and I dont know where.
The SDCARD will show for a secord or two and then disappear. Anyone else having this issue?
Having the same issues. Will show up, then disappear. Haven't been able to figure out a fix yet.
HTC Sync Update for EVO 4G (Sprint) (2.0.35) | 06.04.2010
http://member.america.htc.com/download/Driver/HTC EVO (Sprint)/HTCSync2.0.35.exe
Please try installing the lastest version of HTC Sync which will inclue the latest drivers for Windows 7 x64.
Already have that downloaded and still getting the appear/disappear issue
Working fine here. Win 7 Ult x64. Evo is auto-detected everytime i plug in... wish i had more info and could help.
yea everything is great on my 64bit Windows 7 Ult... uninstall and reinstall the usb root hubs..?
Everything is working fine here too on my end. No issues connecting the Evo to my Windows 7 x64 system.
I can mount fine, but can't flash RUUs or get HTC sync to actually recognize the phone
With the Hero, Windows 7 x64 would always install the wrong drivers and cause the exact issues described.
Go into Device Manager, find the EVO, and click update driver. Then manually find the driver by going to the HTC Sync directory and installing the Windows 7 x64 drivers. That is what works for the Hero, and it says My HTC in device manager when installed correctly.
Mine works fine. Though it is the first day. We'll see.
ziggy682 said:
With the Hero, Windows 7 x64 would always install the wrong drivers and cause the exact issues described.
Go into Device Manager, find the EVO, and click update driver. Then manually find the driver by going to the HTC Sync directory and installing the Windows 7 x64 drivers. That is what works for the Hero, and it says My HTC in device manager when installed correctly.
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Yeah the problem with me its that the device disappears from device manager. It wont display at all. It will display briefly as some sort WPD Device and then it will disappear.
I have tried installing the latest HTC Sync software and reinstalling everysingle usb device to no avail.
When I am able to catch the wpd device I trying updating the drive but it doesnt like the HTC windows 7 x64 drivers. It says theyre not 64bit compatible.
For the people having problems...Are you plugging the device into a USB hub or is this straight into your PC/Laptop port? If it is a hub, is it a "powered" hub or one that draws it's power straight from the bus? If it is directly into the machine, what type of machine is it (HP, Dell, custom, etc.)? If it is custom build...what type of motherboard are you using (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, etc)? (I ask this because some companies implement USB slightly differently and it can cause issues in some configurations)
Secondly, if this is straight into the machine, what other devices are plugged into the same internal connection (keyboard, mouse, scanner, printer, etc.). If the USB ports are in close proximity, it's a good bet they all run off the same internal connector. If only a keyboard and mouse share the connector...what type of keyboard (logitech with LCD, etc). Some keyboard and mouse combinations are high power draws and can overload the internal hub. This would make your phone connect for an instant and disconnect (overload state), since the phohe actually starts to pull power to charge, regardless if you're using it as a disk drive or sync.
All of that info will help us to troubleshoot with you.
Thanks!
Possible fix
I was having the same problems as many of you. I'm using Win 7 64, had the latest version of HTC Sync and the thing just wasn't finding my phone. The only thing that would work was if I restarted my computer and plugged it in. It found my phone right away and loaded up the HTC Sync just fine.
Only problem is, it only works that one time after a reboot of my computer. If I wanted to re-sync again, I would have to restart my computer.
It's an ugly fix, but for those of you that haven't had any luck syncing, this may be your best bet.
Mine with W7 x64 will mount fine every time but if I try to pick internet sharing, it never works. The only thing that pops up is an 'android phone' entry with a yellow triangle exclamation point under 'other devices' in device manager. I've got htc sync installed, and in fact I can use ADB fine... but I can't get normal usb internet tethering to work at all.
yeah its weird...i took my phone to a work machine that has windows 7 32bit and it worked fine on that machine... now i plugged it into my own machine and now my machine is picking it up
Look under device manager and you will see adb device unknown. Install driver and it will change to htc device.
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/yz4rg8u3i 64bit
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/yd61xorii 32bit
I just picked up a HTC Shift X9500 for the kids to play around on (instead of messing with my laptop )
Anyway, Vista sucks obviously, so I want to install Windows XP on this thing. I got windows installed ok. Installed all the drivers. However, here is the issue I'm having. If I DO NOT install the Video drivers, the WiFi adapter works & connects. I install the video drivers & the desktop looks nice, but then the Wifi doesn't work. Just shows as "Unknown Device" in the Device MGR. I can go back into the Device MGR & uninstall the video drivers & restart the system. Then BANG...the wifi is operational again. So, I'm not sure if I got a bad wifi driver or incorrect video drivers. Does ANYONE have all the drivers for this device (Using XP that is..)
It seems to run A LOT faster using XP over Vista. I know the device is old & very outdated, but it would be cool for the kids if I can get it working. There are instructions on this forum to install XP step by step but the links are dead & I can't follow the process. Anyone help??
Hmm thats weird. I use windows 7 on it. Also alot faster than vista.
Wifi is still not working with me. But when i installed the videocard driver. None of my games would boot. So i un installed it. And i can play every game that can run on this old hardware. Seems to me the video driver isnt the best one written.
was it hard to get xp? I may try to dual boot to see wich seems faster with the games
https://translate.google.com/transl...HTC-SHIFT-tipy-triky-a-zkusenosti&prev=search
xp drivers for shift --- All Drivers ---
http://chomikuj.pl/b7rabbit/HTC+SHI...s/shift/drivers+shift+XP/HTC+Shift+XP+Drivers
mirfaisal said:
xp drivers for shift --- All Drivers ---
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it seem all of shift drivers are there. but i don't understand the language, i don't know how to download its files. please, can you upload on somewhere else? i had use drivers from acer d150 for intel vga and realtek audio, and its working for htc shift. but i don't know where to download for shift touchscreen, wifi, and finger print
akh.kurniawan said:
it seem all of shift drivers are there. but i don't understand the language, i don't know how to download its files. please, can you upload on somewhere else? i had use drivers from acer d150 for intel vga and realtek audio, and its working for htc shift. but i don't know where to download for shift touchscreen, wifi, and finger print
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I have a stash of HTC Shift files. Check your PM as I have sent you a message with a link.
mirfaisal said:
xp drivers for shift --- All Drivers ---
http://chomikuj.pl/b7rabbit/HTC+SHI...s/shift/drivers+shift+XP/HTC+Shift+XP+Drivers
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Would be nice if that was in a website without restrictive data transfer limits with no way to bypass them.
It’s 2021 … is anyone still playing with the shift? I guess my battery is completely dead or there is another problem because even plugged in it won’t come to life. Maybe my charger is t working.. any suggestions? Should I just put the shift in the trash?
Qoam said:
It’s 2021 … is anyone still playing with the shift? I guess my battery is completely dead or there is another problem because even plugged in it won’t come to life. Maybe my charger is t working.. any suggestions? Should I just put the shift in the trash?
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shift batteries are good, mine is from 2008 and still perfect
maybe your htc is fully discharged, that is normal because snapvue drink the battery when the pc is off, mine wasnt used in almost an year, it wouldnt turn on, but put it charhing and start to charge...
Ecxelent on shift is that can run without battery on external power. Both WM and PC. New phone can give to trash if battery is death.
hello! does anybody here have the xp drivers for the vista? i succesfully installed it but i'm missing the drivers, can somebody send them to me?