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Is there any news about HTC making a revamped model at all?
I'm really curious as to waiting for the Shift to really drop in prices ($1000) in this state of the economy is asking a lot but hey at least this model can still woop the Sony Vaio P-Series anytime!
I personally would like to see one in an MID form like the Gigabyte m528 or the upcoming Velocity Micro m5 and hopefully it'll use an Intel Atom Processor like the newer ones and heck throw in a Moorestown chip for the phone side! And yes please have it make calls out of the box **wishful thinking**
No Sir
nothing in their plans for 2009, the only one is the advantage not Shift
Looks like it's a one off, dead end product.
Let's admit the obvious. There will be no Shift 2.
Further developement of the Shift has been halted because it didn't sell well enough. Of course, that is traceable back to HTC themselves in poorly implementing what could have been a really good idea and brining it to the market far behind its competitors.
The bright folks here at XDA have done a better engineering job, aftermarket, on the Shift than HTC has.
Well... at least the shift can make phonecalls now!!
We "just" need BT for our headsets and acces to the SD card and then it will still be the very best device out there. Even with slow CPU and low mem
grtz,
Pfeffa-rah
I had been under the impression that the Hero had a physical keyboard. Now that I know that it doesn't, has there been any word about a new Android phone with a physical keyboard?
ATT will be releasing the lancaster in the next few months.http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/24/htc-lancaster-is-a-qwerty-slider-with-android-for-atandt/
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I had been under the impression that the Hero had a physical keyboard. Now that I know that it doesn't, has there been any word about a new Android phone with a physical keyboard?
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Samsung Bigfoot.
T-Mo needs another good HTC handset with a keyboard. The Dream is becoming old school more by the minute. I want something suitable to replace it once my contract's up, and I don't feel like hopping to AT&T. Not to mention that bordering keys on phones is bad for non-visual key identification, the Dream's separated keys help improve key identification without looking.
Well the G1 is turing into the Iphone. So I dont think it will be old school dead, just hope they keep upgrading it in a GOOD way. Adding a flash to the camera and keyboard support would be a good start... focusing on its linux backend is another, allowing for USB input devices would give it the win. Basic elements. Puddy to give it form, Duct Tape to bind it together, Caffinee to make it go. =)
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ATT will be releasing the lancaster in the next few months.http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/24/htc-lancaster-is-a-qwerty-slider-with-android-for-atandt/
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Based on the specs, it seems like a downgrade. 4 row keyboard vs 5 row, QVGA vs HVGA, fixed focus camera vs auto-focus..
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Based on the specs, it seems like a downgrade. 4 row keyboard vs 5 row, QVGA vs HVGA, fixed focus camera vs auto-focus..
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Good to know. Heh Its been debated G1 beats G2, and if G1 beats the ATT one.. so far Im thinking wise investment so far.
I do wonder about that Samsung Android tho..
Samsung is going to be releasing the I7500 Galaxy with 8GB of internal memory and a 3.2 AMOLED 16M Color screen. 5MP autofocus camera with a flash.
Motorola will be releasing some phones as well. Nothing much about them yet.
I remember reading on TmoNews a while ago that there is supposed to be a G1 v.2 late this year, I beleive it is a physical redesign to help its' looks.
Basically has anyone noticed the G1 really was built to last? I havent anything that scream "OMG I GOTTA UPGRADE TO THIS MODEL!" yet. G1 so far has outlasted iphones launch.. I mean soon as they got it, they came out with a 3g model. Something we already have.
Only thing to make G1 perfect. Add flash camera, more internal memory and hell, why not a linux-swap partition built in. =p
We definitely don't want swap. Just more RAM.
The RAM is fine. I wish they rebuilt the browser with the Native Developement Kit. That would probably solve most of the problems. Getting more PoP RAM is just not possible because MICRON has to get their lard asses and do it.
But since ARM architecture isn't their prime investment it'll be a while before we see anything.
I heard a few IRC members were doing the initial looks at hardware hacking. I don't know all the details but if anything we could definetly add flash to the camera if the genius IRC guys figure it out.
You could easily add an external flash via the serial port. It would, however, be somewhat bulky. If you build it in, then you need to butcher it. Either way, it seems perfectly pointless... its not a camera, its a phone/pda.
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The RAM is fine. I wish they rebuilt the browser with the Native Developement Kit. That would probably solve most of the problems. Getting more PoP RAM is just not possible because MICRON has to get their lard asses and do it.
But since ARM architecture isn't their prime investment it'll be a while before we see anything.
I heard a few IRC members were doing the initial looks at hardware hacking. I don't know all the details but if anything we could definetly add flash to the camera if the genius IRC guys figure it out.
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Lancaster = Serious Fail. The chip it uses does not include the ATI 3D acceleration that all the other Android Phones have.
It's like AT&T purposly wants Android to fail instead of releasing a real device.
Maybe Hero.
Rogers Dream on AT&T 3G is great.
-James
The 256MB ROM / 192MB RAM of the G1 is inadequate.
If they bumped it up to at least the 512MB ROM / 288MB RAM of the Canadian Magic and the Hero, bumped the camera to 5MP w/ a flash, and added a slightly larger battery, the G1 would be good for another couple of years. Just about everything else can be addressed in software.
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Lancaster = Serious Fail. The chip it uses does not include the ATI 3D acceleration that all the other Android Phones have.
It's like AT&T purposly wants Android to fail instead of releasing a real device.
Maybe Hero.
Rogers Dream on AT&T 3G is great.
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no sh!t they want it to fail, why would they want to sell something that will take away from there [email protected] 3gsucks? I haven't seen any ads for anything but that on att
ITs just the battery that should be improved in G1, everything else will do for now...
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ITs just the battery that should be improved in G1, everything else will do for now...
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its best to invest in a bigger battery. I would but I cannot find any in NYC
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Basically has anyone noticed the G1 really was built to last? I havent anything that scream "OMG I GOTTA UPGRADE TO THIS MODEL!" yet. G1 so far has outlasted iphones launch.. I mean soon as they got it, they came out with a 3g model. Something we already have.
Only thing to make G1 perfect. Add flash camera, more internal memory and hell, why not a linux-swap partition built in. =p
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faster processor and larger internal memory would be good then we could run the hero roms more efficiently lol.
I would believe ATT and Apple BOTH want it to fail.. afterall that market is about iphones. So ever other GSM is countering iphone with a better android. And isnt he soooo cute. ^^
The g1 is perfect for me but it lacks processing power! HTC needs to wake up and give us a g1 with a hemi! It looks like every new android phone coming out is really a downgrade. I love having a physical keyboard! My friend got a new iphone 3gs and it runs circles around my phone when flying through apps like Google maps and its because the Iphone has a nice processor.
Would be cool if 1000's of us got together and massed emailed HTC until they met our demands
The mytouch is a hemi-G1, since hemi means half or less than a whole.
Mobiles tend to be about, what, 8-10 years behind the desktop, so the HTC Orangutan in Q4 2019 should be able to play Crysis on it's 4" sub-3D infipixel™ display.
Just wait for the sholes because HTC isn't gonna give you **** anytime soon. Motorola is looking like the best bet for Android in the near future. HTC dont listen to there customers just look at allll the driver issues with older winmo phones.
Also your friends iphone is faster because a) it only runs one process at a time b) safari is basically the best mobile browser out c) apple has complete control over it, they make the product, the os, and control the software.
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The g1 is perfect for me but it lacks processing power! HTC needs to wake up and give us a g1 with a hemi! It looks like every new android phone coming out is really a downgrade. I mean It has a better processor buts that it. Everything else is a downgrade. I love having a physical keyboard! My friend got a new iphone 3gs and it runs circles around my phone when flying through apps like Google maps and its because the Iphone has a nice processor.
Would be cool if 1000's of us got together and massed emailed HTC until they met our demands
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What are you talking about?
All 3 android phones currently available (Dream, Magic and Hero) all use the same processor...The Rogers (32A) Magic and Hero both have 288mb of RAM compared to the Dream and 32B Magic's 192mb. AFAIK the 3G S has 256mb of RAM and a ~600mhz processor.
I perfer the slow lane people, just cruising and relaxing making sure everyone sees me looking good in the hood
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I perfer the slow lane people, just cruising and relaxing making sure everyone sees me looking good in the hood
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Yessir I'm the tru definition of S.L.A.B. Slow loud and bangin. And no one does it better than me.
Remember supreme in the hood, u blast the country, in the country you blast rap, just so you get extra attention
Adrian, you just getting done school?
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Remember supreme in the hood, u blast the country, in the country you blast rap, just so you get extra attention
Adrian, you just getting done school?
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Country never gets any rotation. I really can't play my ****, I'm not tryna brag but **** is to loud. I got arrested bout 4 years ago for my music. It didn't help I was blowed and wasn't coperating either. And my homeboy had some more good and a pistol in the car either. I'm gonna send you some links of my ****. I take my car to shows.
Damn po po, gotta ruin all the fun
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What are you talking about?
All 3 android phones currently available (Dream, Magic and Hero) all use the same processor...The Rogers (32A) Magic and Hero both have 288mb of RAM compared to the Dream and 32B Magic's 192mb. AFAIK the 3G S has 256mb of RAM and a ~600mhz processor.
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Ah. I see for some reason I was under the impression the g1 was slower. Also, there not all the same processors. Same speed sure but the hero is little bit different.
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Also your friends iphone is faster because a) it only runs one process at a time b) safari is basically the best mobile browser out c) apple has complete control over it, they make the product, the os, and control the software.
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I agree with you. The safari browser over all is best. But not the fastest . My opera mini smoked safari. My friend used 3g and wifi. I used 3g and won both times. He even used mobile view while i used desktop view.
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Ah. I see for some reason I was under the impression the g1 was slower. Also, there not all the same processors. Same speed sure but the hero is little bit different.
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They all use the same MSM7201A CPU running at 528 Mhz. HTC uses this CPU in a lot of their products include the Dream, Magic, Hero, MDA, Touch, Touch Pro, Touch Diamond,...
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Yeah Im convinced they got it off the truck or something.
Im not liking any concepts or iterations of Android devices either.
I would love the g1 "style" to stay put. KB/Style of slideout/Trackball comb is best Ive ever had on a phone.
Bigger screen/vga/faster processor etc is what needs changing on future android/G# devices.
Hemi is short for hemispherical (sp?) Referring to the design of the combustion chambers. Hemi DOES NOT mean half or not whole. A simple google search would of prevented you from talking without knowing. Thanks for playing.
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They all use the same MSM7201A CPU running at 528 Mhz. HTC uses this CPU in a lot of their products include the Dream, Magic, Hero, MDA, Touch, Touch Pro, Touch Diamond,...
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Engadget compared all the devices. The Hero phones processor is a bit different. The end numbers on msm7201a is different. Engadget may have made a mistake not sure. I came across this earlier in a thread here on XDA.
Edit: ok I checked HTC Web site and the Hero processor is MSM7200A
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Hemi is short for hemispherical (sp?) Referring to the design of the combustion chambers. Hemi DOES NOT mean half or not whole. A simple google search would of prevented you from talking without knowing. Thanks for playing.
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Well done, you have shown your ignorance, hemi is a Greek derived prefix for half, also usable meaning partial. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Hemi-
If you actually needed to google "hemi" and didn't realise that hemisphere was a compound word then I feel for you and everyone else that attended your school.
Of course I knew what the OP was referring to, but was taking the piss.
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Well done, you have shown your ignorance, hemi is a Greek derived prefix for half, also usable meaning partial. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Hemi-
If you actually needed to google "hemi" and didn't realise that hemisphere was a compound word then I feel for you and everyone else that attended your school.
Of course I knew what the OP was referring to, but was taking the piss.
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OWNED hahahaha
Nice adam, you ripped em up
I need to get a copy of photoshop and make us some sig graphics. The Wrecking Crew or Team Hijack. what you think?
wht r da disadvantages of x10 having only 384MB ram?
if u compare to htc and samsung galaxy S..da ram in x10 is less. will it affect anything in performance or any limit in receiving updates?
sorry for asking a dumb Q but im curious to know..
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wht r da disadvantages of x10 having only 384MB ram?
if u compare to htc and samsung galaxy S..da ram in x10 is less. will it affect anything in performance or any limit in receiving updates?
sorry for asking a dumb Q but im curious to know..
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there is always ram reserved for the OS. so the performance shouldnt be slower. just see DROD motorolla. its 256 and its super fast.
also. always use programs like task managers, it free rams for you. as soon as you leave an application, it closes and free ram
besides. how does it everyone say its 384 ? when i downloaded programs from the market place on my x10. it told me the free ram is just a lil above 256 " 270 was it ? " or something like that.
from my understanding, the x10 has 384mb of ram. however, android 1.6 can only access about 256mb of ram.
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from my understanding, the x10 has 384mb of ram. however, android 1.6 can only access about 256mb of ram.
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it probably make sense but thats weird. the 1.6 can only access 256....... f$$k you sony seriously :/ . what a waste. super device with amazing colors but we can only get 65k out of it only. and now out of 380 ram we can only get 256....
Do you really need to swear ?
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from my understanding, the x10 has 384mb of ram. however, android 1.6 can only access about 256mb of ram.
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That is an interesting point. Sounds logical, but may I ask where you came across this little nugget of information?
Also, obviously like everyone else, I want more, more, and more. But I would really like to start on the X10 with the Android 2.3. As for the speed, sure I can see it, but how much of the slight lags here and there wouldn't be improved with a better OS version? Probably quite a few. Though I really do NOT understand how SE can propose an update so far down the line and than not provide their loyal customers with the latest version. I find having to wait nearly a year for the 2.2 a bit insulting. Than to not even offer more open and honest communications with x10 owners about OS revisions, plus patching it up like a mummy to make current owners feel even more like they have to buy the next model, well, doesn't anyone at SE think that they might be taking their greed a bit too far and, their customer base a bit for granted?
I've purchased the P900a, P910i, and the X1. I never waited before, and have always bought the phone right out of the gate. I understand that SE always release their phones with slight issues, but this is getting insulting. I have been using the X10 for a couple of weeks now. I think the world of this phone, but it should not have even been released with the 1.6. Even if that means waiting, that is what makes for good customer service. Now I have not yet decided to purchase the X10, even though my provider will give it too me for free. In fact, I have decided to wait from now on before I buy any SE. I am just a bit tired of being taken for granted. The P900 to the P910 left a slight bad taste in my mouth. I had to problem solve the X1 on my own, voiding my warranty, and auto updates. Now here SE are again pulling the same s**t they have on every other flag ship model. Do they really think their new update methods and promises of continued support fix the real issues?
So back to the question. Speed, this phone and this company have much bigger issues than speed.
This is a message to any SE reps that may actually follow what their customers are saying. I am going to buy the next SE flag ship device as long as it has 2.3. and doesn't have a bunch of problems. But I am telling you right now the next time you release a device that is not ready, hoping to get even more customers midterm by offering the same phone with more, I am done. Reward those that wait, and punishing those of us who have supported you. Keep it up and I am gone!
It really depends on how you look at it.
Android OS 1.6 is the limiting factor for the 256MB limit. So, Sony Ericsson actually did us a favor by giving us more than the shipping product could use because they planned to update it.
As we all know, the UXP update is coming with 2.1 (for now) which will take advantage of the extra memory in addition to taking advantage of the 16 million color screen. Also, the new OS is faster and has a lower memory footprint so we should still have a great performing device.
Newer high-end models coming out now have 512MB of memory which is only 33% more.
EDIT: If you check out the Android 2.2 SDK documentation, it shows they added support for > 256MB. So, it looks like not even 2.1 has it unless companies are patching the kernel directly.
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newer models.. u mean newer Ver of X10 ? or phones like nexus/desire ?
as for x10 being really 384 vs 512, its no big deal really. no one will notice the difference.
much like how Desire has more ram than nexus
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It really depends on how you look at it.
Android OS 1.6 is the limiting factor for the 256MB limit. So, Sony Ericsson actually did us a favor by giving us more than the shipping product could use because they planned to update it.
As we all know, the UXP update is coming with 2.1 (for now) which will take advantage of the extra memory in addition to taking advantage of the 16 million color screen. Also, the new OS is faster and has a lower memory footprint so we should still have a great performing device.
Newer high-end models coming out now have 512MB of memory which is only 33% more.
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512mb sounds delicious! "only 33% more" is massive. Imagine if airplanes traveled 33% faster, what that would do to air travel.
Android 2.1 and 2.2 are already so yesterday, what a joke that they are even considering updating to either. I doubt very seriously the X10 will get the 2.3 or higher version before the next flag ship device is released. Other wise what will they have to sell next year? It is a timing game designed to make more money. And, I truly believe that SE would be so much more successful if they stopped this business practice.
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512mb sounds delicious! "only 33% more" is massive. Imagine if airplanes traveled 33% faster, what that would do to air travel.
Android 2.1 and 2.2 are already so yesterday, what a joke that they are even considering updating to either. I doubt very seriously the X10 will get the 2.3 or higher version before the next flag ship device is released. Other wise what will they have to sell next year? It is a timing game designed to make more money. And, I truly believe that SE would be so much more successful if they stopped this business practice.
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yes but not even 2.2 takes the fall ram usage of the device :/
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yes but not even 2.2 takes the fall ram usage of the device :/
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I am not as concerned about the 512mb as I am about the 2.3. What is the point of having the latest and great hardware if it is being limited by the software. And, waiting nearly a year for a software revision that will still be behind other devices with lesser hardware make you wonder what is going on. And, since SE is being so tight lipped about the whole thing just adds insult to injury.
The 2.3 is a massive improvement from earlier releases. So right now who really cares if it gets updated to 2.1 ro 2.2. Both are a complete waste of time for those of us justifying buying any manufacturers flag ship devices. If this device does not get the 2.3 or better I would not waste my money on it.
The question is will I wait until November to find out that it wont be the 2.3 or do I just buy HTC or something else now? Do I take a lesser device that is at least being optimized to it's potential with the latest software? Based on SE's past models I think we can all assume that November will not be the 2.3
This is not the modus operandi of SE.
It is almost like SE is selling their devices spec sheet, and who cares about the rest. SE might be the only company on earth where the limits on their devices are not hardware related, but are software related. What a stupid business model.
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I am not as concerned about the 512mb as I am about the 2.3. What is the point of having the latest and great hardware if it is being limited by the software. And, waiting nearly a year for a software revision that will still be behind other devices with lesser hardware make you wonder what is going on. And, since SE is being so tight lipped about the whole thing just adds insult to injury.
The 2.3 is a massive improvement from earlier releases. So right now who really cares if it gets updated to 2.1 ro 2.2. Both are a complete waste of time for those of us justifying buying any manufacturers flag ship devices. If this device does not get the 2.3 or better I would not waste my money on it.
The question is will I wait until November to find out that it wont be the 2.3 or do I just buy HTC or something else now? Do I take a lesser device that is at least being optimized to it's potential with the latest software? Based on SE's past models I think we can all assume that November will not be the 2.3
This is not the modus operandi of SE.
It is almost like SE is selling their devices spec sheet, and who cares about the rest. SE might be the only company on earth where the limits on their devices are not hardware related, but are software related. What a stupid business model.
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man.. we are fighting to get 2.2 and ur thinking of 2.3 which probably didnt start development yet ?
lol @ this. i guess u will never buy a phone.
It really depends on how you look at it.
Android OS 1.6 is the limiting factor for the 256MB limit. So, Sony Ericsson actually did us a favor by g
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512mb sounds delicious! "only 33% more" is massive. Imagine if airplanes traveled 33% faster, what that would do to air travel.
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In this comparing it would more correct let the airplane carry 33% more passengers rather then making it faster.
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In this comparing it would more correct let the airplane carry 33% more passengers rather then making it faster.
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or maybe better making air travel 33% cheaper
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I am not as concerned about the 512mb as I am about the 2.3. What is the point of having the latest and great hardware if it is being limited by the software. And, waiting nearly a year for a software revision that will still be behind other devices with lesser hardware make you wonder what is going on. And, since SE is being so tight lipped about the whole thing just adds insult to injury.
The 2.3 is a massive improvement from earlier releases. So right now who really cares if it gets updated to 2.1 ro 2.2. Both are a complete waste of time for those of us justifying buying any manufacturers flag ship devices. If this device does not get the 2.3 or better I would not waste my money on it.
The question is will I wait until November to find out that it wont be the 2.3 or do I just buy HTC or something else now? Do I take a lesser device that is at least being optimized to it's potential with the latest software? Based on SE's past models I think we can all assume that November will not be the 2.3
This is not the modus operandi of SE.
It is almost like SE is selling their devices spec sheet, and who cares about the rest. SE might be the only company on earth where the limits on their devices are not hardware related, but are software related. What a stupid business model.
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Go buy an HTC PLEASE!
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That sounds good too
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man.. we are fighting to get 2.2 and ur thinking of 2.3 which probably didnt start development yet ?
lol @ this. i guess u will never buy a phone.
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Sure I will. One with 2.3
a question for everyone thinking about the version numbers......
what company has upgraded their OS right after google has released it??????
even motorola with vanilla OS phones(droid and milestone) couldnt do it till many months....
sure SE is little lagging but nothing to blame SE here .... thats how its working everywhere......
By the way the 2.3 is well into the development phase. It is scheduled to be released in Q4 which is exactly the same time the X10 is scheduled to be updated. How many phones do you think will carry the new 2.3 before years end?
A half of a year more is not that long. I will wait and see what the market has to offer come than. I only get one free phone per year and I wouldn't want to waste it on a device that is offering last years software.
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Well it terms of moving bits wouldn't moving 33% more be the same as 33% faster?
I have seen threads like this in other areas of XDA.
I figured it would be good to have one, all purpose, off topic thread.
Hopefully this will keep conversations that are not directly A7 related from being immediately locked.
Keep it clean, no post whoring for post count, etc.
Mr Clown. Possibly sticky this?
Ok ill start this off has anyone seen the news that nivida will not be supporting harmony past froyo? What does that mean for the a7 a10?
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I haven't heard of that in the news? Like to know more about this myself.
Heard that around here a few times, and around tech sites a few times. Nvidia seems to be difficult to get any answers out of too. There were people asking about it on their forums and it didnt seem that anyone was getting any answers as to why.
That's the kind of treatment I would expect from eLocity/compal but not from nvidia
Do you think this is due to drivers issues,
Ok new off topic just want to say congrates to dexter seem hes due to be a dad.
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No, I think it was just a bad management decision on nvidia's part. I can understand that they want their guys working on the new upcoming stuff, but abandoning not only the companies that used the last generation components in their products, but the users that purchased the devices not knowing that nvidia had something like this up their sleeve ... it's pretty BS. I don't see why they can't leave a small team working with the harmony boards. I am sure they have teams on the payroll that are working on projects that are useless in comparison.
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Ok new off topic just want to say congrates to dexter seem hes due to be a dad.
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Congrats Dexter!!!
Yes, heartfelt congratulations to Dexter, who has shown such patience and good humor to so many of us in this forum.
I was just thinking about how much computing power I'm holding in my hand with this crazy almost orphan eLocity A7...when compared to my first computer bought in 1991--a tank of a 486 33mhz mail-order ZEOS with a grand total of 8 MB of RAM and a 256 MB hard drive (but it had a math co-processor!) it's hard to comprehend how far we've come. That damn thing was the fastest computer around when new and cost 3 grand(!) and I had to install a CDR drive, a sound card and I can't even remember what else. I was a wiz with config.sys and autoexec.bat and made that beast last me for 7 years by crunching the hard drive beyond all comprehension. I actually ended up giving it away to someone in 1998, who went on to use it a couple more years after that.
So when we ***** and moan about the lack of true multi-touch, sd card issues, etc...just remember where we've come from and thank Dr. Moore.
lol, my first machine was a IBM PC XT
A whopping 4.77 MHz of pure 8088 processor (pre-286) power.
UPGRADED to 256k of memory.
UPGRADED to a 20 MB hard drive.
ran the electric bill up higher than leaving the microwave on for days at a time
Hey, at least it had a hard drive! Remember when all they had were two huge floppy disk drives...if you were lucky!
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lol, my first machine was a IBM PC XT
A whopping 4.77 MHz of pure 8088 processor (pre-286) power.
UPGRADED to 256k of memory.
UPGRADED to a 20 MB hard drive.
ran the electric bill up higher than leaving the microwave on for days at a time
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Mine was a 386 cant remember the other spec, windows 3.1 damn I spent almost $800 and it was a used computer, my brother had me on his prodigy account back then, windows 95 with graphic was a pleasure to see. And my first Pentium was a 70....
There was a point when disk drives were lucky too
At one point I had a Atari computer with a cassette tape drive super low tech.
Edit: have you ever seen a 8 inch floopy? Now those things were hilarious.
tumpy said:
Mine was a 386 cant remember the other spec, windows 3.1 damn I spent almost $800 and it was a used computer, my brother had me on his prodigy account back then, windows 95 with graphic was a pleasure to see. And my first Pentium was a 70....
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I remember when Prodigy was the balls lol.
there was a key stroke easter egg in the windows 95 version that brought up a picture of their developers.
Do you remember Windows 2.0? I thought I was king of the world when I got to upgrade to 3.1
Nvidia news!!!
nthknd said:
Ok ill start this off has anyone seen the news that nivida will not be supporting harmony past froyo? What does that mean for the a7 a10?
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Poradicus said:
I haven't heard of that in the news? Like to know more about this myself.
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netstat_EVO said:
Heard that around here a few times, and around tech sites a few times. Nvidia seems to be difficult to get any answers out of too. There were people asking about it on their forums and it didnt seem that anyone was getting any answers as to why.
That's the kind of treatment I would expect from eLocity/compal but not from nvidia
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acid123 said:
Do you think this is due to drivers issues,
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netstat_EVO said:
No, I think it was just a bad management decision on nvidia's part. I can understand that they want their guys working on the new upcoming stuff, but abandoning not only the companies that used the last generation components in their products, but the users that purchased the devices not knowing that nvidia had something like this up their sleeve ... it's pretty BS. I don't see why they can't leave a small team working with the harmony boards. I am sure they have teams on the payroll that are working on projects that are useless in comparison.
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Well it seems that we were all proved wrong after yesterday.
I just read this http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/04/13/nvidia-support-older-tegra-2-tablets-all/ and it seems that nvidia will actually be continuing with support for the harmony boards. They are also saying that they want to help the open source ROM community, but in the same breath saying that they will not provide support, 3rd party drivers, or honeycomb source... So what else do they have to offer???
netstat_EVO said:
Well it seems that we were all proved wrong after yesterday.
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If they did stop, Intel with their Z brand and soon to be AMD would own the market, when Asus come out I will go with them, been buying Asus motherboard for over twenty add years love they brand, have a Eee PC and will most likely get their tablet. I still think Intel would come out ontop when Asus start to flood the tablet market..just like they netbook did..
Commodore 64 on an old 13 inch anchor crt w the twist knobs and uhf/vhf selector. nyah. make me feel old.
theres a good 4 sdks and other device roms to dig around for our ol devices ya know..
and the chipset manufacter may appreciate your end purchases in their total sales to manufacturers, they arent there to support you. theyre there to support the manufacturers embedding their chipsets. they dont have to give you answers, support or care.
..last gossip said we should see a kernel source release in a week from elocity. yeah, i'll believe it when i see it. 2 months is a pretty fair wait time from last software release tho.
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netstat_EVO said:
I just read this http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/04/13/nvidia-support-older-tegra-2-tablets-all/ and it seems that nvidia will actually be continuing with support for the harmony boards. They are also saying that they want to help the open source ROM community, but in the same breath saying that they will not provide support, 3rd party drivers, or honeycomb source... So what else do they have to offer???
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the official statement from Nvidia is a bit more specific..
they will continue to support the vendors with harmony based boards, as long as they continue to release updates...nvidia will as example provide help on elocityA7 as long as the guys behind it will release updates, so if they don't, nvidia will not be able to help.
as parts of the nvidia developer kit, is protected by a NDA, the support Nvidia provides Opensource ROM developers can be limited, and only chip related..
elocity has different BT,wifi,touch and other tabs follow the same path, different hardware used for bt,wifi,touch panels... so its limited how much nvidia can provide of assistance without vendors releasing updated sources..
thats why their original "quick" statement was, to go with 3.0 alone, since most vendors now have to go 3.0, and the old ones will die quickly as they got some nasty extras like softbuttons being unused, or too low resolution for new native 3.0 apps. similar to the new sense3.0 requiring more video and resolution, and people complain because it cannot fit on old small video and resolution devices.. a pretty good explanation but no one seems to understand..